Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question, how will the bike lanes prevent any of this? Connecticut Ave is a major commuter and tourist route into the city. It is always inherently going to be dangerous because you have people in a hurry combined with people who don’t know where they are going. If you add in 3000+ bicycles, you’re only going to end up with greater carnage.

I'm really, really, really tired of hearing that our streets are inherently unsafe and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

Add protected bike lanes, reduce the through car traffic to two lanes, is a start.

I hope you will agree.

If you propose dedicated bus lanes with every 10 min Circulator bus service, I would agree. Narrows the roadway for cars and moves more people than bike lanes ever will.

They are not interested in what’s the best for the transportation needs and safety of everyone. They are only interested in themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any updates on what caused this crash? Was a stolen car involved?

It was stolen car that was speeding had been reported stolen days earlier.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any updates on what caused this crash? Was a stolen car involved?

It was stolen car that was speeding had been reported stolen days earlier.

Source?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

Road diet
Bollards for crosswalks
Additional speed cameras

What we don't suggest is doing absolutely nothing, which is what opponents to Conn Ave bike lanes and other traffic calming measures desire.

Your reaction is emotional, not logical. I hate these accidents too. But the bike lanes and “road diet” on the major north-south evacuation route will cost more lives than it saves. It will increase police/fire response time and push more cars into the neighborhoods. The unintended consequences are both unknown and far reaching. What you suggest for this road is the panicked equivalent of closing the schools for 1.5 years. It will hurt working people the most while the rich are unaffected working from home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

Road diet
Bollards for crosswalks
Additional speed cameras

What we don't suggest is doing absolutely nothing, which is what opponents to Conn Ave bike lanes and other traffic calming measures desire.

Your reaction is emotional, not logical. I hate these accidents too. But the bike lanes and “road diet” on the major north-south evacuation route will cost more lives than it saves. It will increase police/fire response time and push more cars into the neighborhoods. The unintended consequences are both unknown and far reaching. What you suggest for this road is the panicked equivalent of closing the schools for 1.5 years. It will hurt working people the most while the rich are unaffected working from home.

PP is suggesting countermeasures that are in the Federal Highway Administration design guidelines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

Road diet
Bollards for crosswalks
Additional speed cameras

What we don't suggest is doing absolutely nothing, which is what opponents to Conn Ave bike lanes and other traffic calming measures desire.

Your reaction is emotional, not logical. I hate these accidents too. But the bike lanes and “road diet” on the major north-south evacuation route will cost more lives than it saves. It will increase police/fire response time and push more cars into the neighborhoods. The unintended consequences are both unknown and far reaching. What you suggest for this road is the panicked equivalent of closing the schools for 1.5 years. It will hurt working people the most while the rich are unaffected working from home.

PP is suggesting countermeasures that are in the Federal Highway Administration design guidelines.

I’m pretty the first countermeasure in the playbook is actual traffic enforcement. Which progressives have blown straight past. Just like they don’t want to enforce any laws. So of course they go for the most expensive and heavy handed solution first. Typical.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any updates on what caused this crash? Was a stolen car involved?

It was stolen car that was speeding had been reported stolen days earlier.

Source?

Also curious about a source. I've been trying to find more information about what happened and none of the news reports I've seen have any details. Are there any official accounts of what happened beyond what DC Police and EMS shared yesterday in the immediate aftermath?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

Road diet
Bollards for crosswalks
Additional speed cameras

What we don't suggest is doing absolutely nothing, which is what opponents to Conn Ave bike lanes and other traffic calming measures desire.

Your reaction is emotional, not logical. I hate these accidents too. But the bike lanes and “road diet” on the major north-south evacuation route will cost more lives than it saves. It will increase police/fire response time and push more cars into the neighborhoods. The unintended consequences are both unknown and far reaching. What you suggest for this road is the panicked equivalent of closing the schools for 1.5 years. It will hurt working people the most while the rich are unaffected working from home.

PP is suggesting countermeasures that are in the Federal Highway Administration design guidelines.

I’m pretty the first countermeasure in the playbook is actual traffic enforcement. Which progressives have blown straight past. Just like they don’t want to enforce any laws. So of course they go for the most expensive and heavy handed solution first. Typical.

That's because you don't know what you're talking about.

https://highways.dot.gov/safety/proven-safety-countermeasures

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

Road diet
Bollards for crosswalks
Additional speed cameras

What we don't suggest is doing absolutely nothing, which is what opponents to Conn Ave bike lanes and other traffic calming measures desire.

Your reaction is emotional, not logical. I hate these accidents too. But the bike lanes and “road diet” on the major north-south evacuation route will cost more lives than it saves. It will increase police/fire response time and push more cars into the neighborhoods. The unintended consequences are both unknown and far reaching. What you suggest for this road is the panicked equivalent of closing the schools for 1.5 years. It will hurt working people the most while the rich are unaffected working from home.

PP is suggesting countermeasures that are in the Federal Highway Administration design guidelines.

If there is no enforcement, it doesn’t matter how many rainbow unicorns you line up on Connecticut Ave. I’ve lived here for 30 years and can count in 1 hand how many times I’ve seen actual traffic enforcement.

I’m pretty the first countermeasure in the playbook is actual traffic enforcement. Which progressives have blown straight past. Just like they don’t want to enforce any laws. So of course they go for the most expensive and heavy handed solution first. Typical.

That's because you don't know what you're talking about.

https://highways.dot.gov/safety/proven-safety-countermeasures

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

Road diet
Bollards for crosswalks
Additional speed cameras

What we don't suggest is doing absolutely nothing, which is what opponents to Conn Ave bike lanes and other traffic calming measures desire.

Your reaction is emotional, not logical. I hate these accidents too. But the bike lanes and “road diet” on the major north-south evacuation route will cost more lives than it saves. It will increase police/fire response time and push more cars into the neighborhoods. The unintended consequences are both unknown and far reaching. What you suggest for this road is the panicked equivalent of closing the schools for 1.5 years. It will hurt working people the most while the rich are unaffected working from home.

And yet, these updates to public space happen in other places with none of the impacts you suggest. Fear tactics won't work. The current road is designed unsafe for everyone who uses it. Time for a change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

Road diet
Bollards for crosswalks
Additional speed cameras

What we don't suggest is doing absolutely nothing, which is what opponents to Conn Ave bike lanes and other traffic calming measures desire.

Your reaction is emotional, not logical. I hate these accidents too. But the bike lanes and “road diet” on the major north-south evacuation route will cost more lives than it saves. It will increase police/fire response time and push more cars into the neighborhoods. The unintended consequences are both unknown and far reaching. What you suggest for this road is the panicked equivalent of closing the schools for 1.5 years. It will hurt working people the most while the rich are unaffected working from home.

PP is suggesting countermeasures that are in the Federal Highway Administration design guidelines.

I’m pretty the first countermeasure in the playbook is actual traffic enforcement. Which progressives have blown straight past. Just like they don’t want to enforce any laws. So of course they go for the most expensive and heavy handed solution first. Typical.

LOL, enforcement. You want to live in a police state, when some simple changes will make the street safer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any updates on what caused this crash? Was a stolen car involved?

It was stolen car that was speeding had been reported stolen days earlier.

Source?

Also curious about a source. I've been trying to find more information about what happened and none of the news reports I've seen have any details. Are there any official accounts of what happened beyond what DC Police and EMS shared yesterday in the immediate aftermath?

sadly, I think that because nobody died, we won't get any more information about this than we already have. three people having critical (likely life-altering) injuries just doesn't register.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

Road diet
Bollards for crosswalks
Additional speed cameras

What we don't suggest is doing absolutely nothing, which is what opponents to Conn Ave bike lanes and other traffic calming measures desire.

Your reaction is emotional, not logical. I hate these accidents too. But the bike lanes and “road diet” on the major north-south evacuation route will cost more lives than it saves. It will increase police/fire response time and push more cars into the neighborhoods. The unintended consequences are both unknown and far reaching. What you suggest for this road is the panicked equivalent of closing the schools for 1.5 years. It will hurt working people the most while the rich are unaffected working from home.

The increased fire/police response time is an absolute red herring that bike lane haters are pushing as one of their ever-changing menu of reasons to oppose bikelanes. Illegal double parking and a refusal to pull to the side for emergency vehicles is what actually lowers response rates. I watched emergency vehicles try to get down 18th Street NW recently downtown and drivers were acting utterly clueless, trying to inch forward to make their turn instead of yeilding to the fire trucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any updates on what caused this crash? Was a stolen car involved?

It was stolen car that was speeding had been reported stolen days earlier.

Source?

Also curious about a source. I've been trying to find more information about what happened and none of the news reports I've seen have any details. Are there any official accounts of what happened beyond what DC Police and EMS shared yesterday in the immediate aftermath?

sadly, I think that because nobody died, we won't get any more information about this than we already have. three people having critical (likely life-altering) injuries just doesn't register.

We never even got any more information about the crash at the Parthenon restaurant on Connecticut last year, where 2 people did die.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any updates on what caused this crash? Was a stolen car involved?

It was stolen car that was speeding had been reported stolen days earlier.

Source?

Also curious about a source. I've been trying to find more information about what happened and none of the news reports I've seen have any details. Are there any official accounts of what happened beyond what DC Police and EMS shared yesterday in the immediate aftermath?

sadly, I think that because nobody died, we won't get any more information about this than we already have. three people having critical (likely life-altering) injuries just doesn't register.

We never even got any more information about the crash at the Parthenon restaurant on Connecticut last year, where 2 people did die.

Elderly driver lost control of vehicle.