NYT: Profound increase in black voters who support Trump

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Anonymous wrote:How do the Dems remain so tone deaf? NYT reported polling data showing skyrocketing support among black voters for Trump:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/us/politics/biden-trump-black-voters-poll-democrats.html


People across the board are sick and tired of the out of the control crime like car jackings and shootings that have skyrocketed under Biden and are a result of local policies enacted by the Democrats. All too often that crime is occurring in black neighborhoods. That and the massive influx of illegal immigrants that have been pouring into the country courtesy of Biden and the Democrats is causing a significant erosion in the confidence of Dems to be able to govern. People want law and order and oour borders to be restored.

It is almost inevitable Trump is going to win. He is leading Biden by double digits now.

I wish them the best of luck under Trump.

They can't go worse than under Dems' "leaderhip".

K. So when Trump and a Republican Congress give qualified immunity to cops for shooting shoplifters, really hope that “black people are disproportionately accused of shoplifting” thing isn’t true! Or we all cool w the police now?

Cops already have qualified immunity to kill random (black) people - they don't even need to be accused of shoplifting.

If you think this is as bad as it can get, you’re adorable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do the Dems remain so tone deaf? NYT reported polling data showing skyrocketing support among black voters for Trump:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/us/politics/biden-trump-black-voters-poll-democrats.html


People across the board are sick and tired of the out of the control crime like car jackings and shootings that have skyrocketed under Biden and are a result of local policies enacted by the Democrats. All too often that crime is occurring in black neighborhoods. That and the massive influx of illegal immigrants that have been pouring into the country courtesy of Biden and the Democrats is causing a significant erosion in the confidence of Dems to be able to govern. People want law and order and oour borders to be restored.

It is almost inevitable Trump is going to win. He is leading Biden by double digits now.

I wish them the best of luck under Trump.

They can't go worse than under Dems' "leaderhip".

K. So when Trump and a Republican Congress give qualified immunity to cops for shooting shoplifters, really hope that “black people are disproportionately accused of shoplifting” thing isn’t true! Or we all cool w the police now?

Who do hate the most, Black people or cops?

I’m a lover not a hater.

Now your turn: who does Trump love more - black people or cops?

[Anonymous]

This thread has a false title.
Should be called:
Profound increase in white Trump voters claim to be black.
The end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread has a false title.
Should be called:
Profound increase in white Trump voters claim to be black.
The end.

You nailed it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread has a false title.
Should be called:
Profound increase in white Trump voters claim to be black.
The end.

ah yes, those damn deplorables. how DARE they want a good job!! the audacity!

[Anonymous]

our policies continue to screw low wage African Americans.  and we have known this for decades.

people need good jobs to thrive in our capitalism

The 1980-2000 immigrant influx, therefore, generally 'explains' about 20 to 60 percent of the decline in wages, 25 percent of the decline in employment, and about 10 percent of the rise in incarceration rates among blacks with a high school education or less

Almost everybody knows that in the past 40 years, the real wages and job prospects for low-skilled men, especially low-skilled minority workers, have fallen. And there is evidence, that a rising tide of immigration is  to blame. Now, a new NBER study suggests that immigration has more far-reaching consequences than merely depressing wages and lowering employment rates of low-skilled African-American males: its effects also appear to push some would-be workers into crime and, later, into prison.

https://www.nber.org/digest/may07/effects-immigration-african-american-employment-and-incarceration


When the supply of workers goes up, the price that firms have to pay to hire workers goes down. Wage trends over the past half-century suggest that a 10 percent increase in the number of workers with a particular set of skills probably lowers the wage of that group by at least 3 percent.

Immigration redistributes wealth from those who compete with immigrants to those who use immigrants—from the employee to the employer.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-clinton-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Black people were already disinterested in Biden in 2020 but we held our breath and voted for him because we were convinced Trump was the the second coming of Lucifer. Well, we are past that stage now. Trump is alive and well in the polls because of white voters. We are tired of rescuing Democrats and this country from Republican chaos. Republicans are playing the long game the right way - they don't care if black people vote for Trump- they just don't want them voting for Biden. And from my little corner of the DMV, Biden hasn't given black people enough reasons to vote for him in 2024. I will also note that lots of black immigrants don't give one crap about racism so the fearmongering about camps does not register with them.

So Biden hasn't given blacks enough reason to vote for him in 2024. So instead they will vote for the guy who will give them even less.

I’ve read and listened to the same arguments as above from American Muslim leaders urging Muslims not to vote for Biden.

[Anonymous]

GOP candidates skip Iowa’s only minority-focused forum
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/gop-candidates-skip-iowas-only-minority-focused-forum-rcna132202

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:GOP candidates skip Iowa’s only minority-focused forum
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/gop-candidates-skip-iowas-only-minority-focused-forum-rcna132202

"But but but the GOP is so much better for blacks than Biden!!!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok - so just so we are clear - the black community is for “shooting shoplifters on sight” which is one of Trumps many stated policies.

K.

Not a Trump fan, but boy, are you gullible, or at least hyperbolic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats need to stop worrying about blacks voters voting for Trump and instead focus on why people don't want to vote for Biden. The list is long: age, immigration, support fo

r Israel, policies regarding sexual identity, homelessness, access to healthcare, housing, CRIME, etc. People living in urban areas really have a lot to grapple with and fear mongering them to not vote for Trump is not going to work this time. And it has everything to do with believing that Democrats won't deliver on these issues and less to do with believing Trump will solve these problems (we know he won't).

+ a million.

WTF are you talking about? 81 million people voted for Biden. Polls a year out only register that a lot of people like to complain about things and imagine that some ideal candidate might appear out of thin air. Those who want someone other than Biden are all over the political spectrum. No potential candidate would poll a majority at this point.

This is not about a fantasy candidate - it more like voter apathy. All I hear as a black voter is something to the effect that Trump will have us back on a plantation within 90 days of his inauguration. Portraying Trump as the Boogeyman is really not an effective strategy to retain or attract voters.

Exactly. It is always, look the other way at our bad policies, because theirs is worse. Most people would probably like to see changes to allow at least some standard allowance for abortions and caps to control the border situation. Instead all we have is all or other options according to the loudmouths.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Democrats need to stop worrying about blacks voters voting for Trump and instead focus on why people don't want to vote for Biden. The list is long: age, immigration, support fo

r Israel, policies regarding sexual identity, homelessness, access to healthcare, housing, CRIME, etc. People living in urban areas really have a lot to grapple with and fear mongering them to not vote for Trump is not going to work this time. And it has everything to do with believing that Democrats won't deliver on these issues and less to do with believing Trump will solve these problems (we know he won't).

+ a million.

WTF are you talking about? 81 million people voted for Biden. Polls a year out only register that a lot of people like to complain about things and imagine that some ideal candidate might appear out of thin air. Those who want someone other than Biden are all over the political spectrum. No potential candidate would poll a majority at this point.

This is not about a fantasy candidate - it more like voter apathy. All I hear as a black voter is something to the effect that Trump will have us back on a plantation within 90 days of his inauguration. Portraying Trump as the Boogeyman is really not an effective strategy to retain or attract voters.

Exactly. It is always, look the other way at our bad policies, because theirs is worse. Most people would probably like to see changes to allow at least some standard allowance for abortions and caps to control the border situation. Instead all we have is all or other options according to the loudmouths.

Humor me. How are they worse. As a highly educated black woman, I look at how conservatives went after Gay and can only wonder when you will come after me. That's how my highly educated friends feel now. No thanks on the GOP. I'll take my changes.

[Anonymous]

A lot of this thread just sounds like more of that fake-ass Candace Owens BLEXIT astroturfing.

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[Anonymous]

The Dems have been screwing the black community for 60 years. I mean they literally don’t think the black community can survive without handouts. The implied racism of low/No expectations. Bout time they tried something new.