Plane crash DCA?

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Anonymous wrote:I do think it’s odd all of the female pilot’s social media was completely scrubbed. But also her siblings and her parents.

You are personally snooping around random people's social media? Why?

Therre is no such thing as social media snooping. If one posts somethig that can be veiewed by strangers, it is de facto public.

Why are you doing it?

People who are saying that scrubbed social media to hide facts are stupid. The investigators will have access to ALL the facts. They will deep dive everything including all pilots histories.

There is no legitimate need to the public to see this and start ridiculous smearing and grasping at straws.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do think it’s odd all of the female pilot’s social media was completely scrubbed. But also her siblings and her parents.

You are personally snooping around random people's social media? Why?

Therre is no such thing as social media snooping. If one posts somethig that can be veiewed by strangers, it is de facto public.

Why are you doing it?

Why would someone want to know about the person that just killed a plane full of innocent kids? That is your question?

No one knows what happened until we get a full investigation. You are a jackass who wants to point fingers and jump to conclusions and go thru some dead stranger's socials with a magnifying glass trying to pin blame. Oh! She drank a margarita last year, she must have been drunk! Etc etc. What a ghoul you are.

We know she flew into a plane, killing the 64 aboard. We know she disobeyed ATC commands. We know she was flying outside the eatablished route and altitude for helicopters. We don't know why.

[Anonymous]

If she was such a perfect pilot let’s see her military records and all of her flight history. When was the last time she flew before the night in question? And who was the VIP they just dropped off?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If the female pilot was the evaluator of the pilot in training, she would be responsible.

There was a male pilot who was her evaluator.

Why is everyone focused on blaming her?

It was a male who put the training plans in place.

The female pilot was training.

Whenever American service members die in a training exercise, it's a tragedy.

How much money is spent on BS Virtual reality and augmented reality training and "serious" games with Meta and Microsoft and Bezos selling cheap plastic virtual reality glasses. Millions of dollars spent on BS "training" that isn't true simulation training. A true simulator is a BH helicopter simulator not a BS video game. That costs too much.

Think people.

Dig deeper.

The ONLY person who could have had DIRECT influence on the pitch, altitude, speed and direction of the BH those last 5-7 seconds was a Pilot in Command strapped in to all four directional controls.

It' was still a training exercise. She was in training. What events led to the pilot error? What male was the training evaluator? What male set the training plans in place? What male built the Blackhawk? What male contractor and software engineer designed the simulation training?

White male pilot evaluator must have been a DEI hire. Maybe his daddy was a retired military.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do think it’s odd all of the female pilot’s social media was completely scrubbed. But also her siblings and her parents.

My work has a no press rule but after the Mangione digital footprint free for all I took down all my posts, comments, reviews, and private photos on FB, instagram, newspapers, etc. My Reddit and Twitter and TikTok were viewing only.

People look up everything and it’s a clusterF.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the owner of this site deleting facts such as: Labouche was a WH aide under Biden?

WTF?

She wasn’t so that’s a false fact and should be deleted. She volunteered for ceremonial duty at the WH, likely because she thought that would be a cool experience. Like standing there in uniform when someone gets a medal. She wasn’t a WH policy aide or even a WH intern.

Liar. Laboch was a WH social aide. Easily verifiable- pick your own source.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/global-trends/blackhawk-crash-why-rebecca-lobachs-name-was-withheld-and-the-controversy-surrounding-it/articleshow/117862456.cms?from=mdr

A social aide is a ceremonial military duty where you assist guests at the White House.

Yes, this is not partisan. If I was a young 20 something I’d do it- sounds fun

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the female pilot was the evaluator of the pilot in training, she would be responsible.

There was a male pilot who was her evaluator.

Why is everyone focused on blaming her?

It was a male who put the training plans in place.

The female pilot was training.

Whenever American service members die in a training exercise, it's a tragedy.

How much money is spent on BS Virtual reality and augmented reality training and "serious" games with Meta and Microsoft and Bezos selling cheap plastic virtual reality glasses. Millions of dollars spent on BS "training" that isn't true simulation training. A true simulator is a BH helicopter simulator not a BS video game. That costs too much.

Think people.

Dig deeper.

The ONLY person who could have had DIRECT influence on the pitch, altitude, speed and direction of the BH those last 5-7 seconds was a Pilot in Command strapped in to all four directional controls.

It' was still a training exercise. She was in training. What events led to the pilot error? What male was the training evaluator? What male set the training plans in place? What male built the Blackhawk? What male contractor and software engineer designed the simulation training?

White male pilot evaluator must have been a DEI hire. Maybe his daddy was a retired military.

Yes, it is entirely reasonable to question the actions and abilities of the other two crew members.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the owner of this site deleting facts such as: Labouche was a WH aide under Biden?

WTF?

She wasn’t so that’s a false fact and should be deleted. She volunteered for ceremonial duty at the WH, likely because she thought that would be a cool experience. Like standing there in uniform when someone gets a medal. She wasn’t a WH policy aide or even a WH intern.

Liar. Laboch was a WH social aide. Easily verifiable- pick your own source.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/global-trends/blackhawk-crash-why-rebecca-lobachs-name-was-withheld-and-the-controversy-surrounding-it/articleshow/117862456.cms?from=mdr

To be clear, below is what a WH Social Aide does. They are military officers who volunteer to shepherd VIPs around during WH events. This is not a partisan position.

A White House Social Aide helps manage guests at formal events hosted by the President and First Lady. They also assist with diplomatic protocol and represent the President and First Lady.

Responsibilities
Greeting guests: Welcome guests at events like state dinners, luncheons, and teas
Escorting guests: Show guests to their seats and assist them with interactions with the President and First Lady
Announcing guests: Introduce guests to the President and First Lady
Answering questions: Share facts about the White House and its history to answer guests' questions
Identifying and resolving social issues: Intervene when needed, such as when a guest is being disruptive
Ensuring events run smoothly: Help ensure events are conducted efficiently and with dignity

Who they are
White House Social Aides are military officers who are chosen from the five branches of the military
They are volunteers who work an average of five to six events per month
They must pass many tests and have good military records

When they serve
White House Social Aides serve at state dinners, luncheons, teas, arrivals, and seasonal celebrations
They also assist with diplomatic protocol at state events and annual meetings with Congress and the Federal Judiciary

[Anonymous]

From the time this female pilot started her training as a pilot, her education and training have been in the hands of predominantly white males. She died in a training exercise. Others died in the training exercise. The white males who want the responsibility of being in charge are accountable.

Investigate the training she had. Investigate the qualifications of the male evaluator on board. Investigate the BS just no trash virtual reality and augmented reality training she had.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do think it’s odd all of the female pilot’s social media was completely scrubbed. But also her siblings and her parents.

I wonder if she had posted comments critical of Trump or J6, and those were scrubbed. Imagine what a mess it would be if one of the pilots of the helicopter was a vocal critic of Trump.

It’s easy enough for big tech, nsa and fbi to pull all deleted accounts so for investigation purposes those will be looked over. Subpoenaed or requested.

For public consumption, no.

[Anonymous]

This response started by Trump is nothing but a modern day witch trial. Scouring the pilot's social media, mocking her. We've suddenly been transported back in time to the Salem Witch Trials 1692, where women are tried and burned.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do think it’s odd all of the female pilot’s social media was completely scrubbed. But also her siblings and her parents.

Why? It’s the first thing I would do.

Because the other pilots and crew involved were released immediately, either willingly or not, I don’t know. They didn’t take extreme time and measures to erase all traces of them the public could potentially judge. And when you are involved in killing a bunch of people, the public will judge. By them not allowing military to release her name and then scrubbing all traces of narrative about her except what they explicitly publish, it seems like something is being hidden she would be judged harshly for- beyond her gender alone

Rebecca as a Captain outranked the copilot, how does that factor in to decision making?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do think it’s odd all of the female pilot’s social media was completely scrubbed. But also her siblings and her parents.

You are personally snooping around random people's social media? Why?

Therre is no such thing as social media snooping. If one posts somethig that can be veiewed by strangers, it is de facto public.

Why are you doing it?

People who are saying that scrubbed social media to hide facts are stupid. The investigators will have access to ALL the facts. They will deep dive everything including all pilots histories.

There is no legitimate need to the public to see this and start ridiculous smearing and grasping at straws.

Agree. Investigators will have everything deleted out health and mental heath records, etc.

Hate the trend of lawyers or laymen posting evidence, photos, old videos, new videos. Like the Blake case he said/she said court of public opinion BS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is possible that if the helicopter saw the plane at the last minute, that is why they went up - to try and go over the plane. The plane was descending so their only option at close distance would have been to go over the top.

According to the pilot forum and their airport maps, planes should be at ~280 feet as they cross the east bank of the river when coming in to runway 33.

The TCAS (collision alert system) turns off when they are that low to the ground and in landing mode so they wouldn't have gotten a warning of a collision.

The warning was going off for the ATC but if you watch the video of the day before, the PAT11 helicopter set off the warning system 3 times in its one flight so they must be very used to hearing it go off.

I don’t know but when I listened to the ATC instructions they specifically tell the BH to confirm it sees the jet descending to land at runway 33, which requires planes to come diagonally across the Potomac (which there is less than 1 mile long) from Bolling in DC to the north of Daingerfield Island in Virginia/DCA. It literally jets across from east to west. NOT the runway that has planes line up behind the WW Bridge so they are coming up the middle of the Potomac.

The BH not only was too high, it was too far west. Did the BH not know the difference between runway 33 and the other 2 runways?

According to the pilot forum, it is extremely common practice for the helicopters on route 4 to go down the middle of the river instead of hugging the bank. They had a few reasons why they do that but none were surprised or thought this was anything out of the ordinary.

My armchair assessment after reading the pilot forums is to agree with their assessment. The BH crew were running various tasks and checklists so their attention was divided. They saw the line of air traffic straight ahead and thought that was who they had visual on, not realizing there was a plane to their left turning in to cross the river. They were west and high but not in any atypical pattern given how heicopters often fly Route 4. According to the pilots, between reflections in the water, city lights, and the disorientation of night and difficulty judging distance, they didn't realize they were on a collision course. They saw the plane at the last second and tried to correct and miss but it was too late.

I get the west part but isn't it atypical to be that high? The pilots were not surprised about that part?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do think it’s odd all of the female pilot’s social media was completely scrubbed. But also her siblings and her parents.

You are personally snooping around random people's social media? Why?

Therre is no such thing as social media snooping. If one posts somethig that can be veiewed by strangers, it is de facto public.

Why are you doing it?

People who are saying that scrubbed social media to hide facts are stupid. The investigators will have access to ALL the facts. They will deep dive everything including all pilots histories.

There is no legitimate need to the public to see this and start ridiculous smearing and grasping at straws.

THIS. I fully support the scrubbing. The other Helo families probably just didn’t know they could or should ask for a delay.

But ask predicted knowing her name changes nothing. We have no more answers than before. I guess we will still just wait for NTSB as some of us have said all along.