Breaking up with my toxic mom group (Ashley Tisdale essay)

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Anonymous wrote:I first read about this on Reddit and people were saying the mom group was lead by Hilary Duff and also included Mandy Moore, and possibly/likely Meghan Trainor and Lea Michele. And some women who were likely not famous but were rich and well-connected, either from their husbands or from their own work as celeb stylists, influencers, etc. So a real group of A-listers …

It sounded like Ashley came late to the group and was a fringe friend/member or the queen bees Hilary and Mandy didn’t really care for her too much and wouldn’t let her into the “inner circle.” Tale as old as time! She was right to extract herself from the group when she did.

I wonder if Emily from the old Cupcakes and Cashmere blog is part of mom group? And is this the same group that sort of kicked Minka Kelly out because they started having kids and she didn't?

Confirmation: i see Ems, Christina, Raina, and a Striker sister in the alleged toxic mom gang per page six

NGL, going on vibes only, this looks like a nightmare.

Totally insufferable and cringe vibes for sure

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Anonymous wrote:Page Six listed the members with info about each. https://pagesix.com/2026/01/06/parents/meet-the-members-of-the-mom-group-ashley-tisdale-branded-toxic-and-mean/

I love this article. I like how they included whether or not people are followed by Ashley Tisdale as part of their bio.

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Anonymous wrote:Page Six listed the members with info about each. https://pagesix.com/2026/01/06/parents/meet-the-members-of-the-mom-group-ashley-tisdale-branded-toxic-and-mean/

I love this article. I like how they included whether or not people are followed by Ashley Tisdale as part of their bio.

Samii Ryan is the evil one.

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Anonymous wrote:Page Six listed the members with info about each. https://pagesix.com/2026/01/06/parents/meet-the-members-of-the-mom-group-ashley-tisdale-branded-toxic-and-mean/

I thought it was interesting how these women have been talking up this group for years in interviews. It starts to become more clear to me why Tisdale did the essay. It's still messy AF but in keeping with the vibe of the group which is very "look at us! omg, you guys, we have the coolest moms group! #squadgoals"

It all comes off as very performative, this sort of people who are constantly saying "omg, I love us" but you never talk about anything deep and most people are in it because it just makes them feel more socially secure, but the friendships aren't real.

I actually think it's sad that Tisdale thought she was losing something when this group ousted her. It's too bad she can't see that it was a blessing in disguise.

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Anonymous wrote:Tisdale’s article appeared on my newsfeed today right next to the headlines about Tatiana schlossberg’s funeral and untimely death from aggressive cancer. A stark contrast and a reminder of how completely asinine and unimportant this entire topic is. It’s pedantic that cliques exist amongst grown adults and attention and validation seeking that tisdale would write an article about it. People lack perspective on what’s important in life.

Of course it seems unimportant compared to someone dying at a young age from cancer. 99% of this website is unimportant compared to that.

But friendships, finding support as a mom, and just generally having community are actually very important.

Which you can do without the friend “group” angle. Your own mom, or other women who have raised kids and share their wisdom and advice, coworkers, one-on-one friends. There’s so many ways to have the support and community, without the “group” part of it.

Many, many women find themselves in Mom groups. They want to know other moms in the neighborhood with babies the same age. This isn't remotely weird or odd.

The “group” idea is odd. Most people find 1-2 people they like in a group.

In a class of people you find 1-2 friends.
On a sports team you find 1-2 friends.
At work you find 1-2 friends.

The idea you will find a group where every single person is close friends is not real life.

Ok? But in that group are people pointedly excluding you, being weird and sitting you far away from the rest of the group, making plans in front of you? We don't all have to be friends but some of these women went out of their way to be jerks. It's not that hard to be nice at a kid's birthday party and not you know, invite all the other girlies for something like a brunch the next day in front of the hostess and not include her.

In a class we break into groups and yes I’m not part of every group. In school at lunch the lunch tables are harder to join than sororities. I’m not invited to every study group. In sports I’m not always invited to get food after practice, I don’t sit with certain people at pre-game dinners.

I go to birthday parties and don’t talk to every parent.

Your taking this not talk about something too far. It reminds me of the movie Booksmart where nobody’s allowed to talk about what school they got into because it might hurt somebody’s feelings.

Here’s the reality people are doing things without you. Some people have more money than you. Some people go on vacation vacations with friends and you’re not invited. You’re not invited to every brunch.

Find your one or two friends and do something with them.

Oh please. This is about what Ashley wrote. If you want to talk about your own personal groups do that elsewhere. What she described sucks.

We are in the relationship forum not the entertainment forum. This is talking about women groups in general.

Ashley, just needs to relax. People are mean I could write 20 articles about mean women I’ve met in the DC area.

Really? It’s not new. It’s not interesting.

Exactly. She wrote this article like she was me too’d. The mom group sounds like a cult. Just make a few friends and stop referring to yourself as a group.

One of my kids had a small preschool pod that was together for a few years. Us mom in the group bonded. We love seeing each other and some of our kids do some activities together, we have a what’s app group and sometimes get dinner. But some individuals are closer to each other than others and we all have other friends. What tisdale is whining about seems so immature. She’s 40 years old and doesn’t need her friend group to be everything in life, and even weirder to use her kids as a vehicle for it.

Sounds a bit hypocritical coming from someone with a group based around preschoolers. Find your own friends and leave the kids out if it.

We don’t have a “group.” We like each other and stay in touch and get dinner sometimes. We all have our own lives and friends outside of it and there’s no “Queen bee” dynamic.

The irritating parts of this saga are:

- grown women acting like they’re in middle school and having a “clique” that does everything together
- grown women behaving like their life revolves around said clique
- rejected clique member feeling so infuriated by her self proclaimed “drama” that they feel the need to expose it on a public way.

Hilary duff and Mandy Moore may be catty (who knows? Not me) but tisdale stirring the pot by creating tabloid fodder - all while framing this like a vanity fair assault expose - also tells you a lot about her level of self absorption as a person.

Pp again. And to add to that, I’d say that everything about duff and Mandy Moore is heresay, based on tisdales account. The only thing we actually know for sure is that tisdale is enough of a drama queen to publish this self absorbed, tone deaf article about a saga of her own creation.

I don’t think you can say it’s all just Ashley Tisdale airing random grievances and “what’s the other side of the story” when Hilary Duff’s husband stepped in, guns a blazin. Now Hilary (and her husband) both look kind of crazy and guilty. They could have stayed out of it and the whole thing would have blown over in a day or two, now look what we’re all talking about.

+1 The husband’s behavior is not helping Hilary beat the mean girl rumors. He shined a bright spotlight on her.

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Is Ashley in any of these photos? She’s barely in the group.

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Anonymous wrote:Page Six listed the members with info about each. https://pagesix.com/2026/01/06/parents/meet-the-members-of-the-mom-group-ashley-tisdale-branded-toxic-and-mean/

I thought it was interesting how these women have been talking up this group for years in interviews. It starts to become more clear to me why Tisdale did the essay. It's still messy AF but in keeping with the vibe of the group which is very "look at us! omg, you guys, we have the coolest moms group! #squadgoals"

It all comes off as very performative, this sort of people who are constantly saying "omg, I love us" but you never talk about anything deep and most people are in it because it just makes them feel more socially secure, but the friendships aren't real.

I actually think it's sad that Tisdale thought she was losing something when this group ousted her. It's too bad she can't see that it was a blessing in disguise.

Agree. And lol at these women attempting to be "cool."

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Anonymous wrote:Stupid question: Does this mom’s group get together without their kids?

Yes it sounds like they mostly got together without kids -- dinners out, spa trips, weekends away, etc. These are all wealthy women with nannies so it's not like they were SAHMs forming the group so they had people to talk to at the playground with their kids 5 days a week. It was just a friend group, but everyone in it was a mom with young kids so they had that in common.

Is this common? Do the people here saying they had a similar dynamic also have “mom groups” that the kids aren’t involved in? It seems so unusual to me.

Do you have any friends at all? What is so unusual about “moms” hanging out? They are people with children who happen to get together.

Because it’s weird. It’s normal to have a group of women who all hang out together, but there is no need for them to all be moms. And it’s totally normal for a group of women to all be moms. Like if they have a toddler playgroup or a bunch of moms with older kids who go to school together or do an activity together get to know each other and hang out.

It’s weird for a bunch of ladies to all get together in a “mom-group” and then not bring their kids. What is this?

I mean, I’ve been in plenty of book clubs where no one reads the book and eventually we give up the premise that there is actually a book we are going to read. But I have never been in a “mom group” that didn’t somehow involve the kids.

Are you sure you’re a woman with woman friends?

Yes…
Are you in a group like this? Where everyone in the group has to have kids, but you don’t involve the kids?

Dork, they have kids and then decide to have a kid free night out or lunch or whatever. It’s like going out to lunch with coworkers at place other than the office.

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Anonymous wrote:I first read about this on Reddit and people were saying the mom group was lead by Hilary Duff and also included Mandy Moore, and possibly/likely Meghan Trainor and Lea Michele. And some women who were likely not famous but were rich and well-connected, either from their husbands or from their own work as celeb stylists, influencers, etc. So a real group of A-listers …

It sounded like Ashley came late to the group and was a fringe friend/member or the queen bees Hilary and Mandy didn’t really care for her too much and wouldn’t let her into the “inner circle.” Tale as old as time! She was right to extract herself from the group when she did.

I wonder if Emily from the old Cupcakes and Cashmere blog is part of mom group? And is this the same group that sort of kicked Minka Kelly out because they started having kids and she didn't?

Confirmation: i see Ems, Christina, Raina, and a Striker sister in the alleged toxic mom gang per page six

Who is the surgeon who did all these women's faces? I don't know whether to condemn him or nominate him for a comedy award, I can't tell anyone apart. This is like the limousine liberal's answer to the Mara Lago makeover. Horrid and hilarious. And red lipstick always makes face work look more cartoonish, just so you know.

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Why are the “cool moms” trying so very hard to convince everyone they are actually cool? The whole thing reeks of desperation and insecurity. I can only imagine the side group text conversations where they talk shit about each other in that faux concern way some women do. “I hope she’s ok? I’m worried about her…” as the gossip starts.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are the “cool moms” trying so very hard to convince everyone they are actually cool? The whole thing reeks of desperation and insecurity. I can only imagine the side group text conversations where they talk shit about each other in that faux concern way some women do. “I hope she’s ok? I’m worried about her…” as the gossip starts.

Yup. "I'm just so worried about her" is code for "let's trash her husband, career, kids, and looks."

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Anonymous wrote:Why are the “cool moms” trying so very hard to convince everyone they are actually cool? The whole thing reeks of desperation and insecurity. I can only imagine the side group text conversations where they talk shit about each other in that faux concern way some women do. “I hope she’s ok? I’m worried about her…” as the gossip starts.

Yup. "I'm just so worried about her" is code for "let's trash her husband, career, kids, and looks."

The career thing for sure. Wasn't that one of Ashley's complaints that they thought they were more successful but most of them are just content creators and such. Nothing to really brag about.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Ashley in any of these photos? She’s barely in the group.

I’m assuming she was invited to the kid hangs and kid play dates but WAS NOT generally invited to the adult only events, parties, etc. where pics were more likely to be taken. Hence her article about breaking up with the toxic group.

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Anonymous wrote:I first read about this on Reddit and people were saying the mom group was lead by Hilary Duff and also included Mandy Moore, and possibly/likely Meghan Trainor and Lea Michele. And some women who were likely not famous but were rich and well-connected, either from their husbands or from their own work as celeb stylists, influencers, etc. So a real group of A-listers …

It sounded like Ashley came late to the group and was a fringe friend/member or the queen bees Hilary and Mandy didn’t really care for her too much and wouldn’t let her into the “inner circle.” Tale as old as time! She was right to extract herself from the group when she did.

I wonder if Emily from the old Cupcakes and Cashmere blog is part of mom group? And is this the same group that sort of kicked Minka Kelly out because they started having kids and she didn't?

Confirmation: i see Ems, Christina, Raina, and a Striker sister in the alleged toxic mom gang per page six

NGL, going on vibes only, this looks like a nightmare.

Is this basically a bunch of rich but not necessarily famous women sucking up to 2-3 actresses/singers?

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Anonymous wrote:I first read about this on Reddit and people were saying the mom group was lead by Hilary Duff and also included Mandy Moore, and possibly/likely Meghan Trainor and Lea Michele. And some women who were likely not famous but were rich and well-connected, either from their husbands or from their own work as celeb stylists, influencers, etc. So a real group of A-listers …

It sounded like Ashley came late to the group and was a fringe friend/member or the queen bees Hilary and Mandy didn’t really care for her too much and wouldn’t let her into the “inner circle.” Tale as old as time! She was right to extract herself from the group when she did.

I wonder if Emily from the old Cupcakes and Cashmere blog is part of mom group? And is this the same group that sort of kicked Minka Kelly out because they started having kids and she didn't?

Confirmation: i see Ems, Christina, Raina, and a Striker sister in the alleged toxic mom gang per page six

NGL, going on vibes only, this looks like a nightmare.

Is this basically a bunch of rich but not necessarily famous women sucking up to 2-3 actresses/singers?

Seems like it. These women aren't even close to being the most powerful women in LA but they seem to act like they are pretty big deals. They are delusional.