Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder the real reason why Jen didn’t join her internet besties on their annual couples trip. Clearly Jen can afford the time and expense based on her many trips this year. Is it because they called out her unhealthy dynamics with Brandon when they all got together as couples a couple years ago? Like they may spot her weirdness with Tyler? Or perhaps Tyler had no interest to hang out with Jen’s monochromatic crew and their men in a very non diverse location? Based on his comments about his time in north Minnesota he’s pays close attention to racial diversity when traveling.

I wonder this too. At first I thought it was because she just got home from Me Camp but then today she's reposting stories that have her in New York City last week with Tyler. So it wasn't that she couldn't leave again. Seems strange she didn't want to bring her new man to meet her friends. And yeah that friend group is lacking diversity but so is every other thing Jen has invited Tyler to, like her Legacy dinner or that dinner in Minnesota she hosted. All white people but Tyler.

It's weird that she's also posting herself in a salon chair and posted herself at her house a couple days ago opening the book but then these other people are posting about her being in New York at the same time with her roots already done. Is she usually posting stuff way after the fact?

Agree, really weird!
what's the reasoning for delay posting?
All out of order?

And Tyler has still yet to post anything about Jen on his page?

The weirdest of all

[Anonymous]

Tyler posted a post of the double date he and Jen did on Glennon’s podcast. He’s claiming her as his girlfriend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tyler posted a post of the double date he and Jen did on Glennon’s podcast. He’s claiming her as his girlfriend.

It's about time!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Branson posts pictures of his assault rifle and his big raised diesel truck and he’s 50. Perhaps rural Texas puts a wee bit more value on guns, trucks and big fake boobs/bleached blondes than other areas? Rural Midwest men like those things but maybe not quite to the same extent.

Showed their IG to my husband who grew up in the rural Pacific northwest who is now an exec in corporate America in wealthy suburbia and he sees the appeal of Brandon’s choices. Kind of horrified me but he thinks a hot blonde who adores Brandon and likes to live like him is a good swap for a narcissistic wife. Ugh. None of the trucks, guns, boats, motorcycles club, booze, bars, drinking buddy girlfriend posts made him cringe. Guess you can take the boy out of the country but not the country out of the boy. Perhaps this was the problem for Brandon, he wasn’t really wanting to be a social justice warrior on a global stage hanging with big name influencers. That’s was Jen’s dream.
Heck I wonder if Brandon wanted to be a pastor, author, social media influencer at all? What were the real dreams of his heart before he met Jen? With her high achiever operating did she pull him along into those high visibility choices? Not that he didn’t enjoy the perks but even in their reality show he seemed less engaged.

I could be wrong, but wasn't Brandon a pastor pretty much from the start? I suppose Jen could have influenced his choices while they were still in college, but that seems unlikely, especially since they met at a pretty conservative Baptist college (which gave them both the Alumni Profiles in Excellence award in 2013). It seems more like they graduated, she taught for a bit, he was on staff/pastor at a large church. Jen started leading women's Bible studies, discovered she had a flair for teaching and leveraged her connections to start writing her Modern Girls Bible Study books. As her star began rising I think Brandon just started getting pulled along for the ride.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Branson posts pictures of his assault rifle and his big raised diesel truck and he’s 50. Perhaps rural Texas puts a wee bit more value on guns, trucks and big fake boobs/bleached blondes than other areas? Rural Midwest men like those things but maybe not quite to the same extent.

Showed their IG to my husband who grew up in the rural Pacific northwest who is now an exec in corporate America in wealthy suburbia and he sees the appeal of Brandon’s choices. Kind of horrified me but he thinks a hot blonde who adores Brandon and likes to live like him is a good swap for a narcissistic wife. Ugh. None of the trucks, guns, boats, motorcycles club, booze, bars, drinking buddy girlfriend posts made him cringe. Guess you can take the boy out of the country but not the country out of the boy. Perhaps this was the problem for Brandon, he wasn’t really wanting to be a social justice warrior on a global stage hanging with big name influencers. That’s was Jen’s dream.
Heck I wonder if Brandon wanted to be a pastor, author, social media influencer at all? What were the real dreams of his heart before he met Jen? With her high achiever operating did she pull him along into those high visibility choices? Not that he didn’t enjoy the perks but even in their reality show he seemed less engaged.

I could be wrong, but wasn't Brandon a pastor pretty much from the start? I suppose Jen could have influenced his choices while they were still in college, but that seems unlikely, especially since they met at a pretty conservative Baptist college (which gave them both the Alumni Profiles in Excellence award in 2013). It seems more like they graduated, she taught for a bit, he was on staff/pastor at a large church. Jen started leading women's Bible studies, discovered she had a flair for teaching and leveraged her connections to start writing her Modern Girls Bible Study books. As her star began rising I think Brandon just started getting pulled along for the ride.

Brandon didn’t get pulled along for a ride. He was a willing participant—a follower. He’s a user and a follower. He changes his style and persona more than an awkward middle schooler trying to find their way. He’s not a sympathetic character. He’s a wanna be biker dud…for now. He’ll shift again, as soon as it suited him.

[Anonymous]

*suites him, dang autocorrect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Branson posts pictures of his assault rifle and his big raised diesel truck and he’s 50. Perhaps rural Texas puts a wee bit more value on guns, trucks and big fake boobs/bleached blondes than other areas? Rural Midwest men like those things but maybe not quite to the same extent.

Showed their IG to my husband who grew up in the rural Pacific northwest who is now an exec in corporate America in wealthy suburbia and he sees the appeal of Brandon’s choices. Kind of horrified me but he thinks a hot blonde who adores Brandon and likes to live like him is a good swap for a narcissistic wife. Ugh. None of the trucks, guns, boats, motorcycles club, booze, bars, drinking buddy girlfriend posts made him cringe. Guess you can take the boy out of the country but not the country out of the boy. Perhaps this was the problem for Brandon, he wasn’t really wanting to be a social justice warrior on a global stage hanging with big name influencers. That’s was Jen’s dream.
Heck I wonder if Brandon wanted to be a pastor, author, social media influencer at all? What were the real dreams of his heart before he met Jen? With her high achiever operating did she pull him along into those high visibility choices? Not that he didn’t enjoy the perks but even in their reality show he seemed less engaged.

I could be wrong, but wasn't Brandon a pastor pretty much from the start? I suppose Jen could have influenced his choices while they were still in college, but that seems unlikely, especially since they met at a pretty conservative Baptist college (which gave them both the Alumni Profiles in Excellence award in 2013). It seems more like they graduated, she taught for a bit, he was on staff/pastor at a large church. Jen started leading women's Bible studies, discovered she had a flair for teaching and leveraged her connections to start writing her Modern Girls Bible Study books. As her star began rising I think Brandon just started getting pulled along for the ride.

Brandon didn’t get pulled along for a ride. He was a willing participant—a follower. He’s a user and a follower. He changes his style and persona more than an awkward middle schooler trying to find their way. He’s not a sympathetic character. He’s a wanna be biker dud…for now. He’ll shift again, as soon as it suited him.

Agree ⬆️ Both of them looking for a payday. Being a teacher, generally, is not a career from which one becomes rich. Likewise, youth pastor gigs don’t pay that well either. They sought ways to get ahead - and that path was through scaling their operation through books, speaking engagements, skimming off of a non-profit that is truly a scam in my opinion, getting on TV. All of it was to get ahead. Hey, I’m all for pursuing the American Dream… just don’t piss down my leg and tell me it’s raining. I was born at night…. But not last night. It was pretty easy to see through if you looked hard enough.

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I've never really followed JH, but I just have to say as someone who grew up in the Northeast, this whole Texas look just cracks me up. It's funny to me that Brandon thinks he looks bad*ss. But you know, to each their own. Lots of things don't translate across cultures.

[Anonymous]

What happened to the church that Jen and Brandon started in Austin? Is it still there? Do they or her parents still attend? Who is the pastor now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Branson posts pictures of his assault rifle and his big raised diesel truck and he’s 50. Perhaps rural Texas puts a wee bit more value on guns, trucks and big fake boobs/bleached blondes than other areas? Rural Midwest men like those things but maybe not quite to the same extent.

Showed their IG to my husband who grew up in the rural Pacific northwest who is now an exec in corporate America in wealthy suburbia and he sees the appeal of Brandon’s choices. Kind of horrified me but he thinks a hot blonde who adores Brandon and likes to live like him is a good swap for a narcissistic wife. Ugh. None of the trucks, guns, boats, motorcycles club, booze, bars, drinking buddy girlfriend posts made him cringe. Guess you can take the boy out of the country but not the country out of the boy. Perhaps this was the problem for Brandon, he wasn’t really wanting to be a social justice warrior on a global stage hanging with big name influencers. That’s was Jen’s dream.
Heck I wonder if Brandon wanted to be a pastor, author, social media influencer at all? What were the real dreams of his heart before he met Jen? With her high achiever operating did she pull him along into those high visibility choices? Not that he didn’t enjoy the perks but even in their reality show he seemed less engaged.

I could be wrong, but wasn't Brandon a pastor pretty much from the start? I suppose Jen could have influenced his choices while they were still in college, but that seems unlikely, especially since they met at a pretty conservative Baptist college (which gave them both the Alumni Profiles in Excellence award in 2013). It seems more like they graduated, she taught for a bit, he was on staff/pastor at a large church. Jen started leading women's Bible studies, discovered she had a flair for teaching and leveraged her connections to start writing her Modern Girls Bible Study books. As her star began rising I think Brandon just started getting pulled along for the ride.

Brandon didn’t get pulled along for a ride. He was a willing participant—a follower. He’s a user and a follower. He changes his style and persona more than an awkward middle schooler trying to find their way. He’s not a sympathetic character. He’s a wanna be biker dud…for now. He’ll shift again, as soon as it suited him.

I guess I didn't really mean 'pulled along' in the terms of him being an innocent bystander, but more in terms of him hitching his wagon to her star. Yes, he had his own thing, a few books, probably some speaking, then starting ANC, but he was primarily leveraging her fame and her name as the draw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What happened to the church that Jen and Brandon started in Austin? Is it still there? Do they or her parents still attend? Who is the pastor now?

It’s still there. It’s very small. Maybe a few dozen in person per service.

The vast majority of the old ANC guard are long gone.

I mean the Hatmakers don’t even go there anymore.

It’s like a “post church”, very progressive, very on brand social justice, always insisting they’re not afraid to tackle the Big Questions.

It’s exhausting, like a freshman philosophy class, and people don’t tend to stick around for this sort of stuff.
Just more average white men spouting off their ever evolving thoughts on the world. Eye roll city.

Tray Pruet is still there for some reason and the main teaching guy the Hatmakers brought in who wears a hat and is unbearably smarmy in the pulpit.

They now meet in an old downtown Methodist church.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What happened to the church that Jen and Brandon started in Austin? Is it still there? Do they or her parents still attend? Who is the pastor now?

It’s still there. It’s very small. Maybe a few dozen in person per service.

The vast majority of the old ANC guard are long gone.

I mean the Hatmakers don’t even go there anymore.

It’s like a “post church”, very progressive, very on brand social justice, always insisting they’re not afraid to tackle the Big Questions.

It’s exhausting, like a freshman philosophy class, and people don’t tend to stick around for this sort of stuff.
Just more average white men spouting off their ever evolving thoughts on the world. Eye roll city.

Tray Pruet is still there for some reason and the main teaching guy the Hatmakers brought in who wears a hat and is unbearably smarmy in the pulpit.

I wonder why Tray is still there too. I mean his wife Jenny is super close to Jen, along with another woman, Shonna. Hell, they all went on trips together. Cuba, Europe (I think), all over. Jen doesn’t go to ANC and I figured Ol Tray and Jenny would have rolled it up too.

They now meet in an old downtown Methodist church.

[Anonymous]

Did the Hatmakers choose the current pastor? If so that speaks volumes about their lack of judgement. That hip hat pastor couldn’t even do a video with Tray after the Uvalde shooting without multiple references about not wanting to center the experience on himself. In his extreme need to appear woke he seemed out of sync with any real emotional response or support. It’s so past pretentious it like he’s role playing dress up as a pastor with no real spiritual understanding or authority. I actually think Brandon and Jen had both at one time. Can’t say they do these days as they’ve been working so hard to distance themselves from their roots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did the Hatmakers choose the current pastor? If so that speaks volumes about their lack of judgement. That hip hat pastor couldn’t even do a video with Tray after the Uvalde shooting without multiple references about not wanting to center the experience on himself. In his extreme need to appear woke he seemed out of sync with any real emotional response or support. It’s so past pretentious it like he’s role playing dress up as a pastor with no real spiritual understanding or authority. I actually think Brandon and Jen had both at one time. Can’t say they do these days as they’ve been working so hard to distance themselves from their roots.

I’m pretty sure the Hatmakers handpicked him… from Joel Osteen’s church. YIKES.
Also, someone on Reddit posted a screenshot of ANC’s livestream service around Easter time (maybe it was Easter Sunday?). Jen is sitting in the front row, next to the Pruets, and with her arm around Dave Hollis.

[Anonymous]

Well looks from his insta like Brandon has been reading here, lol, and is trying to make his job and F250 look as inflated as he thinks it is after the criticism here. Nice try. Dude should just put his head down and be grateful for being handed and nice job from someone and stop trying to look more important than you are. No shame in no fame and a ‘regular guy’ job.