Since this is anonymous, why did you REALLY redshirt your kid?

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Anonymous wrote:People who are bent out of shape about other people's kids being redshirted win the worst parents of the year award. Every kid is different and every family is different. There is no one reason people keep their kid home an extra year, just as there is no one reason your kid lost the election for class president, OP! There is no one reason they weren't picked as homecoming king or queen!! Just love them anyway and stop focusing on the redshirted kids as your excuse. Your kids are fine they way they are.

I'm not trying to stop parents from redshirting their kids. I just don't think the redshirted kid should be allowed to enter a situation where they're getting compared to their age-appropriate classmates, because of course they're going to come out on top.

The range of "appropriate" age is closer to 18mo than it is to 12mo. You just have to accept that, I'm afraid. If you're super worried about your kid coming out "on top" then I guess you just have to time your conception carefully.

Also, I'm sorry that you see life as a cage match.

+1 What parents are keeping track of other kids' birthdays and whether they come out on top? Your kid is fine the way they are. They shouldn't have to come out on top to win your approval.

My kids have my approval as long as they play by the rules, regardless of where they come out. Coming out on top by cheating doesn't impress me one iota.

It's not cheating. It's allowed.

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Anonymous wrote:People who are bent out of shape about other people's kids being redshirted win the worst parents of the year award. Every kid is different and every family is different. There is no one reason people keep their kid home an extra year, just as there is no one reason your kid lost the election for class president, OP! There is no one reason they weren't picked as homecoming king or queen!! Just love them anyway and stop focusing on the redshirted kids as your excuse. Your kids are fine they way they are.

I'm not trying to stop parents from redshirting their kids. I just don't think the redshirted kid should be allowed to enter a situation where they're getting compared to their age-appropriate classmates, because of course they're going to come out on top.

The range of "appropriate" age is closer to 18mo than it is to 12mo. You just have to accept that, I'm afraid. If you're super worried about your kid coming out "on top" then I guess you just have to time your conception carefully.

Also, I'm sorry that you see life as a cage match.

A year is 12 months, not 18 months. The cut-offs are there to ensure that the oldest student in grade n is younger than the youngest student in grade n+1. Do you disagree that that's important for an efficient educational structure? The moment there's overlap, everything falls to shambles, because it's a violation of nature if a student in grade n is older than a student in grade n+1.

It's the parents who redshirt who should've been more careful about when they conceived. If their kid was born in the last quarter of the year, it's because they conceived in the first quarter of the year. That was their choice. They could have conceived in the second quarter of the year, which would have caused their kid to be born in the first quarter of the year. When you make a mistake or plan poorly, the proper thing to do is own up to it, instead of violating the rules that experienced professionals have worked so hard to put in place.

You do realize some kids fail a grade, too, right? We had a kid in elementary school who was head and shoulders taller than the other boys and sprouting peach fuzz. I learned as an adult that he had been held back a grade, which explained all that. What do you propose to do with those kids, PP?

That PP can't handle her child dropping a glass on the floor and breaking it without freaking out at her poor child. Don't ask her to have complex thoughts.

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The laws of nature dictate that some kids are naturally smarter, faster, taller, shorter, more mature, less mature, more likable, more attentive, more able to follow rules, less likable, more easily bored, less likely to get sick, more likely to play an instrument well, and score better (or worse) than average on standardized tests, no matter what their ages are. Facts are facts. Don't mess with mother nature.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what the age-span of a classroom is as long as there isn't any overlap. What's of the utmost importance is that the oldest student in a given cohort is younger than the youngest student in the cohort immediate above.

Interesting. So how do you feel about parents who get exemptions to send their kids to kindergarten early? Because that also happens regularly. Is that also extremely distressing to you?

That's an equal violation of nature in the opposite direction. Though in that case, the parents who do it are only hurting their own child.

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Anonymous wrote:People who are bent out of shape about other people's kids being redshirted win the worst parents of the year award. Every kid is different and every family is different. There is no one reason people keep their kid home an extra year, just as there is no one reason your kid lost the election for class president, OP! There is no one reason they weren't picked as homecoming king or queen!! Just love them anyway and stop focusing on the redshirted kids as your excuse. Your kids are fine they way they are.

I'm not trying to stop parents from redshirting their kids. I just don't think the redshirted kid should be allowed to enter a situation where they're getting compared to their age-appropriate classmates, because of course they're going to come out on top.

The range of "appropriate" age is closer to 18mo than it is to 12mo. You just have to accept that, I'm afraid. If you're super worried about your kid coming out "on top" then I guess you just have to time your conception carefully.

Also, I'm sorry that you see life as a cage match.

A year is 12 months, not 18 months. The cut-offs are there to ensure that the oldest student in grade n is younger than the youngest student in grade n+1. Do you disagree that that's important for an efficient educational structure? The moment there's overlap, everything falls to shambles, because it's a violation of nature if a student in grade n is older than a student in grade n+1.

It's the parents who redshirt who should've been more careful about when they conceived. If their kid was born in the last quarter of the year, it's because they conceived in the first quarter of the year. That was their choice. They could have conceived in the second quarter of the year, which would have caused their kid to be born in the first quarter of the year. When you make a mistake or plan poorly, the proper thing to do is own up to it, instead of violating the rules that experienced professionals have worked so hard to put in place.

You do realize some kids fail a grade, too, right? We had a kid in elementary school who was head and shoulders taller than the other boys and sprouting peach fuzz. I learned as an adult that he had been held back a grade, which explained all that. What do you propose to do with those kids, PP?

Kids who fail should be moved to special schools instead of being held back, and that way they'll be with other kids their age who are behind. Conversely, kids who are accelerated should be moved to gifted schools instead of being grade-skipped, and that way they'll be with other kids their age who are ahead.

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Damn, you’re fascinating. So you think special schools should be built and enforced for anyone is not in lockstep with their age cohort, as defined by a strict 12 month span.

Because nature.

Also, anyone who is more than 12 months older than the youngest person in the class is cheating, whereas anybody who is more than 12 months younger then the oldest person in the class is being cheated.

Do I have this correct?

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What about kids who are the appropriate age for the class but are nonetheless smarter and more lovable and just all around better than the others -- like mine?

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Anonymous wrote:What about kids who are the appropriate age for the class but are nonetheless smarter and more lovable and just all around better than the others -- like mine?

Well, they earned that didn't they? Their brains were structured in such a way that they were destined to outshine their classmates.

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Anonymous wrote:Damn, you’re fascinating. So you think special schools should be built and enforced for anyone is not in lockstep with their age cohort, as defined by a strict 12 month span.

Because nature.

Also, anyone who is more than 12 months older than the youngest person in the class is cheating, whereas anybody who is more than 12 months younger then the oldest person in the class is being cheated.

Do I have this correct?

I couldn't have put it better myself.

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Anonymous wrote:People who are bent out of shape about other people's kids being redshirted win the worst parents of the year award. Every kid is different and every family is different. There is no one reason people keep their kid home an extra year, just as there is no one reason your kid lost the election for class president, OP! There is no one reason they weren't picked as homecoming king or queen!! Just love them anyway and stop focusing on the redshirted kids as your excuse. Your kids are fine they way they are.

I'm not trying to stop parents from redshirting their kids. I just don't think the redshirted kid should be allowed to enter a situation where they're getting compared to their age-appropriate classmates, because of course they're going to come out on top.

The range of "appropriate" age is closer to 18mo than it is to 12mo. You just have to accept that, I'm afraid. If you're super worried about your kid coming out "on top" then I guess you just have to time your conception carefully.

Also, I'm sorry that you see life as a cage match.

A year is 12 months, not 18 months. The cut-offs are there to ensure that the oldest student in grade n is younger than the youngest student in grade n+1. Do you disagree that that's important for an efficient educational structure? The moment there's overlap, everything falls to shambles, because it's a violation of nature if a student in grade n is older than a student in grade n+1.

It's the parents who redshirt who should've been more careful about when they conceived. If their kid was born in the last quarter of the year, it's because they conceived in the first quarter of the year. That was their choice. They could have conceived in the second quarter of the year, which would have caused their kid to be born in the first quarter of the year. When you make a mistake or plan poorly, the proper thing to do is own up to it, instead of violating the rules that experienced professionals have worked so hard to put in place.

You do realize some kids fail a grade, too, right? We had a kid in elementary school who was head and shoulders taller than the other boys and sprouting peach fuzz. I learned as an adult that he had been held back a grade, which explained all that. What do you propose to do with those kids, PP?

Kids who fail should be moved to special schools instead of being held back, and that way they'll be with other kids their age who are behind. Conversely, kids who are accelerated should be moved to gifted schools instead of being grade-skipped, and that way they'll be with other kids their age who are ahead.

DCUM's anti-redshirt posters are some of the weirdest, most rigid thinkers as a group I've ever encountered. I mean, this PP is obviously certifiable, and there are so many similar anti-redshirt posters on DCUM like this nutcase. It's actually quite fascinating. I really wonder how they function in the real world (actually, on reflection, they probably don't function well in the real world). Wow.

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Yep, this is a real life crazy person. I started to suspect it the first time she said “natural law” and by the time she got to “special schools” I knew that we had either a really dedicated troll or someone is 100% nuts.

[Anonymous]

This troll is probably the wounded redshirted poster who pops up to say his parents' decision to hold him back a year warped him for life.

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Anonymous wrote:This troll is probably the wounded redshirted poster who pops up to say his parents' decision to hold him back a year warped him for life.

It's put heavy expectations on me.

https://www.cultofpedagogy.com/academic-redshirting/

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-15490760

If I don't meet the expectations discussed in articles like these, I'll seem like a failure, like I messed up. I would've been perfectly happy with a modest career and a modest lifestyle, but because I was redshirted, great things are expected of me. Why should I want that kind of pressure?

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Anonymous wrote:This troll is probably the wounded redshirted poster who pops up to say his parents' decision to hold him back a year warped him for life.

It's put heavy expectations on me.

https://www.cultofpedagogy.com/academic-redshirting/

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-15490760

If I don't meet the expectations discussed in articles like these, I'll seem like a failure, like I messed up. I would've been perfectly happy with a modest career and a modest lifestyle, but because I was redshirted, great things are expected of me. Why should I want that kind of pressure?

I say this with all compassion: get yourself some counseling. Your life’s woes are not because you were redshirted. if your parents have unrealistic expectations, they would have had them whether you were redshirted or not. If you feel inadequate, there would have been another reason for you to feel inadequate, believe me. The year you started schooling is not the reason you are unhappy with your life.

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Anonymous wrote:This troll is probably the wounded redshirted poster who pops up to say his parents' decision to hold him back a year warped him for life.

It's put heavy expectations on me.

https://www.cultofpedagogy.com/academic-redshirting/

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-15490760

If I don't meet the expectations discussed in articles like these, I'll seem like a failure, like I messed up. I would've been perfectly happy with a modest career and a modest lifestyle, but because I was redshirted, great things are expected of me. Why should I want that kind of pressure?

I say this with all compassion: get yourself some counseling. Your life’s woes are not because you were redshirted. if your parents have unrealistic expectations, they would have had them whether you were redshirted or not.

It's not my parents who have these expectations. It's nature, as well as most objective outsiders, such as the people who conducted the studies I linked.