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Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

Why don't you properly hire his/her and petition for their work visa or any other immigration visa? What stops you to do it a legal way if you are such a morally right person?

You know nothing. Under the current law, there is literally no way for him to get legal status. None. You're one of the many who think there's some kind of "line" he can get into. There is none.

Why you cannot create an LLC and hire him, or help him to obtain a business visa for legally conducting business in US? What exactly prevents you from helping this individual?

Look, I'm a lawyer, ok? There's no way I can make the guy legal. I know it.

I AM helping him in the one way I can. I pay him well and I help to harbor him.

I’m gonna be LMAO at the future thread where you complain about how uncaring was to catch a Bar Association sanction for this!


Nah. We en that happens, you’ll never post that. Too embarrassing.

I don't practice law anymore. I retired young a long time ago. I'm not concerned.

Obviously you’re retired. Old retired alone and seeking meaning for yourself which you find by playing white savior and posting about to internet strangers all hours of the day.

Yet, here you are, coming back over and over again for more. Physician, heal thyself . . .

I commented on page 3 and came back to read the thread.

Shocked to see you respond to every comment in real time! Who has time for that? You apparently.

Interesting way to spend your days in retirement.

Yet, here you are, again.

Making 2 comments in 4 days is normal.

Posting comments every minute for days is not.

Get a life Gramps.

Look, we all know that every reference to “white savior” comes from you. You’re all over this thread. You’re not fooling anybody. Why are you so upset?

A funny quip that fits because it got under your skin.

Check IPs if you want. Do you know how the internet works?

You are talking to many different people Gramps.

Well, I don’t believe you for a second but if you really think calling me a “white savior” gets under my skin that’s pretty funny. Can’t you tell by now that I don’t care at all what you think? But you clearly care what I think because you keep coming back. That’s what’s funny.

I’m a rich white guys with lots of money that I earned the hard way, I am proudly woke and so are my kids, I’m fluent in Spanish and have lots of experience in Latin America, I hate Trump and the ignorant racist people who worship him, and I’m generous with my money with hardworking undocumented immigrants. Yep, that’s me. It’s awesome.

People who are really happy and awesome don’t make threads about themselves seeking admiration of random strangers on the internet.

Perhaps. But there are posters on here who think someone like this guy are bitter, unhappy, etc. This gent clearly adheres to the adage "to whom much is given, much is expected." He is delighted to be able to help out and does so because he can.

I grew up in a large, working class family, always struggling, etc. We do quite quite well now. I also take pleasure in advocating for the safety net as well as donating to general causes as well as helping people out directly. My parents taught me that we were rich in empathy and being generous om care and time didn't really have a cost. I'm now grateful that I can do even more.

OP here. Yes, this is pretty much it. I very much am a happy man. I started this thread not to seek praise or adulation -- because I don't need it -- but because I am fully aware of my privilege and with everything that's going on right now in the far less privileged immigrant community those of us who support it need to speak up.

I don't buy the "America first" garbage. To me it's always people first.

People first before what? Before the law?

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Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

Why don't you properly hire his/her and petition for their work visa or any other immigration visa? What stops you to do it a legal way if you are such a morally right person?

You know nothing. Under the current law, there is literally no way for him to get legal status. None. You're one of the many who think there's some kind of "line" he can get into. There is none.

Why you cannot create an LLC and hire him, or help him to obtain a business visa for legally conducting business in US? What exactly prevents you from helping this individual?

Look, I'm a lawyer, ok? There's no way I can make the guy legal. I know it.

I AM helping him in the one way I can. I pay him well and I help to harbor him.

I’m gonna be LMAO at the future thread where you complain about how uncaring was to catch a Bar Association sanction for this!


Nah. We en that happens, you’ll never post that. Too embarrassing.

I don't practice law anymore. I retired young a long time ago. I'm not concerned.

Obviously you’re retired. Old retired alone and seeking meaning for yourself which you find by playing white savior and posting about to internet strangers all hours of the day.

Yet, here you are, coming back over and over again for more. Physician, heal thyself . . .

I commented on page 3 and came back to read the thread.

Shocked to see you respond to every comment in real time! Who has time for that? You apparently.

Interesting way to spend your days in retirement.

Yet, here you are, again.

Making 2 comments in 4 days is normal.

Posting comments every minute for days is not.

Get a life Gramps.

Look, we all know that every reference to “white savior” comes from you. You’re all over this thread. You’re not fooling anybody. Why are you so upset?

A funny quip that fits because it got under your skin.

Check IPs if you want. Do you know how the internet works?

You are talking to many different people Gramps.

Well, I don’t believe you for a second but if you really think calling me a “white savior” gets under my skin that’s pretty funny. Can’t you tell by now that I don’t care at all what you think? But you clearly care what I think because you keep coming back. That’s what’s funny.

I’m a rich white guys with lots of money that I earned the hard way, I am proudly woke and so are my kids, I’m fluent in Spanish and have lots of experience in Latin America, I hate Trump and the ignorant racist people who worship him, and I’m generous with my money with hardworking undocumented immigrants. Yep, that’s me. It’s awesome.

People who are really happy and awesome don’t make threads about themselves seeking admiration of random strangers on the internet.

Perhaps. But there are posters on here who think someone like this guy are bitter, unhappy, etc. This gent clearly adheres to the adage "to whom much is given, much is expected." He is delighted to be able to help out and does so because he can.

I grew up in a large, working class family, always struggling, etc. We do quite quite well now. I also take pleasure in advocating for the safety net as well as donating to general causes as well as helping people out directly. My parents taught me that we were rich in empathy and being generous om care and time didn't really have a cost. I'm now grateful that I can do even more.

OP here. Yes, this is pretty much it. I very much am a happy man. I started this thread not to seek praise or adulation -- because I don't need it -- but because I am fully aware of my privilege and with everything that's going on right now in the far less privileged immigrant community those of us who support it need to speak up.

I don't buy the "America first" garbage. To me it's always people first.

You referring to immigrant communities as less privileged is very derogatory and speaks volumes about how you view immigrants. There are immigrants here who are very successful entrepreneurs, lawyers, judges, elective officials, doctors, engineers. Calling them less privileged is very racist.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

And, you are breaking the law.

Indeed. Are you willing to go to jail for years? When ICE comes, are you going to forcibly resist them? Just because you believe something is morally wrong doesn't mean you get to break the law.

I'm not going to jail. That's ridiculous. And ICE isn't allowed on my property without a warrant, and they don't know -- and can't know -- that he comes here to work because I pay cash.

He’s Definitely not pay taxes. Are you paying them?

I've said since the beginning of this thread that I assume he's not paying income taxes -- but that doesn't mean he isn't paying ANY taxes. He's paying sales taxes, etc. And, no, I'm not paying them because I have no obligation to.

As an employer, you do have obligation wither to issue 1099 to your employer, so he can pay taxes on his earnings, or to issue a W-2 form and to withhold and pay his taxes. So you are saying you violating the law?

I'm not his "employer."

You hired him to provide you with services and you are paying him as a contractor, without issuing 1099.

Sigh. I don't have to under the law. I truly, truly don't. But here's the thing. Even if I did have to under the law, he wouldn't want me to and for that reason alone I wouldn't do it. I don't care about little bullshit tax laws. I pay every dime of my own taxes and have never fudged a cent, literally, in my entire life. I've paid hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal income taxes over the years, despite objecting deeply to how much of my tax dollars are (and are not) being spent -- way more than enough to cover whatever pittance this poor guy may owe.

Actually, you do have to do it. Or are you saying your are paying him less than $600 a year? In that case, you don't need to issue 1099, because it is a slavery to pay someone les than $600 per year.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

Why don't you properly hire his/her and petition for their work visa or any other immigration visa? What stops you to do it a legal way if you are such a morally right person?

You know nothing. Under the current law, there is literally no way for him to get legal status. None. You're one of the many who think there's some kind of "line" he can get into. There is none.

Why you cannot create an LLC and hire him, or help him to obtain a business visa for legally conducting business in US? What exactly prevents you from helping this individual?

Look, I'm a lawyer, ok? There's no way I can make the guy legal. I know it.

I AM helping him in the one way I can. I pay him well and I help to harbor him.

I’m gonna be LMAO at the future thread where you complain about how uncaring was to catch a Bar Association sanction for this!


Nah. We en that happens, you’ll never post that. Too embarrassing.

I don't practice law anymore. I retired young a long time ago. I'm not concerned.

Obviously you’re retired. Old retired alone and seeking meaning for yourself which you find by playing white savior and posting about to internet strangers all hours of the day.

Yet, here you are, coming back over and over again for more. Physician, heal thyself . . .

I commented on page 3 and came back to read the thread.

Shocked to see you respond to every comment in real time! Who has time for that? You apparently.

Interesting way to spend your days in retirement.

Yet, here you are, again.

Making 2 comments in 4 days is normal.

Posting comments every minute for days is not.

Get a life Gramps.

Look, we all know that every reference to “white savior” comes from you. You’re all over this thread. You’re not fooling anybody. Why are you so upset?

A funny quip that fits because it got under your skin.

Check IPs if you want. Do you know how the internet works?

You are talking to many different people Gramps.

Well, I don’t believe you for a second but if you really think calling me a “white savior” gets under my skin that’s pretty funny. Can’t you tell by now that I don’t care at all what you think? But you clearly care what I think because you keep coming back. That’s what’s funny.

I’m a rich white guys with lots of money that I earned the hard way, I am proudly woke and so are my kids, I’m fluent in Spanish and have lots of experience in Latin America, I hate Trump and the ignorant racist people who worship him, and I’m generous with my money with hardworking undocumented immigrants. Yep, that’s me. It’s awesome.

People who are really happy and awesome don’t make threads about themselves seeking admiration of random strangers on the internet.

Perhaps. But there are posters on here who think someone like this guy are bitter, unhappy, etc. This gent clearly adheres to the adage "to whom much is given, much is expected." He is delighted to be able to help out and does so because he can.

I grew up in a large, working class family, always struggling, etc. We do quite quite well now. I also take pleasure in advocating for the safety net as well as donating to general causes as well as helping people out directly. My parents taught me that we were rich in empathy and being generous om care and time didn't really have a cost. I'm now grateful that I can do even more.

OP here. Yes, this is pretty much it. I very much am a happy man. I started this thread not to seek praise or adulation -- because I don't need it -- but because I am fully aware of my privilege and with everything that's going on right now in the far less privileged immigrant community those of us who support it need to speak up.

I don't buy the "America first" garbage. To me it's always people first.

You referring to immigrant communities as less privileged is very derogatory and speaks volumes about how you view immigrants. There are immigrants here who are very successful entrepreneurs, lawyers, judges, elective officials, doctors, engineers. Calling them less privileged is very racist.

Doesn't mean they started out privileged.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

And, you are breaking the law.

Indeed. Are you willing to go to jail for years? When ICE comes, are you going to forcibly resist them? Just because you believe something is morally wrong doesn't mean you get to break the law.

I'm not going to jail. That's ridiculous. And ICE isn't allowed on my property without a warrant, and they don't know -- and can't know -- that he comes here to work because I pay cash.

He’s Definitely not pay taxes. Are you paying them?

I've said since the beginning of this thread that I assume he's not paying income taxes -- but that doesn't mean he isn't paying ANY taxes. He's paying sales taxes, etc. And, no, I'm not paying them because I have no obligation to.

As an employer, you do have obligation wither to issue 1099 to your employer, so he can pay taxes on his earnings, or to issue a W-2 form and to withhold and pay his taxes. So you are saying you violating the law?

I'm not his "employer."

You hired him to provide you with services and you are paying him as a contractor, without issuing 1099.

Sigh. I don't have to under the law. I truly, truly don't. But here's the thing. Even if I did have to under the law, he wouldn't want me to and for that reason alone I wouldn't do it. I don't care about little bullshit tax laws. I pay every dime of my own taxes and have never fudged a cent, literally, in my entire life. I've paid hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal income taxes over the years, despite objecting deeply to how much of my tax dollars are (and are not) being spent -- way more than enough to cover whatever pittance this poor guy may owe.

Actually, you do have to do it. Or are you saying your are paying him less than $600 a year? In that case, you don't need to issue 1099, because it is a slavery to pay someone les than $600 per year.

You're wrong, again. That's the threshold for if I'm operating a business and he's assisting me in the course of my business. I'm not, and he's not. He's providing a personal service to me.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

Why don't you properly hire his/her and petition for their work visa or any other immigration visa? What stops you to do it a legal way if you are such a morally right person?

You know nothing. Under the current law, there is literally no way for him to get legal status. None. You're one of the many who think there's some kind of "line" he can get into. There is none.

Why you cannot create an LLC and hire him, or help him to obtain a business visa for legally conducting business in US? What exactly prevents you from helping this individual?

Look, I'm a lawyer, ok? There's no way I can make the guy legal. I know it.

I AM helping him in the one way I can. I pay him well and I help to harbor him.

I’m gonna be LMAO at the future thread where you complain about how uncaring was to catch a Bar Association sanction for this!


Nah. We en that happens, you’ll never post that. Too embarrassing.

I don't practice law anymore. I retired young a long time ago. I'm not concerned.

Obviously you’re retired. Old retired alone and seeking meaning for yourself which you find by playing white savior and posting about to internet strangers all hours of the day.

Yet, here you are, coming back over and over again for more. Physician, heal thyself . . .

I commented on page 3 and came back to read the thread.

Shocked to see you respond to every comment in real time! Who has time for that? You apparently.

Interesting way to spend your days in retirement.

Yet, here you are, again.

Making 2 comments in 4 days is normal.

Posting comments every minute for days is not.

Get a life Gramps.

Look, we all know that every reference to “white savior” comes from you. You’re all over this thread. You’re not fooling anybody. Why are you so upset?

A funny quip that fits because it got under your skin.

Check IPs if you want. Do you know how the internet works?

You are talking to many different people Gramps.

Well, I don’t believe you for a second but if you really think calling me a “white savior” gets under my skin that’s pretty funny. Can’t you tell by now that I don’t care at all what you think? But you clearly care what I think because you keep coming back. That’s what’s funny.

I’m a rich white guys with lots of money that I earned the hard way, I am proudly woke and so are my kids, I’m fluent in Spanish and have lots of experience in Latin America, I hate Trump and the ignorant racist people who worship him, and I’m generous with my money with hardworking undocumented immigrants. Yep, that’s me. It’s awesome.

People who are really happy and awesome don’t make threads about themselves seeking admiration of random strangers on the internet.

Perhaps. But there are posters on here who think someone like this guy are bitter, unhappy, etc. This gent clearly adheres to the adage "to whom much is given, much is expected." He is delighted to be able to help out and does so because he can.

I grew up in a large, working class family, always struggling, etc. We do quite quite well now. I also take pleasure in advocating for the safety net as well as donating to general causes as well as helping people out directly. My parents taught me that we were rich in empathy and being generous om care and time didn't really have a cost. I'm now grateful that I can do even more.

OP here. Yes, this is pretty much it. I very much am a happy man. I started this thread not to seek praise or adulation -- because I don't need it -- but because I am fully aware of my privilege and with everything that's going on right now in the far less privileged immigrant community those of us who support it need to speak up.

I don't buy the "America first" garbage. To me it's always people first.

You referring to immigrant communities as less privileged is very derogatory and speaks volumes about how you view immigrants. There are immigrants here who are very successful entrepreneurs, lawyers, judges, elective officials, doctors, engineers. Calling them less privileged is very racist.

Doesn't mean they started out privileged.

Of course most of them started more privileged as majority of americans, as they immigrated already with college degrees (very often with masters) and with no debt. How is that less privileged?

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Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

And, you are breaking the law.

Indeed. Are you willing to go to jail for years? When ICE comes, are you going to forcibly resist them? Just because you believe something is morally wrong doesn't mean you get to break the law.

I'm not going to jail. That's ridiculous. And ICE isn't allowed on my property without a warrant, and they don't know -- and can't know -- that he comes here to work because I pay cash.

He’s Definitely not pay taxes. Are you paying them?

I've said since the beginning of this thread that I assume he's not paying income taxes -- but that doesn't mean he isn't paying ANY taxes. He's paying sales taxes, etc. And, no, I'm not paying them because I have no obligation to.

As an employer, you do have obligation wither to issue 1099 to your employer, so he can pay taxes on his earnings, or to issue a W-2 form and to withhold and pay his taxes. So you are saying you violating the law?

I'm not his "employer."

You hired him to provide you with services and you are paying him as a contractor, without issuing 1099.

Sigh. I don't have to under the law. I truly, truly don't. But here's the thing. Even if I did have to under the law, he wouldn't want me to and for that reason alone I wouldn't do it. I don't care about little bullshit tax laws. I pay every dime of my own taxes and have never fudged a cent, literally, in my entire life. I've paid hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal income taxes over the years, despite objecting deeply to how much of my tax dollars are (and are not) being spent -- way more than enough to cover whatever pittance this poor guy may owe.

Actually, you do have to do it. Or are you saying your are paying him less than $600 a year? In that case, you don't need to issue 1099, because it is a slavery to pay someone les than $600 per year.

You're wrong, again. That's the threshold for if I'm operating a business and he's assisting me in the course of my business. I'm not, and he's not. He's providing a personal service to me.

Like a prostitute?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

And, you are breaking the law.

Indeed. Are you willing to go to jail for years? When ICE comes, are you going to forcibly resist them? Just because you believe something is morally wrong doesn't mean you get to break the law.

I'm not going to jail. That's ridiculous. And ICE isn't allowed on my property without a warrant, and they don't know -- and can't know -- that he comes here to work because I pay cash.

He’s Definitely not pay taxes. Are you paying them?

I've said since the beginning of this thread that I assume he's not paying income taxes -- but that doesn't mean he isn't paying ANY taxes. He's paying sales taxes, etc. And, no, I'm not paying them because I have no obligation to.

As an employer, you do have obligation wither to issue 1099 to your employer, so he can pay taxes on his earnings, or to issue a W-2 form and to withhold and pay his taxes. So you are saying you violating the law?

I'm not his "employer."

You hired him to provide you with services and you are paying him as a contractor, without issuing 1099.

Sigh. I don't have to under the law. I truly, truly don't. But here's the thing. Even if I did have to under the law, he wouldn't want me to and for that reason alone I wouldn't do it. I don't care about little bullshit tax laws. I pay every dime of my own taxes and have never fudged a cent, literally, in my entire life. I've paid hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal income taxes over the years, despite objecting deeply to how much of my tax dollars are (and are not) being spent -- way more than enough to cover whatever pittance this poor guy may owe.

I am very confused. I thought we want to tax more rich people. You obviously rich, why you trying to pay less? Pay more taxes!

Silly. OP wants the OTHER rich people to pay taxes. Just not him. Do as I say and all that.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

Why don't you properly hire his/her and petition for their work visa or any other immigration visa? What stops you to do it a legal way if you are such a morally right person?

You know nothing. Under the current law, there is literally no way for him to get legal status. None. You're one of the many who think there's some kind of "line" he can get into. There is none.

Why you cannot create an LLC and hire him, or help him to obtain a business visa for legally conducting business in US? What exactly prevents you from helping this individual?

Look, I'm a lawyer, ok? There's no way I can make the guy legal. I know it.

I AM helping him in the one way I can. I pay him well and I help to harbor him.

I’m gonna be LMAO at the future thread where you complain about how uncaring was to catch a Bar Association sanction for this!


Nah. We en that happens, you’ll never post that. Too embarrassing.

I don't practice law anymore. I retired young a long time ago. I'm not concerned.

Obviously you’re retired. Old retired alone and seeking meaning for yourself which you find by playing white savior and posting about to internet strangers all hours of the day.

Yet, here you are, coming back over and over again for more. Physician, heal thyself . . .

I commented on page 3 and came back to read the thread.

Shocked to see you respond to every comment in real time! Who has time for that? You apparently.

Interesting way to spend your days in retirement.

Yet, here you are, again.

Making 2 comments in 4 days is normal.

Posting comments every minute for days is not.

Get a life Gramps.

Look, we all know that every reference to “white savior” comes from you. You’re all over this thread. You’re not fooling anybody. Why are you so upset?

A funny quip that fits because it got under your skin.

Check IPs if you want. Do you know how the internet works?

You are talking to many different people Gramps.

Well, I don’t believe you for a second but if you really think calling me a “white savior” gets under my skin that’s pretty funny. Can’t you tell by now that I don’t care at all what you think? But you clearly care what I think because you keep coming back. That’s what’s funny.

I’m a rich white guys with lots of money that I earned the hard way, I am proudly woke and so are my kids, I’m fluent in Spanish and have lots of experience in Latin America, I hate Trump and the ignorant racist people who worship him, and I’m generous with my money with hardworking undocumented immigrants. Yep, that’s me. It’s awesome.

People who are really happy and awesome don’t make threads about themselves seeking admiration of random strangers on the internet.

Perhaps. But there are posters on here who think someone like this guy are bitter, unhappy, etc. This gent clearly adheres to the adage "to whom much is given, much is expected." He is delighted to be able to help out and does so because he can.

I grew up in a large, working class family, always struggling, etc. We do quite quite well now. I also take pleasure in advocating for the safety net as well as donating to general causes as well as helping people out directly. My parents taught me that we were rich in empathy and being generous om care and time didn't really have a cost. I'm now grateful that I can do even more.

OP here. Yes, this is pretty much it. I very much am a happy man. I started this thread not to seek praise or adulation -- because I don't need it -- but because I am fully aware of my privilege and with everything that's going on right now in the far less privileged immigrant community those of us who support it need to speak up.

I don't buy the "America first" garbage. To me it's always people first.

You referring to immigrant communities as less privileged is very derogatory and speaks volumes about how you view immigrants. There are immigrants here who are very successful entrepreneurs, lawyers, judges, elective officials, doctors, engineers. Calling them less privileged is very racist.

But how could OP live out his final days as if not pretending to be a noble benefactor by paying under the table wages to illegal labor?

His viewing immigrants as less privileged is giving his life meaning and importance.

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Over all of the comments in this thread, OP has given a lot of identifying details. Be careful bud.

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Enjoy the surprise house visit from the feds OP.

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Anonymous wrote:And you decided to post this for bum pats?.

You know how Trump loves to "own the libs?" Well, this lib loves to own the Trumpers. We're out here doing all that we can to undermine all of you fascists.

An elitist who hates his fellow Americans and then wonders why they vote “fascist”. It really is a mystery. Enjoy President Vance in in a little over 3 years…

The right ran with that study that showed people on the left feel affinity and empathy for more distant people while the right feels it on a local, immediate level. This poster is the poster child for that study.

He's not more "distant." He lives here. He may not be documented, but he's here -- and he works hard. So, no, I'm not turning him in or not hiring him just because he's not documented.

I 100 percent do feel less empathy for the lazy "domestic" slobs around here who work half as hard, don't take advantage of any of the opportunities that surround them, and then blame everything on the brown man and vote for Trump.

Maybe, just maybe, if you didn't undercut the economic power of domestic labor those workers could earn a decent wage above board, and then they could live with dignity. They would psychologically "buy into the system" and you would get the industrious, hardworking labor you claim to want. As it is, you whole-heartedly embrace a system that economically devastates the most vulnerable among the American labor force, destroys their communities, perpetuates inequality to your benefit, and then you have the audacity to blame them for the damage done to them and for "not working hard" for the crap wage you are offering. And you seem unable to comprehend why these people are voting "fascist".

Please try to think hard and answer the following question: If a business was providing you the services you want at the quality you want, what price would the business need to charge you to (a) comply with all applicable laws; (b) pay a domestic laborer a salary that matches the economic (purchasing) power of $36/hr to your undocumented laborer; and (c) earn a modest profit margin (8-12%) for the capital behind the business? What would be the consequences to everyone (you, domestic labor, undocumented labor) if that were the market-clearing price of labor?

If you can honestly answer this question, then you have a decent chance at understanding the problem. Nobody is asking you to turn in your undocumented laborer. Nobody is questioning the intentions, nobility or industriousness of your undocumented laborer. Just try to focus on the economic issue. What number do you come out to?

If you really, really want to blow your mind, ask yourself why real wage growth during the first Trump term was so robust relative to other presidencies? Scroll to the bottom if you just want to look at the visual.

https://perc.tamu.edu/blog/2024/02/presidents-real-wages.html

Maybe you want to ask yourself why blue collar real wage growth seems to happen at the start of Trump administrations and not other administrations?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/06/icymi-blue-collar-wage-growth-sees-largest-increase-in-nearly-60-years-under-trump/

Perhaps you prefer some interesting data on what happens to real wage growth at the bottom of the economic spectrum when labor markets get tight (recall, that the pandemic shut down migration at the border in 2020)?

https://www.epi.org/publication/strong-wage-growth-for-low-wage-workers-bucks-the-historic-trend/

Perhaps you think those real wage gains were solely due to the pandemic. What do you think was happening in December of 2019 when Trump had tightened the labor market, including through immigration enforcement? We actually had this amazingly, weird anomalous situation where rank-and-file workers were registering stronger wage gains than the bosses. Imagine that!

https://www.wsj.com/articles/rank-and-file-workers-get-bigger-raises-11577442600?mod=hp_lead_pos1

This is an economic issue. But, like you keep saying, you have no moral or legal obligation of solidarity with your fellow Americans and the domestic, legal workforce of this country. Screw them and laugh while you "own" them, right?

Trump only cares about himself. I'm in a deeply red state and he's made no difference in the economic life of the working class here. At all. They all vote for him, and they all vote red at the state and local level as well. In the primary races all the ads talked about was which red candidate hated transgendered folks the most and would segregate the bathrooms more rigidly.

In the middle of the pandemic I solicited bids to replace the roof on my horse stables. Once youngish guy, maybe 40, could barely make it up from front steps to talk things over with me. He told me he was still recovering from a terrible case of Covid. I asked whether he was vaccinated. Nope, he said, he never got vaccinated because "nobody I know has." This is the mindset that I deal with every day around here.

Nice job evading the core of the issue. Trump's motives are only marginally relevant. Yes Donald Trump is a narcissist who only cares about himself. It does not change the fact that (whether intended or not) his policies tighten up the domestic labor market and result in real wage gains for American workers, especially in the bottom half of the income distribution. The answer to reducing inequality and giving labor more bargaining power is so mind-numbingly obvious: tighten up the labor market by enforcing immigration laws. But you would rather sacrifice the American worker than admit that for whatever reason, Trump is right on this issue (at least economically).

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Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

Why don't you properly hire his/her and petition for their work visa or any other immigration visa? What stops you to do it a legal way if you are such a morally right person?

You know nothing. Under the current law, there is literally no way for him to get legal status. None. You're one of the many who think there's some kind of "line" he can get into. There is none.

Why you cannot create an LLC and hire him, or help him to obtain a business visa for legally conducting business in US? What exactly prevents you from helping this individual?

Look, I'm a lawyer, ok? There's no way I can make the guy legal. I know it.

I AM helping him in the one way I can. I pay him well and I help to harbor him.

I’m gonna be LMAO at the future thread where you complain about how uncaring was to catch a Bar Association sanction for this!


Nah. We en that happens, you’ll never post that. Too embarrassing.

I don't practice law anymore. I retired young a long time ago. I'm not concerned.

Obviously you’re retired. Old retired alone and seeking meaning for yourself which you find by playing white savior and posting about to internet strangers all hours of the day.

Yet, here you are, coming back over and over again for more. Physician, heal thyself . . .

I commented on page 3 and came back to read the thread.

Shocked to see you respond to every comment in real time! Who has time for that? You apparently.

Interesting way to spend your days in retirement.

Yet, here you are, again.

Making 2 comments in 4 days is normal.

Posting comments every minute for days is not.

Get a life Gramps.

Look, we all know that every reference to “white savior” comes from you. You’re all over this thread. You’re not fooling anybody. Why are you so upset?

A funny quip that fits because it got under your skin.

Check IPs if you want. Do you know how the internet works?

You are talking to many different people Gramps.

Well, I don’t believe you for a second but if you really think calling me a “white savior” gets under my skin that’s pretty funny. Can’t you tell by now that I don’t care at all what you think? But you clearly care what I think because you keep coming back. That’s what’s funny.

I’m a rich white guys with lots of money that I earned the hard way, I am proudly woke and so are my kids, I’m fluent in Spanish and have lots of experience in Latin America, I hate Trump and the ignorant racist people who worship him, and I’m generous with my money with hardworking undocumented immigrants. Yep, that’s me. It’s awesome.

People who are really happy and awesome don’t make threads about themselves seeking admiration of random strangers on the internet.

Perhaps. But there are posters on here who think someone like this guy are bitter, unhappy, etc. This gent clearly adheres to the adage "to whom much is given, much is expected." He is delighted to be able to help out and does so because he can.

I grew up in a large, working class family, always struggling, etc. We do quite quite well now. I also take pleasure in advocating for the safety net as well as donating to general causes as well as helping people out directly. My parents taught me that we were rich in empathy and being generous om care and time didn't really have a cost. I'm now grateful that I can do even more.

OP here. Yes, this is pretty much it. I very much am a happy man. I started this thread not to seek praise or adulation -- because I don't need it -- but because I am fully aware of my privilege and with everything that's going on right now in the far less privileged immigrant community those of us who support it need to speak up.

I don't buy the "America first" garbage. To me it's always people first.

You are so full of it and posturing. This can be demonstrated with one simple question: As a lawyer did you ever outsource legal work or hire for legal work some unlicensed worker who was a citizen of and located in India, China or, your personal favorite, a Latin American country?

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I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

Why don't you properly hire his/her and petition for their work visa or any other immigration visa? What stops you to do it a legal way if you are such a morally right person?

You know nothing. Under the current law, there is literally no way for him to get legal status. None. You're one of the many who think there's some kind of "line" he can get into. There is none.

Why you cannot create an LLC and hire him, or help him to obtain a business visa for legally conducting business in US? What exactly prevents you from helping this individual?

Look, I'm a lawyer, ok? There's no way I can make the guy legal. I know it.

I AM helping him in the one way I can. I pay him well and I help to harbor him.

I’m gonna be LMAO at the future thread where you complain about how uncaring was to catch a Bar Association sanction for this!


Nah. We en that happens, you’ll never post that. Too embarrassing.

I don't practice law anymore. I retired young a long time ago. I'm not concerned.

Obviously you’re retired. Old retired alone and seeking meaning for yourself which you find by playing white savior and posting about to internet strangers all hours of the day.

Yet, here you are, coming back over and over again for more. Physician, heal thyself . . .

I commented on page 3 and came back to read the thread.

Shocked to see you respond to every comment in real time! Who has time for that? You apparently.

Interesting way to spend your days in retirement.

Yet, here you are, again.

Making 2 comments in 4 days is normal.

Posting comments every minute for days is not.

Get a life Gramps.

Look, we all know that every reference to “white savior” comes from you. You’re all over this thread. You’re not fooling anybody. Why are you so upset?

A funny quip that fits because it got under your skin.

Check IPs if you want. Do you know how the internet works?

You are talking to many different people Gramps.

Well, I don’t believe you for a second but if you really think calling me a “white savior” gets under my skin that’s pretty funny. Can’t you tell by now that I don’t care at all what you think? But you clearly care what I think because you keep coming back. That’s what’s funny.

I’m a rich white guys with lots of money that I earned the hard way, I am proudly woke and so are my kids, I’m fluent in Spanish and have lots of experience in Latin America, I hate Trump and the ignorant racist people who worship him, and I’m generous with my money with hardworking undocumented immigrants. Yep, that’s me. It’s awesome.

People who are really happy and awesome don’t make threads about themselves seeking admiration of random strangers on the internet.

Perhaps. But there are posters on here who think someone like this guy are bitter, unhappy, etc. This gent clearly adheres to the adage "to whom much is given, much is expected." He is delighted to be able to help out and does so because he can.

I grew up in a large, working class family, always struggling, etc. We do quite quite well now. I also take pleasure in advocating for the safety net as well as donating to general causes as well as helping people out directly. My parents taught me that we were rich in empathy and being generous om care and time didn't really have a cost. I'm now grateful that I can do even more.

OP here. Yes, this is pretty much it. I very much am a happy man. I started this thread not to seek praise or adulation -- because I don't need it -- but because I am fully aware of my privilege and with everything that's going on right now in the far less privileged immigrant community those of us who support it need to speak up.

I don't buy the "America first" garbage. To me it's always people first.

You are so full of it and posturing. This can be demonstrated with one simple question: As a lawyer did you ever outsource legal work or hire for legal work some unlicensed worker who was a citizen of and located in India, China or, your personal favorite, a Latin American country?

Could you imagine Indian or Chinese officials. "We need more immigrants"?

Borders for me not for thee.

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I assume at the end of the day your illegal servant goes back across town away from your home to live amongst those who you don't respect from the US. While you have those "good school" economic areas. How can you force him to live amongst us?

So long as he doesn't try to send his kid across town to your district. Now that's a border.