APS - School Shifts in the Fall?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But why would you need anon Twitter accounts if you had access to the powers that be? SR talks a good game in AEM, but in the end, just are sewer rats.

APE is no better. Doxxing and bullying teachers? Gross.

There are fine people on both sides, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the pandemic has brought out the worst in people. I'm not active in either group (APE or SR) but I lurk in both just to see what they are saying. I'm pro return to school but also support things like masks and air filters and opening windows when we can, but I also think staying home forever is damaging our children ...

I don't think it will ever be safe enough for the SR people, and it's clear some of the APE people are ready to throw masks out the window and be done with it forever.

As for the school board race, Miranda has never said she wants to be rid of masks, while Mary has said she can see us doing shift schedules to be safe in the fall, so on that side of the debate, I lean more to where Miranda is. Keep the mitigations in place we can do and open vs. waiting for some mythical safety stuff to take place that will never happen and that we can't afford.

If I was either candidate, I would not want to be judged by the worst members of both groups.

Interestingly, though, all over SR right now is one of leaders actively discussing a desire to screenshot people ...

You misunderstood.

Questions I received about the newsletter content suggest that some readers may have misunderstood one part of my original message. I was not advocating for a two-shift school schedule in August. To be absolutely clear, I do not support a two-shift schedule. My point in raising it in the newsletter was simply to note that if APS is operating under CDC social distancing guidelines in August, classroom space will be at a premium. The narrow range of options that exist include what I originally described as Scenario A and Scenario B. If Scenario A is what we desire (see the "Classroom Capacity" section below) then APS must actively plan for it and include it in the budget that the School Board will approve next month.

Wait so we aren't supposed to take the napkin drawings of classrooms seriously? I'm so confused!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the pandemic has brought out the worst in people. I'm not active in either group (APE or SR) but I lurk in both just to see what they are saying. I'm pro return to school but also support things like masks and air filters and opening windows when we can, but I also think staying home forever is damaging our children ...

I don't think it will ever be safe enough for the SR people, and it's clear some of the APE people are ready to throw masks out the window and be done with it forever.

As for the school board race, Miranda has never said she wants to be rid of masks, while Mary has said she can see us doing shift schedules to be safe in the fall, so on that side of the debate, I lean more to where Miranda is. Keep the mitigations in place we can do and open vs. waiting for some mythical safety stuff to take place that will never happen and that we can't afford.

If I was either candidate, I would not want to be judged by the worst members of both groups.

Interestingly, though, all over SR right now is one of leaders actively discussing a desire to screenshot people ...

Except MK is not part of SR, while MT is on the steering committee of APE. SR is only supporting MK because she’s not MT. In fact, given where some of the SR live and the McKinley hubbub of yore, it’s a situation where the enemy of my enemy is my friend. It’s all stupid and should have no bearing on the SB race.

What I can say is that from my years of involvement in APS on various committees and as a volunteer, MK has been around doing the same, for years. MT just showed up, and I don’t feel like she’s done the work to be ready to do the job. She also hasn’t built relationships or good will with anyone outside of APE. She’s seized on a wedge issue, one that’s not even within the purview of the SB decide, in order to win an election.

I'd suggest you do your homework first and get out of your North Arlington bubble. MK has been around a while and was very active in the 2018 redistricting discussions as a Drew parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But why would you need anon Twitter accounts if you had access to the powers that be? SR talks a good game in AEM, but in the end, just are sewer rats.

APE is no better. Doxxing and bullying teachers? Gross.

If you want people to believe that you don’t post here, maybe don’t post virtually the same message here and on AEM within minutes of each other.

Nice bracelet, by the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the pandemic has brought out the worst in people. I'm not active in either group (APE or SR) but I lurk in both just to see what they are saying. I'm pro return to school but also support things like masks and air filters and opening windows when we can, but I also think staying home forever is damaging our children ...

I don't think it will ever be safe enough for the SR people, and it's clear some of the APE people are ready to throw masks out the window and be done with it forever.

As for the school board race, Miranda has never said she wants to be rid of masks, while Mary has said she can see us doing shift schedules to be safe in the fall, so on that side of the debate, I lean more to where Miranda is. Keep the mitigations in place we can do and open vs. waiting for some mythical safety stuff to take place that will never happen and that we can't afford.

If I was either candidate, I would not want to be judged by the worst members of both groups.

Interestingly, though, all over SR right now is one of leaders actively discussing a desire to screenshot people ...

Except MK is not part of SR, while MT is on the steering committee of APE. SR is only supporting MK because she’s not MT. In fact, given where some of the SR live and the McKinley hubbub of yore, it’s a situation where the enemy of my enemy is my friend. It’s all stupid and should have no bearing on the SB race.

What I can say is that from my years of involvement in APS on various committees and as a volunteer, MK has been around doing the same, for years. MT just showed up, and I don’t feel like she’s done the work to be ready to do the job. She also hasn’t built relationships or good will with anyone outside of APE. She’s seized on a wedge issue, one that’s not even within the purview of the SB decide, in order to win an election.

I'd suggest you do your homework first and get out of your North Arlington bubble. MK has been around a while and was very active in the 2018 redistricting discussions as a Drew parent.

DP. Did you mean to say MT?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The handle is @ap_eshit if you want to look it up in blocked status.

The account will never be made public again, but they are certainly still posting. If the person who created it actually recognized their behavior was inappropriate, they would have deleted the account entirely. Instead they only made it private, which means they intend to keep going with encouraging doxxing and harassment, they’re just going to do it more in secret.

How can you tell?

I didn’t mean it in the sense that they necessarily have tweeted again since making it private, only that the plan is to still use it to actively tweet material to followers. There is literally no reason for that account to still exist unless they plan to continue using it. Which is a dicey proposition because Virginia law is fairly accommodating of subpoenas for IP addresses and related data for specific social media accounts if someone who was targeted by the account were to file a lawsuit against the John/Jane Doe owner of it.

I have a Twitter account, but have never posted to it. Not even sure if I can still log in.

The existence of an account doesn't mean anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the pandemic has brought out the worst in people. I'm not active in either group (APE or SR) but I lurk in both just to see what they are saying. I'm pro return to school but also support things like masks and air filters and opening windows when we can, but I also think staying home forever is damaging our children ...

I don't think it will ever be safe enough for the SR people, and it's clear some of the APE people are ready to throw masks out the window and be done with it forever.

As for the school board race, Miranda has never said she wants to be rid of masks, while Mary has said she can see us doing shift schedules to be safe in the fall, so on that side of the debate, I lean more to where Miranda is. Keep the mitigations in place we can do and open vs. waiting for some mythical safety stuff to take place that will never happen and that we can't afford.

If I was either candidate, I would not want to be judged by the worst members of both groups.

Interestingly, though, all over SR right now is one of leaders actively discussing a desire to screenshot people ...

Except MK is not part of SR, while MT is on the steering committee of APE. SR is only supporting MK because she’s not MT. In fact, given where some of the SR live and the McKinley hubbub of yore, it’s a situation where the enemy of my enemy is my friend. It’s all stupid and should have no bearing on the SB race.

What I can say is that from my years of involvement in APS on various committees and as a volunteer, MK has been around doing the same, for years. MT just showed up, and I don’t feel like she’s done the work to be ready to do the job. She also hasn’t built relationships or good will with anyone outside of APE. She’s seized on a wedge issue, one that’s not even within the purview of the SB decide, in order to win an election.

I'd suggest you do your homework first and get out of your North Arlington bubble. MK has been around a while and was very active in the 2018 redistricting discussions as a Drew parent.

DP. Did you mean to say MT?

Agreed. I think they mean MT. MT has also been active and engaged in community discussions and engagement on broader South Arlington issues--not exclusively limited to schools or Drew. I have personally found her to be very sharp, articulate, thoughtful, and balanced in her engagement on tough issues. And isn't a lot of political leadership borne out of difficult situations which inspire people to rise up and take a role? Why fault someone for that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But why would you need anon Twitter accounts if you had access to the powers that be? SR talks a good game in AEM, but in the end, just are sewer rats.

APE is no better. Doxxing and bullying teachers? Gross.

If you want people to believe that you don’t post here, maybe don’t post virtually the same message here and on AEM within minutes of each other.

Nice bracelet, by the way.

I haven't been on AEM all morning. And I never, ever post there (don't want to muddy waters with my business).

Newsflash: there are multiple people who think that people who bully teachers are trash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The handle is @ap_eshit if you want to look it up in blocked status.

The account will never be made public again, but they are certainly still posting. If the person who created it actually recognized their behavior was inappropriate, they would have deleted the account entirely. Instead they only made it private, which means they intend to keep going with encouraging doxxing and harassment, they’re just going to do it more in secret.

How can you tell?

I didn’t mean it in the sense that they necessarily have tweeted again since making it private, only that the plan is to still use it to actively tweet material to followers. There is literally no reason for that account to still exist unless they plan to continue using it. Which is a dicey proposition because Virginia law is fairly accommodating of subpoenas for IP addresses and related data for specific social media accounts if someone who was targeted by the account were to file a lawsuit against the John/Jane Doe owner of it.

I have a Twitter account, but have never posted to it. Not even sure if I can still log in.

The existence of an account doesn't mean anything.

Did you create an alt Twitter account for purposes of harassing people and then lock it down after getting outed? If not, you’re in a different position, so what you do with your Twitter account isn’t relevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the pandemic has brought out the worst in people. I'm not active in either group (APE or SR) but I lurk in both just to see what they are saying. I'm pro return to school but also support things like masks and air filters and opening windows when we can, but I also think staying home forever is damaging our children ...

I don't think it will ever be safe enough for the SR people, and it's clear some of the APE people are ready to throw masks out the window and be done with it forever.

As for the school board race, Miranda has never said she wants to be rid of masks, while Mary has said she can see us doing shift schedules to be safe in the fall, so on that side of the debate, I lean more to where Miranda is. Keep the mitigations in place we can do and open vs. waiting for some mythical safety stuff to take place that will never happen and that we can't afford.

If I was either candidate, I would not want to be judged by the worst members of both groups.

Interestingly, though, all over SR right now is one of leaders actively discussing a desire to screenshot people ...

Except MK is not part of SR, while MT is on the steering committee of APE. SR is only supporting MK because she’s not MT. In fact, given where some of the SR live and the McKinley hubbub of yore, it’s a situation where the enemy of my enemy is my friend. It’s all stupid and should have no bearing on the SB race.

What I can say is that from my years of involvement in APS on various committees and as a volunteer, MK has been around doing the same, for years. MT just showed up, and I don’t feel like she’s done the work to be ready to do the job. She also hasn’t built relationships or good will with anyone outside of APE. She’s seized on a wedge issue, one that’s not even within the purview of the SB decide, in order to win an election.

I'd suggest you do your homework first and get out of your North Arlington bubble. MK has been around a while and was very active in the 2018 redistricting discussions as a Drew parent.

DP. Did you mean to say MT?

LOL yes -- thank you! MT -- too many M names.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But why would you need anon Twitter accounts if you had access to the powers that be? SR talks a good game in AEM, but in the end, just are sewer rats.

APE is no better. Doxxing and bullying teachers? Gross.

There are fine people on both sides, right?

There are shitty people on both sides.

And none of these shitty people are directly involved in the campaigns so... (except some of the mega aggressive dad bros)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The handle is @ap_eshit if you want to look it up in blocked status.

The account will never be made public again, but they are certainly still posting. If the person who created it actually recognized their behavior was inappropriate, they would have deleted the account entirely. Instead they only made it private, which means they intend to keep going with encouraging doxxing and harassment, they’re just going to do it more in secret.

How can you tell?

I didn’t mean it in the sense that they necessarily have tweeted again since making it private, only that the plan is to still use it to actively tweet material to followers. There is literally no reason for that account to still exist unless they plan to continue using it. Which is a dicey proposition because Virginia law is fairly accommodating of subpoenas for IP addresses and related data for specific social media accounts if someone who was targeted by the account were to file a lawsuit against the John/Jane Doe owner of it.

I have a Twitter account, but have never posted to it. Not even sure if I can still log in.

The existence of an account doesn't mean anything.

Did you create an alt Twitter account for purposes of harassing people and then lock it down after getting outed? If not, you’re in a different position, so what you do with your Twitter account isn’t relevant.

The point was....the existence of an account doesn't mean anything. Just because they haven't deleted it doesn't ABSOLUTELY mean that they are going to use it. So irrational...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But why would you need anon Twitter accounts if you had access to the powers that be? SR talks a good game in AEM, but in the end, just are sewer rats.

APE is no better. Doxxing and bullying teachers? Gross.

If you want people to believe that you don’t post here, maybe don’t post virtually the same message here and on AEM within minutes of each other.

Nice bracelet, by the way.

I haven't been on AEM all morning. And I never, ever post there (don't want to muddy waters with my business).

Newsflash: there are multiple people who think that people who bully teachers are trash.

Whatever you say, sweetie.

[Anonymous]

Recall SB lady is posting on AEM today. Very ballsy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The handle is @ap_eshit if you want to look it up in blocked status.

The account will never be made public again, but they are certainly still posting. If the person who created it actually recognized their behavior was inappropriate, they would have deleted the account entirely. Instead they only made it private, which means they intend to keep going with encouraging doxxing and harassment, they’re just going to do it more in secret.

How can you tell?

I didn’t mean it in the sense that they necessarily have tweeted again since making it private, only that the plan is to still use it to actively tweet material to followers. There is literally no reason for that account to still exist unless they plan to continue using it. Which is a dicey proposition because Virginia law is fairly accommodating of subpoenas for IP addresses and related data for specific social media accounts if someone who was targeted by the account were to file a lawsuit against the John/Jane Doe owner of it.

I have a Twitter account, but have never posted to it. Not even sure if I can still log in.

The existence of an account doesn't mean anything.

Did you create an alt Twitter account for purposes of harassing people and then lock it down after getting outed? If not, you’re in a different position, so what you do with your Twitter account isn’t relevant.

The point was....the existence of an account doesn't mean anything. Just because they haven't deleted it doesn't ABSOLUTELY mean that they are going to use it. So irrational...

PP who made the original comments, the one to which you most immediately responded was not me. The person who owns that account has created potential legal risk for themselves already. They are sufficiently aware of that risk that they have locked down the account so only people they trust can see it. And yet they chose not to delete it, which is what a smart person would do if they planned to never tweet from it again. That wouldn’t completely insulate them from legal risk, but it would make it far less likely that someone targeted by that account in the past would feel the need to take legal action to keep it from happening again. The owner, however, has chosen to keep it active, which only makes sense if they are planning to still use it.

Obviously there is a chance that they are just leaving it dormant but don’t plan to use it. But when someone has already shown their malicious intent, its reasonable to believe them.