Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:He was radicalized online.





Yes, those aren't "leftist" messages.

They could be. The young people in the very online, niche meme far left can be like that. They’re not “leftist” to you if your version of “left” is stuck in the Vietnam era.


Which leftists kids you know are anti-gay? Pretty good litmus test these days. Which he didn't pass.
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Anonymous wrote:Checking out his mom FACEBOOK account seems like he was right wing


According to the press briefing - he hated Charlie Kirk. And the messages inscribed on the ballistics indicates he was echoing the narrative of leftists - fascist.


Fact


not fact.

suggesting that anyone who was taught to read is gay is not a leftist concept


The facts here are that the bullets had political inscriptions in them. Get it?
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Anonymous wrote:A white Mormon 22 year old from Utah is in custody. That sure screams liberal to me


Scream online radicalization


Children who grow up in very religious households are easier to radicalize- they are used to following far fetched ideas and believe things that are not plausible.


Agree
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Anonymous wrote:Why do we now need to know each murderer’s politics now? Can’t we agree that murderers are bad. (And often mentally ill?)

Is that the MAGA cope now?
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Anonymous wrote:From Patel: “To my friend, Charlie Kirk: Rest now, brother. We have the watch. And I’ll see you in Valhalla,” he said.

It's just SO corny.


Sounds like a dog whistle


It's from Game of Thrones when one of the members of The Watch died. Stupid "bro" crap.


There is no Valhalla in game of thrones. Illiterate Jester Patel was just stringing memes together. This is the same man who announce he had arrested “the subject”. He’s a one man army against language.


True. But it is the same warrioe ethos of the Norse. And GOT has many parallels to Norse mythology.
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Anonymous wrote:Why do we now need to know each murderer’s politics now? Can’t we agree that murderers are bad. (And often mentally ill?)


That's not what you said yesterday!
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Anonymous wrote:Why do we now need to know each murderer’s politics now? Can’t we agree that murderers are bad. (And often mentally ill?)


Get Trump on the phone and tell him
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Groyper/Nick Fuentes potential connection is interesting given Nick Fuentes recent railing against the administration over the Epstein files. It all does go back to the files doesn’t it.
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Anonymous wrote:lol the shooter wore a Trump costume for Halloween a few years ago


Right. As satire. This is clearly another case of Democratic domestic terrorism.


His whole family and community is Republican. It wasn't satire.


Oh. Ok.

He so admired Trump that he murdered one of his closest friends. Makes sense!

He's wing nut lefty and it will all come out.


Laura Loomer had extinguished Kirk on Twitter recently, so there is a farther right who would have followed her line of thought. So let's not jumo to conclusions, the shooter could just as easily been a Loomer/Fuentes acolyte.

And as Chris Hayes noted, as soon as it became clear the Trump "shooters" in Florida and PA had no real legible politics and certainly not from “the left” they completely vanished into anonymity. No one knows their names.
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Anonymous wrote:Why do we now need to know each murderer’s politics now? Can’t we agree that murderers are bad. (And often mentally ill?)


I mean, people have been here blaming trans people and violent liberals for days. But now it comes out this kid is a hard core right-wing nut job "oh don't think about politics"
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Anonymous wrote:MAGAs will slither away from this thread now.


Except they haven't. They'll bend reality any direction they have to in order to deflect from the rotten nature of their political culture.


The shooter is more complicated and espouses both left and right ideology.

But because he wrote on the casings antifa slogans , Antifa could be designated a terrorist organization. He will be used to target left winged organizations.


The right wing was going after the ghost-like "antifa" since they first heard of / invented it.
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Anonymous wrote:Checking out his mom FACEBOOK account seems like he was right wing


According to the press briefing - he hated Charlie Kirk. And the messages inscribed on the ballistics indicates he was echoing the narrative of leftists - fascist.


Fact


not fact.

suggesting that anyone who was taught to read is gay is not a leftist concept


The facts here are that the bullets had political inscriptions in them. Get it?


The inscriptions were not leftist, if you actually understand them.
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Anonymous wrote:lol the shooter wore a Trump costume for Halloween a few years ago


Right. As satire. This is clearly another case of Democratic domestic terrorism.


Tyler Robinson and his family don’t look like trans liberals to me. Tyler’s family is registered republicans, his father is a minister and former law enforcement, they have family members in the military.

Oh and Tyler’s parents introduced him to weapons at an early age. And He donated to trump in 2020.


It’s always the right wing lonely white boys with guns
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who wants to claim the alleged shooter is a centrist or lefty...

https://bsky.app/profile/iwriteok.bsky.social/post/3lynfxustfc2e

Nope.


So he was engaging with some really nasty right wing stuff on the internet as a teen and his parents apparently did no investigation into what he was copying. Great.


How are you getting that? The Governor of Utah at the press conference said the stuff they had found at the crime scene had anti-fascist writings on it. Those posts are all from 2020 - a lot can happen in 5 years. His family apparently also told investigators he became a lot more “political” recently.


You know that fascism is bad, right?

Can we not even agree on that?


I’m pretty liberal but come on. Charlie Kirk isn’t a “fascist.” He isn’t even a politician!


Fascism is a far-right, ultranationalist, and authoritarian political ideology characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized government, suppression of opposition, militarism, and the subordination of individual interests to the state.



The fact that Fasicsm and Communism, two staunchly opposed ideologies, have the same definition, should hint at how useless this terminology is. “Fascism” means “I don’t know accurate words for what I’m talking about”. See also; “socialism”.
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Anonymous wrote:He was radicalized online.





Yes, those aren't "leftist" messages.

They could be. The young people in the very online, niche meme far left can be like that. They’re not “leftist” to you if your version of “left” is stuck in the Vietnam era.


Which leftists kids you know are anti-gay? Pretty good litmus test these days. Which he didn't pass.


You need to look up “Tankies.” Also gamer culture, which cuts through traditional ideologies.
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