Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Can everyone supporting Kavanaugh tell us why you are overlooking his obvious lies under oath? Putting all the allegations aside and just looking at the yearbook definitions he gave and is clearly lying about - how do you rationalize that? I really want to hear from someone.

This has been done over and over again. Go back and look through the thread.

Where? Where has this been adequately explained? It's been glossed over. But no, haven't seen anyone rationalize it.

Short answer... because what YOU are calling lies, are not lies. At all. It’s wishful thinking on your part because we know that you see your efforts falling apart and so you are diverting your efforts to come up with something you think will derail this nominee.

https://www.newsweek.com/kavanaugh-said-he-had-no-connections-yale-he-was-legacy-student-1145286
Kavanaugh lied about the Yale legacy, he liked about the drinking age. Those two are provable, so far.

The Yale legacy thing has been totally debunked. Question: Did he say anything in his testimony or in answering questions that he was not a legacy student?
The drinking age.... go back and read his testimony. He did not lie.

??. He clearly said he had “no connections.” Yet he had a connection— perhaps not a strong one, but significantly more than people who truly have no connection.

Again, a grandfather undergrad connection would not have been a connection for YLS. Unless GF was a big donor.

Yes, it is a connection. You can keep saying that it is not, Mr. Interviewer, but that doesn’t make it so.

I went to an HYP as an undein the 80s. I had a parent who went to a graduate school there. I would reserve the term “legacy” for people whose parents were also undergrads. But I would never insistently shout that I had “no connection.”

I didn’t go to Yale, have no connections there and no nothing about the ability to get in.
But, the fact that you all are arguing over whether being a “legacy” means he has “no connections with” YLS tells me that HE didn’t consider it a “connection” worth discussing since this fact is so easily checked.
To argue this as a lie is just petty and will not go anywhere. In fact, it’s ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:And for those saying, she was drinking, she may not remember accurately so pooooooooooor brett, he says he is innocent, we should believe him.

No. She knew him. She had been dating his friend. She knew him, she knew it was him.

The insinuation that she put herself at risk therefore she shouldn't expect to be believed, or it was just attempted rape, therefore not that bad - that EXACTLY is why judges who rule that way are getting thrown off the bench.

That time in our history is over and those judges who rule that way are out.

Too bad for BK that he wasn't born decades before so he could have made it on the court.

It seems that in your world view only women are to be believed, and only men need to be accountable for their drinking and resulting behaviors. I sincerely hope that's not what you're thinking.

This was a job interview. She is a credible witness. There were doubts about his character and he confirmed those and raised new doubts in his tantrum. Bad strategy.
He is done.

Nope. He will be confirmed. My prediction is 53-47. It should be 100-0.

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Anonymous wrote:Can everyone supporting Kavanaugh tell us why you are overlooking his obvious lies under oath? Putting all the allegations aside and just looking at the yearbook definitions he gave and is clearly lying about - how do you rationalize that? I really want to hear from someone.

This has been done over and over again. Go back and look through the thread.

Where? Where has this been adequately explained? It's been glossed over. But no, haven't seen anyone rationalize it.

Short answer... because what YOU are calling lies, are not lies. At all. It’s wishful thinking on your part because we know that you see your efforts falling apart and so you are diverting your efforts to come up with something you think will derail this nominee.

https://www.newsweek.com/kavanaugh-said-he-had-no-connections-yale-he-was-legacy-student-1145286
Kavanaugh lied about the Yale legacy, he liked about the drinking age. Those two are provable, so far.

The Yale legacy thing has been totally debunked. Question: Did he say anything in his testimony or in answering questions that he was not a legacy student?
The drinking age.... go back and read his testimony. He did not lie.

??. He clearly said he had “no connections.” Yet he had a connection— perhaps not a strong one, but significantly more than people who truly have no connection.

Again, a grandfather undergrad connection would not have been a connection for YLS. Unless GF was a big donor.

Yes, it is a connection. You can keep saying that it is not, Mr. Interviewer, but that doesn’t make it so.

I went to an HYP as an undein the 80s. I had a parent who went to a graduate school there. I would reserve the term “legacy” for people whose parents were also undergrads. But I would never insistently shout that I had “no connection.”

I didn’t go to Yale, have no connections there and no nothing about the ability to get in.
But, the fact that you all are arguing over whether being a “legacy” means he has “no connections with” YLS tells me that HE didn’t consider it a “connection” worth discussing since this fact is so easily checked.
To argue this as a lie is just petty and will not go anywhere. In fact, it’s ridiculous.

But that’s the whole point: in Kavanaugh’s mind, he is an angel of virtue. Reality and his entitled self-perception don’t align.

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Anonymous wrote:And for those saying, she was drinking, she may not remember accurately so pooooooooooor brett, he says he is innocent, we should believe him.

No. She knew him. She had been dating his friend. She knew him, she knew it was him.

The insinuation that she put herself at risk therefore she shouldn't expect to be believed, or it was just attempted rape, therefore not that bad - that EXACTLY is why judges who rule that way are getting thrown off the bench.

That time in our history is over and those judges who rule that way are out.

Too bad for BK that he wasn't born decades before so he could have made it on the court.

It seems that in your world view only women are to be believed, and only men need to be accountable for their drinking and resulting behaviors. I sincerely hope that's not what you're thinking.

This was a job interview. She is a credible witness. There were doubts about his character and he confirmed those and raised new doubts in his tantrum. Bad strategy.
He is done.

I'll agree that she shared her story in a very touching, emotional way. Personally, I will never take the view that women are always right and men always wrong. I want the truth. The memories of men AND women who have been drinking are unreliable.

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Anonymous wrote:Can everyone supporting Kavanaugh tell us why you are overlooking his obvious lies under oath? Putting all the allegations aside and just looking at the yearbook definitions he gave and is clearly lying about - how do you rationalize that? I really want to hear from someone.

This has been done over and over again. Go back and look through the thread.

Where? Where has this been adequately explained? It's been glossed over. But no, haven't seen anyone rationalize it.

Short answer... because what YOU are calling lies, are not lies. At all. It’s wishful thinking on your part because we know that you see your efforts falling apart and so you are diverting your efforts to come up with something you think will derail this nominee.

https://www.newsweek.com/kavanaugh-said-he-had-no-connections-yale-he-was-legacy-student-1145286
Kavanaugh lied about the Yale legacy, he liked about the drinking age. Those two are provable, so far.

The Yale legacy thing has been totally debunked. Question: Did he say anything in his testimony or in answering questions that he was not a legacy student?
The drinking age.... go back and read his testimony. He did not lie.

Kavanaugh said he had no connections.

The drinking age thing: definite lie.
http://time.com/5409564/brett-kavanaugh-drinking-age-maryland/

But I'm all for him being confirmed, just like you want. Then we'll see what happens. I've known guys like him, they'll find a way to implode one way or another, once they achieve their objective.

His inability to control himself and his entitlement and rage make him very similar to the psychopaths who participate in employee shootings or take their family hostage. He was scary.
He is one of those people where they have this veneer of civility but when something doesn't go their way they are frightening.

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Anonymous wrote:Can everyone supporting Kavanaugh tell us why you are overlooking his obvious lies under oath? Putting all the allegations aside and just looking at the yearbook definitions he gave and is clearly lying about - how do you rationalize that? I really want to hear from someone.

This has been done over and over again. Go back and look through the thread.

Where? Where has this been adequately explained? It's been glossed over. But no, haven't seen anyone rationalize it.

Short answer... because what YOU are calling lies, are not lies. At all. It’s wishful thinking on your part because we know that you see your efforts falling apart and so you are diverting your efforts to come up with something you think will derail this nominee.

https://www.newsweek.com/kavanaugh-said-he-had-no-connections-yale-he-was-legacy-student-1145286
Kavanaugh lied about the Yale legacy, he liked about the drinking age. Those two are provable, so far.

The Yale legacy thing has been totally debunked. Question: Did he say anything in his testimony or in answering questions that he was not a legacy student?
The drinking age.... go back and read his testimony. He did not lie.

??. He clearly said he had “no connections.” Yet he had a connection— perhaps not a strong one, but significantly more than people who truly have no connection.

Again, a grandfather undergrad connection would not have been a connection for YLS. Unless GF was a big donor.

Obviously the grandfather was a huge boost for Yale undergrad and being at Yale undergrad is a huge boost for Yale Law. So he had connections and to say otherwise is to me a fabrication.

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Anonymous wrote:And for those saying, she was drinking, she may not remember accurately so pooooooooooor brett, he says he is innocent, we should believe him.

No. She knew him. She had been dating his friend. She knew him, she knew it was him.

The insinuation that she put herself at risk therefore she shouldn't expect to be believed, or it was just attempted rape, therefore not that bad - that EXACTLY is why judges who rule that way are getting thrown off the bench.

That time in our history is over and those judges who rule that way are out.

Too bad for BK that he wasn't born decades before so he could have made it on the court.

It seems that in your world view only women are to be believed, and only men need to be accountable for their drinking and resulting behaviors. I sincerely hope that's not what you're thinking.

This was a job interview. She is a credible witness. There were doubts about his character and he confirmed those and raised new doubts in his tantrum. Bad strategy.
He is done.

Nope. He will be confirmed. My prediction is 53-47. It should be 100-0.

You are smoking something if you think he belongs on the supreme court. He couldn't pass a job interview to sweep the steps.

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This is all so ridiculous. They should just pull his nomination. What a waste of our time and resources. Anybody hear of a horrible tsunami in Indonesia?? 800 + people dead.

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Anonymous wrote:And for those saying, she was drinking, she may not remember accurately so pooooooooooor brett, he says he is innocent, we should believe him.

No. She knew him. She had been dating his friend. She knew him, she knew it was him.

The insinuation that she put herself at risk therefore she shouldn't expect to be believed, or it was just attempted rape, therefore not that bad - that EXACTLY is why judges who rule that way are getting thrown off the bench.

That time in our history is over and those judges who rule that way are out.

Too bad for BK that he wasn't born decades before so he could have made it on the court.

It seems that in your world view only women are to be believed, and only men need to be accountable for their drinking and resulting behaviors. I sincerely hope that's not what you're thinking.

This was a job interview. She is a credible witness. There were doubts about his character and he confirmed those and raised new doubts in his tantrum. Bad strategy.
He is done.

Nope. He will be confirmed. My prediction is 53-47. It should be 100-0.

Agree!

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Anonymous wrote:"However, as my client has already made clear, she does not know Judge Kavanaugh and has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford," the letter from Howard Walsh, Keyser's attorney, said. It continued that Keyser "does not refute Dr. Ford's account, and she has already told the press that she believes Dr. Ford's account."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/christine-blasey-ford-friend-leland-keyser-clarifies-statement-about-alleged-assault-by-brett-kavanaugh/


Cliffs of insanity party of millions...

Not a single Ford supporter will explain this.

It’s been explained so many times but I’ll do it again: that gathering was a non-event for Keyser so nobody expects her to remember. They went to the pool almost every day, it sounds like small gatherings after being at the pool were a regular occurrence, and Ford didn’t tell her about the assault. Can you recall every gathering big or small that you went to as a freshman in college and who was there? I certainly cannot, I pretty much just remember events, etc. with personal significance, even then I can’t remember much detail. Even though she doesn’t remember anything she trusts her friend and believes her.

And, I will say it again.... Her own friend has said she does not know Kavanaugh. How do you reconcile this..... Ford said after her alleged assault, she went downstairs, left the house where her friend was and the three boys were downstairs with her. How could this be if her friend says she doesn’t know Kavanaugh?

Easy. I hung out with many people over the years briefly and I have no recollection of them today.

Let’s consider the situation. 4 boys. 2 girls. One girl claims she was sexually assaulted while 2 boys and another girls were downstairs. The two boys who allegedly assaulted her go downstairs and join the other 2 boys and 1 girl. That is 4 boys and 1 girl downstairs.
Ford claims she left at that point. Seemingly, leaving her friend with these other 4 boys. Several questions come to mind....
1. Evidently, Ford was not at all considered about the safety of her friend with the 4 boys, despite the fact that she was allegedly assaulted. You don’t find that strange? You don’t find it odd that she never asked her friend what happened after she left?
2. Leland was allegedly in the room with 4 boys, one of which was allegedly Kavanaugh, yet she claims not to know him. Seriously? A small gathering such as this and she still claims she doesn’t know him?
3. Ford leaves, not knowing how she got home. Does her friend not wonder why she left? Wouldn’t a friend follow up and ask her about it?

It makes no sense......

I agree. Also, she is sure she drank only one beer. What does she remember of this? Where did she drink it? Was she talking with the orhers? How can she remember the number of beers but nithing else about what was going on while she drank it?

If we look at her yearbook, you'll see how none of those party girls had only one beer.

They also are not alleged to have assaulted anyone.

See the difference?

No, but she is accusing him of assault. With all the drinking depicted in her yearbooks, how do we know SHE was not drunk? Because she said she wasn’t? Maybe that is why she doesn’t remember how she got home.

She clearly remembers only one beer. We are to take her word.

Why?

Crickets

I would imagine after she was assaulted one of the thoughts that ran through her mind over and over was, how did this happen to me? Part of that was probably I just had one beer. Was it my fault? I only had one beer. Should I tell my parents? I had a beer, my parents would kill me. So many reasons she would remember this detail.

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Anonymous wrote:"However, as my client has already made clear, she does not know Judge Kavanaugh and has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford," the letter from Howard Walsh, Keyser's attorney, said. It continued that Keyser "does not refute Dr. Ford's account, and she has already told the press that she believes Dr. Ford's account."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/christine-blasey-ford-friend-leland-keyser-clarifies-statement-about-alleged-assault-by-brett-kavanaugh/


Cliffs of insanity party of millions...

Not a single Ford supporter will explain this.

It’s been explained so many times but I’ll do it again: that gathering was a non-event for Keyser so nobody expects her to remember. They went to the pool almost every day, it sounds like small gatherings after being at the pool were a regular occurrence, and Ford didn’t tell her about the assault. Can you recall every gathering big or small that you went to as a freshman in college and who was there? I certainly cannot, I pretty much just remember events, etc. with personal significance, even then I can’t remember much detail. Even though she doesn’t remember anything she trusts her friend and believes her.

And, I will say it again.... Her own friend has said she does not know Kavanaugh. How do you reconcile this..... Ford said after her alleged assault, she went downstairs, left the house where her friend was and the three boys were downstairs with her. How could this be if her friend says she doesn’t know Kavanaugh?

Easy. I hung out with many people over the years briefly and I have no recollection of them today.

Let’s consider the situation. 4 boys. 2 girls. One girl claims she was sexually assaulted while 2 boys and another girls were downstairs. The two boys who allegedly assaulted her go downstairs and join the other 2 boys and 1 girl. That is 4 boys and 1 girl downstairs.
Ford claims she left at that point. Seemingly, leaving her friend with these other 4 boys. Several questions come to mind....
1. Evidently, Ford was not at all considered about the safety of her friend with the 4 boys, despite the fact that she was allegedly assaulted. You don’t find that strange? You don’t find it odd that she never asked her friend what happened after she left?
2. Leland was allegedly in the room with 4 boys, one of which was allegedly Kavanaugh, yet she claims not to know him. Seriously? A small gathering such as this and she still claims she doesn’t know him?
3. Ford leaves, not knowing how she got home. Does her friend not wonder why she left? Wouldn’t a friend follow up and ask her about it?

It makes no sense......

I agree. Also, she is sure she drank only one beer. What does she remember of this? Where did she drink it? Was she talking with the orhers? How can she remember the number of beers but nithing else about what was going on while she drank it?

If we look at her yearbook, you'll see how none of those party girls had only one beer.

They also are not alleged to have assaulted anyone.

See the difference?

No, but she is accusing him of assault. With all the drinking depicted in her yearbooks, how do we know SHE was not drunk? Because she said she wasn’t? Maybe that is why she doesn’t remember how she got home.

She clearly remembers only one beer. We are to take her word.

Why?

Crickets

I would imagine after she was assaulted one of the thoughts that ran through her mind over and over was, how did this happen to me? Part of that was probably I just had one beer. Was it my fault? I only had one beer. Should I tell my parents? I had a beer, my parents would kill me. So many reasons she would remember this detail.

Kavanaugh on the hand says he only drank on the weekends. His own freaking calendar shows him going to parties on weekdays too! But sure, let's believe him.

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Anonymous wrote:How dare you make women be responsible for their behavior!!!

This thread is about men being responsible for their actions. Brett Kavanaugh is a coward and a liar who feels entitled to a Supreme Court seat.

Your opinion

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Anonymous wrote:For Flake, the upside of a no vote is a long career at msnbc.maybe.

Yup. Just watch.

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Anonymous wrote:"However, as my client has already made clear, she does not know Judge Kavanaugh and has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford," the letter from Howard Walsh, Keyser's attorney, said. It continued that Keyser "does not refute Dr. Ford's account, and she has already told the press that she believes Dr. Ford's account."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/christine-blasey-ford-friend-leland-keyser-clarifies-statement-about-alleged-assault-by-brett-kavanaugh/


Cliffs of insanity party of millions...

Not a single Ford supporter will explain this.

It’s been explained so many times but I’ll do it again: that gathering was a non-event for Keyser so nobody expects her to remember. They went to the pool almost every day, it sounds like small gatherings after being at the pool were a regular occurrence, and Ford didn’t tell her about the assault. Can you recall every gathering big or small that you went to as a freshman in college and who was there? I certainly cannot, I pretty much just remember events, etc. with personal significance, even then I can’t remember much detail. Even though she doesn’t remember anything she trusts her friend and believes her.

And, I will say it again.... Her own friend has said she does not know Kavanaugh. How do you reconcile this..... Ford said after her alleged assault, she went downstairs, left the house where her friend was and the three boys were downstairs with her. How could this be if her friend says she doesn’t know Kavanaugh?

Easy. I hung out with many people over the years briefly and I have no recollection of them today.

Let’s consider the situation. 4 boys. 2 girls. One girl claims she was sexually assaulted while 2 boys and another girls were downstairs. The two boys who allegedly assaulted her go downstairs and join the other 2 boys and 1 girl. That is 4 boys and 1 girl downstairs.
Ford claims she left at that point. Seemingly, leaving her friend with these other 4 boys. Several questions come to mind....
1. Evidently, Ford was not at all considered about the safety of her friend with the 4 boys, despite the fact that she was allegedly assaulted. You don’t find that strange? You don’t find it odd that she never asked her friend what happened after she left?
2. Leland was allegedly in the room with 4 boys, one of which was allegedly Kavanaugh, yet she claims not to know him. Seriously? A small gathering such as this and she still claims she doesn’t know him?
3. Ford leaves, not knowing how she got home. Does her friend not wonder why she left? Wouldn’t a friend follow up and ask her about it?

It makes no sense......

I agree. Also, she is sure she drank only one beer. What does she remember of this? Where did she drink it? Was she talking with the orhers? How can she remember the number of beers but nithing else about what was going on while she drank it?

If we look at her yearbook, you'll see how none of those party girls had only one beer.

They also are not alleged to have assaulted anyone.

See the difference?

No, but she is accusing him of assault. With all the drinking depicted in her yearbooks, how do we know SHE was not drunk? Because she said she wasn’t? Maybe that is why she doesn’t remember how she got home.

She clearly remembers only one beer. We are to take her word.

Why?

Crickets

I would imagine after she was assaulted one of the thoughts that ran through her mind over and over was, how did this happen to me? Part of that was probably I just had one beer. Was it my fault? I only had one beer. Should I tell my parents? I had a beer, my parents would kill me. So many reasons she would remember this detail.

Kavanaugh on the hand says he only drank on the weekends. His own freaking calendar shows him going to parties on weekdays too! But sure, let's believe him.

For goodness sake--it was summer. And July 1st was Thursday before a three day weekend.

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Anonymous wrote:How dare you make women be responsible for their behavior!!!

This thread is about men being responsible for their actions. Brett Kavanaugh is a coward and a liar who feels entitled to a Supreme Court seat.

So you say