Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:4-car crash in the 3000 block of Connecticut Ave NW, 7 people injured, 3 with life-threatening injuries.

Jeeezzz. That is truly horrible. What happened?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question, how will the bike lanes prevent any of this? Connecticut Ave is a major commuter and tourist route into the city. It is always inherently going to be dangerous because you have people in a hurry combined with people who don’t know where they are going. If you add in 3000+ bicycles, you’re only going to end up with greater carnage.

I'm really, really, really tired of hearing that our streets are inherently unsafe and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:let's maintain the status quo

That crash looks like it happened mid-block right in front of the zoo - not even at an intersection. What could possibly have caused this other than excessive speed? Was someone driving the wrong way?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question, how will the bike lanes prevent any of this? Connecticut Ave is a major commuter and tourist route into the city. It is always inherently going to be dangerous because you have people in a hurry combined with people who don’t know where they are going. If you add in 3000+ bicycles, you’re only going to end up with greater carnage.

I'm really, really, really tired of hearing that our streets are inherently unsafe and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

Physical traffic calming, such as narrowing the road by installing protected bike lanes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honest question, how will the bike lanes prevent any of this? Connecticut Ave is a major commuter and tourist route into the city. It is always inherently going to be dangerous because you have people in a hurry combined with people who don’t know where they are going. If you add in 3000+ bicycles, you’re only going to end up with greater carnage.

I'm really, really, really tired of hearing that our streets are inherently unsafe and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

There's a whole field of expertise out there. Start reading.
https://highways.dot.gov/safety/zero-deaths

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question, how will the bike lanes prevent any of this? Connecticut Ave is a major commuter and tourist route into the city. It is always inherently going to be dangerous because you have people in a hurry combined with people who don’t know where they are going. If you add in 3000+ bicycles, you’re only going to end up with greater carnage.

I'm really, really, really tired of hearing that our streets are inherently unsafe and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

Add protected bike lanes, reduce the through car traffic to two lanes, is a start.

I hope you will agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

Road diet
Bollards for crosswalks
Additional speed cameras

What we don't suggest is doing absolutely nothing, which is what opponents to Conn Ave bike lanes and other traffic calming measures desire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honest question, how will the bike lanes prevent any of this? Connecticut Ave is a major commuter and tourist route into the city. It is always inherently going to be dangerous because you have people in a hurry combined with people who don’t know where they are going. If you add in 3000+ bicycles, you’re only going to end up with greater carnage.

They will be lucky to get 300 bicycles. But more carnage as a result is a certainty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question, how will the bike lanes prevent any of this? Connecticut Ave is a major commuter and tourist route into the city. It is always inherently going to be dangerous because you have people in a hurry combined with people who don’t know where they are going. If you add in 3000+ bicycles, you’re only going to end up with greater carnage.

They will be lucky to get 300 bicycles. But more carnage as a result is a certainty.

And by "certainty", you mean "I don't know what I'm talking about, but I don't let that stop me."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question, how will the bike lanes prevent any of this? Connecticut Ave is a major commuter and tourist route into the city. It is always inherently going to be dangerous because you have people in a hurry combined with people who don’t know where they are going. If you add in 3000+ bicycles, you’re only going to end up with greater carnage.

I'm really, really, really tired of hearing that our streets are inherently unsafe and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

There are something like two cameras on Connecticut from Calvert to Chevy Chase Circle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honest question, how will the bike lanes prevent any of this? Connecticut Ave is a major commuter and tourist route into the city. It is always inherently going to be dangerous because you have people in a hurry combined with people who don’t know where they are going. If you add in 3000+ bicycles, you’re only going to end up with greater carnage.

Going from three lanes to two, with turn lanes, provides less opportunity to speed and gives a different view and feel to drivers, so it isn't presenting as a highway but rather a road.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question, how will the bike lanes prevent any of this? Connecticut Ave is a major commuter and tourist route into the city. It is always inherently going to be dangerous because you have people in a hurry combined with people who don’t know where they are going. If you add in 3000+ bicycles, you’re only going to end up with greater carnage.

I'm really, really, really tired of hearing that our streets are inherently unsafe and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

Add protected bike lanes, reduce the through car traffic to two lanes, is a start.

I hope you will agree.

If you propose dedicated bus lanes with every 10 min Circulator bus service, I would agree. Narrows the roadway for cars and moves more people than bike lanes ever will.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honest question, how will the bike lanes prevent any of this? Connecticut Ave is a major commuter and tourist route into the city. It is always inherently going to be dangerous because you have people in a hurry combined with people who don’t know where they are going. If you add in 3000+ bicycles, you’re only going to end up with greater carnage.

I'm really, really, really tired of hearing that our streets are inherently unsafe and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

Add protected bike lanes, reduce the through car traffic to two lanes, is a start.

I hope you will agree.

If you propose dedicated bus lanes with every 10 min Circulator bus service, I would agree. Narrows the roadway for cars and moves more people than bike lanes ever will.

I'm not the PP you're responding to, but I think that would be great. One lane for bikes, one lane for buses, one lane for cars, each way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honest question, how will the bike lanes prevent any of this? Connecticut Ave is a major commuter and tourist route into the city. It is always inherently going to be dangerous because you have people in a hurry combined with people who don’t know where they are going. If you add in 3000+ bicycles, you’re only going to end up with greater carnage.

I'm really, really, really tired of hearing that our streets are inherently unsafe and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

The speed limit is already 25 MPH and there are cameras. What else do you suggest?

Add protected bike lanes, reduce the through car traffic to two lanes, is a start.

I hope you will agree.

If you propose dedicated bus lanes with every 10 min Circulator bus service, I would agree. Narrows the roadway for cars and moves more people than bike lanes ever will.

I had talked to both Cheh and Frumin about it. I would fully support it, but I think the people opposed to bike lanes would go batsh!t on the access for single occupancy cars.

[Anonymous]

Any updates on what caused this crash? Was a stolen car involved?