Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

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Anonymous wrote:For me, the one thing that makes Connecticut Ave such a bad idea for bikes lanes is that it is the gateway for millions of tourists each year. Most of whom are not familiar with DC roads nor used to driving in any city. So to mix those tens of thousands of tourist cars each year with a project that will induce thousands of new cyclists each day seems like a total death wish. For that reason Connecticut Ave is fairly unique as compared to other roads where this has been attempted. It’s just a really bad idea.

Think of how much better it would be if the tourists were not driving cars but on other modes of transportation? You are making the argument FOR bike lanes, thank you.

The people who drive to the zoo are most definitely not interested in participating in transit lifestyle you covet.

Lots of tourists would like to take helicopter tours of the mall as well, but no one in the federal government has felt the need to alter the city's airspace regulations to cater to such preferences. DC is not Disneyland and city policies must first serve the residents who have to traverse city streets every day.

I have yet to meet a visitor who would think a helicopter tour of DC is the best way to the the city. A volcano in Hawaii? Sure. But not DC. Nice strawman, though.

I’m really curious as to how this comes up in your conversations with DC visitors. Do you also discuss with them whether they’d like to travel by submarine to China or hyperloop to Chicago?

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Anonymous wrote:For me, the one thing that makes Connecticut Ave such a bad idea for bikes lanes is that it is the gateway for millions of tourists each year. Most of whom are not familiar with DC roads nor used to driving in any city. So to mix those tens of thousands of tourist cars each year with a project that will induce thousands of new cyclists each day seems like a total death wish. For that reason Connecticut Ave is fairly unique as compared to other roads where this has been attempted. It’s just a really bad idea.

Think of how much better it would be if the tourists were not driving cars but on other modes of transportation? You are making the argument FOR bike lanes, thank you.

The people who drive to the zoo are most definitely not interested in participating in transit lifestyle you covet.

That's silly. Transit isn't a lifestyle, it's transportation. Would you say you participate in car lifestyle?

Yes.

You participate in a car lifestyle?! I'm so sorry.

Appreciate your concern, but I enjoy my car lifestyle!!

I used to enjoy my smoking inside at restaurants lifestyle, but the government doesn't have an obligation to legislate around things that are bad for people

Not having a tax base is bad for people.

Governments once made a lot of revenue from tobacco taxes. Thankfully that didn’t dissuade legislators from putting in place the measures that have enabled people to live healthier lifestyles.

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Anonymous wrote:For me, the one thing that makes Connecticut Ave such a bad idea for bikes lanes is that it is the gateway for millions of tourists each year. Most of whom are not familiar with DC roads nor used to driving in any city. So to mix those tens of thousands of tourist cars each year with a project that will induce thousands of new cyclists each day seems like a total death wish. For that reason Connecticut Ave is fairly unique as compared to other roads where this has been attempted. It’s just a really bad idea.

Think of how much better it would be if the tourists were not driving cars but on other modes of transportation? You are making the argument FOR bike lanes, thank you.

The people who drive to the zoo are most definitely not interested in participating in transit lifestyle you covet.

That's silly. Transit isn't a lifestyle, it's transportation. Would you say you participate in car lifestyle?

Yes.

You participate in a car lifestyle?! I'm so sorry.

Appreciate your concern, but I enjoy my car lifestyle!!

I used to enjoy my smoking inside at restaurants lifestyle, but the government doesn't have an obligation to legislate around things that are bad for people

Not having a tax base is bad for people.

Governments once made a lot of revenue from tobacco taxes. Thankfully that didn’t dissuade legislators from putting in place the measures that have enabled people to live healthier lifestyles.

Those measures were to both increase tobacco taxes and to require tobacco companies to effectively pay an annual dividend to states like they were shareholders.

It all comes together though because you’re spending your life arguing about some fantasy. DDOT listening to these very same arguments for a decade about Connecticut Ave and said no. I’m not sure why you are wasting your time arguing to death about something that is not going to happen in the foreseeable future but it’s both kind of sad and kind of funny.

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Anonymous wrote:Good job making sure Connecticut will never be changed from where it stands now.

Never underestimate how profoundly dumb Charles Allen is as a politician. He should be recalled for that alone.

+1. This isn’t the first time Charles Allen went against the advice of the police. How’d the last time end up?

The Police Union is not the same as MPD.

Wut are you prattling about now?

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Anonymous wrote:For me, the one thing that makes Connecticut Ave such a bad idea for bikes lanes is that it is the gateway for millions of tourists each year. Most of whom are not familiar with DC roads nor used to driving in any city. So to mix those tens of thousands of tourist cars each year with a project that will induce thousands of new cyclists each day seems like a total death wish. For that reason Connecticut Ave is fairly unique as compared to other roads where this has been attempted. It’s just a really bad idea.

Think of how much better it would be if the tourists were not driving cars but on other modes of transportation? You are making the argument FOR bike lanes, thank you.

The people who drive to the zoo are most definitely not interested in participating in transit lifestyle you covet.

That's silly. Transit isn't a lifestyle, it's transportation. Would you say you participate in car lifestyle?

Yes.

You participate in a car lifestyle?! I'm so sorry.

Appreciate your concern, but I enjoy my car lifestyle!!

I used to enjoy my smoking inside at restaurants lifestyle, but the government doesn't have an obligation to legislate around things that are bad for people

Not having a tax base is bad for people.

Governments once made a lot of revenue from tobacco taxes. Thankfully that didn’t dissuade legislators from putting in place the measures that have enabled people to live healthier lifestyles.

Those measures were to both increase tobacco taxes and to require tobacco companies to effectively pay an annual dividend to states like they were shareholders.

It all comes together though because you’re spending your life arguing about some fantasy. DDOT listening to these very same arguments for a decade about Connecticut Ave and said no. I’m not sure why you are wasting your time arguing to death about something that is not going to happen in the foreseeable future but it’s both kind of sad and kind of funny.

DDOT say yes. As did almost every elected body and the elected councilmember. Yet, at the behest of corporate interests wanting to wind the clock back to January 2020, Bowser then flipped flopped. Thankfully DC is not an elective dictatorship and has checks and balances against the capriciousness of the executive.

You also miss the point completely about smoking. If government officials wanted to keep the tobacco taxes rolling in, they were perfectly free and able to not make it impossible to not smoke in almost any confined space out of the home. But, no, they did what was in the best interests of the population. Transportation policy will do likewise.

It'd kind of sad and kind of funny to encounter someone so beholden to a Tomorrowland-esque "car lifestyle" fantasy while ignoring the damage done to them by that which they love so much.

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Anonymous wrote:For me, the one thing that makes Connecticut Ave such a bad idea for bikes lanes is that it is the gateway for millions of tourists each year. Most of whom are not familiar with DC roads nor used to driving in any city. So to mix those tens of thousands of tourist cars each year with a project that will induce thousands of new cyclists each day seems like a total death wish. For that reason Connecticut Ave is fairly unique as compared to other roads where this has been attempted. It’s just a really bad idea.

Think of how much better it would be if the tourists were not driving cars but on other modes of transportation? You are making the argument FOR bike lanes, thank you.

The people who drive to the zoo are most definitely not interested in participating in transit lifestyle you covet.

Lots of tourists would like to take helicopter tours of the mall as well, but no one in the federal government has felt the need to alter the city's airspace regulations to cater to such preferences. DC is not Disneyland and city policies must first serve the residents who have to traverse city streets every day.

I have yet to meet a visitor who would think a helicopter tour of DC is the best way to the the city. A volcano in Hawaii? Sure. But not DC. Nice strawman, though.

I’m really curious as to how this comes up in your conversations with DC visitors. Do you also discuss with them whether they’d like to travel by submarine to China or hyperloop to Chicago?

No, because there is no hyperloop and a submarine to China is not really feasible.

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Anonymous wrote:For me, the one thing that makes Connecticut Ave such a bad idea for bikes lanes is that it is the gateway for millions of tourists each year. Most of whom are not familiar with DC roads nor used to driving in any city. So to mix those tens of thousands of tourist cars each year with a project that will induce thousands of new cyclists each day seems like a total death wish. For that reason Connecticut Ave is fairly unique as compared to other roads where this has been attempted. It’s just a really bad idea.

Think of how much better it would be if the tourists were not driving cars but on other modes of transportation? You are making the argument FOR bike lanes, thank you.

The people who drive to the zoo are most definitely not interested in participating in transit lifestyle you covet.

That's silly. Transit isn't a lifestyle, it's transportation. Would you say you participate in car lifestyle?

Yes.

You participate in a car lifestyle?! I'm so sorry.

Appreciate your concern, but I enjoy my car lifestyle!!

I used to enjoy my smoking inside at restaurants lifestyle, but the government doesn't have an obligation to legislate around things that are bad for people

Not having a tax base is bad for people.

Governments once made a lot of revenue from tobacco taxes. Thankfully that didn’t dissuade legislators from putting in place the measures that have enabled people to live healthier lifestyles.

Those measures were to both increase tobacco taxes and to require tobacco companies to effectively pay an annual dividend to states like they were shareholders.

It all comes together though because you’re spending your life arguing about some fantasy. DDOT listening to these very same arguments for a decade about Connecticut Ave and said no. I’m not sure why you are wasting your time arguing to death about something that is not going to happen in the foreseeable future but it’s both kind of sad and kind of funny.

DDOT didn't say no.

The Mayor said no, because she listened to a lot of BS and lies from a bunch of entitled old white people who cannot envision a life without cars.

The majority of the people want the bike lanes, and the science and economics back them up.

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Anonymous wrote:For me, the one thing that makes Connecticut Ave such a bad idea for bikes lanes is that it is the gateway for millions of tourists each year. Most of whom are not familiar with DC roads nor used to driving in any city. So to mix those tens of thousands of tourist cars each year with a project that will induce thousands of new cyclists each day seems like a total death wish. For that reason Connecticut Ave is fairly unique as compared to other roads where this has been attempted. It’s just a really bad idea.

Think of how much better it would be if the tourists were not driving cars but on other modes of transportation? You are making the argument FOR bike lanes, thank you.

The people who drive to the zoo are most definitely not interested in participating in transit lifestyle you covet.

That's silly. Transit isn't a lifestyle, it's transportation. Would you say you participate in car lifestyle?

Yes.

You participate in a car lifestyle?! I'm so sorry.

Appreciate your concern, but I enjoy my car lifestyle!!

I used to enjoy my smoking inside at restaurants lifestyle, but the government doesn't have an obligation to legislate around things that are bad for people

Not having a tax base is bad for people.

Governments once made a lot of revenue from tobacco taxes. Thankfully that didn’t dissuade legislators from putting in place the measures that have enabled people to live healthier lifestyles.

Those measures were to both increase tobacco taxes and to require tobacco companies to effectively pay an annual dividend to states like they were shareholders.

It all comes together though because you’re spending your life arguing about some fantasy. DDOT listening to these very same arguments for a decade about Connecticut Ave and said no. I’m not sure why you are wasting your time arguing to death about something that is not going to happen in the foreseeable future but it’s both kind of sad and kind of funny.

DDOT didn't say no.

The Mayor said no, because she listened to a lot of BS and lies from a bunch of entitled old white people who cannot envision a life without cars.

The majority of the people want the bike lanes, and the science and economics back them up.

The mayor said no. The police said no. The business community said no. Thousands of neighbors said no. And DDOT said it had no idea how a safety project got high jacked and became a bike lane project.

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Anonymous wrote:For me, the one thing that makes Connecticut Ave such a bad idea for bikes lanes is that it is the gateway for millions of tourists each year. Most of whom are not familiar with DC roads nor used to driving in any city. So to mix those tens of thousands of tourist cars each year with a project that will induce thousands of new cyclists each day seems like a total death wish. For that reason Connecticut Ave is fairly unique as compared to other roads where this has been attempted. It’s just a really bad idea.

Think of how much better it would be if the tourists were not driving cars but on other modes of transportation? You are making the argument FOR bike lanes, thank you.

The people who drive to the zoo are most definitely not interested in participating in transit lifestyle you covet.

That's silly. Transit isn't a lifestyle, it's transportation. Would you say you participate in car lifestyle?

Yes.

You participate in a car lifestyle?! I'm so sorry.

Appreciate your concern, but I enjoy my car lifestyle!!

I used to enjoy my smoking inside at restaurants lifestyle, but the government doesn't have an obligation to legislate around things that are bad for people

Not having a tax base is bad for people.

Governments once made a lot of revenue from tobacco taxes. Thankfully that didn’t dissuade legislators from putting in place the measures that have enabled people to live healthier lifestyles.

Those measures were to both increase tobacco taxes and to require tobacco companies to effectively pay an annual dividend to states like they were shareholders.

It all comes together though because you’re spending your life arguing about some fantasy. DDOT listening to these very same arguments for a decade about Connecticut Ave and said no. I’m not sure why you are wasting your time arguing to death about something that is not going to happen in the foreseeable future but it’s both kind of sad and kind of funny.

DDOT didn't say no.

The Mayor said no, because she listened to a lot of BS and lies from a bunch of entitled old white people who cannot envision a life without cars.

The majority of the people want the bike lanes, and the science and economics back them up.

You’re disconnected from objective reality.

The DDOT director testified before the Council and stated the position of the agency. She explained and explicitly said that this was never supposed to be a bike lane project. DDOT works for the mayor. So the decisions of DDOT reflect the decision of the mayor. As for the opinion of the “majority” of the people, they overwhelmingly voted for the mayor.

What are you doing arguing to death for days on end about something that’s over? Do you not understand how crazy that is?

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Anonymous wrote:For me, the one thing that makes Connecticut Ave such a bad idea for bikes lanes is that it is the gateway for millions of tourists each year. Most of whom are not familiar with DC roads nor used to driving in any city. So to mix those tens of thousands of tourist cars each year with a project that will induce thousands of new cyclists each day seems like a total death wish. For that reason Connecticut Ave is fairly unique as compared to other roads where this has been attempted. It’s just a really bad idea.

Think of how much better it would be if the tourists were not driving cars but on other modes of transportation? You are making the argument FOR bike lanes, thank you.

The people who drive to the zoo are most definitely not interested in participating in transit lifestyle you covet.

That's silly. Transit isn't a lifestyle, it's transportation. Would you say you participate in car lifestyle?

Yes.

You participate in a car lifestyle?! I'm so sorry.

Appreciate your concern, but I enjoy my car lifestyle!!

I used to enjoy my smoking inside at restaurants lifestyle, but the government doesn't have an obligation to legislate around things that are bad for people

Not having a tax base is bad for people.

Governments once made a lot of revenue from tobacco taxes. Thankfully that didn’t dissuade legislators from putting in place the measures that have enabled people to live healthier lifestyles.

Those measures were to both increase tobacco taxes and to require tobacco companies to effectively pay an annual dividend to states like they were shareholders.

It all comes together though because you’re spending your life arguing about some fantasy. DDOT listening to these very same arguments for a decade about Connecticut Ave and said no. I’m not sure why you are wasting your time arguing to death about something that is not going to happen in the foreseeable future but it’s both kind of sad and kind of funny.

DDOT didn't say no.

The Mayor said no, because she listened to a lot of BS and lies from a bunch of entitled old white people who cannot envision a life without cars.

The majority of the people want the bike lanes, and the science and economics back them up.

The mayor said no. The police said no. The business community said no. Thousands of neighbors said no. And DDOT said it had no idea how a safety project got high jacked and became a bike lane project.

All of the elected officials, from the Mayor to the current and former Councilmemners and 26 out of 28 ANC Commissioners on the Avenue all said yes. Thousands of residents have signed the petition in short order - a few weeks, almost double what the opponents gathered in two years. SOME businesses have said no. Others support it.

The Mayor only changed her mind because people like you lied to the POlice Union and to the businesses about the numbers and the potential impact. For some reason, these otherwise smart people ignored the science behind traffic engineering and planning and the economics associated with the impact of bike infrastructure on businesses. Fortunately, the Councilmembers actually read the studies and talked to the engineers to better understand the topic firsthand.

They are simply protecting District tax dollars to ensure the money goes to solutions that address problems for as many residents as possible. That includes cyclists within the transportation mix.

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Anonymous wrote:For me, the one thing that makes Connecticut Ave such a bad idea for bikes lanes is that it is the gateway for millions of tourists each year. Most of whom are not familiar with DC roads nor used to driving in any city. So to mix those tens of thousands of tourist cars each year with a project that will induce thousands of new cyclists each day seems like a total death wish. For that reason Connecticut Ave is fairly unique as compared to other roads where this has been attempted. It’s just a really bad idea.

Think of how much better it would be if the tourists were not driving cars but on other modes of transportation? You are making the argument FOR bike lanes, thank you.

The people who drive to the zoo are most definitely not interested in participating in transit lifestyle you covet.

That's silly. Transit isn't a lifestyle, it's transportation. Would you say you participate in car lifestyle?

Yes.

You participate in a car lifestyle?! I'm so sorry.

Appreciate your concern, but I enjoy my car lifestyle!!

I used to enjoy my smoking inside at restaurants lifestyle, but the government doesn't have an obligation to legislate around things that are bad for people

Not having a tax base is bad for people.

Governments once made a lot of revenue from tobacco taxes. Thankfully that didn’t dissuade legislators from putting in place the measures that have enabled people to live healthier lifestyles.

Those measures were to both increase tobacco taxes and to require tobacco companies to effectively pay an annual dividend to states like they were shareholders.

It all comes together though because you’re spending your life arguing about some fantasy. DDOT listening to these very same arguments for a decade about Connecticut Ave and said no. I’m not sure why you are wasting your time arguing to death about something that is not going to happen in the foreseeable future but it’s both kind of sad and kind of funny.

DDOT didn't say no.

The Mayor said no, because she listened to a lot of BS and lies from a bunch of entitled old white people who cannot envision a life without cars.

The majority of the people want the bike lanes, and the science and economics back them up.

You’re disconnected from objective reality.

The DDOT director testified before the Council and stated the position of the agency. She explained and explicitly said that this was never supposed to be a bike lane project. DDOT works for the mayor. So the decisions of DDOT reflect the decision of the mayor. As for the opinion of the “majority” of the people, they overwhelmingly voted for the mayor.

What are you doing arguing to death for days on end about something that’s over? Do you not understand how crazy that is?

You mean the interim Director who has no experience or knowledge of transportation engineering or transportation planning, who clearly had no knowledge of MoveDC or any of the other plans and stakeholder engagement that has taken place across this and other projects across the city? Ya, we don't need another ignorant mayoral lackey in this position. She had no idea what she was talking about and was completely out of her elements.

In terms of the "majority" of the people, yes, the Mayor ran on a platform of VisionZero and SutainableDC2.0, which both call for sustainable transportation practices including bike lanes. She also ran on the MoveDC plan, which her DDOT spent millions to commission and produce.

Meanwhile, the opponent petition gathered around 3600 supporters over 2 years while the proponent petition has gathered over 4500 signatures in just a few weeks. The Councilmember ran on the bike lanes and won, and not only did he win, but in the precincts where bike lanes on Connecitcut Avenue were the primary issue - in contested ANC races as well - he outpollled the republican opponent as compared to other precincts across the ward by several points. You can look it up.

More people want the bike lanes, they promote safety in transportation, better health outcomes, more pedestrian safety and are a boon to local businesses.

The science and academic studies back it up.

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Anonymous wrote:For me, the one thing that makes Connecticut Ave such a bad idea for bikes lanes is that it is the gateway for millions of tourists each year. Most of whom are not familiar with DC roads nor used to driving in any city. So to mix those tens of thousands of tourist cars each year with a project that will induce thousands of new cyclists each day seems like a total death wish. For that reason Connecticut Ave is fairly unique as compared to other roads where this has been attempted. It’s just a really bad idea.

Think of how much better it would be if the tourists were not driving cars but on other modes of transportation? You are making the argument FOR bike lanes, thank you.

The people who drive to the zoo are most definitely not interested in participating in transit lifestyle you covet.

That's silly. Transit isn't a lifestyle, it's transportation. Would you say you participate in car lifestyle?

Yes.

You participate in a car lifestyle?! I'm so sorry.

Appreciate your concern, but I enjoy my car lifestyle!!

I used to enjoy my smoking inside at restaurants lifestyle, but the government doesn't have an obligation to legislate around things that are bad for people

Not having a tax base is bad for people.

Governments once made a lot of revenue from tobacco taxes. Thankfully that didn’t dissuade legislators from putting in place the measures that have enabled people to live healthier lifestyles.

Those measures were to both increase tobacco taxes and to require tobacco companies to effectively pay an annual dividend to states like they were shareholders.

It all comes together though because you’re spending your life arguing about some fantasy. DDOT listening to these very same arguments for a decade about Connecticut Ave and said no. I’m not sure why you are wasting your time arguing to death about something that is not going to happen in the foreseeable future but it’s both kind of sad and kind of funny.

DDOT didn't say no.

The Mayor said no, because she listened to a lot of BS and lies from a bunch of entitled old white people who cannot envision a life without cars.

The majority of the people want the bike lanes, and the science and economics back them up.

You’re disconnected from objective reality.

The DDOT director testified before the Council and stated the position of the agency. She explained and explicitly said that this was never supposed to be a bike lane project. DDOT works for the mayor. So the decisions of DDOT reflect the decision of the mayor. As for the opinion of the “majority” of the people, they overwhelmingly voted for the mayor.

What are you doing arguing to death for days on end about something that’s over? Do you not understand how crazy that is?

It was over when the Mayor announced Concept C too, right? But then you fought it to get a change. Why wouild you think it would be over then? It isn't, and proponents will continue to make the case until it really is over. No one called you crazy for fighting it after the Mayor announced her decision in 2021, but you call us crazy now for doing the same thing. The reason? You know we have the facts and public on our side.

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Anonymous wrote:For me, the one thing that makes Connecticut Ave such a bad idea for bikes lanes is that it is the gateway for millions of tourists each year. Most of whom are not familiar with DC roads nor used to driving in any city. So to mix those tens of thousands of tourist cars each year with a project that will induce thousands of new cyclists each day seems like a total death wish. For that reason Connecticut Ave is fairly unique as compared to other roads where this has been attempted. It’s just a really bad idea.

Think of how much better it would be if the tourists were not driving cars but on other modes of transportation? You are making the argument FOR bike lanes, thank you.

The people who drive to the zoo are most definitely not interested in participating in transit lifestyle you covet.

That's silly. Transit isn't a lifestyle, it's transportation. Would you say you participate in car lifestyle?

Yes.

You participate in a car lifestyle?! I'm so sorry.

Appreciate your concern, but I enjoy my car lifestyle!!

I used to enjoy my smoking inside at restaurants lifestyle, but the government doesn't have an obligation to legislate around things that are bad for people

Not having a tax base is bad for people.

Governments once made a lot of revenue from tobacco taxes. Thankfully that didn’t dissuade legislators from putting in place the measures that have enabled people to live healthier lifestyles.

Those measures were to both increase tobacco taxes and to require tobacco companies to effectively pay an annual dividend to states like they were shareholders.

It all comes together though because you’re spending your life arguing about some fantasy. DDOT listening to these very same arguments for a decade about Connecticut Ave and said no. I’m not sure why you are wasting your time arguing to death about something that is not going to happen in the foreseeable future but it’s both kind of sad and kind of funny.

DDOT didn't say no.

The Mayor said no, because she listened to a lot of BS and lies from a bunch of entitled old white people who cannot envision a life without cars.

The majority of the people want the bike lanes, and the science and economics back them up.

You’re disconnected from objective reality.

The DDOT director testified before the Council and stated the position of the agency. She explained and explicitly said that this was never supposed to be a bike lane project. DDOT works for the mayor. So the decisions of DDOT reflect the decision of the mayor. As for the opinion of the “majority” of the people, they overwhelmingly voted for the mayor.

What are you doing arguing to death for days on end about something that’s over? Do you not understand how crazy that is?

You mean the interim Director who has no experience or knowledge of transportation engineering or transportation planning, who clearly had no knowledge of MoveDC or any of the other plans and stakeholder engagement that has taken place across this and other projects across the city? Ya, we don't need another ignorant mayoral lackey in this position. She had no idea what she was talking about and was completely out of her elements.

In terms of the "majority" of the people, yes, the Mayor ran on a platform of VisionZero and SutainableDC2.0, which both call for sustainable transportation practices including bike lanes. She also ran on the MoveDC plan, which her DDOT spent millions to commission and produce.

Meanwhile, the opponent petition gathered around 3600 supporters over 2 years while the proponent petition has gathered over 4500 signatures in just a few weeks. The Councilmember ran on the bike lanes and won, and not only did he win, but in the precincts where bike lanes on Connecitcut Avenue were the primary issue - in contested ANC races as well - he outpollled the republican opponent as compared to other precincts across the ward by several points. You can look it up.

More people want the bike lanes, they promote safety in transportation, better health outcomes, more pedestrian safety and are a boon to local businesses.

The science and academic studies back it up.

Perhaps you havent noticed but no one asked for all these bike lanes and almost nobody uses them. Transportation surveys consistently show bicycling is among the least, if not *the least,* popular way of getting around.

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Anonymous wrote:For me, the one thing that makes Connecticut Ave such a bad idea for bikes lanes is that it is the gateway for millions of tourists each year. Most of whom are not familiar with DC roads nor used to driving in any city. So to mix those tens of thousands of tourist cars each year with a project that will induce thousands of new cyclists each day seems like a total death wish. For that reason Connecticut Ave is fairly unique as compared to other roads where this has been attempted. It’s just a really bad idea.

Think of how much better it would be if the tourists were not driving cars but on other modes of transportation? You are making the argument FOR bike lanes, thank you.

The people who drive to the zoo are most definitely not interested in participating in transit lifestyle you covet.

That's silly. Transit isn't a lifestyle, it's transportation. Would you say you participate in car lifestyle?

Yes.

You participate in a car lifestyle?! I'm so sorry.

Appreciate your concern, but I enjoy my car lifestyle!!

I used to enjoy my smoking inside at restaurants lifestyle, but the government doesn't have an obligation to legislate around things that are bad for people

Not having a tax base is bad for people.

Governments once made a lot of revenue from tobacco taxes. Thankfully that didn’t dissuade legislators from putting in place the measures that have enabled people to live healthier lifestyles.

Those measures were to both increase tobacco taxes and to require tobacco companies to effectively pay an annual dividend to states like they were shareholders.

It all comes together though because you’re spending your life arguing about some fantasy. DDOT listening to these very same arguments for a decade about Connecticut Ave and said no. I’m not sure why you are wasting your time arguing to death about something that is not going to happen in the foreseeable future but it’s both kind of sad and kind of funny.

DDOT didn't say no.

The Mayor said no, because she listened to a lot of BS and lies from a bunch of entitled old white people who cannot envision a life without cars.

The majority of the people want the bike lanes, and the science and economics back them up.

You’re disconnected from objective reality.

The DDOT director testified before the Council and stated the position of the agency. She explained and explicitly said that this was never supposed to be a bike lane project. DDOT works for the mayor. So the decisions of DDOT reflect the decision of the mayor. As for the opinion of the “majority” of the people, they overwhelmingly voted for the mayor.

What are you doing arguing to death for days on end about something that’s over? Do you not understand how crazy that is?

It was over when the Mayor announced Concept C too, right? But then you fought it to get a change. Why wouild you think it would be over then? It isn't, and proponents will continue to make the case until it really is over. No one called you crazy for fighting it after the Mayor announced her decision in 2021, but you call us crazy now for doing the same thing. The reason? You know we have the facts and public on our side.

It was over when the sugar high of free federal stimulus money dried up and it became apparent that the downtown commercial real estate tax base is about to collapse.

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Anonymous wrote:For me, the one thing that makes Connecticut Ave such a bad idea for bikes lanes is that it is the gateway for millions of tourists each year. Most of whom are not familiar with DC roads nor used to driving in any city. So to mix those tens of thousands of tourist cars each year with a project that will induce thousands of new cyclists each day seems like a total death wish. For that reason Connecticut Ave is fairly unique as compared to other roads where this has been attempted. It’s just a really bad idea.

Think of how much better it would be if the tourists were not driving cars but on other modes of transportation? You are making the argument FOR bike lanes, thank you.

The people who drive to the zoo are most definitely not interested in participating in transit lifestyle you covet.

That's silly. Transit isn't a lifestyle, it's transportation. Would you say you participate in car lifestyle?

Yes.

You participate in a car lifestyle?! I'm so sorry.

Appreciate your concern, but I enjoy my car lifestyle!!

I used to enjoy my smoking inside at restaurants lifestyle, but the government doesn't have an obligation to legislate around things that are bad for people

Not having a tax base is bad for people.

Governments once made a lot of revenue from tobacco taxes. Thankfully that didn’t dissuade legislators from putting in place the measures that have enabled people to live healthier lifestyles.

Those measures were to both increase tobacco taxes and to require tobacco companies to effectively pay an annual dividend to states like they were shareholders.

It all comes together though because you’re spending your life arguing about some fantasy. DDOT listening to these very same arguments for a decade about Connecticut Ave and said no. I’m not sure why you are wasting your time arguing to death about something that is not going to happen in the foreseeable future but it’s both kind of sad and kind of funny.

DDOT didn't say no.

The Mayor said no, because she listened to a lot of BS and lies from a bunch of entitled old white people who cannot envision a life without cars.

The majority of the people want the bike lanes, and the science and economics back them up.

You’re disconnected from objective reality.

The DDOT director testified before the Council and stated the position of the agency. She explained and explicitly said that this was never supposed to be a bike lane project. DDOT works for the mayor. So the decisions of DDOT reflect the decision of the mayor. As for the opinion of the “majority” of the people, they overwhelmingly voted for the mayor.

What are you doing arguing to death for days on end about something that’s over? Do you not understand how crazy that is?

You mean the interim Director who has no experience or knowledge of transportation engineering or transportation planning, who clearly had no knowledge of MoveDC or any of the other plans and stakeholder engagement that has taken place across this and other projects across the city? Ya, we don't need another ignorant mayoral lackey in this position. She had no idea what she was talking about and was completely out of her elements.

In terms of the "majority" of the people, yes, the Mayor ran on a platform of VisionZero and SutainableDC2.0, which both call for sustainable transportation practices including bike lanes. She also ran on the MoveDC plan, which her DDOT spent millions to commission and produce.

Meanwhile, the opponent petition gathered around 3600 supporters over 2 years while the proponent petition has gathered over 4500 signatures in just a few weeks. The Councilmember ran on the bike lanes and won, and not only did he win, but in the precincts where bike lanes on Connecitcut Avenue were the primary issue - in contested ANC races as well - he outpollled the republican opponent as compared to other precincts across the ward by several points. You can look it up.

More people want the bike lanes, they promote safety in transportation, better health outcomes, more pedestrian safety and are a boon to local businesses.

The science and academic studies back it up.

Perhaps you havent noticed but no one asked for all these bike lanes and almost nobody uses them. Transportation surveys consistently show bicycling is among the least, if not *the least,* popular way of getting around.

"No one" in your mind is the single family homeowners. You seem to be forgetting the thousands of apartment and condo dwellers who you seem to never talk to.