New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

[Anonymous]

Rangers are good.

This is huge for GA in Socal.

[Anonymous]

How about we focus on the future. If your daughter is 2012 or younger you may want to start looking for a GA club.



This is where we are at. My daughter is Q4 2013. We are switching clubs this year. We want to go to a GA club- and look into DPL and Aspire. She is not GA level, maybe when she drops an age group. I'm hesitant to commit to a club with a GA platform when they have announced SY vs BY. So we are in a wait and see!

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Anonymous wrote:Rangers FC to GA

girls #114
boys #144
club #105

although the ranking site is relatively good, there is no way Rangers RC girls are ranked #114. that is just BS

[Anonymous]

There is room and enough $$$ for two leagues to co-exist. They just need to differentiate with different offerings and customers will choose the best option for them. Plenty of areas for differentiation whether it be around college recruiting, development philosophy, cost, geography and travel requirements, associations with professional leagues MLS, NWSL, etc. Competition is good. There are usually at least two main competitors in any market. A single dominant league is good for no one.

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Anonymous wrote:Rangers FC to GA

girls #114
boys #144
club #105

although the ranking site is relatively good, there is no way Rangers RC girls are ranked #114. that is just BS

ECNL clubs (Slammers, Blues, Pats, etc) have been keeping clubs like Rangers + Fram out of ECNL for years.

Uh oh looks like the tables have turned.

[Anonymous]

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How about we focus on the future. If your daughter is 2012 or younger you may want to start looking for a GA club.

This is where we are at. My daughter is Q4 2013. We are switching clubs this year. We want to go to a GA club- and look into DPL and Aspire. She is not GA level, maybe when she drops an age group. I'm hesitant to commit to a club with a GA platform when they have announced SY vs BY. So we are in a wait and see!

GA announcement on age change will come in May.

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Anonymous wrote:Rangers FC to GA

girls #114
boys #144
club #105

although the ranking site is relatively good, there is no way Rangers RC girls are ranked #114. that is just BS

ECNL clubs (Slammers, Blues, Pats, etc) have been keeping clubs like Rangers + Fram out of ECNL for years.

Uh oh looks like the tables have turned.

so. your comment doesn't make sense. if they are so good why haven't they gone to GA before? why hasn't GA promoted them? that's what DPl is supposed to be a league that if you perform you are promoted to GA.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this right? Now there are 7 GA teams in NoVa?
Mclean
Loudoun
NVA
Revolution
SYC
Alexandria
St James

7 GA and the 3 ECNL teams makes 10 national platform teams? 11 if Bethesda is included. Does any other metro have anything close to this many teams?

SoCal, Atlanta, NYC and some others depending on if you just asking about an actual metro area of an specific area size.

You also forgot Skyline

Plus Armour Celtic and MDU if we are talking about the MSI. And coppermine. Too many.

Last year all the ECNL hats were laughing because they thought no club would switch from ECNL to GA.

This year apparently too many ECNL clubs have switched to GA.

The nonsense never stops with the hats.

I am the PP-- the point I was making is we do not have the depth of talent in this region to support 13-15 teams. Not a single one of those teams will be able to compete at the highest level, whether that be ENCL or GA. I did not speak to either specifically

Don't confused talent with training. Clubs, especially ECNL, have become complacent knowing they'd never be removed and that they effectively blocked certain competing clubs from entering. Ever think why and area with a larger population would have less clubs in ECNL or GA then some other areas? They don't breed them different in Texas, Georgia, or Cal they just train them better.

This is the part that's being missed. With more options, clubs are going to have to really differentiate themselves. Existing simply because you're in the league won't cut it anymore. They actually will have to train and develop players. I do think for this to work, GA is going to have to actually relegate clubs based on a performance during a set window. In my best dreams, it would be team by team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is room and enough $$$ for two leagues to co-exist. They just need to differentiate with different offerings and customers will choose the best option for them. Plenty of areas for differentiation whether it be around college recruiting, development philosophy, cost, geography and travel requirements, associations with professional leagues MLS, NWSL, etc. Competition is good. There are usually at least two main competitors in any market. A single dominant league is good for no one.

How do these youth leagues work in countries like Germany or Spain?
I wonder if they have multiple competing "top leagues."

I wonder..

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Anonymous wrote:Rangers FC to GA

girls #114
boys #144
club #105

although the ranking site is relatively good, there is no way Rangers RC girls are ranked #114. that is just BS

ECNL clubs (Slammers, Blues, Pats, etc) have been keeping clubs like Rangers + Fram out of ECNL for years.

Uh oh looks like the tables have turned.

so. your comment doesn't make sense. if they are so good why haven't they gone to GA before? why hasn't GA promoted them? that's what DPl is supposed to be a league that if you perform you are promoted to GA.

GA added FRAM last year or maybe the year before. Now they've added Rangers. What people don't understand is in Socal there's probably 100 clubs that aren't GA or ECNL.

In both FRAMs and Ramgers cases local ECNL clubs didn't want them in because they were developing the players ECNL clubs would recruit at u13.

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Anonymous wrote:Oregon Surf parents are worried that they will be moved to GA, as their boys are MLSN.

ECNL is squeezing clubs to make a decision.
Now we know why SC Surf made the move.

You mean GA+MLSN are doing the same thing to clubs that ECNL used to do? Forcing clubs to play in boys ECNL if they wanted girls ECNL?

ECNL started the potentially illegal practice of tieing different products. GA+MLSN are just playing the game ECNL introduced. Before MLSN+GA announced a partnership earlier this year they were completely separate and didn't care if clubs had one or the other.

If ECNL does this, Bethesda, FC Delco, and PDA will need to make the move. I'm not sure ECNL has the guts to do this.

ECNL has definitely done this.

ECNL even took things a step further and taken girls ECNL away from clubs that don't do boys ECNL.

ECNL has also taken girls ECNL away if clubs play boys ECNL as their 2nd boys team behind MLSN.

100% correct. I wish the ECNL hats knew more about ECNLs history.

ECNL girls was in place before the girls DA and survived. It’s now the clear cut #1 girls platform. Sounds good to me and my ECNL hat, hoodie and socks.

[Anonymous]

Since there seems to be lack of info coming out for MD/DE/PA/NJ teams, do you think there is nothing or something super planned?

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Anonymous wrote:Rangers FC to GA

girls #114
boys #144
club #105

although the ranking site is relatively good, there is no way Rangers RC girls are ranked #114. that is just BS

ECNL clubs (Slammers, Blues, Pats, etc) have been keeping clubs like Rangers + Fram out of ECNL for years.

Uh oh looks like the tables have turned.

so. your comment doesn't make sense. if they are so good why haven't they gone to GA before? why hasn't GA promoted them? that's what DPl is supposed to be a league that if you perform you are promoted to GA.

GA added FRAM last year or maybe the year before. Now they've added Rangers. What people don't understand is in Socal there's probably 100 clubs that aren't GA or ECNL.

In both FRAMs and Ramgers cases local ECNL clubs didn't want them in because they were developing the players ECNL clubs would recruit at u13.

FRAM came to GA for the 22/23 season

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Anonymous wrote:There is room and enough $$$ for two leagues to co-exist. They just need to differentiate with different offerings and customers will choose the best option for them. Plenty of areas for differentiation whether it be around college recruiting, development philosophy, cost, geography and travel requirements, associations with professional leagues MLS, NWSL, etc. Competition is good. There are usually at least two main competitors in any market. A single dominant league is good for no one.

How do these youth leagues work in countries like Germany or Spain?
I wonder if they have multiple competing "top leagues."

I wonder..

most countries don't have leagues or the "club system" like us. They have academies at each age level built up and attached to their local pro teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Oregon Surf parents are worried that they will be moved to GA, as their boys are MLSN.

ECNL is squeezing clubs to make a decision.
Now we know why SC Surf made the move.

You mean GA+MLSN are doing the same thing to clubs that ECNL used to do? Forcing clubs to play in boys ECNL if they wanted girls ECNL?

ECNL started the potentially illegal practice of tieing different products. GA+MLSN are just playing the game ECNL introduced. Before MLSN+GA announced a partnership earlier this year they were completely separate and didn't care if clubs had one or the other.

If ECNL does this, Bethesda, FC Delco, and PDA will need to make the move. I'm not sure ECNL has the guts to do this.

ECNL has definitely done this.

ECNL even took things a step further and taken girls ECNL away from clubs that don't do boys ECNL.

ECNL has also taken girls ECNL away if clubs play boys ECNL as their 2nd boys team behind MLSN.

100% correct. I wish the ECNL hats knew more about ECNLs history.

Can you inform us of ECNL’s history? I know they survived the girls DA.

How about we focus on the future. If your daughter is 2012 or younger you may want to start looking for a GA club.

This 100%. ECNL is like the titanic, and they just hit an iceberg with the MLSN + GA partnership.. the first few lifeboats just entered the water, with more to come.

When clubs started switching to DA in groups in 2017 is when DA really started to pickup steam. If you see this happening with GA ECNL is done.

We can expect a few more strong one off GA adds this cycle, next year you will have groups of teams switching to GA from what I'm hearing.

sure. you aren't hearing nothing from clubs cause they all just happen to let you know

Sounds like he heard something

Bada BOOM!!!!!

Rangers FC on cue. Another club add in the 100 range.

Not an add, just promoted from DPL

They had ECNLR for the boys.
Another club sacrificing girls for MLSN

Ranger boys are, unfortunately, not MLSN level. RL or MLSN2. My kid's RL team beat them 5:0.