Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

Tina is no longer linked on Brandon’s IG

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well looks from his insta like Brandon has been reading here, lol, and is trying to make his job and F250 look as inflated as he thinks it is after the criticism here. Nice try. Dude should just put his head down and be grateful for being handed and nice job from someone and stop trying to look more important than you are. No shame in no fame and a ‘regular guy’ job.

Agreed. It feels like a direct response to DCUM. Now that he’s abandoned his family, candy he just and move on with Texas Barbie? He got his fresh start and yet he’s still choosing to marinate in Jen’s world??? This conversation may be largely snark about Jen, but it’s definitely ALL about Jen. If he’s letting this get to him, imagine how much more he let get to him as Jen’s star rose. It’s time for Brandon to move on. For real.

[Anonymous]

What’s up with the flat brimmed baseball caps pulled down over the eyebrows? I’ve only ever seen Brandon do this. Is this a thing somewhere? Some kind of wanna be gangsta look? Is it south texas? Looks ridiculous on a 50 year old. No one his age are doing this where I live. Just curious.
Obviously he’s covering his balding head and fighting aging but still…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well looks from his insta like Brandon has been reading here, lol, and is trying to make his job and F250 look as inflated as he thinks it is after the criticism here. Nice try. Dude should just put his head down and be grateful for being handed and nice job from someone and stop trying to look more important than you are. No shame in no fame and a ‘regular guy’ job.

Agreed. It feels like a direct response to DCUM. Now that he’s abandoned his family, candy he just and move on with Texas Barbie? He got his fresh start and yet he’s still choosing to marinate in Jen’s world??? This conversation may be largely snark about Jen, but it’s definitely ALL about Jen. If he’s letting this get to him, imagine how much more he let get to him as Jen’s star rose. It’s time for Brandon to move on. For real.

Yes. He’s making abundantly clear that he COULD NOT HANDLE that Jen had the fame and he didn’t really. And he clearly still can’t handle it. His whole vibe is screaming for attention and trying to prove something. As if we don’t know he’s still probably riding Jen’s coat tails in the form of using his divorce money for that lifestyle lol.

[Anonymous]

I’m conflicted about his getting half of the money knowing the bulk was made by Jen with her books/speaking/podcasts. It’s especially egregious if he did cheat with a much younger woman then hooked up with Tina immediately post split.
But, Brandon was the runway Jen took off of into her success. He provided endless support as she pursued her dreams. Every time she was gone he took care of their 5 kids. Even when she was there he did a lot of the mundane tasks required in running a home and managing 5 active kids lives.
He started a church with Tray where Jen could be an equal pastor as a woman. Which Jen sold to her audiences elevating her credibility as a biblical authority.
There’s no doubt in my mind Jen would not have been able to achieve what she has without the countless ways Brandon was serving her and their family in those early years.
Now watching him spend his divorce settlement on a big engagement ring and endless date nights is hard to watch.
Divorce sucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m conflicted about his getting half of the money knowing the bulk was made by Jen with her books/speaking/podcasts. It’s especially egregious if he did cheat with a much younger woman then hooked up with Tina immediately post split.
But, Brandon was the runway Jen took off of into her success. He provided endless support as she pursued her dreams. Every time she was gone he took care of their 5 kids. Even when she was there he did a lot of the mundane tasks required in running a home and managing 5 active kids lives.
He started a church with Tray where Jen could be an equal pastor as a woman. Which Jen sold to her audiences elevating her credibility as a biblical authority.
There’s no doubt in my mind Jen would not have been able to achieve what she has without the countless ways Brandon was serving her and their family in those early years.
Now watching him spend his divorce settlement on a big engagement ring and endless date nights is hard to watch.
Divorce sucks.

Most of what you’re describing sounds like a partnership where all parties were contributing and supporting. Typically, it’s the wife doing the more mundane tasks, but Jen and Brandon are not an anomaly with this type of dynamic, especially in the Austin area. It’s a shame that ego (everyone’s??), addiction, and infidelity ruined it for them.

It doesn’t seem like either one of them is truly content with themselves in their new lives, despite the constant SM barrage from both of them insisting they are living their best lives ever.

[Anonymous]

Brandon worshiped at the altar of Jen himself. I don’t think he was threatened by her bright shining success, but needed to know he was still special to her even if 500,000+ followers liked her posts everyday.
He didn’t need the fame or adulation of the masses, he craved Jen’s undivided love and attention. The one thing he could almost never get. That’s why he made the comment how Tina makes him feel like he’s the only guy in the room even when there is a crowd. He felt invisible when Jen was in show mode.
He became bitter and resentful as he realized he’d helped create a monster. The more her fan base grew the less she needed or valued him. Her love tank was getting filled by her fans while his was steadily depleted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Brandon worshiped at the altar of Jen himself. I don’t think he was threatened by her bright shining success, but needed to know he was still special to her even if 500,000+ followers liked her posts everyday.
He didn’t need the fame or adulation of the masses, he craved Jen’s undivided love and attention. The one thing he could almost never get. That’s why he made the comment how Tina makes him feel like he’s the only guy in the room even when there is a crowd. He felt invisible when Jen was in show mode.
He became bitter and resentful as he realized he’d helped create a monster. The more her fan base grew the less she needed or valued him. Her love tank was getting filled by her fans while his was steadily depleted.

Jen made a similar comment on the podcast with Tyler. I can’t remember what it was, but they have both made passive aggressive statements about how their new relationships don’t have this particular strain. I can see it both ways—everyone deserves to feel special attention from their spouse, but this requires a heathy balance that the Hatmakers clearly have. Undivided love and attention from a working mom of 5 who is the family’s main bread winner—sure, she needs to make that time, but how is that even defined? Was she giving of herself and it just wasn’t enough for Brandon? And giving what? Is attention an innuendo for sex? I’d be more sympathetic toward Brandon if his current relationship and SM boasting didn’t point to all things needing to be all about Brandon and hyper sexual all of the time. Ain’t no working mom of 5 have time to stroke that kind of ego.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've never really followed JH, but I just have to say as someone who grew up in the Northeast, this whole Texas look just cracks me up. It's funny to me that Brandon thinks he looks bad*ss. But you know, to each their own. Lots of things don't translate across cultures.

I'm from Texas and even I agree with you. The "Texas look" is everywhere and very cringe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brandon worshiped at the altar of Jen himself. I don’t think he was threatened by her bright shining success, but needed to know he was still special to her even if 500,000+ followers liked her posts everyday.
He didn’t need the fame or adulation of the masses, he craved Jen’s undivided love and attention. The one thing he could almost never get. That’s why he made the comment how Tina makes him feel like he’s the only guy in the room even when there is a crowd. He felt invisible when Jen was in show mode.
He became bitter and resentful as he realized he’d helped create a monster. The more her fan base grew the less she needed or valued him. Her love tank was getting filled by her fans while his was steadily depleted.

Jen made a similar comment on the podcast with Tyler. I can’t remember what it was, but they have both made passive aggressive statements about how their new relationships don’t have this particular strain. I can see it both ways—everyone deserves to feel special attention from their spouse, but this requires a heathy balance that the Hatmakers clearly have. Undivided love and attention from a working mom of 5 who is the family’s main bread winner—sure, she needs to make that time, but how is that even defined? Was she giving of herself and it just wasn’t enough for Brandon? And giving what? Is attention an innuendo for sex? I’d be more sympathetic toward Brandon if his current relationship and SM boasting didn’t point to all things needing to be all about Brandon and hyper sexual all of the time. Ain’t no working mom of 5 have time to stroke that kind of ego.

Truth! The neediness of an enneagram 2 (Brandon) is not for the faint of heart. Their internal motivation is to be loved. If they don’t feel loved and appreciated for their acts of service they become self righteously angry and pouty. For a working woman of multiple kids it could get exhausting. I’m sure Jen has felt relieved in some ways to not have to constantly make sure she’s meeting Brandon’s quota for affection both physical and verbal.

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It seems unfair for Brandon to brag about how loved he feels by Tina when they are empty nesters with tons of time and funds to bask in their love. They are both still high on new love hormones and other than Jen, the passive aggressive ex, they aren’t having to dodge a lot of opposition. Of course Tina is giving him more attention, she works a predictable schedule and then the rest of her time is his. The constant display of their sexiness together is wearying.

Poor Jen is over there trying to whip up some chemistry with Tyler who lives far away and isn’t nearly as into her as she is into him. Hurts to watch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Brandon worshiped at the altar of Jen himself. I don’t think he was threatened by her bright shining success, but needed to know he was still special to her even if 500,000+ followers liked her posts everyday.
He didn’t need the fame or adulation of the masses, he craved Jen’s undivided love and attention. The one thing he could almost never get. That’s why he made the comment how Tina makes him feel like he’s the only guy in the room even when there is a crowd. He felt invisible when Jen was in show mode.
He became bitter and resentful as he realized he’d helped create a monster. The more her fan base grew the less she needed or valued him. Her love tank was getting filled by her fans while his was steadily depleted.

This seems kinda legit at first. Until you realize that its just the same story most working women get fed for why their marriages fail. It’s bs on some level that men get to blame women for not getting their undivided love and attention…very few wives in the same boat get to say that of their career husbands. Women have success and a life outside of their kids and husband does not excuse cheating, alcoholism and gambling the family money away, as mentioned earlier on here. Sure, success like that outside the home isn’t for everyone and doesn’t work for everyone - and I’m sure it’s part of the story - but no decent man responds to that by doing what Brandon did. Please stop with the insinuation that a woman can be responsible for driving a man to behave like him. A woman can definitely fail to provide the kind of love an attention a husband needs and a marriage can struggle, but a man is 100% solely responsible for choosing to cheat and blow up his family finances by playing king of the casino.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brandon worshiped at the altar of Jen himself. I don’t think he was threatened by her bright shining success, but needed to know he was still special to her even if 500,000+ followers liked her posts everyday.
He didn’t need the fame or adulation of the masses, he craved Jen’s undivided love and attention. The one thing he could almost never get. That’s why he made the comment how Tina makes him feel like he’s the only guy in the room even when there is a crowd. He felt invisible when Jen was in show mode.
He became bitter and resentful as he realized he’d helped create a monster. The more her fan base grew the less she needed or valued him. Her love tank was getting filled by her fans while his was steadily depleted.

This seems kinda legit at first. Until you realize that its just the same story most working women get fed for why their marriages fail. It’s bs on some level that men get to blame women for not getting their undivided love and attention…very few wives in the same boat get to say that of their career husbands. Women have success and a life outside of their kids and husband does not excuse cheating, alcoholism and gambling the family money away, as mentioned earlier on here. Sure, success like that outside the home isn’t for everyone and doesn’t work for everyone - and I’m sure it’s part of the story - but no decent man responds to that by doing what Brandon did. Please stop with the insinuation that a woman can be responsible for driving a man to behave like him. A woman can definitely fail to provide the kind of love an attention a husband needs and a marriage can struggle, but a man is 100% solely responsible for choosing to cheat and blow up his family finances by playing king of the casino.

I think this is the most balanced analysis yet!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brandon worshiped at the altar of Jen himself. I don’t think he was threatened by her bright shining success, but needed to know he was still special to her even if 500,000+ followers liked her posts everyday.
He didn’t need the fame or adulation of the masses, he craved Jen’s undivided love and attention. The one thing he could almost never get. That’s why he made the comment how Tina makes him feel like he’s the only guy in the room even when there is a crowd. He felt invisible when Jen was in show mode.
He became bitter and resentful as he realized he’d helped create a monster. The more her fan base grew the less she needed or valued him. Her love tank was getting filled by her fans while his was steadily depleted.

This seems kinda legit at first. Until you realize that its just the same story most working women get fed for why their marriages fail. It’s bs on some level that men get to blame women for not getting their undivided love and attention…very few wives in the same boat get to say that of their career husbands. Women have success and a life outside of their kids and husband does not excuse cheating, alcoholism and gambling the family money away, as mentioned earlier on here. Sure, success like that outside the home isn’t for everyone and doesn’t work for everyone - and I’m sure it’s part of the story - but no decent man responds to that by doing what Brandon did. Please stop with the insinuation that a woman can be responsible for driving a man to behave like him. A woman can definitely fail to provide the kind of love an attention a husband needs and a marriage can struggle, but a man is 100% solely responsible for choosing to cheat and blow up his family finances by playing king of the casino.

Say it louder for the folks in the cheap seats! There are so many comments blaming Jen for Brandon’s actions. If Jen did half of what Brandon did, no one would show her sympathy and blame Brandon for her choices. This sort of treatment is purely reserved for men. I just can’t wrap my brain around women who buy into this. I also wonder how it impacts their sense of security and behavior in their own relationships.

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He didn’t need the fame or adulation of the masses, he craved Jen’s undivided love and attention. The one thing he could almost never get. That’s why he made the comment how Tina makes him feel like he’s the only guy in the room even when there is a crowd. He felt invisible when Jen was in show mode.
He became bitter and resentful as he realized he’d helped create a monster. The more her fan base grew the less she needed or valued him. Her love tank was getting filled by her fans while his was steadily depleted

And see how Jen, on Glennon's podcast, shared that her internet friends Kristin and Jamie pointed out that she had to "be the spotlight" for Brandon, which only feeds her delusion that she was giving all to the marriage when clearly she had her own life, too.

I feel bad for any ex whose former spouse gushes about FINALLY finding the love they were craving. Glennon did it big time to Craig, and now Brandon (and Jen to a lesser extent) is doing it. Terrible when kids are involved. So tactless.

Like a PP mentioned, Jen is trying to whip up some kind of relationship enthusiasm with Tyler and it's not really gaining traction. I feel like he likes being a single man in a community of singles. His exaggerated thrown back open mouthed laughter at her big LC gathering in her backyard is a tell. He is trying to prove so hard that he is happy to be there. But is he?