Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a difference between Hamas and Palestinians? If the majority is against Hamas, they can easily remove them from leadership positions. They can easily take them out; I have yet to hear an escaped Palestinian say how they hate Hamas.

So you believe collective punishment is warranted then. That"s a horrifying position.

serious question - is this your first time contemplating the horrors of war? did you grow up without access to history books, novels, movies, other people, or any other sources or information

Does "Never Again" only apply to Jewish people? I grew up thinking it meant that as a global community, we would never allow a Shoah to happen to any group. But it seems like shrugging off innocent civilians deaths in this conflict is really easy for you. I don't understand why.

DP.

I don’t understand why there’s so much more emphasis on civilian deaths in this conflict than in prior conflicts.

Assume roughly 15k civilian deaths in Gaza.

Compare to other/prior conflicts both as an absolute number and as a combatant/civilian ratio.

It’s interesting.

I guess the expectation is that because it's 2023, and because we know the U.S. armaments in this conflict are state-of-the-art, the precision of the war would be much more efficient than, say, the Civil War or WWI or WWII, etc. So it's difficult to understand how there's a fair comparison there.

A good guess, but the fact is that in 2022, the UN estimated that civilians constituted 90% of casualties in recent conflicts.

https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc14904.doc.htm

So there are really two possibilities here:

1. People’s expectations of the grim realities of conflict have suddenly and inexplicably become skewed.

2. People are reacting differently because this conflict involves Israel.

I’d say that #2 is the more plausible explanation.

Ok. So if you are ok with civilians dying why are the civilian deaths on 10:7 so horrible to you? From a Palestinian perspective they are all a part of a war that stretches back to the 1940s. Hostages included.

Personally, I think it’s horrific. And I thin kIsraeli’s actions are equally horrific. Bit of you are saying civilian deaths in a war are a-ok, then please explain why 10/7 is so very different. And please keep in mind that for every Israeli death since 1948, there has been at least 10x Palestinian deaths.

Israeli media doesn’t cover the suffering of the Palestinians, news coverage is all about them. Very rarely does Palestinian or West Bank suffering even make the news.
Perhaps news stories about them will not sell. Media outlets here are also biased, but at least we have exposure worldwide and can compare how the news is different in other media outlets

That aside, even the DC based Israel supporters seem blind to the suffering and keep regurgitating the same arguments

Do you live in Israel? Do you speak He few? are you up 24/7 watching Israeli news media? You know what’s happening in every channel, newspaper, radio station? Or, are you just projecting because a thought popped into your head and you thought it was vital to share it with the world?

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a difference between Hamas and Palestinians? If the majority is against Hamas, they can easily remove them from leadership positions. They can easily take them out; I have yet to hear an escaped Palestinian say how they hate Hamas.

So you believe collective punishment is warranted then. That"s a horrifying position.

serious question - is this your first time contemplating the horrors of war? did you grow up without access to history books, novels, movies, other people, or any other sources or information

Does "Never Again" only apply to Jewish people? I grew up thinking it meant that as a global community, we would never allow a Shoah to happen to any group. But it seems like shrugging off innocent civilians deaths in this conflict is really easy for you. I don't understand why.

DP.

I don’t understand why there’s so much more emphasis on civilian deaths in this conflict than in prior conflicts.

Assume roughly 15k civilian deaths in Gaza.

Compare to other/prior conflicts both as an absolute number and as a combatant/civilian ratio.

It’s interesting.

I guess the expectation is that because it's 2023, and because we know the U.S. armaments in this conflict are state-of-the-art, the precision of the war would be much more efficient than, say, the Civil War or WWI or WWII, etc. So it's difficult to understand how there's a fair comparison there.

A good guess, but the fact is that in 2022, the UN estimated that civilians constituted 90% of casualties in recent conflicts.

https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc14904.doc.htm

So there are really two possibilities here:

1. People’s expectations of the grim realities of conflict have suddenly and inexplicably become skewed.

2. People are reacting differently because this conflict involves Israel.

I’d say that #2 is the more plausible explanation.

Ok. So if you are ok with civilians dying why are the civilian deaths on 10:7 so horrible to you? From a Palestinian perspective they are all a part of a war that stretches back to the 1940s. Hostages included.

Personally, I think it’s horrific. And I thin kIsraeli’s actions are equally horrific. Bit of you are saying civilian deaths in a war are a-ok, then please explain why 10/7 is so very different. And please keep in mind that for every Israeli death since 1948, there has been at least 10x Palestinian deaths.

Israeli media doesn’t cover the suffering of the Palestinians, news coverage is all about them. Very rarely does Palestinian or West Bank suffering even make the news.
Perhaps news stories about them will not sell. Media outlets here are also biased, but at least we have exposure worldwide and can compare how the news is different in other media outlets

That aside, even the DC based Israel supporters seem blind to the suffering and keep regurgitating the same arguments

And how exactly does Palestinian media cover Israeli suffering?

Crickets…

FFS. You win dumbest argument of the day in DCUM.

[Anonymous]

8,000 to 9,000 Hamas terrorists eliminated per IDF, with many others wounded. Tunnels closing in if accurate.

[Anonymous]

This ^ and more. So much more. These people are imbeciles, lacking in the critical thinking that they brag about. They think using words like “unpack” and “deep dive” makes them smart.

They need their friends and social media to explain to them things anyone with a a working moral compass and basic common sense can understand.

No amount of oppression warrants the sheer brutality and bloodlust that these disgusting animals exhibited on October 7th.

They are, for all their religious extremism, godless, evil pigs. It’s one thing to kill, even to attack and instigate a war, but their behavior (and unbelievably , the support that they’ve received from dangerously ignorant and gullible sheep) is depraved .

I would much rather be a casualty of war in the wrong place at the wrong time by a quick gunshot or bomb , than to be humiliated, gang raped, tortured and burned alive, in front of my children and then have the whole shebang videotaped on a phone call to my mother.
And they can thank their dear leaders for turning them into the martyrs that they call themselves.

If you don’t see the depravity in this, all you apologists, and whatabout-ism-ists, then you are ducking morons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a difference between Hamas and Palestinians? If the majority is against Hamas, they can easily remove them from leadership positions. They can easily take them out; I have yet to hear an escaped Palestinian say how they hate Hamas.

So you believe collective punishment is warranted then. That"s a horrifying position.

serious question - is this your first time contemplating the horrors of war? did you grow up without access to history books, novels, movies, other people, or any other sources or information

Does "Never Again" only apply to Jewish people? I grew up thinking it meant that as a global community, we would never allow a Shoah to happen to any group. But it seems like shrugging off innocent civilians deaths in this conflict is really easy for you. I don't understand why.

DP.

I don’t understand why there’s so much more emphasis on civilian deaths in this conflict than in prior conflicts.

Assume roughly 15k civilian deaths in Gaza.

Compare to other/prior conflicts both as an absolute number and as a combatant/civilian ratio.

It’s interesting.

I guess the expectation is that because it's 2023, and because we know the U.S. armaments in this conflict are state-of-the-art, the precision of the war would be much more efficient than, say, the Civil War or WWI or WWII, etc. So it's difficult to understand how there's a fair comparison there.

A good guess, but the fact is that in 2022, the UN estimated that civilians constituted 90% of casualties in recent conflicts.

https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc14904.doc.htm

So there are really two possibilities here:

1. People’s expectations of the grim realities of conflict have suddenly and inexplicably become skewed.

2. People are reacting differently because this conflict involves Israel.

I’d say that #2 is the more plausible explanation.

Ok. So if you are ok with civilians dying why are the civilian deaths on 10:7 so horrible to you? From a Palestinian perspective they are all a part of a war that stretches back to the 1940s. Hostages included.

Personally, I think it’s horrific. And I thin kIsraeli’s actions are equally horrific. Bit of you are saying civilian deaths in a war are a-ok, then please explain why 10/7 is so very different. And please keep in mind that for every Israeli death since 1948, there has been at least 10x Palestinian deaths.

Israeli media doesn’t cover the suffering of the Palestinians, news coverage is all about them. Very rarely does Palestinian or West Bank suffering even make the news.
Perhaps news stories about them will not sell. Media outlets here are also biased, but at least we have exposure worldwide and can compare how the news is different in other media outlets

That aside, even the DC based Israel supporters seem blind to the suffering and keep regurgitating the same arguments

And how exactly does Palestinian media cover Israeli suffering?

Crickets…

FFS. You win dumbest argument of the day in DCUM.

Agreed

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a difference between Hamas and Palestinians? If the majority is against Hamas, they can easily remove them from leadership positions. They can easily take them out; I have yet to hear an escaped Palestinian say how they hate Hamas.

So you believe collective punishment is warranted then. That"s a horrifying position.

serious question - is this your first time contemplating the horrors of war? did you grow up without access to history books, novels, movies, other people, or any other sources or information

Does "Never Again" only apply to Jewish people? I grew up thinking it meant that as a global community, we would never allow a Shoah to happen to any group. But it seems like shrugging off innocent civilians deaths in this conflict is really easy for you. I don't understand why.

DP.

I don’t understand why there’s so much more emphasis on civilian deaths in this conflict than in prior conflicts.

Assume roughly 15k civilian deaths in Gaza.

Compare to other/prior conflicts both as an absolute number and as a combatant/civilian ratio.

It’s interesting.

I guess the expectation is that because it's 2023, and because we know the U.S. armaments in this conflict are state-of-the-art, the precision of the war would be much more efficient than, say, the Civil War or WWI or WWII, etc. So it's difficult to understand how there's a fair comparison there.

A good guess, but the fact is that in 2022, the UN estimated that civilians constituted 90% of casualties in recent conflicts.

https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc14904.doc.htm

So there are really two possibilities here:

1. People’s expectations of the grim realities of conflict have suddenly and inexplicably become skewed.

2. People are reacting differently because this conflict involves Israel.

I’d say that #2 is the more plausible explanation.

Ok. So if you are ok with civilians dying why are the civilian deaths on 10:7 so horrible to you? From a Palestinian perspective they are all a part of a war that stretches back to the 1940s. Hostages included.

Personally, I think it’s horrific. And I thin kIsraeli’s actions are equally horrific. Bit of you are saying civilian deaths in a war are a-ok, then please explain why 10/7 is so very different. And please keep in mind that for every Israeli death since 1948, there has been at least 10x Palestinian deaths.

If you feel this way, that the 10/7 deaths were part of a war, then post 10/7 deaths are part of a war, and one side is losing the war badly. Not our problem, since this is a war, right? We don't need to care who is winning. But if your agenda is really for us to take a side, why do we HAVE to take your side? We don't.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a difference between Hamas and Palestinians? If the majority is against Hamas, they can easily remove them from leadership positions. They can easily take them out; I have yet to hear an escaped Palestinian say how they hate Hamas.

So you believe collective punishment is warranted then. That"s a horrifying position.

serious question - is this your first time contemplating the horrors of war? did you grow up without access to history books, novels, movies, other people, or any other sources or information

Does "Never Again" only apply to Jewish people? I grew up thinking it meant that as a global community, we would never allow a Shoah to happen to any group. But it seems like shrugging off innocent civilians deaths in this conflict is really easy for you. I don't understand why.

DP.

I don’t understand why there’s so much more emphasis on civilian deaths in this conflict than in prior conflicts.

Assume roughly 15k civilian deaths in Gaza.

Compare to other/prior conflicts both as an absolute number and as a combatant/civilian ratio.

It’s interesting.

I guess the expectation is that because it's 2023, and because we know the U.S. armaments in this conflict are state-of-the-art, the precision of the war would be much more efficient than, say, the Civil War or WWI or WWII, etc. So it's difficult to understand how there's a fair comparison there.

A good guess, but the fact is that in 2022, the UN estimated that civilians constituted 90% of casualties in recent conflicts.

https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc14904.doc.htm

So there are really two possibilities here:

1. People’s expectations of the grim realities of conflict have suddenly and inexplicably become skewed.

2. People are reacting differently because this conflict involves Israel.

I’d say that #2 is the more plausible explanation.

Ok. So if you are ok with civilians dying why are the civilian deaths on 10:7 so horrible to you? From a Palestinian perspective they are all a part of a war that stretches back to the 1940s. Hostages included.

Personally, I think it’s horrific. And I thin kIsraeli’s actions are equally horrific. Bit of you are saying civilian deaths in a war are a-ok, then please explain why 10/7 is so very different. And please keep in mind that for every Israeli death since 1948, there has been at least 10x Palestinian deaths.

Israeli media doesn’t cover the suffering of the Palestinians, news coverage is all about them. Very rarely does Palestinian or West Bank suffering even make the news.
Perhaps news stories about them will not sell. Media outlets here are also biased, but at least we have exposure worldwide and can compare how the news is different in other media outlets

That aside, even the DC based Israel supporters seem blind to the suffering and keep regurgitating the same arguments

And how exactly does Palestinian media cover Israeli suffering?

Crickets…

FFS. You win dumbest argument of the day in DCUM.

Wow
Are you serious?
Do you think there are newspaper sales men in Gaza right now?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a difference between Hamas and Palestinians? If the majority is against Hamas, they can easily remove them from leadership positions. They can easily take them out; I have yet to hear an escaped Palestinian say how they hate Hamas.

So you believe collective punishment is warranted then. That"s a horrifying position.

serious question - is this your first time contemplating the horrors of war? did you grow up without access to history books, novels, movies, other people, or any other sources or information

Does "Never Again" only apply to Jewish people? I grew up thinking it meant that as a global community, we would never allow a Shoah to happen to any group. But it seems like shrugging off innocent civilians deaths in this conflict is really easy for you. I don't understand why.

DP.

I don’t understand why there’s so much more emphasis on civilian deaths in this conflict than in prior conflicts.

Assume roughly 15k civilian deaths in Gaza.

Compare to other/prior conflicts both as an absolute number and as a combatant/civilian ratio.

It’s interesting.

I guess the expectation is that because it's 2023, and because we know the U.S. armaments in this conflict are state-of-the-art, the precision of the war would be much more efficient than, say, the Civil War or WWI or WWII, etc. So it's difficult to understand how there's a fair comparison there.

A good guess, but the fact is that in 2022, the UN estimated that civilians constituted 90% of casualties in recent conflicts.

https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc14904.doc.htm

So there are really two possibilities here:

1. People’s expectations of the grim realities of conflict have suddenly and inexplicably become skewed.

2. People are reacting differently because this conflict involves Israel.

I’d say that #2 is the more plausible explanation.

Ok. So if you are ok with civilians dying why are the civilian deaths on 10:7 so horrible to you? From a Palestinian perspective they are all a part of a war that stretches back to the 1940s. Hostages included.

Personally, I think it’s horrific. And I thin kIsraeli’s actions are equally horrific. Bit of you are saying civilian deaths in a war are a-ok, then please explain why 10/7 is so very different. And please keep in mind that for every Israeli death since 1948, there has been at least 10x Palestinian deaths.

Israeli media doesn’t cover the suffering of the Palestinians, news coverage is all about them. Very rarely does Palestinian or West Bank suffering even make the news.
Perhaps news stories about them will not sell. Media outlets here are also biased, but at least we have exposure worldwide and can compare how the news is different in other media outlets

That aside, even the DC based Israel supporters seem blind to the suffering and keep regurgitating the same arguments

And how exactly does Palestinian media cover Israeli suffering?

Crickets…

FFS. You win dumbest argument of the day in DCUM.

Wow
Are you serious?
Do you think there are newspaper sales men in Gaza right now?

Wow. Do you think there’s been no Palestinian reporting since 10/7?

Are you serious?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a difference between Hamas and Palestinians? If the majority is against Hamas, they can easily remove them from leadership positions. They can easily take them out; I have yet to hear an escaped Palestinian say how they hate Hamas.

So you believe collective punishment is warranted then. That"s a horrifying position.

serious question - is this your first time contemplating the horrors of war? did you grow up without access to history books, novels, movies, other people, or any other sources or information

Does "Never Again" only apply to Jewish people? I grew up thinking it meant that as a global community, we would never allow a Shoah to happen to any group. But it seems like shrugging off innocent civilians deaths in this conflict is really easy for you. I don't understand why.

DP.

I don’t understand why there’s so much more emphasis on civilian deaths in this conflict than in prior conflicts.

Assume roughly 15k civilian deaths in Gaza.

Compare to other/prior conflicts both as an absolute number and as a combatant/civilian ratio.

It’s interesting.

I guess the expectation is that because it's 2023, and because we know the U.S. armaments in this conflict are state-of-the-art, the precision of the war would be much more efficient than, say, the Civil War or WWI or WWII, etc. So it's difficult to understand how there's a fair comparison there.

A good guess, but the fact is that in 2022, the UN estimated that civilians constituted 90% of casualties in recent conflicts.

https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc14904.doc.htm

So there are really two possibilities here:

1. People’s expectations of the grim realities of conflict have suddenly and inexplicably become skewed.

2. People are reacting differently because this conflict involves Israel.

I’d say that #2 is the more plausible explanation.

Ok. So if you are ok with civilians dying why are the civilian deaths on 10:7 so horrible to you? From a Palestinian perspective they are all a part of a war that stretches back to the 1940s. Hostages included.

Personally, I think it’s horrific. And I thin kIsraeli’s actions are equally horrific. Bit of you are saying civilian deaths in a war are a-ok, then please explain why 10/7 is so very different. And please keep in mind that for every Israeli death since 1948, there has been at least 10x Palestinian deaths.

Israeli media doesn’t cover the suffering of the Palestinians, news coverage is all about them. Very rarely does Palestinian or West Bank suffering even make the news.
Perhaps news stories about them will not sell. Media outlets here are also biased, but at least we have exposure worldwide and can compare how the news is different in other media outlets

That aside, even the DC based Israel supporters seem blind to the suffering and keep regurgitating the same arguments

And how exactly does Palestinian media cover Israeli suffering?

Crickets…

FFS. You win dumbest argument of the day in DCUM.

Wow
Are you serious?
Do you think there are newspaper sales men in Gaza right now?

Wow. Do you think there’s been no Palestinian reporting since 10/7?

Are you serious?

PS—lmk if you need links.

You might want to inform yourself before mouthing off on an issue about which you apparently know absolutely nothing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see the New York Times has finally belatedly acknowledged that Hamas used horrific sexual violence against Israeli women on 10/7, though I assume that does not matter to the Hamas supporters here who denied the rapes occurred because there weren’t rape kits or whatever, just extremely graphic and extremely obvious videos.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/28/world/middleeast/oct-7-attacks-hamas-israel-sexual-violence.html

I assume HRW and UN Women and all those supposed human rights organizations are still silent on the matter of Israeli women being sexually tortured by Hamas, but my standards for them are so low now that it’s not a surprise.

Israel had never sent UN Women the notification needed for them to open an investigation. Which makes the complaints just another bad faith accusation.

This is surely a comment motivated by the best, purest faith.

It is. The lack of response from UN Women, which has a whole program specifically focused on the horrors of sexual violence in war, was very disturbing. That is until it turned out that Israel never took the basic steps to trigger an investigation and their hands were tied. The propaganda war against the UN by Israel is bad for the world. That they have undertaken, at least part of, it in bad faith is a shame.

To be clear, I am talking about the Government of Israel and not the regular people that amplify these messages. While we wouldn't know about the bureaucratic procedures of obscure UN agencies the Israeli Mission to the UN would.

UN Women regularly issues tweets, statements, etc. condemning sexual violence against women worldwide without the targets having triggered or requested an investigation. You of course know this. But in this case, the organization has been silent, and we all know why. You are just defending overt antisemitism from a corrupt organization.

I’m not Jewish or remotely tied to Israel and am critical of many aspects of the Israeli response, but I also think that the silence from the UN Women is inexcusable. I’ve certainly lost any faith I used to have in the UN. Their silence in the face of the sexual torture faced by the 10/7 victims is appalling, full stop.

No. That's not true. I actually know the people there.

Perhaps you should convince them to join an organization that retains a sense of morality, then, since the one they are currently a part of has lost whatever minimal decency it used to have.

Lol, such bad faith. All Israel had to do was tell them and they would have started an investigation. It really is that simple.

I love how easily your misinformation is to disprove. As noted, UN Women has released two blandly weak statements about the sexual torture endured by Israeli women. The organization did that without any sort of investigation. So, obviously the organization can make statements without any sort of official investigation. It just chose not to strongly condemn the sexual violence against the Israeli women on 10/7, because the organization is transparently fine with sexual torture when the victims are Jewish women.

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Anonymous wrote:I see the New York Times has finally belatedly acknowledged that Hamas used horrific sexual violence against Israeli women on 10/7, though I assume that does not matter to the Hamas supporters here who denied the rapes occurred because there weren’t rape kits or whatever, just extremely graphic and extremely obvious videos.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/28/world/middleeast/oct-7-attacks-hamas-israel-sexual-violence.html

I assume HRW and UN Women and all those supposed human rights organizations are still silent on the matter of Israeli women being sexually tortured by Hamas, but my standards for them are so low now that it’s not a surprise.

Israel had never sent UN Women the notification needed for them to open an investigation. Which makes the complaints just another bad faith accusation.

This is surely a comment motivated by the best, purest faith.

It is. The lack of response from UN Women, which has a whole program specifically focused on the horrors of sexual violence in war, was very disturbing. That is until it turned out that Israel never took the basic steps to trigger an investigation and their hands were tied. The propaganda war against the UN by Israel is bad for the world. That they have undertaken, at least part of, it in bad faith is a shame.

To be clear, I am talking about the Government of Israel and not the regular people that amplify these messages. While we wouldn't know about the bureaucratic procedures of obscure UN agencies the Israeli Mission to the UN would.

UN Women regularly issues tweets, statements, etc. condemning sexual violence against women worldwide without the targets having triggered or requested an investigation. You of course know this. But in this case, the organization has been silent, and we all know why. You are just defending overt antisemitism from a corrupt organization.

I’m not Jewish or remotely tied to Israel and am critical of many aspects of the Israeli response, but I also think that the silence from the UN Women is inexcusable. I’ve certainly lost any faith I used to have in the UN. Their silence in the face of the sexual torture faced by the 10/7 victims is appalling, full stop.

No. That's not true. I actually know the people there.

Perhaps you should convince them to join an organization that retains a sense of morality, then, since the one they are currently a part of has lost whatever minimal decency it used to have.

Lol, such bad faith. All Israel had to do was tell them and they would have started an investigation. It really is that simple.

Nice that you think that women having nails hammered into their vaginas is worthy of an “lol”.

Says a great deal about you.

That PP is fine with that kind of violence, because the torture victims were Jewish women. That’s why she laughed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see the New York Times has finally belatedly acknowledged that Hamas used horrific sexual violence against Israeli women on 10/7, though I assume that does not matter to the Hamas supporters here who denied the rapes occurred because there weren’t rape kits or whatever, just extremely graphic and extremely obvious videos.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/28/world/middleeast/oct-7-attacks-hamas-israel-sexual-violence.html

I assume HRW and UN Women and all those supposed human rights organizations are still silent on the matter of Israeli women being sexually tortured by Hamas, but my standards for them are so low now that it’s not a surprise.

Israel had never sent UN Women the notification needed for them to open an investigation. Which makes the complaints just another bad faith accusation.

This is surely a comment motivated by the best, purest faith.

It is. The lack of response from UN Women, which has a whole program specifically focused on the horrors of sexual violence in war, was very disturbing. That is until it turned out that Israel never took the basic steps to trigger an investigation and their hands were tied. The propaganda war against the UN by Israel is bad for the world. That they have undertaken, at least part of, it in bad faith is a shame.

To be clear, I am talking about the Government of Israel and not the regular people that amplify these messages. While we wouldn't know about the bureaucratic procedures of obscure UN agencies the Israeli Mission to the UN would.

UN Women regularly issues tweets, statements, etc. condemning sexual violence against women worldwide without the targets having triggered or requested an investigation. You of course know this. But in this case, the organization has been silent, and we all know why. You are just defending overt antisemitism from a corrupt organization.

I’m not Jewish or remotely tied to Israel and am critical of many aspects of the Israeli response, but I also think that the silence from the UN Women is inexcusable. I’ve certainly lost any faith I used to have in the UN. Their silence in the face of the sexual torture faced by the 10/7 victims is appalling, full stop.

No. That's not true. I actually know the people there.

Perhaps you should convince them to join an organization that retains a sense of morality, then, since the one they are currently a part of has lost whatever minimal decency it used to have.

Lol, such bad faith. All Israel had to do was tell them and they would have started an investigation. It really is that simple.

Lol and they did on October 30th, you effing jackass https://www.ncjw.org/news/ncjw-israel-womens-network-and-140-womens-organizations-call-for-urgent-action-response-to-un-womens-statement-of-october-13/

As if UN Women would pay any attention to this.

UN Women does not care that Jewish women had nails driven into their vaginas. The victims were Jewish so the organization probably celebrated the torture more than anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This ^ and more. So much more. These people are imbeciles, lacking in the critical thinking that they brag about. They think using words like “unpack” and “deep dive” makes them smart.

They need their friends and social media to explain to them things anyone with a a working moral compass and basic common sense can understand.

No amount of oppression warrants the sheer brutality and bloodlust that these disgusting animals exhibited on October 7th.

They are, for all their religious extremism, godless, evil pigs. It’s one thing to kill, even to attack and instigate a war, but their behavior (and unbelievably , the support that they’ve received from dangerously ignorant and gullible sheep) is depraved .

I would much rather be a casualty of war in the wrong place at the wrong time by a quick gunshot or bomb , than to be humiliated, gang raped, tortured and burned alive, in front of my children and then have the whole shebang videotaped on a phone call to my mother.
And they can thank their dear leaders for turning them into the martyrs that they call themselves.

If you don’t see the depravity in this, all you apologists, and whatabout-ism-ists, then you are ducking morons.

You do realize this is happening every day in Gaza? Men and boys are routinely rounded up, stripped naked, humiliated, beaten, and subjected to torture to make them "confess" to being in Hamas. People are regularly burned alive in Gaza, and there are also many surviving burn victims. Unlike in Israel, the hospitals are too often ill-equipped to treat them. As you probably know, those burned on 10/7, both Palestinian fighters and Israelis, were almost certainly burned by the IDF. People in Gaza are having surgery without anesthetics. And if you really want to contemplate horrible ways to die, imagine being one of the thousands of people buried under the rubble and slowly dying of thirst or from your untreated injuries. Another unpleasant but common death in Gaza is to be shot by an IDF sniper and to then lie in agony for hours while the IDF shoots anyone who tries to approach and help you. As one example of many, one of the woman shot inside the Holy Family parish was shot as she tried to carry the other to safety. They were a mother and daughter. Here's a video of a young Israeli soldier who brags that he's looking for babies to kill: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231228-israeli-soldier-says-he-possibly-killed-a-12-year-old-girl/

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Anonymous wrote:I see the New York Times has finally belatedly acknowledged that Hamas used horrific sexual violence against Israeli women on 10/7, though I assume that does not matter to the Hamas supporters here who denied the rapes occurred because there weren’t rape kits or whatever, just extremely graphic and extremely obvious videos.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/28/world/middleeast/oct-7-attacks-hamas-israel-sexual-violence.html

I assume HRW and UN Women and all those supposed human rights organizations are still silent on the matter of Israeli women being sexually tortured by Hamas, but my standards for them are so low now that it’s not a surprise.

Israel had never sent UN Women the notification needed for them to open an investigation. Which makes the complaints just another bad faith accusation.

This is surely a comment motivated by the best, purest faith.

It is. The lack of response from UN Women, which has a whole program specifically focused on the horrors of sexual violence in war, was very disturbing. That is until it turned out that Israel never took the basic steps to trigger an investigation and their hands were tied. The propaganda war against the UN by Israel is bad for the world. That they have undertaken, at least part of, it in bad faith is a shame.

To be clear, I am talking about the Government of Israel and not the regular people that amplify these messages. While we wouldn't know about the bureaucratic procedures of obscure UN agencies the Israeli Mission to the UN would.

UN Women regularly issues tweets, statements, etc. condemning sexual violence against women worldwide without the targets having triggered or requested an investigation. You of course know this. But in this case, the organization has been silent, and we all know why. You are just defending overt antisemitism from a corrupt organization.

I’m not Jewish or remotely tied to Israel and am critical of many aspects of the Israeli response, but I also think that the silence from the UN Women is inexcusable. I’ve certainly lost any faith I used to have in the UN. Their silence in the face of the sexual torture faced by the 10/7 victims is appalling, full stop.

No. That's not true. I actually know the people there.

Perhaps you should convince them to join an organization that retains a sense of morality, then, since the one they are currently a part of has lost whatever minimal decency it used to have.

Lol, such bad faith. All Israel had to do was tell them and they would have started an investigation. It really is that simple.

Lol and they did on October 30th, you effing jackass https://www.ncjw.org/news/ncjw-israel-womens-network-and-140-womens-organizations-call-for-urgent-action-response-to-un-womens-statement-of-october-13/

As if UN Women would pay any attention to this.

UN Women does not care that Jewish women had nails driven into their vaginas. The victims were Jewish so the organization probably celebrated the torture more than anything.

Well, the head of the UNWomen is Jordanian.

As reported by The New York Times, at the United Nations, Gilad Erdan, Israel’s Ambassador to the United Nations, said he sent two letters about the use of rape by Hamas militants, appended with photographs of victims’ bodies, to Bahous. He said: "I got no response whatsoever. Not even, ‘We received your letter.

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Anonymous wrote:This ^ and more. So much more. These people are imbeciles, lacking in the critical thinking that they brag about. They think using words like “unpack” and “deep dive” makes them smart.

They need their friends and social media to explain to them things anyone with a a working moral compass and basic common sense can understand.

No amount of oppression warrants the sheer brutality and bloodlust that these disgusting animals exhibited on October 7th.

They are, for all their religious extremism, godless, evil pigs. It’s one thing to kill, even to attack and instigate a war, but their behavior (and unbelievably , the support that they’ve received from dangerously ignorant and gullible sheep) is depraved .

I would much rather be a casualty of war in the wrong place at the wrong time by a quick gunshot or bomb , than to be humiliated, gang raped, tortured and burned alive, in front of my children and then have the whole shebang videotaped on a phone call to my mother.
And they can thank their dear leaders for turning them into the martyrs that they call themselves.

If you don’t see the depravity in this, all you apologists, and whatabout-ism-ists, then you are ducking morons.

You do realize this is happening every day in Gaza? Men and boys are routinely rounded up, stripped naked, humiliated, beaten, and subjected to torture to make them "confess" to being in Hamas. People are regularly burned alive in Gaza, and there are also many surviving burn victims. Unlike in Israel, the hospitals are too often ill-equipped to treat them. As you probably know, those burned on 10/7, both Palestinian fighters and Israelis, were almost certainly burned by the IDF. People in Gaza are having surgery without anesthetics. And if you really want to contemplate horrible ways to die, imagine being one of the thousands of people buried under the rubble and slowly dying of thirst or from your untreated injuries. Another unpleasant but common death in Gaza is to be shot by an IDF sniper and to then lie in agony for hours while the IDF shoots anyone who tries to approach and help you. As one example of many, one of the woman shot inside the Holy Family parish was shot as she tried to carry the other to safety. They were a mother and daughter. Here's a video of a young Israeli soldier who brags that he's looking for babies to kill: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231228-israeli-soldier-says-he-possibly-killed-a-12-year-old-girl/

Love how you called terrorists “Palestinian fighters”. True colors!