Teacher exposes the craptastic decline iof MCPS in Reddit rant

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are only 2-6 good high schools in MoCo and people pay a lot to live there.

The other people buy cheap houses zoned for bad schools

If you believe that the only good schools are ones in neighborhoods with over-priced real estate, what do you think we as a society owe to people who truly cannot afford to live in those neighborhoods?

Surely, you also believe that an adequate education is a human right and the key to breaking cycles of generational poverty. Are you okay with real estate prices being the tool that creates a permanent underclass?

The slide began with eliminating finals, but that policy was a symptom of decline, not the cause. What we are calling pandemic learning loss was like a heart attack after the patient had a Krispy Kreme donut following a decade of daily Big Macs.

It is time for a true overhaul. But one that must include parental accountability as well. And buying a $900k house zoned to a W feeder doesn’t discharge your responsibility. Affluent parents need to advocate for a grading policy that supports rather than diminishes students learning time management and accountability skills. Affluent parents need to have constructive conversations with their children about the feedback teachers provide and not just react to low grades with angry emails and vitriolic DCUM posts. Your child didn’t get an A on homework because they really understand the concept. They got an A because that category only allows 100%, 90% (if late), and 50% (if never submitted). The C they got on classwork shows their true achievement.

I think you're mixing things up in your last paragraph.....

1) $900k won't get you anything to brag about in many W feeder areas. You can buy and find many $900k homes in the DCC area. You can definitely get a LARGER sized home for that $900k in the DCC zones compared to the Ws, but expensive housing is expensive throughout MoCo, with those prices decreasing on the fringes of the county. To get "cheap" housing, you really have to move outside of MoCo these days, which is why Frederick is booming.

2) You're talking about a group of wealthy parents who henpeck and screech if their child gets a B on an assignment and demands that their child be given a reassessment or insists the teacher wasn't fair or uses some other excuse to push for their kid to either get a higher grade or have a chance to boost their. To be sure, those parents are ANNOYING. But the shift in the grading was NOT because of this group of parents.

3) There's ANOTHER group of parents who usually are on the lower income side, who feel that every failure of their child's is the fault of the school. They don't look at their own chaotic home environment, nor do they possess an ounce of discipline and organization themselves, but they insist their child is doing poorly because the school system is wrong. Either the teacher is racist and that's why their kid is skipping class, or the teacher went too fast and didn't explain enough for the kid or they believe it's the teacher's job at the high school level to constantly remind their child to turn in assignments. These parents usually either push back whenever the school calls to intervene and always defends their child no matter how wrong the behavior. "Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing."

These parents, whose children continuously fail classes and fail to graduate, are the ones for whom the 50% rule on missing assignments and the 90/10 split of all tasks and practice prep were implemented for. It was done to lower the bar to make it easier to graduate. Because these parents don't actually care if their kids do WELL in school or class. But they do care if they get told their child cannot graduate high school. So this appeases them and makes them happy, and also helps the system look more "successful" since graduation rates go up when you lower the bar.

I love how you believe group#2 has bad behavior but group #1 is merely annoying. Group#1 cares if they’re student graduates, but also think their kid can do no wrong and is entitled to A’s. Group #1 sues for anything and everything which is what causes unnecessary attention and then makes folks afraid to enforce anything. “Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing,” comes from Group 1 as folks in your perceived Group 2 don’t even answer the phone.

I get this from the wealthy parents as well: Unbeknownst to MCPS, school should not have been in session from 10/31 to 11/10. This was a time for families to take vacations before the holidays. As a teacher, I’m stupid already, but I was really an idiot to teach anything new the last two weeks since their child was on a cruise/visiting cousins/in the south of France. I just want to spoil their fun.

We took our kids out of ES yearly for a fall trip. It's cheaper, weather is nicer and less crowded. What is the big deal? We heavily supplemented at home and they were fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These posters obsessed with the 50% rule are misguided. There are dozens of far greater issues facing our schools including a lack of emphasise on academics.

I think the people complaining about the 50% rule view that as interlinked with the lack of emphasis on academics......because how can you have a focus on academic excellence when a kid can get 50% for doing nothing? Those two things aren't compatible.

50% is still failing. What bearing does that have on the rigor of a class or its assignments, or the supports in place to assist students. Those are the things that deal with academic excellence.

You can't have a culture and standard of academic excellence if you've manipulated the bar to make it easy to get away with doing the bare minimum. I don't know why this is difficult for you to comprehend.

They aren't. The bar is whatever they decide it is. Why are you so obsessed with this?

Why are you so obsessed with convincing who don't think the 50% rule is ok that it is ok? You don't see an issue with it. Fine. Others do. Ok. Move on and agree to disagree.

NP. I'm not going to dive into the weeds. But just wanted to note that people who are upset about the 50% rule usually care because it negatively affects their own kids. I have one kid who just wouldn't get with the program-- missed deadlines; turned in bad work. The 50% rule enabled the behavior because it wasn't enough of a penalty. (Don't get me started on the liberal makeup policy-- I get that it helps some kids, but it is a HUGE problem for my kid because I can't enforce deadlines effectively if mcps rules tell late work/bad work is no big deal.)

I'm probably not going to check this thread again, so bash me or don't bash, doesn't matter. But I feel like many posters say parents should stop complaining about these easy rules because they are meant for some other population-- they should focus on their own kids and let that other population take advantage of the lax rules. But when MCPS outlines very easy policies, all kids (including *MY* kids) get the impression they don't need to work hard, meet deadlines, turn in good work the first time. So it makes my parenting so much harder and less effective.

What are you doing about it? Are you working with the teachers, checking the assignments daily?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are only 2-6 good high schools in MoCo and people pay a lot to live there.

The other people buy cheap houses zoned for bad schools

If you believe that the only good schools are ones in neighborhoods with over-priced real estate, what do you think we as a society owe to people who truly cannot afford to live in those neighborhoods?

Surely, you also believe that an adequate education is a human right and the key to breaking cycles of generational poverty. Are you okay with real estate prices being the tool that creates a permanent underclass?

The slide began with eliminating finals, but that policy was a symptom of decline, not the cause. What we are calling pandemic learning loss was like a heart attack after the patient had a Krispy Kreme donut following a decade of daily Big Macs.

It is time for a true overhaul. But one that must include parental accountability as well. And buying a $900k house zoned to a W feeder doesn’t discharge your responsibility. Affluent parents need to advocate for a grading policy that supports rather than diminishes students learning time management and accountability skills. Affluent parents need to have constructive conversations with their children about the feedback teachers provide and not just react to low grades with angry emails and vitriolic DCUM posts. Your child didn’t get an A on homework because they really understand the concept. They got an A because that category only allows 100%, 90% (if late), and 50% (if never submitted). The C they got on classwork shows their true achievement.

I think you're mixing things up in your last paragraph.....

1) $900k won't get you anything to brag about in many W feeder areas. You can buy and find many $900k homes in the DCC area. You can definitely get a LARGER sized home for that $900k in the DCC zones compared to the Ws, but expensive housing is expensive throughout MoCo, with those prices decreasing on the fringes of the county. To get "cheap" housing, you really have to move outside of MoCo these days, which is why Frederick is booming.

2) You're talking about a group of wealthy parents who henpeck and screech if their child gets a B on an assignment and demands that their child be given a reassessment or insists the teacher wasn't fair or uses some other excuse to push for their kid to either get a higher grade or have a chance to boost their. To be sure, those parents are ANNOYING. But the shift in the grading was NOT because of this group of parents.

3) There's ANOTHER group of parents who usually are on the lower income side, who feel that every failure of their child's is the fault of the school. They don't look at their own chaotic home environment, nor do they possess an ounce of discipline and organization themselves, but they insist their child is doing poorly because the school system is wrong. Either the teacher is racist and that's why their kid is skipping class, or the teacher went too fast and didn't explain enough for the kid or they believe it's the teacher's job at the high school level to constantly remind their child to turn in assignments. These parents usually either push back whenever the school calls to intervene and always defends their child no matter how wrong the behavior. "Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing."

These parents, whose children continuously fail classes and fail to graduate, are the ones for whom the 50% rule on missing assignments and the 90/10 split of all tasks and practice prep were implemented for. It was done to lower the bar to make it easier to graduate. Because these parents don't actually care if their kids do WELL in school or class. But they do care if they get told their child cannot graduate high school. So this appeases them and makes them happy, and also helps the system look more "successful" since graduation rates go up when you lower the bar.

I love how you believe group#2 has bad behavior but group #1 is merely annoying. Group#1 cares if they’re student graduates, but also think their kid can do no wrong and is entitled to A’s. Group #1 sues for anything and everything which is what causes unnecessary attention and then makes folks afraid to enforce anything. “Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing,” comes from Group 1 as folks in your perceived Group 2 don’t even answer the phone.

I get this from the wealthy parents as well: Unbeknownst to MCPS, school should not have been in session from 10/31 to 11/10. This was a time for families to take vacations before the holidays. As a teacher, I’m stupid already, but I was really an idiot to teach anything new the last two weeks since their child was on a cruise/visiting cousins/in the south of France. I just want to spoil their fun.

We took our kids out of ES yearly for a fall trip. It's cheaper, weather is nicer and less crowded. What is the big deal? We heavily supplemented at home and they were fine.

Your entitlement and selfishness are showing. Doing this one year, I can understand. But doing this annually and feeling justified because you supplement at home? Entitled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are only 2-6 good high schools in MoCo and people pay a lot to live there.

The other people buy cheap houses zoned for bad schools

If you believe that the only good schools are ones in neighborhoods with over-priced real estate, what do you think we as a society owe to people who truly cannot afford to live in those neighborhoods?

Surely, you also believe that an adequate education is a human right and the key to breaking cycles of generational poverty. Are you okay with real estate prices being the tool that creates a permanent underclass?

The slide began with eliminating finals, but that policy was a symptom of decline, not the cause. What we are calling pandemic learning loss was like a heart attack after the patient had a Krispy Kreme donut following a decade of daily Big Macs.

It is time for a true overhaul. But one that must include parental accountability as well. And buying a $900k house zoned to a W feeder doesn’t discharge your responsibility. Affluent parents need to advocate for a grading policy that supports rather than diminishes students learning time management and accountability skills. Affluent parents need to have constructive conversations with their children about the feedback teachers provide and not just react to low grades with angry emails and vitriolic DCUM posts. Your child didn’t get an A on homework because they really understand the concept. They got an A because that category only allows 100%, 90% (if late), and 50% (if never submitted). The C they got on classwork shows their true achievement.

I think you're mixing things up in your last paragraph.....

1) $900k won't get you anything to brag about in many W feeder areas. You can buy and find many $900k homes in the DCC area. You can definitely get a LARGER sized home for that $900k in the DCC zones compared to the Ws, but expensive housing is expensive throughout MoCo, with those prices decreasing on the fringes of the county. To get "cheap" housing, you really have to move outside of MoCo these days, which is why Frederick is booming.

2) You're talking about a group of wealthy parents who henpeck and screech if their child gets a B on an assignment and demands that their child be given a reassessment or insists the teacher wasn't fair or uses some other excuse to push for their kid to either get a higher grade or have a chance to boost their. To be sure, those parents are ANNOYING. But the shift in the grading was NOT because of this group of parents.

3) There's ANOTHER group of parents who usually are on the lower income side, who feel that every failure of their child's is the fault of the school. They don't look at their own chaotic home environment, nor do they possess an ounce of discipline and organization themselves, but they insist their child is doing poorly because the school system is wrong. Either the teacher is racist and that's why their kid is skipping class, or the teacher went too fast and didn't explain enough for the kid or they believe it's the teacher's job at the high school level to constantly remind their child to turn in assignments. These parents usually either push back whenever the school calls to intervene and always defends their child no matter how wrong the behavior. "Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing."

These parents, whose children continuously fail classes and fail to graduate, are the ones for whom the 50% rule on missing assignments and the 90/10 split of all tasks and practice prep were implemented for. It was done to lower the bar to make it easier to graduate. Because these parents don't actually care if their kids do WELL in school or class. But they do care if they get told their child cannot graduate high school. So this appeases them and makes them happy, and also helps the system look more "successful" since graduation rates go up when you lower the bar.

I love how you believe group#2 has bad behavior but group #1 is merely annoying. Group#1 cares if they’re student graduates, but also think their kid can do no wrong and is entitled to A’s. Group #1 sues for anything and everything which is what causes unnecessary attention and then makes folks afraid to enforce anything. “Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing,” comes from Group 1 as folks in your perceived Group 2 don’t even answer the phone.

I get this from the wealthy parents as well: Unbeknownst to MCPS, school should not have been in session from 10/31 to 11/10. This was a time for families to take vacations before the holidays. As a teacher, I’m stupid already, but I was really an idiot to teach anything new the last two weeks since their child was on a cruise/visiting cousins/in the south of France. I just want to spoil their fun.

We took our kids out of ES yearly for a fall trip. It's cheaper, weather is nicer and less crowded. What is the big deal? We heavily supplemented at home and they were fine.

Your entitlement and selfishness are showing. Doing this one year, I can understand. But doing this annually and feeling justified because you supplement at home? Entitled.

+1000%. When did the school calendar become optional every year. If you want more flexibility with the schedule, homeschool.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are only 2-6 good high schools in MoCo and people pay a lot to live there.

The other people buy cheap houses zoned for bad schools

If you believe that the only good schools are ones in neighborhoods with over-priced real estate, what do you think we as a society owe to people who truly cannot afford to live in those neighborhoods?

Surely, you also believe that an adequate education is a human right and the key to breaking cycles of generational poverty. Are you okay with real estate prices being the tool that creates a permanent underclass?

The slide began with eliminating finals, but that policy was a symptom of decline, not the cause. What we are calling pandemic learning loss was like a heart attack after the patient had a Krispy Kreme donut following a decade of daily Big Macs.

It is time for a true overhaul. But one that must include parental accountability as well. And buying a $900k house zoned to a W feeder doesn’t discharge your responsibility. Affluent parents need to advocate for a grading policy that supports rather than diminishes students learning time management and accountability skills. Affluent parents need to have constructive conversations with their children about the feedback teachers provide and not just react to low grades with angry emails and vitriolic DCUM posts. Your child didn’t get an A on homework because they really understand the concept. They got an A because that category only allows 100%, 90% (if late), and 50% (if never submitted). The C they got on classwork shows their true achievement.

I think you're mixing things up in your last paragraph.....

1) $900k won't get you anything to brag about in many W feeder areas. You can buy and find many $900k homes in the DCC area. You can definitely get a LARGER sized home for that $900k in the DCC zones compared to the Ws, but expensive housing is expensive throughout MoCo, with those prices decreasing on the fringes of the county. To get "cheap" housing, you really have to move outside of MoCo these days, which is why Frederick is booming.

2) You're talking about a group of wealthy parents who henpeck and screech if their child gets a B on an assignment and demands that their child be given a reassessment or insists the teacher wasn't fair or uses some other excuse to push for their kid to either get a higher grade or have a chance to boost their. To be sure, those parents are ANNOYING. But the shift in the grading was NOT because of this group of parents.

3) There's ANOTHER group of parents who usually are on the lower income side, who feel that every failure of their child's is the fault of the school. They don't look at their own chaotic home environment, nor do they possess an ounce of discipline and organization themselves, but they insist their child is doing poorly because the school system is wrong. Either the teacher is racist and that's why their kid is skipping class, or the teacher went too fast and didn't explain enough for the kid or they believe it's the teacher's job at the high school level to constantly remind their child to turn in assignments. These parents usually either push back whenever the school calls to intervene and always defends their child no matter how wrong the behavior. "Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing."

These parents, whose children continuously fail classes and fail to graduate, are the ones for whom the 50% rule on missing assignments and the 90/10 split of all tasks and practice prep were implemented for. It was done to lower the bar to make it easier to graduate. Because these parents don't actually care if their kids do WELL in school or class. But they do care if they get told their child cannot graduate high school. So this appeases them and makes them happy, and also helps the system look more "successful" since graduation rates go up when you lower the bar.

I love how you believe group#2 has bad behavior but group #1 is merely annoying. Group#1 cares if they’re student graduates, but also think their kid can do no wrong and is entitled to A’s. Group #1 sues for anything and everything which is what causes unnecessary attention and then makes folks afraid to enforce anything. “Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing,” comes from Group 1 as folks in your perceived Group 2 don’t even answer the phone.

I get this from the wealthy parents as well: Unbeknownst to MCPS, school should not have been in session from 10/31 to 11/10. This was a time for families to take vacations before the holidays. As a teacher, I’m stupid already, but I was really an idiot to teach anything new the last two weeks since their child was on a cruise/visiting cousins/in the south of France. I just want to spoil their fun.

We took our kids out of ES yearly for a fall trip. It's cheaper, weather is nicer and less crowded. What is the big deal? We heavily supplemented at home and they were fine.

Your entitlement and selfishness are showing. Doing this one year, I can understand. But doing this annually and feeling justified because you supplement at home? Entitled.

You have to supplement at home these days. If you kid is on grade level, they are ignored since the school knows that mom and dad will pick up their slack.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are only 2-6 good high schools in MoCo and people pay a lot to live there.

The other people buy cheap houses zoned for bad schools

If you believe that the only good schools are ones in neighborhoods with over-priced real estate, what do you think we as a society owe to people who truly cannot afford to live in those neighborhoods?

Surely, you also believe that an adequate education is a human right and the key to breaking cycles of generational poverty. Are you okay with real estate prices being the tool that creates a permanent underclass?

The slide began with eliminating finals, but that policy was a symptom of decline, not the cause. What we are calling pandemic learning loss was like a heart attack after the patient had a Krispy Kreme donut following a decade of daily Big Macs.

It is time for a true overhaul. But one that must include parental accountability as well. And buying a $900k house zoned to a W feeder doesn’t discharge your responsibility. Affluent parents need to advocate for a grading policy that supports rather than diminishes students learning time management and accountability skills. Affluent parents need to have constructive conversations with their children about the feedback teachers provide and not just react to low grades with angry emails and vitriolic DCUM posts. Your child didn’t get an A on homework because they really understand the concept. They got an A because that category only allows 100%, 90% (if late), and 50% (if never submitted). The C they got on classwork shows their true achievement.

I think you're mixing things up in your last paragraph.....

1) $900k won't get you anything to brag about in many W feeder areas. You can buy and find many $900k homes in the DCC area. You can definitely get a LARGER sized home for that $900k in the DCC zones compared to the Ws, but expensive housing is expensive throughout MoCo, with those prices decreasing on the fringes of the county. To get "cheap" housing, you really have to move outside of MoCo these days, which is why Frederick is booming.

2) You're talking about a group of wealthy parents who henpeck and screech if their child gets a B on an assignment and demands that their child be given a reassessment or insists the teacher wasn't fair or uses some other excuse to push for their kid to either get a higher grade or have a chance to boost their. To be sure, those parents are ANNOYING. But the shift in the grading was NOT because of this group of parents.

3) There's ANOTHER group of parents who usually are on the lower income side, who feel that every failure of their child's is the fault of the school. They don't look at their own chaotic home environment, nor do they possess an ounce of discipline and organization themselves, but they insist their child is doing poorly because the school system is wrong. Either the teacher is racist and that's why their kid is skipping class, or the teacher went too fast and didn't explain enough for the kid or they believe it's the teacher's job at the high school level to constantly remind their child to turn in assignments. These parents usually either push back whenever the school calls to intervene and always defends their child no matter how wrong the behavior. "Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing."

These parents, whose children continuously fail classes and fail to graduate, are the ones for whom the 50% rule on missing assignments and the 90/10 split of all tasks and practice prep were implemented for. It was done to lower the bar to make it easier to graduate. Because these parents don't actually care if their kids do WELL in school or class. But they do care if they get told their child cannot graduate high school. So this appeases them and makes them happy, and also helps the system look more "successful" since graduation rates go up when you lower the bar.

I love how you believe group#2 has bad behavior but group #1 is merely annoying. Group#1 cares if they’re student graduates, but also think their kid can do no wrong and is entitled to A’s. Group #1 sues for anything and everything which is what causes unnecessary attention and then makes folks afraid to enforce anything. “Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing,” comes from Group 1 as folks in your perceived Group 2 don’t even answer the phone.

I get this from the wealthy parents as well: Unbeknownst to MCPS, school should not have been in session from 10/31 to 11/10. This was a time for families to take vacations before the holidays. As a teacher, I’m stupid already, but I was really an idiot to teach anything new the last two weeks since their child was on a cruise/visiting cousins/in the south of France. I just want to spoil their fun.

We took our kids out of ES yearly for a fall trip. It's cheaper, weather is nicer and less crowded. What is the big deal? We heavily supplemented at home and they were fine.

Your entitlement and selfishness are showing. Doing this one year, I can understand. But doing this annually and feeling justified because you supplement at home? Entitled.

Why do you care what PP does? Parent your own kid. -NP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are only 2-6 good high schools in MoCo and people pay a lot to live there.

The other people buy cheap houses zoned for bad schools

If you believe that the only good schools are ones in neighborhoods with over-priced real estate, what do you think we as a society owe to people who truly cannot afford to live in those neighborhoods?

Surely, you also believe that an adequate education is a human right and the key to breaking cycles of generational poverty. Are you okay with real estate prices being the tool that creates a permanent underclass?

The slide began with eliminating finals, but that policy was a symptom of decline, not the cause. What we are calling pandemic learning loss was like a heart attack after the patient had a Krispy Kreme donut following a decade of daily Big Macs.

It is time for a true overhaul. But one that must include parental accountability as well. And buying a $900k house zoned to a W feeder doesn’t discharge your responsibility. Affluent parents need to advocate for a grading policy that supports rather than diminishes students learning time management and accountability skills. Affluent parents need to have constructive conversations with their children about the feedback teachers provide and not just react to low grades with angry emails and vitriolic DCUM posts. Your child didn’t get an A on homework because they really understand the concept. They got an A because that category only allows 100%, 90% (if late), and 50% (if never submitted). The C they got on classwork shows their true achievement.

I think you're mixing things up in your last paragraph.....

1) $900k won't get you anything to brag about in many W feeder areas. You can buy and find many $900k homes in the DCC area. You can definitely get a LARGER sized home for that $900k in the DCC zones compared to the Ws, but expensive housing is expensive throughout MoCo, with those prices decreasing on the fringes of the county. To get "cheap" housing, you really have to move outside of MoCo these days, which is why Frederick is booming.

2) You're talking about a group of wealthy parents who henpeck and screech if their child gets a B on an assignment and demands that their child be given a reassessment or insists the teacher wasn't fair or uses some other excuse to push for their kid to either get a higher grade or have a chance to boost their. To be sure, those parents are ANNOYING. But the shift in the grading was NOT because of this group of parents.

3) There's ANOTHER group of parents who usually are on the lower income side, who feel that every failure of their child's is the fault of the school. They don't look at their own chaotic home environment, nor do they possess an ounce of discipline and organization themselves, but they insist their child is doing poorly because the school system is wrong. Either the teacher is racist and that's why their kid is skipping class, or the teacher went too fast and didn't explain enough for the kid or they believe it's the teacher's job at the high school level to constantly remind their child to turn in assignments. These parents usually either push back whenever the school calls to intervene and always defends their child no matter how wrong the behavior. "Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing."

These parents, whose children continuously fail classes and fail to graduate, are the ones for whom the 50% rule on missing assignments and the 90/10 split of all tasks and practice prep were implemented for. It was done to lower the bar to make it easier to graduate. Because these parents don't actually care if their kids do WELL in school or class. But they do care if they get told their child cannot graduate high school. So this appeases them and makes them happy, and also helps the system look more "successful" since graduation rates go up when you lower the bar.

I love how you believe group#2 has bad behavior but group #1 is merely annoying. Group#1 cares if they’re student graduates, but also think their kid can do no wrong and is entitled to A’s. Group #1 sues for anything and everything which is what causes unnecessary attention and then makes folks afraid to enforce anything. “Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing,” comes from Group 1 as folks in your perceived Group 2 don’t even answer the phone.

I get this from the wealthy parents as well: Unbeknownst to MCPS, school should not have been in session from 10/31 to 11/10. This was a time for families to take vacations before the holidays. As a teacher, I’m stupid already, but I was really an idiot to teach anything new the last two weeks since their child was on a cruise/visiting cousins/in the south of France. I just want to spoil their fun.

We took our kids out of ES yearly for a fall trip. It's cheaper, weather is nicer and less crowded. What is the big deal? We heavily supplemented at home and they were fine.

Your entitlement and selfishness are showing. Doing this one year, I can understand. But doing this annually and feeling justified because you supplement at home? Entitled.

Why do you care what PP does? Parent your own kid. -NP

Absenteeism in classmates can slow down the progress of an entire class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are only 2-6 good high schools in MoCo and people pay a lot to live there.

The other people buy cheap houses zoned for bad schools

If you believe that the only good schools are ones in neighborhoods with over-priced real estate, what do you think we as a society owe to people who truly cannot afford to live in those neighborhoods?

Surely, you also believe that an adequate education is a human right and the key to breaking cycles of generational poverty. Are you okay with real estate prices being the tool that creates a permanent underclass?

The slide began with eliminating finals, but that policy was a symptom of decline, not the cause. What we are calling pandemic learning loss was like a heart attack after the patient had a Krispy Kreme donut following a decade of daily Big Macs.

It is time for a true overhaul. But one that must include parental accountability as well. And buying a $900k house zoned to a W feeder doesn’t discharge your responsibility. Affluent parents need to advocate for a grading policy that supports rather than diminishes students learning time management and accountability skills. Affluent parents need to have constructive conversations with their children about the feedback teachers provide and not just react to low grades with angry emails and vitriolic DCUM posts. Your child didn’t get an A on homework because they really understand the concept. They got an A because that category only allows 100%, 90% (if late), and 50% (if never submitted). The C they got on classwork shows their true achievement.

I think you're mixing things up in your last paragraph.....

1) $900k won't get you anything to brag about in many W feeder areas. You can buy and find many $900k homes in the DCC area. You can definitely get a LARGER sized home for that $900k in the DCC zones compared to the Ws, but expensive housing is expensive throughout MoCo, with those prices decreasing on the fringes of the county. To get "cheap" housing, you really have to move outside of MoCo these days, which is why Frederick is booming.

2) You're talking about a group of wealthy parents who henpeck and screech if their child gets a B on an assignment and demands that their child be given a reassessment or insists the teacher wasn't fair or uses some other excuse to push for their kid to either get a higher grade or have a chance to boost their. To be sure, those parents are ANNOYING. But the shift in the grading was NOT because of this group of parents.

3) There's ANOTHER group of parents who usually are on the lower income side, who feel that every failure of their child's is the fault of the school. They don't look at their own chaotic home environment, nor do they possess an ounce of discipline and organization themselves, but they insist their child is doing poorly because the school system is wrong. Either the teacher is racist and that's why their kid is skipping class, or the teacher went too fast and didn't explain enough for the kid or they believe it's the teacher's job at the high school level to constantly remind their child to turn in assignments. These parents usually either push back whenever the school calls to intervene and always defends their child no matter how wrong the behavior. "Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing."

These parents, whose children continuously fail classes and fail to graduate, are the ones for whom the 50% rule on missing assignments and the 90/10 split of all tasks and practice prep were implemented for. It was done to lower the bar to make it easier to graduate. Because these parents don't actually care if their kids do WELL in school or class. But they do care if they get told their child cannot graduate high school. So this appeases them and makes them happy, and also helps the system look more "successful" since graduation rates go up when you lower the bar.

I love how you believe group#2 has bad behavior but group #1 is merely annoying. Group#1 cares if they’re student graduates, but also think their kid can do no wrong and is entitled to A’s. Group #1 sues for anything and everything which is what causes unnecessary attention and then makes folks afraid to enforce anything. “Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing,” comes from Group 1 as folks in your perceived Group 2 don’t even answer the phone.

I get this from the wealthy parents as well: Unbeknownst to MCPS, school should not have been in session from 10/31 to 11/10. This was a time for families to take vacations before the holidays. As a teacher, I’m stupid already, but I was really an idiot to teach anything new the last two weeks since their child was on a cruise/visiting cousins/in the south of France. I just want to spoil their fun.

We took our kids out of ES yearly for a fall trip. It's cheaper, weather is nicer and less crowded. What is the big deal? We heavily supplemented at home and they were fine.

Your entitlement and selfishness are showing. Doing this one year, I can understand. But doing this annually and feeling justified because you supplement at home? Entitled.

+1000%. When did the school calendar become optional every year. If you want more flexibility with the schedule, homeschool.

Well religious abscenes are all excused and my personal religion says that any day can be a religious day.

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Anonymous wrote:There are only 2-6 good high schools in MoCo and people pay a lot to live there.

The other people buy cheap houses zoned for bad schools

If you believe that the only good schools are ones in neighborhoods with over-priced real estate, what do you think we as a society owe to people who truly cannot afford to live in those neighborhoods?

Surely, you also believe that an adequate education is a human right and the key to breaking cycles of generational poverty. Are you okay with real estate prices being the tool that creates a permanent underclass?

The slide began with eliminating finals, but that policy was a symptom of decline, not the cause. What we are calling pandemic learning loss was like a heart attack after the patient had a Krispy Kreme donut following a decade of daily Big Macs.

It is time for a true overhaul. But one that must include parental accountability as well. And buying a $900k house zoned to a W feeder doesn’t discharge your responsibility. Affluent parents need to advocate for a grading policy that supports rather than diminishes students learning time management and accountability skills. Affluent parents need to have constructive conversations with their children about the feedback teachers provide and not just react to low grades with angry emails and vitriolic DCUM posts. Your child didn’t get an A on homework because they really understand the concept. They got an A because that category only allows 100%, 90% (if late), and 50% (if never submitted). The C they got on classwork shows their true achievement.

I think you're mixing things up in your last paragraph.....

1) $900k won't get you anything to brag about in many W feeder areas. You can buy and find many $900k homes in the DCC area. You can definitely get a LARGER sized home for that $900k in the DCC zones compared to the Ws, but expensive housing is expensive throughout MoCo, with those prices decreasing on the fringes of the county. To get "cheap" housing, you really have to move outside of MoCo these days, which is why Frederick is booming.

2) You're talking about a group of wealthy parents who henpeck and screech if their child gets a B on an assignment and demands that their child be given a reassessment or insists the teacher wasn't fair or uses some other excuse to push for their kid to either get a higher grade or have a chance to boost their. To be sure, those parents are ANNOYING. But the shift in the grading was NOT because of this group of parents.

3) There's ANOTHER group of parents who usually are on the lower income side, who feel that every failure of their child's is the fault of the school. They don't look at their own chaotic home environment, nor do they possess an ounce of discipline and organization themselves, but they insist their child is doing poorly because the school system is wrong. Either the teacher is racist and that's why their kid is skipping class, or the teacher went too fast and didn't explain enough for the kid or they believe it's the teacher's job at the high school level to constantly remind their child to turn in assignments. These parents usually either push back whenever the school calls to intervene and always defends their child no matter how wrong the behavior. "Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing."

These parents, whose children continuously fail classes and fail to graduate, are the ones for whom the 50% rule on missing assignments and the 90/10 split of all tasks and practice prep were implemented for. It was done to lower the bar to make it easier to graduate. Because these parents don't actually care if their kids do WELL in school or class. But they do care if they get told their child cannot graduate high school. So this appeases them and makes them happy, and also helps the system look more "successful" since graduation rates go up when you lower the bar.

I love how you believe group#2 has bad behavior but group #1 is merely annoying. Group#1 cares if they’re student graduates, but also think their kid can do no wrong and is entitled to A’s. Group #1 sues for anything and everything which is what causes unnecessary attention and then makes folks afraid to enforce anything. “Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing,” comes from Group 1 as folks in your perceived Group 2 don’t even answer the phone.

I get this from the wealthy parents as well: Unbeknownst to MCPS, school should not have been in session from 10/31 to 11/10. This was a time for families to take vacations before the holidays. As a teacher, I’m stupid already, but I was really an idiot to teach anything new the last two weeks since their child was on a cruise/visiting cousins/in the south of France. I just want to spoil their fun.

We took our kids out of ES yearly for a fall trip. It's cheaper, weather is nicer and less crowded. What is the big deal? We heavily supplemented at home and they were fine.

Your entitlement and selfishness are showing. Doing this one year, I can understand. But doing this annually and feeling justified because you supplement at home? Entitled.

Why do you care what PP does? Parent your own kid. -NP

Absenteeism in classmates can slow down the progress of an entire class.

Nope. Class keeps going and that kid catches up. When Jack Smith took over, it was determined attendance didn't matter. If a family wants to take a trip in the fall, oh well. That's no different than the families that can't bother to make sure their kids get to school or the kids that cut school.

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Just had a girl leave for two months on vacation. I told her she'd be responsible for her making this up on her own or she'd fail my class. The attitude...."There's no way I'm doing work on MY vacation." Me: Then you'll fail. Her: You're just a b-word (she obviously said the actual word-this forum apparently doesn't allowing cussing)

I'm getting out ASAP.

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Anonymous wrote:Just had a girl leave for two months on vacation. I told her she'd be responsible for her making this up on her own or she'd fail my class. The attitude...."There's no way I'm doing work on MY vacation." Me: Then you'll fail. Her: You're just a b-word (she obviously said the actual word-this forum apparently doesn't allowing cussing)

I'm getting out ASAP.

This seems like one of the anecdotes the cato people give their turfers.

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Anonymous wrote:Just had a girl leave for two months on vacation. I told her she'd be responsible for her making this up on her own or she'd fail my class. The attitude...."There's no way I'm doing work on MY vacation." Me: Then you'll fail. Her: You're just a b-word (she obviously said the actual word-this forum apparently doesn't allowing cussing)

I'm getting out ASAP.

Meh. Under current MCPS rules she'll be unenrolled in a couple weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:There are only 2-6 good high schools in MoCo and people pay a lot to live there.

The other people buy cheap houses zoned for bad schools

If you believe that the only good schools are ones in neighborhoods with over-priced real estate, what do you think we as a society owe to people who truly cannot afford to live in those neighborhoods?

Surely, you also believe that an adequate education is a human right and the key to breaking cycles of generational poverty. Are you okay with real estate prices being the tool that creates a permanent underclass?

The slide began with eliminating finals, but that policy was a symptom of decline, not the cause. What we are calling pandemic learning loss was like a heart attack after the patient had a Krispy Kreme donut following a decade of daily Big Macs.

It is time for a true overhaul. But one that must include parental accountability as well. And buying a $900k house zoned to a W feeder doesn’t discharge your responsibility. Affluent parents need to advocate for a grading policy that supports rather than diminishes students learning time management and accountability skills. Affluent parents need to have constructive conversations with their children about the feedback teachers provide and not just react to low grades with angry emails and vitriolic DCUM posts. Your child didn’t get an A on homework because they really understand the concept. They got an A because that category only allows 100%, 90% (if late), and 50% (if never submitted). The C they got on classwork shows their true achievement.

I think you're mixing things up in your last paragraph.....

1) $900k won't get you anything to brag about in many W feeder areas. You can buy and find many $900k homes in the DCC area. You can definitely get a LARGER sized home for that $900k in the DCC zones compared to the Ws, but expensive housing is expensive throughout MoCo, with those prices decreasing on the fringes of the county. To get "cheap" housing, you really have to move outside of MoCo these days, which is why Frederick is booming.

2) You're talking about a group of wealthy parents who henpeck and screech if their child gets a B on an assignment and demands that their child be given a reassessment or insists the teacher wasn't fair or uses some other excuse to push for their kid to either get a higher grade or have a chance to boost their. To be sure, those parents are ANNOYING. But the shift in the grading was NOT because of this group of parents.

3) There's ANOTHER group of parents who usually are on the lower income side, who feel that every failure of their child's is the fault of the school. They don't look at their own chaotic home environment, nor do they possess an ounce of discipline and organization themselves, but they insist their child is doing poorly because the school system is wrong. Either the teacher is racist and that's why their kid is skipping class, or the teacher went too fast and didn't explain enough for the kid or they believe it's the teacher's job at the high school level to constantly remind their child to turn in assignments. These parents usually either push back whenever the school calls to intervene and always defends their child no matter how wrong the behavior. "Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing."

These parents, whose children continuously fail classes and fail to graduate, are the ones for whom the 50% rule on missing assignments and the 90/10 split of all tasks and practice prep were implemented for. It was done to lower the bar to make it easier to graduate. Because these parents don't actually care if their kids do WELL in school or class. But they do care if they get told their child cannot graduate high school. So this appeases them and makes them happy, and also helps the system look more "successful" since graduation rates go up when you lower the bar.

I love how you believe group#2 has bad behavior but group #1 is merely annoying. Group#1 cares if they’re student graduates, but also think their kid can do no wrong and is entitled to A’s. Group #1 sues for anything and everything which is what causes unnecessary attention and then makes folks afraid to enforce anything. “Oh, I don't know what the issue is. He's a GOOD boy at home here. It must something y'all doing,” comes from Group 1 as folks in your perceived Group 2 don’t even answer the phone.

I get this from the wealthy parents as well: Unbeknownst to MCPS, school should not have been in session from 10/31 to 11/10. This was a time for families to take vacations before the holidays. As a teacher, I’m stupid already, but I was really an idiot to teach anything new the last two weeks since their child was on a cruise/visiting cousins/in the south of France. I just want to spoil their fun.

We took our kids out of ES yearly for a fall trip. It's cheaper, weather is nicer and less crowded. What is the big deal? We heavily supplemented at home and they were fine.

Your entitlement and selfishness are showing. Doing this one year, I can understand. But doing this annually and feeling justified because you supplement at home? Entitled.

Why do you care what PP does? Parent your own kid. -NP

Absenteeism in classmates can slow down the progress of an entire class.

Nope. Class keeps going and that kid catches up. When Jack Smith took over, it was determined attendance didn't matter. If a family wants to take a trip in the fall, oh well. That's no different than the families that can't bother to make sure their kids get to school or the kids that cut school.

Not the way it works at my school.

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Anonymous wrote:Just had a girl leave for two months on vacation. I told her she'd be responsible for her making this up on her own or she'd fail my class. The attitude...."There's no way I'm doing work on MY vacation." Me: Then you'll fail. Her: You're just a b-word (she obviously said the actual word-this forum apparently doesn't allowing cussing)

I'm getting out ASAP.

Meh. Under current MCPS rules she'll be unenrolled in a couple weeks.

She won’t. It’s actually excused bc the parents called it in ahead of time . Thanks for playing though! This is why teachers want to quit. They tell their actual stories and people who have no idea what they are talking about choose not to believe them. Unreal.

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Anonymous wrote:Just had a girl leave for two months on vacation. I told her she'd be responsible for her making this up on her own or she'd fail my class. The attitude...."There's no way I'm doing work on MY vacation." Me: Then you'll fail. Her: You're just a b-word (she obviously said the actual word-this forum apparently doesn't allowing cussing)

I'm getting out ASAP.

Meh. Under current MCPS rules she'll be unenrolled in a couple weeks.

She won’t. It’s actually excused bc the parents called it in ahead of time . Thanks for playing though! This is why teachers want to quit. They tell their actual stories and people who have no idea what they are talking about choose not to believe them. Unreal.

Meant to add…those two months include both breaks coming up… hence why she’s gonna be out to begin with but, keep in mind two months means both and Christmas break. She’s still missing an insane amount of school. You didn’t need to all those details though to try and undermine a teacher.