Teacher exposes the craptastic decline iof MCPS in Reddit rant

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are only 2-6 good high schools in MoCo and people pay a lot to live there.

The other people buy cheap houses zoned for bad schools

If you believe that the only good schools are ones in neighborhoods with over-priced real estate, what do you think we as a society owe to people who truly cannot afford to live in those neighborhoods?

Surely, you also believe that an adequate education is a human right and the key to breaking cycles of generational poverty. Are you okay with real estate prices being the tool that creates a permanent underclass?

The slide began with eliminating finals, but that policy was a symptom of decline, not the cause. What we are calling pandemic learning loss was like a heart attack after the patient had a Krispy Kreme donut following a decade of daily Big Macs.

It is time for a true overhaul. But one that must include parental accountability as well. And buying a $900k house zoned to a W feeder doesn’t discharge your responsibility. Affluent parents need to advocate for a grading policy that supports rather than diminishes students learning time management and accountability skills. Affluent parents need to have constructive conversations with their children about the feedback teachers provide and not just react to low grades with angry emails and vitriolic DCUM posts. Your child didn’t get an A on homework because they really understand the concept. They got an A because that category only allows 100%, 90% (if late), and 50% (if never submitted). The C they got on classwork shows their true achievement.

I think you're mixing things up in your last paragraph.....

1) $900k won't get you anything to brag about in many W feeder areas. You can buy and find many $900k homes in the DCC area. You can definitely get a LARGER sized home for that $900k in the DCC zones compared to the Ws, but expensive housing is expensive throughout MoCo, with those prices decreasing on the fringes of the county. To get "cheap" housing, you really have to move outside of MoCo these days, which is why Frederick is booming.

2) You're talking about a group of wealthy parents who henpeck and screech if their child gets a B on an assignment and demands that their child be given a reassessment or insists the teacher wasn't fair or uses some other excuse to push for their kid to either get a higher grade or have a chance to boost their. To be sure, those parents are ANNOYING. But the shift in the grading was NOT because of this group of parents.

3) There's ANOTHER group of parents who usually are on the lower income side, who feel that every failure of their child's is the fault of the school. They don't look at their own chaotic home environment, nor do they possess an ounce of discipline and organization themselves, but they insist their child is doing poorly because the school system is wrong. Either the teacher is racist and that's why their kid is skipping class, or the teacher went too fast and didn't explain enough for the kid or they believe it's the teacher's job at the high school level to constantly remind their child to turn in assignments. These parents usually either push back whenever the school calls to intervene and always defends their child no matter how wrong the behavior. "Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing."

These parents, whose children continuously fail classes and fail to graduate, are the ones for whom the 50% rule on missing assignments and the 90/10 split of all tasks and practice prep were implemented for. It was done to lower the bar to make it easier to graduate. Because these parents don't actually care if their kids do WELL in school or class. But they do care if they get told their child cannot graduate high school. So this appeases them and makes them happy, and also helps the system look more "successful" since graduation rates go up when you lower the bar.

I love how you believe group#2 has bad behavior but group #1 is merely annoying. Group#1 cares if they’re student graduates, but also think their kid can do no wrong and is entitled to A’s. Group #1 sues for anything and everything which is what causes unnecessary attention and then makes folks afraid to enforce anything. “Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing,” comes from Group 1 as folks in your perceived Group 2 don’t even answer the phone.

I get this from the wealthy parents as well: Unbeknownst to MCPS, school should not have been in session from 10/31 to 11/10. This was a time for families to take vacations before the holidays. As a teacher, I’m stupid already, but I was really an idiot to teach anything new the last two weeks since their child was on a cruise/visiting cousins/in the south of France. I just want to spoil their fun.

We took our kids out of ES yearly for a fall trip. It's cheaper, weather is nicer and less crowded. What is the big deal? We heavily supplemented at home and they were fine.

Your entitlement and selfishness are showing. Doing this one year, I can understand. But doing this annually and feeling justified because you supplement at home? Entitled.

Our kids were way ahead so it was no big deal. Great if you can afford expensive vacations but the rest of us need to watch the budget.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just had a girl leave for two months on vacation. I told her she'd be responsible for her making this up on her own or she'd fail my class. The attitude...."There's no way I'm doing work on MY vacation." Me: Then you'll fail. Her: You're just a b-word (she obviously said the actual word-this forum apparently doesn't allowing cussing)

I'm getting out ASAP.

Meh. Under current MCPS rules she'll be unenrolled in a couple weeks.

She won’t. It’s actually excused bc the parents called it in ahead of time . Thanks for playing though! This is why teachers want to quit. They tell their actual stories and people who have no idea what they are talking about choose not to believe them. Unreal.

We were told by the school after two weeks we’d be unenrolled and would have to reenroll. You cannot take off two months and still stay enrolled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There are only 2-6 good high schools in MoCo and people pay a lot to live there.

The other people buy cheap houses zoned for bad schools

If you believe that the only good schools are ones in neighborhoods with over-priced real estate, what do you think we as a society owe to people who truly cannot afford to live in those neighborhoods?

Surely, you also believe that an adequate education is a human right and the key to breaking cycles of generational poverty. Are you okay with real estate prices being the tool that creates a permanent underclass?

The slide began with eliminating finals, but that policy was a symptom of decline, not the cause. What we are calling pandemic learning loss was like a heart attack after the patient had a Krispy Kreme donut following a decade of daily Big Macs.

It is time for a true overhaul. But one that must include parental accountability as well. And buying a $900k house zoned to a W feeder doesn’t discharge your responsibility. Affluent parents need to advocate for a grading policy that supports rather than diminishes students learning time management and accountability skills. Affluent parents need to have constructive conversations with their children about the feedback teachers provide and not just react to low grades with angry emails and vitriolic DCUM posts. Your child didn’t get an A on homework because they really understand the concept. They got an A because that category only allows 100%, 90% (if late), and 50% (if never submitted). The C they got on classwork shows their true achievement.

I think you're mixing things up in your last paragraph.....

1) $900k won't get you anything to brag about in many W feeder areas. You can buy and find many $900k homes in the DCC area. You can definitely get a LARGER sized home for that $900k in the DCC zones compared to the Ws, but expensive housing is expensive throughout MoCo, with those prices decreasing on the fringes of the county. To get "cheap" housing, you really have to move outside of MoCo these days, which is why Frederick is booming.

2) You're talking about a group of wealthy parents who henpeck and screech if their child gets a B on an assignment and demands that their child be given a reassessment or insists the teacher wasn't fair or uses some other excuse to push for their kid to either get a higher grade or have a chance to boost their. To be sure, those parents are ANNOYING. But the shift in the grading was NOT because of this group of parents.

3) There's ANOTHER group of parents who usually are on the lower income side, who feel that every failure of their child's is the fault of the school. They don't look at their own chaotic home environment, nor do they possess an ounce of discipline and organization themselves, but they insist their child is doing poorly because the school system is wrong. Either the teacher is racist and that's why their kid is skipping class, or the teacher went too fast and didn't explain enough for the kid or they believe it's the teacher's job at the high school level to constantly remind their child to turn in assignments. These parents usually either push back whenever the school calls to intervene and always defends their child no matter how wrong the behavior. "Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing."

These parents, whose children continuously fail classes and fail to graduate, are the ones for whom the 50% rule on missing assignments and the 90/10 split of all tasks and practice prep were implemented for. It was done to lower the bar to make it easier to graduate. Because these parents don't actually care if their kids do WELL in school or class. But they do care if they get told their child cannot graduate high school. So this appeases them and makes them happy, and also helps the system look more "successful" since graduation rates go up when you lower the bar.

I love how you believe group#2 has bad behavior but group #1 is merely annoying. Group#1 cares if they’re student graduates, but also think their kid can do no wrong and is entitled to A’s. Group #1 sues for anything and everything which is what causes unnecessary attention and then makes folks afraid to enforce anything. “Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing,” comes from Group 1 as folks in your perceived Group 2 don’t even answer the phone.

I get this from the wealthy parents as well: Unbeknownst to MCPS, school should not have been in session from 10/31 to 11/10. This was a time for families to take vacations before the holidays. As a teacher, I’m stupid already, but I was really an idiot to teach anything new the last two weeks since their child was on a cruise/visiting cousins/in the south of France. I just want to spoil their fun.

We took our kids out of ES yearly for a fall trip. It's cheaper, weather is nicer and less crowded. What is the big deal? We heavily supplemented at home and they were fine.

Because school is IN session. You sound dumb. What if EVERY kid did what you are doing - a class full of 28 kids just randomly taking off a week or two because prices or cheaper. That is disruptive and it is inconsiderate of the school and teacher's time and planning. Don't you think EVERYONE wants to take a cheaper vacation than the prices in the Spring or summer??? You should just accept that you can't afford to travel to places you want to go and go somewhere cheaper in the summer and Spring. That's what most people with your income level do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just had a girl leave for two months on vacation. I told her she'd be responsible for her making this up on her own or she'd fail my class. The attitude...."There's no way I'm doing work on MY vacation." Me: Then you'll fail. Her: You're just a b-word (she obviously said the actual word-this forum apparently doesn't allowing cussing)

I'm getting out ASAP.

Meh. Under current MCPS rules she'll be unenrolled in a couple weeks.

She won’t. It’s actually excused bc the parents called it in ahead of time . Thanks for playing though! This is why teachers want to quit. They tell their actual stories and people who have no idea what they are talking about choose not to believe them. Unreal.

We were told by the school after two weeks we’d be unenrolled and would have to reenroll. You cannot take off two months and still stay enrolled.

DP. Schools break the rules all. the. time. Usually all it takes is a pushy and obnoxious parent and administrators roll over. People are too exhausted to fight anymore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Take a look at Baltimore city schools - that is where mcps is headed. Seems like a good time
to open a new private school in moco. So many disgruntled teachers to hire as well.

Catholics should ask the Archbishop of Maryland to open new schools. We also need charters if MCPS is unwilling to change things. I started noticing the decline in 2014.

We had a charter and it was a miserable failure.

That is because the ladies who ran it are frauds and asshats. Pick someone else and it might be successful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Just had a girl leave for two months on vacation. I told her she'd be responsible for her making this up on her own or she'd fail my class. The attitude...."There's no way I'm doing work on MY vacation." Me: Then you'll fail. Her: You're just a b-word (she obviously said the actual word-this forum apparently doesn't allowing cussing)

I'm getting out ASAP.

Meh. Under current MCPS rules she'll be unenrolled in a couple weeks.

She won’t. It’s actually excused bc the parents called it in ahead of time . Thanks for playing though! This is why teachers want to quit. They tell their actual stories and people who have no idea what they are talking about choose not to believe them. Unreal.

We were told by the school after two weeks we’d be unenrolled and would have to reenroll. You cannot take off two months and still stay enrolled.

DP...not true. The vacation time alone makes this not true. Also your "meh"..so its okay for kids to call teachers names? Nah....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just had a girl leave for two months on vacation. I told her she'd be responsible for her making this up on her own or she'd fail my class. The attitude...."There's no way I'm doing work on MY vacation." Me: Then you'll fail. Her: You're just a b-word (she obviously said the actual word-this forum apparently doesn't allowing cussing)

I'm getting out ASAP.

Meh. Under current MCPS rules she'll be unenrolled in a couple weeks.

She won’t. It’s actually excused bc the parents called it in ahead of time . Thanks for playing though! This is why teachers want to quit. They tell their actual stories and people who have no idea what they are talking about choose not to believe them. Unreal.

We were told by the school after two weeks we’d be unenrolled and would have to reenroll. You cannot take off two months and still stay enrolled.

On multiple occasions at multiple schools, I’ve seen student absences for travel go on for far longer than two weeks. We used to tell families 29 days, but realistically, it was overlooked if the counselor liked the family. It’s also on the registrar to follow through and some of them have so many more pressing matters to handle that students returned on Day 31 or 32 before she even sent the warning letter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just had a girl leave for two months on vacation. I told her she'd be responsible for her making this up on her own or she'd fail my class. The attitude...."There's no way I'm doing work on MY vacation." Me: Then you'll fail. Her: You're just a b-word (she obviously said the actual word-this forum apparently doesn't allowing cussing)

I'm getting out ASAP.

Meh. Under current MCPS rules she'll be unenrolled in a couple weeks.

She won’t. It’s actually excused bc the parents called it in ahead of time . Thanks for playing though! This is why teachers want to quit. They tell their actual stories and people who have no idea what they are talking about choose not to believe them. Unreal.

We were told by the school after two weeks we’d be unenrolled and would have to reenroll. You cannot take off two months and still stay enrolled.

On multiple occasions at multiple schools, I’ve seen student absences for travel go on for far longer than two weeks. We used to tell families 29 days, but realistically, it was overlooked if the counselor liked the family. It’s also on the registrar to follow through and some of them have so many more pressing matters to handle that students returned on Day 31 or 32 before she even sent the warning letter.

Can confirm. It’s insane parents are attempting to say teachers are wrong. This is the actual bs we deal with. Wale up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Just had a girl leave for two months on vacation. I told her she'd be responsible for her making this up on her own or she'd fail my class. The attitude...."There's no way I'm doing work on MY vacation." Me: Then you'll fail. Her: You're just a b-word (she obviously said the actual word-this forum apparently doesn't allowing cussing)

I'm getting out ASAP.

Meh. Under current MCPS rules she'll be unenrolled in a couple weeks.

She won’t. It’s actually excused bc the parents called it in ahead of time . Thanks for playing though! This is why teachers want to quit. They tell their actual stories and people who have no idea what they are talking about choose not to believe them. Unreal.

We were told by the school after two weeks we’d be unenrolled and would have to reenroll. You cannot take off two months and still stay enrolled.

Yep. You can. How many people did you need to confirm it for you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just had a girl leave for two months on vacation. I told her she'd be responsible for her making this up on her own or she'd fail my class. The attitude...."There's no way I'm doing work on MY vacation." Me: Then you'll fail. Her: You're just a b-word (she obviously said the actual word-this forum apparently doesn't allowing cussing)

I'm getting out ASAP.

Meh. Under current MCPS rules she'll be unenrolled in a couple weeks.

She won’t. It’s actually excused bc the parents called it in ahead of time . Thanks for playing though! This is why teachers want to quit. They tell their actual stories and people who have no idea what they are talking about choose not to believe them. Unreal.

And this is how things are ridiculous for not being enforced. It’s one thing if it’s called in ahead of time for a kid whose parent or immediate family member may be dying. Okay that’s an extenuating circumstance. Heck I’d give you a parent that’s a diplomat/military/ etc where the educational value of the trip plus some homework might actually outweigh class on various levels. But most of these should just be told, “hope you have fun, your child will be marked unexcused for all days missed(unless you can produce the appropriate documentation for an excused absence). They will receive a grade of 0 for any missed assignments. At the one week mark we will notify the truancy office and week 2 unenroll your kid so as to stop wasting the time of our teachers/Admin Secretary/well being staff. Any questions?”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are only 2-6 good high schools in MoCo and people pay a lot to live there.

The other people buy cheap houses zoned for bad schools

If you believe that the only good schools are ones in neighborhoods with over-priced real estate, what do you think we as a society owe to people who truly cannot afford to live in those neighborhoods?

Surely, you also believe that an adequate education is a human right and the key to breaking cycles of generational poverty. Are you okay with real estate prices being the tool that creates a permanent underclass?

The slide began with eliminating finals, but that policy was a symptom of decline, not the cause. What we are calling pandemic learning loss was like a heart attack after the patient had a Krispy Kreme donut following a decade of daily Big Macs.

It is time for a true overhaul. But one that must include parental accountability as well. And buying a $900k house zoned to a W feeder doesn’t discharge your responsibility. Affluent parents need to advocate for a grading policy that supports rather than diminishes students learning time management and accountability skills. Affluent parents need to have constructive conversations with their children about the feedback teachers provide and not just react to low grades with angry emails and vitriolic DCUM posts. Your child didn’t get an A on homework because they really understand the concept. They got an A because that category only allows 100%, 90% (if late), and 50% (if never submitted). The C they got on classwork shows their true achievement.

I think you're mixing things up in your last paragraph.....

1) $900k won't get you anything to brag about in many W feeder areas. You can buy and find many $900k homes in the DCC area. You can definitely get a LARGER sized home for that $900k in the DCC zones compared to the Ws, but expensive housing is expensive throughout MoCo, with those prices decreasing on the fringes of the county. To get "cheap" housing, you really have to move outside of MoCo these days, which is why Frederick is booming.

2) You're talking about a group of wealthy parents who henpeck and screech if their child gets a B on an assignment and demands that their child be given a reassessment or insists the teacher wasn't fair or uses some other excuse to push for their kid to either get a higher grade or have a chance to boost their. To be sure, those parents are ANNOYING. But the shift in the grading was NOT because of this group of parents.

3) There's ANOTHER group of parents who usually are on the lower income side, who feel that every failure of their child's is the fault of the school. They don't look at their own chaotic home environment, nor do they possess an ounce of discipline and organization themselves, but they insist their child is doing poorly because the school system is wrong. Either the teacher is racist and that's why their kid is skipping class, or the teacher went too fast and didn't explain enough for the kid or they believe it's the teacher's job at the high school level to constantly remind their child to turn in assignments. These parents usually either push back whenever the school calls to intervene and always defends their child no matter how wrong the behavior. "Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing."

These parents, whose children continuously fail classes and fail to graduate, are the ones for whom the 50% rule on missing assignments and the 90/10 split of all tasks and practice prep were implemented for. It was done to lower the bar to make it easier to graduate. Because these parents don't actually care if their kids do WELL in school or class. But they do care if they get told their child cannot graduate high school. So this appeases them and makes them happy, and also helps the system look more "successful" since graduation rates go up when you lower the bar.

I love how you believe group#2 has bad behavior but group #1 is merely annoying. Group#1 cares if they’re student graduates, but also think their kid can do no wrong and is entitled to A’s. Group #1 sues for anything and everything which is what causes unnecessary attention and then makes folks afraid to enforce anything. “Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing,” comes from Group 1 as folks in your perceived Group 2 don’t even answer the phone.

I get this from the wealthy parents as well: Unbeknownst to MCPS, school should not have been in session from 10/31 to 11/10. This was a time for families to take vacations before the holidays. As a teacher, I’m stupid already, but I was really an idiot to teach anything new the last two weeks since their child was on a cruise/visiting cousins/in the south of France. I just want to spoil their fun.

We took our kids out of ES yearly for a fall trip. It's cheaper, weather is nicer and less crowded. What is the big deal? We heavily supplemented at home and they were fine.

Because school is IN session. You sound dumb. What if EVERY kid did what you are doing - a class full of 28 kids just randomly taking off a week or two because prices or cheaper. That is disruptive and it is inconsiderate of the school and teacher's time and planning. Don't you think EVERYONE wants to take a cheaper vacation than the prices in the Spring or summer??? You should just accept that you can't afford to travel to places you want to go and go somewhere cheaper in the summer and Spring. That's what most people with your income level do.

Then come up with a better curriculum so our kids aren’t bored. Not my problem. One less kid makes things easier. If you want them to do the work, then give it to me and we will teach it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Take a look at Baltimore city schools - that is where mcps is headed. Seems like a good time
to open a new private school in moco. So many disgruntled teachers to hire as well.

Catholics should ask the Archbishop of Maryland to open new schools. We also need charters if MCPS is unwilling to change things. I started noticing the decline in 2014.

We had a charter and it was a miserable failure.

That is because the ladies who ran it are frauds and asshats. Pick someone else and it might be successful.

We don’t need charters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There are only 2-6 good high schools in MoCo and people pay a lot to live there.

The other people buy cheap houses zoned for bad schools

If you believe that the only good schools are ones in neighborhoods with over-priced real estate, what do you think we as a society owe to people who truly cannot afford to live in those neighborhoods?

Surely, you also believe that an adequate education is a human right and the key to breaking cycles of generational poverty. Are you okay with real estate prices being the tool that creates a permanent underclass?

The slide began with eliminating finals, but that policy was a symptom of decline, not the cause. What we are calling pandemic learning loss was like a heart attack after the patient had a Krispy Kreme donut following a decade of daily Big Macs.

It is time for a true overhaul. But one that must include parental accountability as well. And buying a $900k house zoned to a W feeder doesn’t discharge your responsibility. Affluent parents need to advocate for a grading policy that supports rather than diminishes students learning time management and accountability skills. Affluent parents need to have constructive conversations with their children about the feedback teachers provide and not just react to low grades with angry emails and vitriolic DCUM posts. Your child didn’t get an A on homework because they really understand the concept. They got an A because that category only allows 100%, 90% (if late), and 50% (if never submitted). The C they got on classwork shows their true achievement.

I think you're mixing things up in your last paragraph.....

1) $900k won't get you anything to brag about in many W feeder areas. You can buy and find many $900k homes in the DCC area. You can definitely get a LARGER sized home for that $900k in the DCC zones compared to the Ws, but expensive housing is expensive throughout MoCo, with those prices decreasing on the fringes of the county. To get "cheap" housing, you really have to move outside of MoCo these days, which is why Frederick is booming.

2) You're talking about a group of wealthy parents who henpeck and screech if their child gets a B on an assignment and demands that their child be given a reassessment or insists the teacher wasn't fair or uses some other excuse to push for their kid to either get a higher grade or have a chance to boost their. To be sure, those parents are ANNOYING. But the shift in the grading was NOT because of this group of parents.

3) There's ANOTHER group of parents who usually are on the lower income side, who feel that every failure of their child's is the fault of the school. They don't look at their own chaotic home environment, nor do they possess an ounce of discipline and organization themselves, but they insist their child is doing poorly because the school system is wrong. Either the teacher is racist and that's why their kid is skipping class, or the teacher went too fast and didn't explain enough for the kid or they believe it's the teacher's job at the high school level to constantly remind their child to turn in assignments. These parents usually either push back whenever the school calls to intervene and always defends their child no matter how wrong the behavior. "Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing."

These parents, whose children continuously fail classes and fail to graduate, are the ones for whom the 50% rule on missing assignments and the 90/10 split of all tasks and practice prep were implemented for. It was done to lower the bar to make it easier to graduate. Because these parents don't actually care if their kids do WELL in school or class. But they do care if they get told their child cannot graduate high school. So this appeases them and makes them happy, and also helps the system look more "successful" since graduation rates go up when you lower the bar.

I love how you believe group#2 has bad behavior but group #1 is merely annoying. Group#1 cares if they’re student graduates, but also think their kid can do no wrong and is entitled to A’s. Group #1 sues for anything and everything which is what causes unnecessary attention and then makes folks afraid to enforce anything. “Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing,” comes from Group 1 as folks in your perceived Group 2 don’t even answer the phone.

I get this from the wealthy parents as well: Unbeknownst to MCPS, school should not have been in session from 10/31 to 11/10. This was a time for families to take vacations before the holidays. As a teacher, I’m stupid already, but I was really an idiot to teach anything new the last two weeks since their child was on a cruise/visiting cousins/in the south of France. I just want to spoil their fun.

We took our kids out of ES yearly for a fall trip. It's cheaper, weather is nicer and less crowded. What is the big deal? We heavily supplemented at home and they were fine.

Because school is IN session. You sound dumb. What if EVERY kid did what you are doing - a class full of 28 kids just randomly taking off a week or two because prices or cheaper. That is disruptive and it is inconsiderate of the school and teacher's time and planning. Don't you think EVERYONE wants to take a cheaper vacation than the prices in the Spring or summer??? You should just accept that you can't afford to travel to places you want to go and go somewhere cheaper in the summer and Spring. That's what most people with your income level do.

Then come up with a better curriculum so our kids aren’t bored. Not my problem. One less kid makes things easier. If you want them to do the work, then give it to me and we will teach it.

Lmao DP… you’re delusional. Seek the help you need then homeschool.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Take a look at Baltimore city schools - that is where mcps is headed. Seems like a good time
to open a new private school in moco. So many disgruntled teachers to hire as well.

Catholics should ask the Archbishop of Maryland to open new schools. We also need charters if MCPS is unwilling to change things. I started noticing the decline in 2014.

We had a charter and it was a miserable failure.

That is because the ladies who ran it are frauds and asshats. Pick someone else and it might be successful.

Very few have ever been run by anyone but frauds. They're all in it to skim money from kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are only 2-6 good high schools in MoCo and people pay a lot to live there.

The other people buy cheap houses zoned for bad schools

If you believe that the only good schools are ones in neighborhoods with over-priced real estate, what do you think we as a society owe to people who truly cannot afford to live in those neighborhoods?

Surely, you also believe that an adequate education is a human right and the key to breaking cycles of generational poverty. Are you okay with real estate prices being the tool that creates a permanent underclass?

The slide began with eliminating finals, but that policy was a symptom of decline, not the cause. What we are calling pandemic learning loss was like a heart attack after the patient had a Krispy Kreme donut following a decade of daily Big Macs.

It is time for a true overhaul. But one that must include parental accountability as well. And buying a $900k house zoned to a W feeder doesn’t discharge your responsibility. Affluent parents need to advocate for a grading policy that supports rather than diminishes students learning time management and accountability skills. Affluent parents need to have constructive conversations with their children about the feedback teachers provide and not just react to low grades with angry emails and vitriolic DCUM posts. Your child didn’t get an A on homework because they really understand the concept. They got an A because that category only allows 100%, 90% (if late), and 50% (if never submitted). The C they got on classwork shows their true achievement.

I think you're mixing things up in your last paragraph.....

1) $900k won't get you anything to brag about in many W feeder areas. You can buy and find many $900k homes in the DCC area. You can definitely get a LARGER sized home for that $900k in the DCC zones compared to the Ws, but expensive housing is expensive throughout MoCo, with those prices decreasing on the fringes of the county. To get "cheap" housing, you really have to move outside of MoCo these days, which is why Frederick is booming.

2) You're talking about a group of wealthy parents who henpeck and screech if their child gets a B on an assignment and demands that their child be given a reassessment or insists the teacher wasn't fair or uses some other excuse to push for their kid to either get a higher grade or have a chance to boost their. To be sure, those parents are ANNOYING. But the shift in the grading was NOT because of this group of parents.

3) There's ANOTHER group of parents who usually are on the lower income side, who feel that every failure of their child's is the fault of the school. They don't look at their own chaotic home environment, nor do they possess an ounce of discipline and organization themselves, but they insist their child is doing poorly because the school system is wrong. Either the teacher is racist and that's why their kid is skipping class, or the teacher went too fast and didn't explain enough for the kid or they believe it's the teacher's job at the high school level to constantly remind their child to turn in assignments. These parents usually either push back whenever the school calls to intervene and always defends their child no matter how wrong the behavior. "Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing."

These parents, whose children continuously fail classes and fail to graduate, are the ones for whom the 50% rule on missing assignments and the 90/10 split of all tasks and practice prep were implemented for. It was done to lower the bar to make it easier to graduate. Because these parents don't actually care if their kids do WELL in school or class. But they do care if they get told their child cannot graduate high school. So this appeases them and makes them happy, and also helps the system look more "successful" since graduation rates go up when you lower the bar.

I love how you believe group#2 has bad behavior but group #1 is merely annoying. Group#1 cares if they’re student graduates, but also think their kid can do no wrong and is entitled to A’s. Group #1 sues for anything and everything which is what causes unnecessary attention and then makes folks afraid to enforce anything. “Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing,” comes from Group 1 as folks in your perceived Group 2 don’t even answer the phone.

I get this from the wealthy parents as well: Unbeknownst to MCPS, school should not have been in session from 10/31 to 11/10. This was a time for families to take vacations before the holidays. As a teacher, I’m stupid already, but I was really an idiot to teach anything new the last two weeks since their child was on a cruise/visiting cousins/in the south of France. I just want to spoil their fun.

We took our kids out of ES yearly for a fall trip. It's cheaper, weather is nicer and less crowded. What is the big deal? We heavily supplemented at home and they were fine.

Because school is IN session. You sound dumb. What if EVERY kid did what you are doing - a class full of 28 kids just randomly taking off a week or two because prices or cheaper. That is disruptive and it is inconsiderate of the school and teacher's time and planning. Don't you think EVERYONE wants to take a cheaper vacation than the prices in the Spring or summer??? You should just accept that you can't afford to travel to places you want to go and go somewhere cheaper in the summer and Spring. That's what most people with your income level do.

Then come up with a better curriculum so our kids aren’t bored. Not my problem. One less kid makes things easier. If you want them to do the work, then give it to me and we will teach it.

In MS and HS kids had some ability to take harder classes and be challenged but in ES these days it's pretty terrible. They only care about the lowest performing students and everyone else is ignored or they go out of their way to dumb them down by ignoring them and making them literally hate school.