Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Ukraine has committed its forces in the southeast. Hopefully there's a breakthrough

Very perplexed by African countries going through with their summit meeting with Putin. Genuinely bizarre. There's no good outcome here.

I'm not worried at all.

Sure, they can buy off the corrupt government heads with hookers and money, but that will be similar to their relationship with Saudi Arabia - a marriage of convenience that ends in divorce when the water gets too hot.

It will give the Africans time to really get to know Russians well. The average ultranationalist supporting the government is exceptionally xenophobic and unconditionally racist. My guess is that some FSB agent or cop will see a black diplomat on the street, not realize they're a dignitary and treat them exactly the way the other 0.04% of blacks are treated in Russia. It will be a 'warm welcome' I'm sure. In the end, I think the Russian government will drive their own wedge between themselves and Africa.

LOL you say this like thousands of Africans haven't been educated in Russia over the last fifty years. They've experienced life on the Russian streets in full, and yet lived to tell the tale, and somehow retained a warm affection for the country.

Thirty thousand African students are enrolled in higher education programs in Russia today.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1131857/number-of-african-students-in-russia-by-country/

The US has tens of thousands of African students too. Interesting that hardly any of Russia's African students ever bother to stay in Russia, or to come back to Russia after finishing their studies. Russia's population is only 0.06% African origin, only around 90,000 total, including your 30,000 students. Compare that to to 2.1 million African immigrants living in the US. Russia goes through the motions with its legacy Soviet-era student program, but is NOT that attractive to Africans.

Are African students in the US studying on an all-expenses-paid program?

Russian education programs for the African students are explicitly designed for these students to return home so their communities can benefit from their expertise. (Which is exactly the purpose for the multiple US scholarship program like FUllbright and Muskie, where beneficiaries are legally required to return to their home country for at least 2 years).

I am sure you realize that historically there is no native African population in Russia. A bit disingenuous to compare that to the African immigrant community in the US.

No dear, you misread. There are 2.1 million African-born immigrants in the US. As in, not born in the US and came to the US. In addition to the African-Americans. Thus your excuse for why there aren't more Africans in Russia is a failure.

Does Russia need an excuse for not having enough Africans? It's not an immigration state like America is, for better or worse. There isn't any organic reason for there to be a sizable African community in Russia.

FAIL. What you mean to say is that Russia is racist, does not like Africans, and the only reason they do things like pay Africans to go to college in Russia is for performative reasons to try and use it to expand their sphere of influence. But the Africans who've actually done it, experienced the "streets of Russia" for themselves see right through it, they see that they are unwelcome in Russia, and for that reason, do not choose to stay.

If there isn't an "organic reason" for Africans to be in Russia, then there isn't an organic reason for anyone to be there.

Would you say the same thing to, like, Iceland? Their African population is probably negligible.

Every foreign student who elects not to stay is doing it because they feel unwelcome? Hmmm. You think immigration laws have nothing to do with that? You have magic powers that see into the hearts of men and discern the reasons they do things? Okay. I suggest you take steps to monetize them. Magic powers are fleeting!

On second thought though, do continue. Never change. I'm just gonna sit here and enjoy the delicious irony of America accusing other countries of racism. While you ponder your next tirade, I'm gonna switch to the DCPS section and enjoy the hand-wringing about "school quality" and lottery agony by way of illustrations to the racism conundrum. Please do come up with something fresh in the meantime.

Unlike Russia, Iceland doesn't exactly go around trying to position itself as a global superpower trying to expand its sphere of inflience by any means necessary.

Yet another flaming, flailing FAIL on your part. But at least it's good to see you're running out of steam, as you ran out of arguments long ago.

So

All countries try to expand their sphere of influence by any means necessary. If you think America expands its sphere of influence by sending fruit baskets, I got nothing to say to you. Your problem is that you don't think anyone except America should have a sphere of influence so you pout when you see other countries try. Especially countries you don't approve of.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Ukraine has committed its forces in the southeast. Hopefully there's a breakthrough

Very perplexed by African countries going through with their summit meeting with Putin. Genuinely bizarre. There's no good outcome here.

I'm not worried at all.

Sure, they can buy off the corrupt government heads with hookers and money, but that will be similar to their relationship with Saudi Arabia - a marriage of convenience that ends in divorce when the water gets too hot.

It will give the Africans time to really get to know Russians well. The average ultranationalist supporting the government is exceptionally xenophobic and unconditionally racist. My guess is that some FSB agent or cop will see a black diplomat on the street, not realize they're a dignitary and treat them exactly the way the other 0.04% of blacks are treated in Russia. It will be a 'warm welcome' I'm sure. In the end, I think the Russian government will drive their own wedge between themselves and Africa.

LOL you say this like thousands of Africans haven't been educated in Russia over the last fifty years. They've experienced life on the Russian streets in full, and yet lived to tell the tale, and somehow retained a warm affection for the country.

Thirty thousand African students are enrolled in higher education programs in Russia today.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1131857/number-of-african-students-in-russia-by-country/

The US has tens of thousands of African students too. Interesting that hardly any of Russia's African students ever bother to stay in Russia, or to come back to Russia after finishing their studies. Russia's population is only 0.06% African origin, only around 90,000 total, including your 30,000 students. Compare that to to 2.1 million African immigrants living in the US. Russia goes through the motions with its legacy Soviet-era student program, but is NOT that attractive to Africans.

Are African students in the US studying on an all-expenses-paid program?

Russian education programs for the African students are explicitly designed for these students to return home so their communities can benefit from their expertise. (Which is exactly the purpose for the multiple US scholarship program like FUllbright and Muskie, where beneficiaries are legally required to return to their home country for at least 2 years).

I am sure you realize that historically there is no native African population in Russia. A bit disingenuous to compare that to the African immigrant community in the US.

No dear, you misread. There are 2.1 million African-born immigrants in the US. As in, not born in the US and came to the US. In addition to the African-Americans. Thus your excuse for why there aren't more Africans in Russia is a failure.

Does Russia need an excuse for not having enough Africans? It's not an immigration state like America is, for better or worse. There isn't any organic reason for there to be a sizable African community in Russia.

FAIL. What you mean to say is that Russia is racist, does not like Africans, and the only reason they do things like pay Africans to go to college in Russia is for performative reasons to try and use it to expand their sphere of influence. But the Africans who've actually done it, experienced the "streets of Russia" for themselves see right through it, they see that they are unwelcome in Russia, and for that reason, do not choose to stay.

If there isn't an "organic reason" for Africans to be in Russia, then there isn't an organic reason for anyone to be there.

Would you say the same thing to, like, Iceland? Their African population is probably negligible.

Every foreign student who elects not to stay is doing it because they feel unwelcome? Hmmm. You think immigration laws have nothing to do with that? You have magic powers that see into the hearts of men and discern the reasons they do things? Okay. I suggest you take steps to monetize them. Magic powers are fleeting!

On second thought though, do continue. Never change. I'm just gonna sit here and enjoy the delicious irony of America accusing other countries of racism. While you ponder your next tirade, I'm gonna switch to the DCPS section and enjoy the hand-wringing about "school quality" and lottery agony by way of illustrations to the racism conundrum. Please do come up with something fresh in the meantime.

Why are you here? All you do is bash and accuse America of hypocrisy, racism, whatever else. It's clear you hate America. And you're probably also the same poster who has repeatedly talked about how much x costs in back home in a Russian supermarket, and who was whining that you have a Russian family member "suffering" because they are named on a sanctions list for supporting the war in Ukraine. So why are you even here at all, in this country that you spew so much bile and hatred for? If Russia is so great and wonderful and America is so awful, how about you go there, and leave the rest of us, who don't hate America, out of your delusional hateful diatribes?

(This is why, boys and girls, you can never have a sincere conversation with an American about America. It always comes to this. Always. Trust me on this. As an immigrant, there are certain things you are simply not allowed to say.)

Why am I here? I'm a DC area mom - just like you. This is a free forum.

I don't happen to hate America. There are many things here that are wonderful. America's foreign policy, though, is not one of them.

Do feel free to write to Jeff, though. Maybe he'd introduce a set of thought rules and principles one must embrace before posting here. Until then, I'm as free to post here as you are.

This is why you can't have a sincere conversation about Russia with you. It always comes to "What about America?" Always. Trust me on this.

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Btw no one argues Russia's invasions are "more moral". That's nonsense. The argument is, and has always been, that the US, as a habitual invader, has no business lecturing anyone or claiming the moral high ground.

What a weird thing to say! The morality of an action does not depend on who is describing it.

I actually like listening to Radio Sputnik because they have much better coverage of news around the world than I can easily find in US news. And they sometimes give legit criticism of the US and Western countries, e.g. in Yemen. I am not going to ignore this criticism because of Russia's genocidal invasion of Ukraine. I still want Russia lecturing me on mistakes that the US has made.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Ukraine has committed its forces in the southeast. Hopefully there's a breakthrough

Very perplexed by African countries going through with their summit meeting with Putin. Genuinely bizarre. There's no good outcome here.

I'm not worried at all.

Sure, they can buy off the corrupt government heads with hookers and money, but that will be similar to their relationship with Saudi Arabia - a marriage of convenience that ends in divorce when the water gets too hot.

It will give the Africans time to really get to know Russians well. The average ultranationalist supporting the government is exceptionally xenophobic and unconditionally racist. My guess is that some FSB agent or cop will see a black diplomat on the street, not realize they're a dignitary and treat them exactly the way the other 0.04% of blacks are treated in Russia. It will be a 'warm welcome' I'm sure. In the end, I think the Russian government will drive their own wedge between themselves and Africa.

LOL you say this like thousands of Africans haven't been educated in Russia over the last fifty years. They've experienced life on the Russian streets in full, and yet lived to tell the tale, and somehow retained a warm affection for the country.

Thirty thousand African students are enrolled in higher education programs in Russia today.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1131857/number-of-african-students-in-russia-by-country/

The US has tens of thousands of African students too. Interesting that hardly any of Russia's African students ever bother to stay in Russia, or to come back to Russia after finishing their studies. Russia's population is only 0.06% African origin, only around 90,000 total, including your 30,000 students. Compare that to to 2.1 million African immigrants living in the US. Russia goes through the motions with its legacy Soviet-era student program, but is NOT that attractive to Africans.

Are African students in the US studying on an all-expenses-paid program?

Russian education programs for the African students are explicitly designed for these students to return home so their communities can benefit from their expertise. (Which is exactly the purpose for the multiple US scholarship program like FUllbright and Muskie, where beneficiaries are legally required to return to their home country for at least 2 years).

I am sure you realize that historically there is no native African population in Russia. A bit disingenuous to compare that to the African immigrant community in the US.

No dear, you misread. There are 2.1 million African-born immigrants in the US. As in, not born in the US and came to the US. In addition to the African-Americans. Thus your excuse for why there aren't more Africans in Russia is a failure.

Does Russia need an excuse for not having enough Africans? It's not an immigration state like America is, for better or worse. There isn't any organic reason for there to be a sizable African community in Russia.

FAIL. What you mean to say is that Russia is racist, does not like Africans, and the only reason they do things like pay Africans to go to college in Russia is for performative reasons to try and use it to expand their sphere of influence. But the Africans who've actually done it, experienced the "streets of Russia" for themselves see right through it, they see that they are unwelcome in Russia, and for that reason, do not choose to stay.

If there isn't an "organic reason" for Africans to be in Russia, then there isn't an organic reason for anyone to be there.

Would you say the same thing to, like, Iceland? Their African population is probably negligible.

Every foreign student who elects not to stay is doing it because they feel unwelcome? Hmmm. You think immigration laws have nothing to do with that? You have magic powers that see into the hearts of men and discern the reasons they do things? Okay. I suggest you take steps to monetize them. Magic powers are fleeting!

On second thought though, do continue. Never change. I'm just gonna sit here and enjoy the delicious irony of America accusing other countries of racism. While you ponder your next tirade, I'm gonna switch to the DCPS section and enjoy the hand-wringing about "school quality" and lottery agony by way of illustrations to the racism conundrum. Please do come up with something fresh in the meantime.

Why are you here? All you do is bash and accuse America of hypocrisy, racism, whatever else. It's clear you hate America. And you're probably also the same poster who has repeatedly talked about how much x costs in back home in a Russian supermarket, and who was whining that you have a Russian family member "suffering" because they are named on a sanctions list for supporting the war in Ukraine. So why are you even here at all, in this country that you spew so much bile and hatred for? If Russia is so great and wonderful and America is so awful, how about you go there, and leave the rest of us, who don't hate America, out of your delusional hateful diatribes?

(This is why, boys and girls, you can never have a sincere conversation with an American about America. It always comes to this. Always. Trust me on this. As an immigrant, there are certain things you are simply not allowed to say.)

Why am I here? I'm a DC area mom - just like you. This is a free forum.

I don't happen to hate America. There are many things here that are wonderful. America's foreign policy, though, is not one of them.

Do feel free to write to Jeff, though. Maybe he'd introduce a set of thought rules and principles one must embrace before posting here. Until then, I'm as free to post here as you are.

This is why you can't have a sincere conversation about Russia with you. It always comes to "What about America?" Always. Trust me on this.

You kinda walk into these things when you make sweeping statements like "don't invade other countries if you don't want bad things to happen to you!"

I mean, pot, meet kettle.

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What a weird thing to say! The morality of an action does not depend on who is describing it.

I actually like listening to Radio Sputnik because they have much better coverage of news around the world than I can easily find in US news. And they sometimes give legit criticism of the US and Western countries, e.g. in Yemen. I am not going to ignore this criticism because of Russia's genocidal invasion of Ukraine. I still want Russia lecturing me on mistakes that the US has made.

I see. I take it you would be happy to listen to the lecture titled "The Evils of Underage Gymnast Abuse" by Larry Nassar?

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Ukraine has committed its forces in the southeast. Hopefully there's a breakthrough

Very perplexed by African countries going through with their summit meeting with Putin. Genuinely bizarre. There's no good outcome here.

I'm not worried at all.

Sure, they can buy off the corrupt government heads with hookers and money, but that will be similar to their relationship with Saudi Arabia - a marriage of convenience that ends in divorce when the water gets too hot.

It will give the Africans time to really get to know Russians well. The average ultranationalist supporting the government is exceptionally xenophobic and unconditionally racist. My guess is that some FSB agent or cop will see a black diplomat on the street, not realize they're a dignitary and treat them exactly the way the other 0.04% of blacks are treated in Russia. It will be a 'warm welcome' I'm sure. In the end, I think the Russian government will drive their own wedge between themselves and Africa.

LOL you say this like thousands of Africans haven't been educated in Russia over the last fifty years. They've experienced life on the Russian streets in full, and yet lived to tell the tale, and somehow retained a warm affection for the country.

Thirty thousand African students are enrolled in higher education programs in Russia today.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1131857/number-of-african-students-in-russia-by-country/

The US has tens of thousands of African students too. Interesting that hardly any of Russia's African students ever bother to stay in Russia, or to come back to Russia after finishing their studies. Russia's population is only 0.06% African origin, only around 90,000 total, including your 30,000 students. Compare that to to 2.1 million African immigrants living in the US. Russia goes through the motions with its legacy Soviet-era student program, but is NOT that attractive to Africans.

Are African students in the US studying on an all-expenses-paid program?

Russian education programs for the African students are explicitly designed for these students to return home so their communities can benefit from their expertise. (Which is exactly the purpose for the multiple US scholarship program like FUllbright and Muskie, where beneficiaries are legally required to return to their home country for at least 2 years).

I am sure you realize that historically there is no native African population in Russia. A bit disingenuous to compare that to the African immigrant community in the US.

No dear, you misread. There are 2.1 million African-born immigrants in the US. As in, not born in the US and came to the US. In addition to the African-Americans. Thus your excuse for why there aren't more Africans in Russia is a failure.

Does Russia need an excuse for not having enough Africans? It's not an immigration state like America is, for better or worse. There isn't any organic reason for there to be a sizable African community in Russia.

FAIL. What you mean to say is that Russia is racist, does not like Africans, and the only reason they do things like pay Africans to go to college in Russia is for performative reasons to try and use it to expand their sphere of influence. But the Africans who've actually done it, experienced the "streets of Russia" for themselves see right through it, they see that they are unwelcome in Russia, and for that reason, do not choose to stay.

If there isn't an "organic reason" for Africans to be in Russia, then there isn't an organic reason for anyone to be there.

Would you say the same thing to, like, Iceland? Their African population is probably negligible.

Every foreign student who elects not to stay is doing it because they feel unwelcome? Hmmm. You think immigration laws have nothing to do with that? You have magic powers that see into the hearts of men and discern the reasons they do things? Okay. I suggest you take steps to monetize them. Magic powers are fleeting!

On second thought though, do continue. Never change. I'm just gonna sit here and enjoy the delicious irony of America accusing other countries of racism. While you ponder your next tirade, I'm gonna switch to the DCPS section and enjoy the hand-wringing about "school quality" and lottery agony by way of illustrations to the racism conundrum. Please do come up with something fresh in the meantime.

Unlike Russia, Iceland doesn't exactly go around trying to position itself as a global superpower trying to expand its sphere of inflience by any means necessary.

Yet another flaming, flailing FAIL on your part. But at least it's good to see you're running out of steam, as you ran out of arguments long ago.

So

All countries try to expand their sphere of influence by any means necessary. If you think America expands its sphere of influence by sending fruit baskets, I got nothing to say to you. Your problem is that you don't think anyone except America should have a sphere of influence so you pout when you see other countries try. Especially countries you don't approve of.

Not everyone pouts. Sorry to disappoint, but most non-immigrant, average Americans don't particularly care about the politics of other countries (let alone could find those countries on a map), and it's mostly due to immigration or economic or alliance influences that get the US involved into overseas politics, imho. The same probably would have been said of Ukraine (as it was in 2014), except Putin was idiot enough to mess with US voting - which put Russia in the news spotlight. Once that happened, the War Crimes Russia committed took over; which is why your statement "by any means necessary" is ingenuous. If Russia hadn't committed extensive War Crimes or messed with US politics, sentiment would probably be less polarized against Russia - so, Russia reaped what it sowed?

"Colonel Polyakov was head of the FSB's Service for the Protection of Constitutional Order and the Fight against Terrorism - Second Service"
https://www.intelligenceonline.com/government-intelligence/2023/07/24/the-real-reason-for-ex-fsb-polyakov-s-arrest,110006149-art

"Polyakov was responsible for repressing dissidents; now, he finds himself behind bars. In Russia, this case is reminiscent of the “Great Terror” during Soviet times when many NKVD (People’s Commissariat for Internal Affairs) officers who had participated in Stalin’s repressions were later subdued themselves"
https://www.stopfake.org/en/propaganda-and-repression-turn-against-their-creators-in-russia/

"Do you know how many dead bodies there are? It's terrible what's going on here. When we went on a mission, there were 20 corpses lying around."
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-soldiers-killed-ukraine-bakhmut-compensation-putin-war-1815514

"Wagner has not been radically restructured, Prigozhin has not been murdered or jailed, and there has been no purge of Wagner sympathizers in the army, nor any major moves against the country’s “ultra-patriots” (apart from the arrest of the former Donbass separatist commander Igor Girkin)."
https://carnegieendowment.org/politika/90275

"The new legislation, which comes into effect on Jan. 1, means men will be required to carry out a year of military service, or equivalent training during higher education, between the ages of 18 and 30, rather than 18 and 27 as now. The law also bans men from leaving Russia from the day they are summoned to a conscription office."
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-lawmakers-vote-raise-conscription-age-limit-30-2023-07-25/

"New legislation opens up for establishment of regional military companies that will be in charge of "guarding the state border in times of war.""
"the new regional units will be armed and allowed to use force. And they will “interact with the Interior Ministry, the FSB and Ministry of Defence to protect the state border, fight illegal armed groups and combat foreign sabotage and intelligence formations,” "
https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/2023/07/russian-governors-could-soon-start-building-regional-armies

If Russian conscription is so bad, why would the regional governors do something to reduce the conscription by the Central government?

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Anonymous wrote:There are reports out there now that the NATO plan was based on assumption that Russia had a half decent military they would take Ukraine in a couple weeks; and a garrison of 500k soldiers would be required to stay indefinitely to pacify the country.

The original plan was to fund the insurgency and bankrupt Russia in 3 years.

This version looks like it will take more than 3 years, but kill a lot more Russians than planned….so everything works out!

If NATO was counting on Russians going insurgent against Russia, then they've become mentally broken by Iraq.

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Anonymous wrote:There are reports out there now that the NATO plan was based on assumption that Russia had a half decent military they would take Ukraine in a couple weeks; and a garrison of 500k soldiers would be required to stay indefinitely to pacify the country.

The original plan was to fund the insurgency and bankrupt Russia in 3 years.

This version looks like it will take more than 3 years, but kill a lot more Russians than planned….so everything works out!

If NATO was counting on Russians going insurgent against Russia, then they've become mentally broken by Iraq.

Ukrainians going insurgent against Russians.

But NATO got super lucky with a full on war killing thousands of Russians. NATO over achieved on this one. Can you even guess how many Russians have died, or lost limbs, or have mental/brain injuries from this war?

It is like a gift that keeps on giving.

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Anonymous wrote:There are reports out there now that the NATO plan was based on assumption that Russia had a half decent military they would take Ukraine in a couple weeks; and a garrison of 500k soldiers would be required to stay indefinitely to pacify the country.

The original plan was to fund the insurgency and bankrupt Russia in 3 years.

This version looks like it will take more than 3 years, but kill a lot more Russians than planned….so everything works out!

If NATO was counting on Russians going insurgent against Russia, then they've become mentally broken by Iraq.

Ukrainians going insurgent against Russians.

But NATO got super lucky with a full on war killing thousands of Russians. NATO over achieved on this one. Can you even guess how many Russians have died, or lost limbs, or have mental/brain injuries from this war?

It is like a gift that keeps on giving.

Imagine that number and then add “Ukrainians”. They died too.

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Anonymous wrote:There are reports out there now that the NATO plan was based on assumption that Russia had a half decent military they would take Ukraine in a couple weeks; and a garrison of 500k soldiers would be required to stay indefinitely to pacify the country.

The original plan was to fund the insurgency and bankrupt Russia in 3 years.

This version looks like it will take more than 3 years, but kill a lot more Russians than planned….so everything works out!

If NATO was counting on Russians going insurgent against Russia, then they've become mentally broken by Iraq.

Ukrainians going insurgent against Russians.

But NATO got super lucky with a full on war killing thousands of Russians. NATO over achieved on this one. Can you even guess how many Russians have died, or lost limbs, or have mental/brain injuries from this war?

It is like a gift that keeps on giving.

Imagine that number and then add “Ukrainians”. They died too.

Yeah, the Ukrainians who were just living in their country and got invaded.
Russia is murdering lots of them, it sucks.

But super fun to watch videos and images of the Russian casualties. I am sure Russia enjoyed American losses in our wars - but Russia is soooooo much better at getting their soldiers killed and stuff blown up. Way more content. Russia is like the new Netflix for combat videos and what “not to do” to win a war. It is like one one ongoing epic fail.

Hilarious!

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Anonymous wrote:There are reports out there now that the NATO plan was based on assumption that Russia had a half decent military they would take Ukraine in a couple weeks; and a garrison of 500k soldiers would be required to stay indefinitely to pacify the country.

The original plan was to fund the insurgency and bankrupt Russia in 3 years.

This version looks like it will take more than 3 years, but kill a lot more Russians than planned….so everything works out!

If NATO was counting on Russians going insurgent against Russia, then they've become mentally broken by Iraq.

Ukrainians going insurgent against Russians.

But NATO got super lucky with a full on war killing thousands of Russians. NATO over achieved on this one. Can you even guess how many Russians have died, or lost limbs, or have mental/brain injuries from this war?

It is like a gift that keeps on giving.

Imagine that number and then add “Ukrainians”. They died too.

Yeah, the Ukrainians who were just living in their country and got invaded.
Russia is murdering lots of them, it sucks.

But super fun to watch videos and images of the Russian casualties. I am sure Russia enjoyed American losses in our wars - but Russia is soooooo much better at getting their soldiers killed and stuff blown up. Way more content. Russia is like the new Netflix for combat videos and what “not to do” to win a war. It is like one one ongoing epic fail.

Hilarious!

Russia should have called it a day when they weren’t competent enough to keep their gas tanks full on the way to Kyiv.

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Anonymous wrote:There are reports out there now that the NATO plan was based on assumption that Russia had a half decent military they would take Ukraine in a couple weeks; and a garrison of 500k soldiers would be required to stay indefinitely to pacify the country.

The original plan was to fund the insurgency and bankrupt Russia in 3 years.

This version looks like it will take more than 3 years, but kill a lot more Russians than planned….so everything works out!

If NATO was counting on Russians going insurgent against Russia, then they've become mentally broken by Iraq.

Ukrainians going insurgent against Russians.

But NATO got super lucky with a full on war killing thousands of Russians. NATO over achieved on this one. Can you even guess how many Russians have died, or lost limbs, or have mental/brain injuries from this war?

It is like a gift that keeps on giving.

Imagine that number and then add “Ukrainians”. They died too.

Yeah, the Ukrainians who were just living in their country and got invaded.
Russia is murdering lots of them, it sucks.

But super fun to watch videos and images of the Russian casualties. I am sure Russia enjoyed American losses in our wars - but Russia is soooooo much better at getting their soldiers killed and stuff blown up. Way more content. Russia is like the new Netflix for combat videos and what “not to do” to win a war. It is like one one ongoing epic fail.

Hilarious!

My poor sweet child, you’re a perfect consumer for these videos and you don’t even realize it. You’re like an uncompensated focus group. Not even a plate of stale cookies and a glass of juice made from concentrate.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There are reports out there now that the NATO plan was based on assumption that Russia had a half decent military they would take Ukraine in a couple weeks; and a garrison of 500k soldiers would be required to stay indefinitely to pacify the country.

The original plan was to fund the insurgency and bankrupt Russia in 3 years.

This version looks like it will take more than 3 years, but kill a lot more Russians than planned….so everything works out!

If NATO was counting on Russians going insurgent against Russia, then they've become mentally broken by Iraq.

Ukrainians going insurgent against Russians.

But NATO got super lucky with a full on war killing thousands of Russians. NATO over achieved on this one. Can you even guess how many Russians have died, or lost limbs, or have mental/brain injuries from this war?

It is like a gift that keeps on giving.

Imagine that number and then add “Ukrainians”. They died too.

Yeah, the Ukrainians who were just living in their country and got invaded.
Russia is murdering lots of them, it sucks.

But super fun to watch videos and images of the Russian casualties. I am sure Russia enjoyed American losses in our wars - but Russia is soooooo much better at getting their soldiers killed and stuff blown up. Way more content. Russia is like the new Netflix for combat videos and what “not to do” to win a war. It is like one one ongoing epic fail.

Hilarious!

My poor sweet child, you’re a perfect consumer for these videos and you don’t even realize it. You’re like an uncompensated focus group. Not even a plate of stale cookies and a glass of juice made from concentrate.

Yeah, but I mean…isn’t that what PP said? I enjoy them too. There’s going to be a lot more coming out over the next two weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:There are reports out there now that the NATO plan was based on assumption that Russia had a half decent military they would take Ukraine in a couple weeks; and a garrison of 500k soldiers would be required to stay indefinitely to pacify the country.

The original plan was to fund the insurgency and bankrupt Russia in 3 years.

This version looks like it will take more than 3 years, but kill a lot more Russians than planned….so everything works out!

If NATO was counting on Russians going insurgent against Russia, then they've become mentally broken by Iraq.

Ukrainians going insurgent against Russians.

But NATO got super lucky with a full on war killing thousands of Russians. NATO over achieved on this one. Can you even guess how many Russians have died, or lost limbs, or have mental/brain injuries from this war?

It is like a gift that keeps on giving.

Imagine that number and then add “Ukrainians”. They died too.

Yeah, the Ukrainians who were just living in their country and got invaded.
Russia is murdering lots of them, it sucks.

But super fun to watch videos and images of the Russian casualties. I am sure Russia enjoyed American losses in our wars - but Russia is soooooo much better at getting their soldiers killed and stuff blown up. Way more content. Russia is like the new Netflix for combat videos and what “not to do” to win a war. It is like one one ongoing epic fail.

Hilarious!

My poor sweet child, you’re a perfect consumer for these videos and you don’t even realize it. You’re like an uncompensated focus group. Not even a plate of stale cookies and a glass of juice made from concentrate.

Yeah, but I mean…isn’t that what PP said? I enjoy them too. There’s going to be a lot more coming out over the next two weeks.

It’s not what PP said…it’s what it says about PP. He’s like a kid at the checkout counter next to the crappiest candy placed at his eye level for a reason.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Ukraine has committed its forces in the southeast. Hopefully there's a breakthrough

Very perplexed by African countries going through with their summit meeting with Putin. Genuinely bizarre. There's no good outcome here.

I'm not worried at all.

Sure, they can buy off the corrupt government heads with hookers and money, but that will be similar to their relationship with Saudi Arabia - a marriage of convenience that ends in divorce when the water gets too hot.

It will give the Africans time to really get to know Russians well. The average ultranationalist supporting the government is exceptionally xenophobic and unconditionally racist. My guess is that some FSB agent or cop will see a black diplomat on the street, not realize they're a dignitary and treat them exactly the way the other 0.04% of blacks are treated in Russia. It will be a 'warm welcome' I'm sure. In the end, I think the Russian government will drive their own wedge between themselves and Africa.

LOL you say this like thousands of Africans haven't been educated in Russia over the last fifty years. They've experienced life on the Russian streets in full, and yet lived to tell the tale, and somehow retained a warm affection for the country.

Thirty thousand African students are enrolled in higher education programs in Russia today.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1131857/number-of-african-students-in-russia-by-country/

The US has tens of thousands of African students too. Interesting that hardly any of Russia's African students ever bother to stay in Russia, or to come back to Russia after finishing their studies. Russia's population is only 0.06% African origin, only around 90,000 total, including your 30,000 students. Compare that to to 2.1 million African immigrants living in the US. Russia goes through the motions with its legacy Soviet-era student program, but is NOT that attractive to Africans.

Are African students in the US studying on an all-expenses-paid program?

Russian education programs for the African students are explicitly designed for these students to return home so their communities can benefit from their expertise. (Which is exactly the purpose for the multiple US scholarship program like FUllbright and Muskie, where beneficiaries are legally required to return to their home country for at least 2 years).

I am sure you realize that historically there is no native African population in Russia. A bit disingenuous to compare that to the African immigrant community in the US.

No dear, you misread. There are 2.1 million African-born immigrants in the US. As in, not born in the US and came to the US. In addition to the African-Americans. Thus your excuse for why there aren't more Africans in Russia is a failure.

Does Russia need an excuse for not having enough Africans? It's not an immigration state like America is, for better or worse. There isn't any organic reason for there to be a sizable African community in Russia.

FAIL. What you mean to say is that Russia is racist, does not like Africans, and the only reason they do things like pay Africans to go to college in Russia is for performative reasons to try and use it to expand their sphere of influence. But the Africans who've actually done it, experienced the "streets of Russia" for themselves see right through it, they see that they are unwelcome in Russia, and for that reason, do not choose to stay.

If there isn't an "organic reason" for Africans to be in Russia, then there isn't an organic reason for anyone to be there.

Would you say the same thing to, like, Iceland? Their African population is probably negligible.

Every foreign student who elects not to stay is doing it because they feel unwelcome? Hmmm. You think immigration laws have nothing to do with that? You have magic powers that see into the hearts of men and discern the reasons they do things? Okay. I suggest you take steps to monetize them. Magic powers are fleeting!

On second thought though, do continue. Never change. I'm just gonna sit here and enjoy the delicious irony of America accusing other countries of racism. While you ponder your next tirade, I'm gonna switch to the DCPS section and enjoy the hand-wringing about "school quality" and lottery agony by way of illustrations to the racism conundrum. Please do come up with something fresh in the meantime.

Why are you here? All you do is bash and accuse America of hypocrisy, racism, whatever else. It's clear you hate America. And you're probably also the same poster who has repeatedly talked about how much x costs in back home in a Russian supermarket, and who was whining that you have a Russian family member "suffering" because they are named on a sanctions list for supporting the war in Ukraine. So why are you even here at all, in this country that you spew so much bile and hatred for? If Russia is so great and wonderful and America is so awful, how about you go there, and leave the rest of us, who don't hate America, out of your delusional hateful diatribes?

(This is why, boys and girls, you can never have a sincere conversation with an American about America. It always comes to this. Always. Trust me on this. As an immigrant, there are certain things you are simply not allowed to say.)

Why am I here? I'm a DC area mom - just like you. This is a free forum.

I don't happen to hate America. There are many things here that are wonderful. America's foreign policy, though, is not one of them.

Do feel free to write to Jeff, though. Maybe he'd introduce a set of thought rules and principles one must embrace before posting here. Until then, I'm as free to post here as you are.

This is why you can't have a sincere conversation about Russia with you. It always comes to "What about America?" Always. Trust me on this.

Constant deflection, and then right back to trashing America. What a piece of work.