MCPS is no longer a desirable school district

[Anonymous]

The number if paid trolls by Cato in this thread is not zero. You can tell by the way their complaints repeat.

Whatever issues mcps has, we've reached a point in virtual culture where discourse is dominated by paid shill, and it happens as much in some local districts as upon the national stage.

[Anonymous]

The MS curriculum (non magnet) is abysmal. The foreign language (frequently taught by non-native speakers who don't actually speak the language), science, and English are a disaster. If you're math tracked, you can get in a good class with a good teacher.

Those of us who have been around a while (hint, working in the schools and as parents) have seen and experienced the changes, and it's not good at any level, ES, MS, HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The MS curriculum (non magnet) is abysmal. The foreign language (frequently taught by non-native speakers who don't actually speak the language), science, and English are a disaster. If you're math tracked, you can get in a good class with a good teacher.

Those of us who have been around a while (hint, working in the schools and as parents) have seen and experienced the changes, and it's not good at any level, ES, MS, HS.

It could be better, but compensating for this doesn't take much. Try encouraging your child to read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The number if paid trolls by Cato in this thread is not zero. You can tell by the way their complaints repeat.

Whatever issues mcps has, we've reached a point in virtual culture where discourse is dominated by paid shill, and it happens as much in some local districts as upon the national stage.

You're a loon

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The MS curriculum (non magnet) is abysmal. The foreign language (frequently taught by non-native speakers who don't actually speak the language), science, and English are a disaster. If you're math tracked, you can get in a good class with a good teacher.

Those of us who have been around a while (hint, working in the schools and as parents) have seen and experienced the changes, and it's not good at any level, ES, MS, HS.

It could be better, but compensating for this doesn't take much. Try encouraging your child to read.

The fact that you believe a parent is as good as a teacher for most subjects days all we need to know about the value of your opinion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At Pyle there is only Honors English and special ed English. They claimed they had the higher history class, but they didn’t. Transcripts said one thing, class was mixed. The principal didn’t care, all
In the name of equity.

Not disputing but noting that is one school of 213. And of course there are others. The challenge is that folks generalize the entire district as being bad which is not correct, and it does real damage.

Conversely, folks generalize the district as being "good," when that doesn't match the lived experience for many in the district. Maybe we should all agree that MCPS is mixed at best. With some schools being good and some being bad.

Not really accurate either. The truth is people get out of it what they put into it. Plenty of MCPS kids get into top schools every year.

On what basis are you claiming this? People's lived experiences are real. Not made up. But you're saying they're illegitimate. Why?

NP. On the basis that you will find kids in EVERY school who are having a good experience and kids who are not. The reasons why a kid may have a good experience over another is varied. At my kid's Germantown high school, lots of kids are doing well but a good portion are not simply because these kids don't care and don't have parents with high expectations of them. Doesn't mean the school is bad. The teachers are great and helpful; and the school provides plenty of opportunities for students. I would say even more so than neighboring schools. Kids who take advantage of those opportunities do well and do end up at good colleges/universities but those who don't care, who don't show up for school, don't. There's only so much that MCPS can do. Do you expect them to knock at a student's door and drag them out of bed to go to school?

You are conflating so many things here I don't even know where to begin but let's address two things:

1. A school where a good portion of kids fail or skip without consequence is probably not a good school. Schools have an obligation to pursue kids who are chronically absent. Now the punitive way is to use the might of the law against them by charging parents and kids who are truant. MCPS has decided to not be aggressive or punitive in this manner so they don't. But let's be clear, that's an active choice on the part of the county and school district. Instead, MCPS has funded Pupil Personnel Workers (PPW) and Parent Community Coordinators (PCC) whose jobs it is to make sure kids show up to school and do well. So yes, it actually is MCPS's fault if they don't, because they have decided to fund positions to make sure they do.

2. You dismissed people's claims that MCPS schools are mixed, with some being good and some being bad, by making an unsubstantiated claim that all of the teachers in your kids' high school are "great." So you're throwing out your opinion to trump someone else's. Why is yours more credible than the one that you assert to be false?

You're clearly a troll.
You know you can always move, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The number if paid trolls by Cato in this thread is not zero. You can tell by the way their complaints repeat.

Whatever issues mcps has, we've reached a point in virtual culture where discourse is dominated by paid shill, and it happens as much in some local districts as upon the national stage.

You're a loon

DP but PP is correct. It's a known fact that there are/were paid trolls by Cato Institute trolling the MCPS forum.

[Anonymous]

The reason MCPS gets so much hate on this board is because it continually wishes to be considered in top shelf of public school districts - Boston suburbs, DOD schools - and it’s a joke!

But god love you people - when facts aren’t on your side you argue the law. When law is on your side you argue the facts.

You are barely 5th in Maryland. That’s what we are all on about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reason MCPS gets so much hate on this board is because it continually wishes to be considered in top shelf of public school districts - Boston suburbs, DOD schools - and it’s a joke!

But god love you people - when facts aren’t on your side you argue the law. When law is on your side you argue the facts.

You are barely 5th in Maryland. That’s what we are all on about.

Hmmm. Link? Majority of the top 10 schools in Maryland are MCPS. Top school system in MD is Howard. Second is MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reason MCPS gets so much hate on this board is because it continually wishes to be considered in top shelf of public school districts - Boston suburbs, DOD schools - and it’s a joke!

But god love you people - when facts aren’t on your side you argue the law. When law is on your side you argue the facts.

You are barely 5th in Maryland. That’s what we are all on about.

When the school districts can muster at 20,000 students, then we will talk.
Idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many of you know the size of your kids’ classes, before the announcement of increases. Last year our Pyle 6th grader had 34 in English. And just as many in history. DC explained that they never discussed the books, too many discipline problems, a lot of worksheets and filling out mad libs style essays. That’s not an education. A lot of ostriches here.

Have you brought that up with the teacher, English team , principal? Even your PTA? This may not be everyone’s experience. Which is part of the problem, consistency across school and district.

But even when people tell their experiences with MCPS, other posters here insist we're lying or exaggerating, because they refuse to break up with the "MCPS is great" mythology that they're wedded to.

It's because they work for mcps. I haven't met a parent who is thrilled with the education in 6 or so years. Early elementary everyone is rosey but come late elementary and above, people know what's going on. Most won't speak up while their larla is still at the schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reason MCPS gets so much hate on this board is because it continually wishes to be considered in top shelf of public school districts - Boston suburbs, DOD schools - and it’s a joke!

But god love you people - when facts aren’t on your side you argue the law. When law is on your side you argue the facts.

You are barely 5th in Maryland. That’s what we are all on about.

Hmmm. Link? Majority of the top 10 schools in Maryland are MCPS. Top school system in MD is Howard. Second is MCPS.

The top school system in DCUM mind is Howard, but top school system irl, academically is MCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many of you know the size of your kids’ classes, before the announcement of increases. Last year our Pyle 6th grader had 34 in English. And just as many in history. DC explained that they never discussed the books, too many discipline problems, a lot of worksheets and filling out mad libs style essays. That’s not an education. A lot of ostriches here.

Have you brought that up with the teacher, English team , principal? Even your PTA? This may not be everyone’s experience. Which is part of the problem, consistency across school and district.

But even when people tell their experiences with MCPS, other posters here insist we're lying or exaggerating, because they refuse to break up with the "MCPS is great" mythology that they're wedded to.

It's because they work for mcps. I haven't met a parent who is thrilled with the education in 6 or so years. Early elementary everyone is rosey but come late elementary and above, people know what's going on. Most won't speak up while their larla is still at the schools.

You are obviously posting from Moscow and know
no one in MoCo, because over 80% of MoCo residents are happy with MCPS, and that is after the pandemic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many of you know the size of your kids’ classes, before the announcement of increases. Last year our Pyle 6th grader had 34 in English. And just as many in history. DC explained that they never discussed the books, too many discipline problems, a lot of worksheets and filling out mad libs style essays. That’s not an education. A lot of ostriches here.

Have you brought that up with the teacher, English team , principal? Even your PTA? This may not be everyone’s experience. Which is part of the problem, consistency across school and district.

But even when people tell their experiences with MCPS, other posters here insist we're lying or exaggerating, because they refuse to break up with the "MCPS is great" mythology that they're wedded to.

It's because they work for mcps. I haven't met a parent who is thrilled with the education in 6 or so years. Early elementary everyone is rosey but come late elementary and above, people know what's going on. Most won't speak up while their larla is still at the schools.

It's pretty convenient that everyone agrees with you AND they're unwilling to say that they agree with you, so no matter what people say they're on your side.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many of you know the size of your kids’ classes, before the announcement of increases. Last year our Pyle 6th grader had 34 in English. And just as many in history. DC explained that they never discussed the books, too many discipline problems, a lot of worksheets and filling out mad libs style essays. That’s not an education. A lot of ostriches here.

Have you brought that up with the teacher, English team , principal? Even your PTA? This may not be everyone’s experience. Which is part of the problem, consistency across school and district.

But even when people tell their experiences with MCPS, other posters here insist we're lying or exaggerating, because they refuse to break up with the "MCPS is great" mythology that they're wedded to.

It's because they work for mcps. I haven't met a parent who is thrilled with the education in 6 or so years. Early elementary everyone is rosey but come late elementary and above, people know what's going on. Most won't speak up while their larla is still at the schools.

Ok you keep thinking that. Seems that some people want everyone to think like them.