Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Upper CC on the DC side in the 70’s and 80’s. Homes were not being built back then. They had been there for a very long time. Back then houses were for sale and were not bought for quite some time. Not because they were expensive. Back then, nobody wanted to live there. They wanted Bethesda or the MD side of CC. It was around 1991 I remember a real small house off Military and 32nd going for over a million. From there, it just got stupid on hosing prices. A lot of those homes are from the 40’s and 50’s

You are basically lying out of your a**. There were almost zero houses going for over $1MM in 1991…none. There is a small house being offered as we speak for $900k. The median price in 1991 was likely around $250k…and that is generous.

I live in Bethesda and my house was sold in ‘86 for $380k. My neighborhood would never be considered close to as prestigious as CCDC. So you’re wrong too.

What are you talking about…there has always been a premium for crossing the border into MD from DC, such that identical houses straddling Western Avenue were worth several hundred thousand $$$s more on the MD side.

My neighbor selling their 3000 sw ft house in CCDC for around $1.5MM paid $260k for the house in 1996.

Have you checked the resale value of your $380k Bethesda home?

You think there’s a MD premium on home values? Sorry, I’m not going to listen to you anymore.

Not as much as 20-30 years ago, but very similar houses still sell for more on the MD side.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Upper CC on the DC side in the 70’s and 80’s. Homes were not being built back then. They had been there for a very long time. Back then houses were for sale and were not bought for quite some time. Not because they were expensive. Back then, nobody wanted to live there. They wanted Bethesda or the MD side of CC. It was around 1991 I remember a real small house off Military and 32nd going for over a million. From there, it just got stupid on hosing prices. A lot of those homes are from the 40’s and 50’s

Just spent 30 seconds on a zillow search and there is a house for sale on 39th Street for $1.35MM that was last sold in 1996 for....$157,000.

Also, there was literally a small house sold on November 10, 2023 on 32nd street just off of Military for ....$1,000,000.

So, any evidence to support a small house off of 32nd an Military selling for over $1MM in 1991?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.

Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.

Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.

They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.

He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.

The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.

Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.

What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?

And why exactly is “Smart Growth” needed in Chevy Chase DC which was planned as a low-scale leafy semi suburban neighborhood. There have been and are plenty of locations in DC where dense, tall and mixed -use development is welcomed, like the Wharf, Nancy Yard, etc. DC has a diversity of neighborhoods with different attributes that make many singular if not unique. Is it necessary that they all look the same?

It's not needed. Ward 3 is not the least dense (both in terms of populations and number of housing units) in DC by far. The argument about needing more density falls flat. There are vacant rental units throughout Ward 3.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.

Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.

Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.

They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.

He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.

The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.

Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.

What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?

And why exactly is “Smart Growth” needed in Chevy Chase DC which was planned as a low-scale leafy semi suburban neighborhood. There have been and are plenty of locations in DC where dense, tall and mixed -use development is welcomed, like the Wharf, Nancy Yard, etc. DC has a diversity of neighborhoods with different attributes that make many singular if not unique. Is it necessary that they all look the same?

It's not needed. Ward 3 is not the least dense (both in terms of populations and number of housing units) in DC by far. The argument about needing more density falls flat. There are vacant rental units throughout Ward 3.

Of course there are vacant rental units throughout Ward 3. Just like there are vacant owned units for sale throughout Ward 3. People move out, people move in. If there were a 100% occupancy rate for rental or owned units, 100% of the time, that would be a terrible sign.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.

Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.

Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.

They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.

He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.

The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.

Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.

What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?

And why exactly is “Smart Growth” needed in Chevy Chase DC which was planned as a low-scale leafy semi suburban neighborhood. There have been and are plenty of locations in DC where dense, tall and mixed -use development is welcomed, like the Wharf, Nancy Yard, etc. DC has a diversity of neighborhoods with different attributes that make many singular if not unique. Is it necessary that they all look the same?

Around 1900, with a streetcar, by a segregationist. Now it's 120 years later, and things do sometimes change.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.

Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.

Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.

They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.

He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.

The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.

Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.

What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?

And why exactly is “Smart Growth” needed in Chevy Chase DC which was planned as a low-scale leafy semi suburban neighborhood. There have been and are plenty of locations in DC where dense, tall and mixed -use development is welcomed, like the Wharf, Nancy Yard, etc. DC has a diversity of neighborhoods with different attributes that make many singular if not unique. Is it necessary that they all look the same?

Around 1900, with a streetcar, by a segregationist. Now it's 120 years later, and things do sometimes change.

You mean the segregationist senator who was a founder of the Chevy Chase Land Company 125 years ago? Chevy Chase Land Co today funds Greater Greater Washington. So a long ago association with a segregationist investor justifies upzoning a somehow “tainted” green, lower density neighborhood to dense upmarket development ? Yet it’s perfectly fine for GGW to take money from the same company that the segregationist founded?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.

Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.

Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.

They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.

He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.

The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.

Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.

What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?

And why exactly is “Smart Growth” needed in Chevy Chase DC which was planned as a low-scale leafy semi suburban neighborhood. There have been and are plenty of locations in DC where dense, tall and mixed -use development is welcomed, like the Wharf, Nancy Yard, etc. DC has a diversity of neighborhoods with different attributes that make many singular if not unique. Is it necessary that they all look the same?

Around 1900, with a streetcar, by a segregationist. Now it's 120 years later, and things do sometimes change.

You mean the segregationist senator who was a founder of the Chevy Chase Land Company 125 years ago? Chevy Chase Land Co today funds Greater Greater Washington. So a long ago association with a segregationist investor justifies upzoning a somehow “tainted” green, lower density neighborhood to dense upmarket development ? Yet it’s perfectly fine for GGW to take money from the same company that the segregationist founded?

Is GGW advocating for keeping Chevy Chase the way the segregationists wanted it in 1900? No. Are you? Well, no, you also aren't, because otherwise you'd be advocating for the return of the streetcar and the abolition of street parking. Chevy Chase DC was planned as a neighborhood without cars, after all.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.

Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.

Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.

They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.

He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.

The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.

Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.

What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?

And why exactly is “Smart Growth” needed in Chevy Chase DC which was planned as a low-scale leafy semi suburban neighborhood. There have been and are plenty of locations in DC where dense, tall and mixed -use development is welcomed, like the Wharf, Nancy Yard, etc. DC has a diversity of neighborhoods with different attributes that make many singular if not unique. Is it necessary that they all look the same?

Around 1900, with a streetcar, by a segregationist. Now it's 120 years later, and things do sometimes change.

You mean the segregationist senator who was a founder of the Chevy Chase Land Company 125 years ago? Chevy Chase Land Co today funds Greater Greater Washington. So a long ago association with a segregationist investor justifies upzoning a somehow “tainted” green, lower density neighborhood to dense upmarket development ? Yet it’s perfectly fine for GGW to take money from the same company that the segregationist founded?

Is GGW advocating for keeping Chevy Chase the way the segregationists wanted it in 1900? No. Are you? Well, no, you also aren't, because otherwise you'd be advocating for the return of the streetcar and the abolition of street parking. Chevy Chase DC was planned as a neighborhood without cars, after all.

What about horses? Did they design it for abundant horse parking?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.

Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.

Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.

They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.

He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.

The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.

Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.

What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?

And why exactly is “Smart Growth” needed in Chevy Chase DC which was planned as a low-scale leafy semi suburban neighborhood. There have been and are plenty of locations in DC where dense, tall and mixed -use development is welcomed, like the Wharf, Nancy Yard, etc. DC has a diversity of neighborhoods with different attributes that make many singular if not unique. Is it necessary that they all look the same?

Around 1900, with a streetcar, by a segregationist. Now it's 120 years later, and things do sometimes change.

You mean the segregationist senator who was a founder of the Chevy Chase Land Company 125 years ago? Chevy Chase Land Co today funds Greater Greater Washington. So a long ago association with a segregationist investor justifies upzoning a somehow “tainted” green, lower density neighborhood to dense upmarket development ? Yet it’s perfectly fine for GGW to take money from the same company that the segregationist founded?

Is GGW advocating for keeping Chevy Chase the way the segregationists wanted it in 1900? No. Are you? Well, no, you also aren't, because otherwise you'd be advocating for the return of the streetcar and the abolition of street parking. Chevy Chase DC was planned as a neighborhood without cars, after all.

What about horses? Did they design it for abundant horse parking?

1. Horses aren't cars.
2. Cars aren't horses.
3. No.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.

Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.

Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.

They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.

He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.

The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.

Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.

What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?

And why exactly is “Smart Growth” needed in Chevy Chase DC which was planned as a low-scale leafy semi suburban neighborhood. There have been and are plenty of locations in DC where dense, tall and mixed -use development is welcomed, like the Wharf, Nancy Yard, etc. DC has a diversity of neighborhoods with different attributes that make many singular if not unique. Is it necessary that they all look the same?

Around 1900, with a streetcar, by a segregationist. Now it's 120 years later, and things do sometimes change.

You mean the segregationist senator who was a founder of the Chevy Chase Land Company 125 years ago? Chevy Chase Land Co today funds Greater Greater Washington. So a long ago association with a segregationist investor justifies upzoning a somehow “tainted” green, lower density neighborhood to dense upmarket development ? Yet it’s perfectly fine for GGW to take money from the same company that the segregationist founded?

Is GGW advocating for keeping Chevy Chase the way the segregationists wanted it in 1900? No. Are you? Well, no, you also aren't, because otherwise you'd be advocating for the return of the streetcar and the abolition of street parking. Chevy Chase DC was planned as a neighborhood without cars, after all.

What about horses? Did they design it for abundant horse parking?

1. Horses aren't cars.
2. Cars aren't horses.
3. No.

According to you, the Chevy Chase Development Co did not take into account the dominant form of transportation at the time when developing housing? LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.

Did they really ban street parking for cars in 1900? Seems like a weird thing to do when so few people would own a car.
Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.

Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.

They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.

He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.

The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.

Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.

What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?

And why exactly is “Smart Growth” needed in Chevy Chase DC which was planned as a low-scale leafy semi suburban neighborhood. There have been and are plenty of locations in DC where dense, tall and mixed -use development is welcomed, like the Wharf, Nancy Yard, etc. DC has a diversity of neighborhoods with different attributes that make many singular if not unique. Is it necessary that they all look the same?

Around 1900, with a streetcar, by a segregationist. Now it's 120 years later, and things do sometimes change.

You mean the segregationist senator who was a founder of the Chevy Chase Land Company 125 years ago? Chevy Chase Land Co today funds Greater Greater Washington. So a long ago association with a segregationist investor justifies upzoning a somehow “tainted” green, lower density neighborhood to dense upmarket development ? Yet it’s perfectly fine for GGW to take money from the same company that the segregationist founded?

Is GGW advocating for keeping Chevy Chase the way the segregationists wanted it in 1900? No. Are you? Well, no, you also aren't, because otherwise you'd be advocating for the return of the streetcar and the abolition of street parking. Chevy Chase DC was planned as a neighborhood without cars, after all.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.

Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.

Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.

They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.

He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.

The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.

Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.

What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?

And why exactly is “Smart Growth” needed in Chevy Chase DC which was planned as a low-scale leafy semi suburban neighborhood. There have been and are plenty of locations in DC where dense, tall and mixed -use development is welcomed, like the Wharf, Nancy Yard, etc. DC has a diversity of neighborhoods with different attributes that make many singular if not unique. Is it necessary that they all look the same?

Around 1900, with a streetcar, by a segregationist. Now it's 120 years later, and things do sometimes change.

You mean the segregationist senator who was a founder of the Chevy Chase Land Company 125 years ago? Chevy Chase Land Co today funds Greater Greater Washington. So a long ago association with a segregationist investor justifies upzoning a somehow “tainted” green, lower density neighborhood to dense upmarket development ? Yet it’s perfectly fine for GGW to take money from the same company that the segregationist founded?

Is GGW advocating for keeping Chevy Chase the way the segregationists wanted it in 1900? No. Are you? Well, no, you also aren't, because otherwise you'd be advocating for the return of the streetcar and the abolition of street parking. Chevy Chase DC was planned as a neighborhood without cars, after all.

Did they really ban street parking in 1900? Seems like a weird thing they would do back then when so few people owned cars.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.

Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.

Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.

They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.

He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.

The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.

Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.

What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?

And why exactly is “Smart Growth” needed in Chevy Chase DC which was planned as a low-scale leafy semi suburban neighborhood. There have been and are plenty of locations in DC where dense, tall and mixed -use development is welcomed, like the Wharf, Nancy Yard, etc. DC has a diversity of neighborhoods with different attributes that make many singular if not unique. Is it necessary that they all look the same?

Around 1900, with a streetcar, by a segregationist. Now it's 120 years later, and things do sometimes change.

You mean the segregationist senator who was a founder of the Chevy Chase Land Company 125 years ago? Chevy Chase Land Co today funds Greater Greater Washington. So a long ago association with a segregationist investor justifies upzoning a somehow “tainted” green, lower density neighborhood to dense upmarket development ? Yet it’s perfectly fine for GGW to take money from the same company that the segregationist founded?

Is GGW advocating for keeping Chevy Chase the way the segregationists wanted it in 1900? No. Are you? Well, no, you also aren't, because otherwise you'd be advocating for the return of the streetcar and the abolition of street parking. Chevy Chase DC was planned as a neighborhood without cars, after all.

What about horses? Did they design it for abundant horse parking?

1. Horses aren't cars.
2. Cars aren't horses.
3. No.

According to you, the Chevy Chase Development Co did not take into account the dominant form of transportation at the time when developing housing? LOL.

Streetcars and feet.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.

Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.

Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.

They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.

He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.

The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.

Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.

What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?

And why exactly is “Smart Growth” needed in Chevy Chase DC which was planned as a low-scale leafy semi suburban neighborhood. There have been and are plenty of locations in DC where dense, tall and mixed -use development is welcomed, like the Wharf, Nancy Yard, etc. DC has a diversity of neighborhoods with different attributes that make many singular if not unique. Is it necessary that they all look the same?

Around 1900, with a streetcar, by a segregationist. Now it's 120 years later, and things do sometimes change.

You mean the segregationist senator who was a founder of the Chevy Chase Land Company 125 years ago? Chevy Chase Land Co today funds Greater Greater Washington. So a long ago association with a segregationist investor justifies upzoning a somehow “tainted” green, lower density neighborhood to dense upmarket development ? Yet it’s perfectly fine for GGW to take money from the same company that the segregationist founded?

Is GGW advocating for keeping Chevy Chase the way the segregationists wanted it in 1900? No. Are you? Well, no, you also aren't, because otherwise you'd be advocating for the return of the streetcar and the abolition of street parking. Chevy Chase DC was planned as a neighborhood without cars, after all.

Did they really ban street parking in 1900? Seems like a weird thing they would do back then when so few people owned cars.

No, they didn't ban something that did not exist. Chevy Chase DC was planned as a neighborhood with no automobiles. So, if you want to stick with the plan for Chevy Chase DC, you need to advocate for banning automobiles - which do, now, exist.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.

Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.

Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.

They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.

He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.

The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.

Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.

What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?

And why exactly is “Smart Growth” needed in Chevy Chase DC which was planned as a low-scale leafy semi suburban neighborhood. There have been and are plenty of locations in DC where dense, tall and mixed -use development is welcomed, like the Wharf, Nancy Yard, etc. DC has a diversity of neighborhoods with different attributes that make many singular if not unique. Is it necessary that they all look the same?

Around 1900, with a streetcar, by a segregationist. Now it's 120 years later, and things do sometimes change.

You mean the segregationist senator who was a founder of the Chevy Chase Land Company 125 years ago? Chevy Chase Land Co today funds Greater Greater Washington. So a long ago association with a segregationist investor justifies upzoning a somehow “tainted” green, lower density neighborhood to dense upmarket development ? Yet it’s perfectly fine for GGW to take money from the same company that the segregationist founded?

Is GGW advocating for keeping Chevy Chase the way the segregationists wanted it in 1900? No. Are you? Well, no, you also aren't, because otherwise you'd be advocating for the return of the streetcar and the abolition of street parking. Chevy Chase DC was planned as a neighborhood without cars, after all.

What about horses? Did they design it for abundant horse parking?

1. Horses aren't cars.
2. Cars aren't horses.
3. No.

According to you, the Chevy Chase Development Co did not take into account the dominant form of transportation at the time when developing housing? LOL.

Streetcars and feet.

Isn’t your objection to low density areas like Chevy Chase that they are not designed to facilitate more walking? Yet here you are trying to tell people that back in 1900, rich people were going to move to this low density, isolated and exclusive suburb and walk? Where the hell were they supposed to walk to? There was barely a couple stores back then.