Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 5

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Anonymous wrote:Question for the BK supporters. Do you really think he's the right choice for the Supreme Court or do you just want to "win"?

I go back an forth on whether or not I want him on the court. I want a conservative on the court. I would prefer BK over the possibility of losing the seat. I also despise the dirty politics the dems played during the process. I know the Republicans do the same thing. Doesn't make it right. I also hate the way the Dems are so hypocritical about the allegations over BK but don't say a word about Ellison. I also don't appreciate the way that they are lobbying a presumption of guilt on BK.

I hope he doesn't get the vote and they nominate and push through another conservative judge. Part of me would enjoy watching crying chuck Schumer and Feinstein lose.

Hardiman would get 75+ votes for confirmation before the midterms.

And that is the crux of the matter! If there was still a little bit of trust remaining between Rs and Ds, they could hash out a deal to confirm a more centrist conservative. Democrats historically have not had much objections to a conservative-leaning Supreme Court. But here the nominee just pushed all of the left wing's buttons, from being suspected of being willing to protect Trump et al. from consequences of their actions to possibly enabling states to ban abortion.

I just wish there had been some overture on the Democrat side to such a deal.

An overture that would be promptly rebuffed. There is no need for bipartisanship now that Mitch blew up the Senate. He could have supported a consensus candidate but didn’t because he didn’t have to. Don’t blame the minority for working with what little they had.

I don't blame them, but I wish they could rise above. Go high. Ultimately, it's the right thing to do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, they are going to need Pence just for cloture.

Mancin voted to proceed, so Pence not needed.

Insane. The Republicans can't even vote to vote for their guy.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for the BK supporters. Do you really think he's the right choice for the Supreme Court or do you just want to "win"?

I go back an forth on whether or not I want him on the court. I want a conservative on the court. I would prefer BK over the possibility of losing the seat. I also despise the dirty politics the dems played during the process. I know the Republicans do the same thing. Doesn't make it right. I also hate the way the Dems are so hypocritical about the allegations over BK but don't say a word about Ellison. I also don't appreciate the way that they are lobbying a presumption of guilt on BK.

I hope he doesn't get the vote and they nominate and push through another conservative judge. Part of me would enjoy watching crying chuck Schumer and Feinstein lose.

Hardiman would get 75+ votes for confirmation before the midterms.

And that is the crux of the matter! If there was still a little bit of trust remaining between Rs and Ds, they could hash out a deal to confirm a more centrist conservative. Democrats historically have not had much objections to a conservative-leaning Supreme Court. But here the nominee just pushed all of the left wing's buttons, from being suspected of being willing to protect Trump et al. from consequences of their actions to possibly enabling states to ban abortion.

I just wish there had been some overture on the Democrat side to such a deal.

It isn't up to the democrats to make such an overture. They have no power at all in the government right now. None.

I hope and pray some staff from Flake, Murkowski, and Collins' offices are looking at or posting on this thread--this is the way forward to save our country from ripping apart.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, they are going to need Pence just for cloture.

Mancin voted to proceed, so Pence not needed.

I really hope he won't be the one Democrat to confirm this nominee. Surely he has to see that he will be blackballed from his own party.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for the BK supporters. Do you really think he's the right choice for the Supreme Court or do you just want to "win"?

I go back an forth on whether or not I want him on the court. I want a conservative on the court. I would prefer BK over the possibility of losing the seat. I also despise the dirty politics the dems played during the process. I know the Republicans do the same thing. Doesn't make it right. I also hate the way the Dems are so hypocritical about the allegations over BK but don't say a word about Ellison. I also don't appreciate the way that they are lobbying a presumption of guilt on BK.

I hope he doesn't get the vote and they nominate and push through another conservative judge. Part of me would enjoy watching crying chuck Schumer and Feinstein lose.

Hardiman would get 75+ votes for confirmation before the midterms.

And that is the crux of the matter! If there was still a little bit of trust remaining between Rs and Ds, they could hash out a deal to confirm a more centrist conservative. Democrats historically have not had much objections to a conservative-leaning Supreme Court. But here the nominee just pushed all of the left wing's buttons, from being suspected of being willing to protect Trump et al. from consequences of their actions to possibly enabling states to ban abortion.

I just wish there had been some overture on the Democrat side to such a deal.

It isn't up to the democrats to make such an overture. They have no power at all in the government right now. None.

You don't understand. If D leaders could offer adequate proof to R leaders that they would be supportive of a more moderate conservative nominee, and if such information could be relayed to the White House, that would go a long way to reassure the GOP that if this nominee was pulled, Ds will confirm another one instead of stalling. This is what I would do. If the White House balks, it would be proof that all Trump wants is self-protection with a bought candidate who will vote on his behalf re: pardons, etc. But then D would be able to say that this is not a problem of their making, and come out looking like the good guys.

I understand, and it is a nice sentiment, but wholly unrealistic. McConnell told Trump not to put Kavanaugh forward and is stuck with it. It could go either way, but they could have pulled Kavanaugh last week, put Hardiman forward and gotten 70-75 votes without any issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, they are going to need Pence just for cloture.

Mancin voted to proceed, so Pence not needed.

I really hope he won't be the one Democrat to confirm this nominee. Surely he has to see that he will be blackballed from his own party.

I don't think that would happen. Mancin won't be the 50th vote.

If Murkowski is a no, which I have been saying all along is likely, then I think Flake, Collins and Mancin will all vote No together and end this.

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Anonymous wrote:Flake spent last weekend in… Wait for it… New Hampshire.

He cannot be nominated to anything in today’s Republican Party if he does not vote yes.

Collins will announce yes at 3 o’clock yes, and then it is game over. She’s always the big swing vote and she always goes Republican on the big stuff late in the game. Standard practice for her.

This will allow Murkowski and Manchin to vote no.

Except healthcare. She saved healthcare with John McCain even though he got the glory.

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Anonymous wrote:Listening to McConnell speak. He is sooooo vile.

absolutely. just despicable

He's also confirming what everyone already knew -- they leaked the anonymous allegations to try to muddy the waters about the real, credible ones with names attached that they refused to investigate.

This is the kind of time when I doubt the existence of god. If god was there, would not vile people like McConnell, Hatch or Grassley have a heart attcak mid sentence? I despise the current crop of GOP.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for the BK supporters. Do you really think he's the right choice for the Supreme Court or do you just want to "win"?

I go back an forth on whether or not I want him on the court. I want a conservative on the court. I would prefer BK over the possibility of losing the seat. I also despise the dirty politics the dems played during the process. I know the Republicans do the same thing. Doesn't make it right. I also hate the way the Dems are so hypocritical about the allegations over BK but don't say a word about Ellison. I also don't appreciate the way that they are lobbying a presumption of guilt on BK.

I hope he doesn't get the vote and they nominate and push through another conservative judge. Part of me would enjoy watching crying chuck Schumer and Feinstein lose.

Hardiman would get 75+ votes for confirmation before the midterms.

And that is the crux of the matter! If there was still a little bit of trust remaining between Rs and Ds, they could hash out a deal to confirm a more centrist conservative. Democrats historically have not had much objections to a conservative-leaning Supreme Court. But here the nominee just pushed all of the left wing's buttons, from being suspected of being willing to protect Trump et al. from consequences of their actions to possibly enabling states to ban abortion.

I just wish there had been some overture on the Democrat side to such a deal.

It isn't up to the democrats to make such an overture. They have no power at all in the government right now. None.

I hope and pray some staff from Flake, Murkowski, and Collins' offices are looking at or posting on this thread--this is the way forward to save our country from ripping apart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Flake spent last weekend in… Wait for it… New Hampshire.

He cannot be nominated to anything in today’s Republican Party if he does not vote yes.

Collins will announce yes at 3 o’clock yes, and then it is game over. She’s always the big swing vote and she always goes Republican on the big stuff late in the game. Standard practice for her.

This will allow Murkowski and Manchin to vote no.

Why on earth would Collins vote yes? At this point, doesn't she understand Mainers want a no?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Flake spent last weekend in… Wait for it… New Hampshire.

He cannot be nominated to anything in today’s Republican Party if he does not vote yes.

Collins will announce yes at 3 o’clock yes, and then it is game over. She’s always the big swing vote and she always goes Republican on the big stuff late in the game. Standard practice for her.

This will allow Murkowski and Manchin to vote no.

Except healthcare. She saved healthcare with John McCain even though he got the glory.

Collins also voted for cloture on Betsy DeVos and then voted against her confirmation.

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And that is the crux of the matter! If there was still a little bit of trust remaining between Rs and Ds, they could hash out a deal to confirm a more centrist conservative. Democrats historically have not had much objections to a conservative-leaning Supreme Court. But here the nominee just pushed all of the left wing's buttons, from being suspected of being willing to protect Trump et al. from consequences of their actions to possibly enabling states to ban abortion.

I just wish there had been some overture on the Democrat side to such a deal.




It isn't up to the democrats to make such an overture. They have no power at all in the government right now. None.


I hope and pray some staff from Flake, Murkowski, and Collins' offices are looking at or posting on this thread--this is the way forward to save our country from ripping apart.

LOL!

Bork? Thomas?

This is the worst ever. To oppose a man because you disagree is one thing--to conduct the politics of personal destruction is another. This truly was the worst. And, for all the talk about bullying these days, those people attacking and bullying Senators is disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Flake spent last weekend in… Wait for it… New Hampshire.

He cannot be nominated to anything in today’s Republican Party if he does not vote yes.

Collins will announce yes at 3 o’clock yes, and then it is game over. She’s always the big swing vote and she always goes Republican on the big stuff late in the game. Standard practice for her.

This will allow Murkowski and Manchin to vote no.

Why on earth would Collins vote yes? At this point, doesn't she understand Mainers want a no?

One would think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Flake spent last weekend in… Wait for it… New Hampshire.

He cannot be nominated to anything in today’s Republican Party if he does not vote yes.

Collins will announce yes at 3 o’clock yes, and then it is game over. She’s always the big swing vote and she always goes Republican on the big stuff late in the game. Standard practice for her.

This will allow Murkowski and Manchin to vote no.

Why on earth would Collins vote yes? At this point, doesn't she understand Mainers want a no?

Hopefully she’ll give a kick@ss speech at 3.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Flake spent last weekend in… Wait for it… New Hampshire.

He cannot be nominated to anything in today’s Republican Party if he does not vote yes.

Collins will announce yes at 3 o’clock yes, and then it is game over. She’s always the big swing vote and she always goes Republican on the big stuff late in the game. Standard practice for her.

This will allow Murkowski and Manchin to vote no.

Why on earth would Collins vote yes? At this point, doesn't she understand Mainers want a no?

This Mainer certainly wants a no and has called Collins, but even in my bastion of liberal Southern Maine, there are people on the fence. I have to assume that the northern Mainers are all in on BK.