Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

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Anonymous wrote:I hope there’s a security camera that got the whole thing from the beginning. If I were a pregnant woman who got on the bike but hadn’t completed the rental transaction and multiple men came up to me and said that the bike was already rented, I, as a reasonable person, would have hopped off the bike and rented the one right next to it. Everything about her reaction is off and yes, she was fake crying.

So you think they forced her off the bike but still think she's unreasonable because her response was not "oh, okay, yes I will move since you physically intimidated me into doing so"?

Ok.

No, I’m saying someone who is concerned with her safety (and that of her fetus) would take the path of least resistance. Why would anyone put up a fight over a bike they hadn’t rented yet when there’s an available one right next to it? Only someone who welcomes confrontation would do that.

Seriously?

Yes, seriously. That’s what the majority of pregnant women would do.

Would the majority of non-pregnant men physically force a pregnant woman off a bike that she was trying to rent?

Why are we even evaluating her behavior. The men in the video are the ones being problematic.

You clearly never watched the video and are instead trolling. She was never physically forced to do anything.

If anything, she's trying to physically force him off the bike, but DCUM doesn't want to see that because white woman solidarity is incredible.

Yes, she’s trying to force him to let go of the bike he tried to cut in line to take from her.

What’s your point?

Is there more video that the one posted on page 1 of this thread? If not, that’s a fabrication.

The video posted in this thread shows that he scanned the code for the bike she was sitting on, then blocked her from scanning the code herself to attach it to her own account.

For some reason media is running with this calling it an attempted theft, but of course the only thing he’s trying to stop her from doing is attaching the bike to her own account. He doesn’t WANT her to assign it to her account (so he couldn’t get charged for the theft).

Her phone was in the breast pocket of her scrubs until she was done trying to use that particular bike. She never had her phone out until the end. What are you talking about?

He has his hand over the QR code so that she can’t scan it. That’s why his hand is there. Not so she can’t steal it from him under his account. So she can’t attach it to her own account.

That’s crazy. She didn’t even have her phone out and she’s the one who grabbed his phone.

She grabs at his phone because he's literally scanning the bike she is sitting on. Her phone isn't out because it's in her pocket and she hasn't had a chance to get it out and pull up the app -- she's been distracted by the fact that this guy came over and grabbed the bike she was sitting on.

I hope this woman gets vindicated because after initially assuming she was an a$$hole it's really clear to me now that she did nothing wrong. At first I was confused by the video but accepted the narrative that she'd tried to take the bike and was lying and fake crying. Now that I've actually looked at the video closely and understand what is going on with the bike, I can't see a way in which his behavior is not worse than hers.

Same. Neither of them handled the situation all that great but it’s not what people are saying. He’s a line cutter and she’s not a thief.

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Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

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Anonymous wrote:“I will and I can” are her last words in the video. But before she rather asked for help and faked cried than rent another bike?

Why are people still saying she "fake cried"?

She is sitting on a bike. A man walks up and attempts to push her off of it while he scans the QR code and unlocks the bike. Three other men surround her and tell her it's not her bike and she can't have it.

She isn't fake crying. She is actually upset. Sorry her manifestation of being upset/frustrated does not read as "genuine" to you. It's kind of irrelevant since she did nothing wrong (except cry in a way you find insufficiently convincing I guess?) and this group of men bullied her off a bike.

And she does go rent another bike. They successfully steal the first one from her, she goes and rents another one. The entire interaction lasts maybe two minutes and then she gives up and goes to another bike. How long is an acceptable length of time to try and stand up for yourself? How much liquid must a person's tears produce to be genuine? Please police this woman's behavior Tymore while a group of men physically intimidate her and demand she get off a bike that was available when she sat on it.

Sorry as a currently pregnant white lady who has rented bikes I find this is the least likely scenario. And I actually thought the chipotle couple was mostly in the right.

Here’s my take:
The guys were checking out probably the last bikes. They were dawdling, maybe checking eachothers’ phones or whatever, but clearly standing next to the bikes. She tries to swoop in by sitting on one because apparently she is in a big hurry. Why would anyone sit on a bike before you swipe? It’s almost impossible to swipe from sitting on the bike. She’s only doing that to try to take it from someone else and get them to give it up.

They tell her no way we were here first these are ours, and they swipe to confirm it. She thinks she can make a fuss and scare them off. why would anyone yell help when no one is restraining you and you literally have nothing to lose since you haven’t swiped the bike out yet? what do you need help with?

then poor kid in the right says let’s just give this crazy lady my bike since I haven’t swiped it yet. His friends are saying no that’s not fair, but she of course does it anyway, and suddenly now that she has a (different) bike she’s no longer scared and crying or needing “help.”

She tried to take advantage of these kids and got caught. She knew exactly what she was doing and deserves to lose credibility. If she had acted this way to a group of nuns everyone would be calling her out and assuming she was in the wrong. She tried to weaponize her pregnancy, gender, and their race and I find that personally offensive as a pregnant lady who would never act this way.

Your scenario involves a bunch of imaginary stuff you invented to make her seem like a villain.

Here is what is actually in the video we can all see with our eyes and hear with our ears:

She is on a bike that is still locked in the dock (no one has paid for it). She is saying "help, help" because the guy is leaning on her and holding the bike.

He is holding the bike, leaning into her, covering the scanner with his hand. She tells him to stop pushing into her belly with his arm and he claims that she is pushing into his arm with her belly. This is when she makes the fetus comment. She is not "weaponizing" her pregnancy. She is pregnant, she's on a bike, he is in fact pushing into her stomach with his arm in order to grab the handlebars and cover the QR code. She has a reason to be upset with him for his physical behavior towards her, and it is understandable she'd point out her pregnancy so he is aware of it (he could knock her down with the way he's reaching across her and grabbing the bike, it is reasonable to make him aware that knocking her down could have more serious consequences because of her pregnancy).

He leans over and scans the bike with his phone while she is sitting on it. She grabs at his phone (maybe to try and cancel the scan, maybe just to try and prevent him from doing it). They all yell at her and he immediately gets his phone back.

The bike THEN unlocks on his account.

Then he and his friends start saying "it's his bike" and telling her to get a different bike. She briefly (really, it's like a few seconds) calls out and puts her head in her hands like she's crying. Is she fake crying or is she frustrate. I'm not sure. Even if she's fake crying, the stuff that has happened up to that point is enough to make anyone emotion/frustrated, so I don't really think it's relevant. I don't think this is "weaponizing white tears." She is upset, she has a reason to be upset.

A man from her workplace walks up and suggests resetting the bike (he has no idea what is happening). The entire group of guys (there are at least 4) talk over each other to say no, no, it's this guys bike, she's trying to take the bike. The coworker says, oh okay maybe she can rent another bike.

At this point she gets off the bike and rents another bike.

She weaponizes nothing. Those guys used their larger numbers and the threat of the video (literally the minute the guys starts filming, if you are this woman, you're like "oh I'm a meme now") to bully her off the bike.

All of this is ON the video. We don't have to imagine what might have happened. It's on the video.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Asking for help and fake crying aren’t helping her case.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Asking for help and fake crying aren’t helping her case.

You’d think the recorded facts would be all you needed to help her case, but she’s literally being called a thief.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope there’s a security camera that got the whole thing from the beginning. If I were a pregnant woman who got on the bike but hadn’t completed the rental transaction and multiple men came up to me and said that the bike was already rented, I, as a reasonable person, would have hopped off the bike and rented the one right next to it. Everything about her reaction is off and yes, she was fake crying.

So you think they forced her off the bike but still think she's unreasonable because her response was not "oh, okay, yes I will move since you physically intimidated me into doing so"?

Ok.

No, I’m saying someone who is concerned with her safety (and that of her fetus) would take the path of least resistance. Why would anyone put up a fight over a bike they hadn’t rented yet when there’s an available one right next to it? Only someone who welcomes confrontation would do that.

Seriously?

Yes, seriously. That’s what the majority of pregnant women would do.

Would the majority of non-pregnant men physically force a pregnant woman off a bike that she was trying to rent?

Why are we even evaluating her behavior. The men in the video are the ones being problematic.

You clearly never watched the video and are instead trolling. She was never physically forced to do anything.

If anything, she's trying to physically force him off the bike, but DCUM doesn't want to see that because white woman solidarity is incredible.

Yes, she’s trying to force him to let go of the bike he tried to cut in line to take from her.

What’s your point?

Is there more video that the one posted on page 1 of this thread? If not, that’s a fabrication.

The video posted in this thread shows that he scanned the code for the bike she was sitting on, then blocked her from scanning the code herself to attach it to her own account.

For some reason media is running with this calling it an attempted theft, but of course the only thing he’s trying to stop her from doing is attaching the bike to her own account. He doesn’t WANT her to assign it to her account (so he couldn’t get charged for the theft).

Her phone was in the breast pocket of her scrubs until she was done trying to use that particular bike. She never had her phone out until the end. What are you talking about?

He has his hand over the QR code so that she can’t scan it. That’s why his hand is there. Not so she can’t steal it from him under his account. So she can’t attach it to her own account.

That’s crazy. She didn’t even have her phone out and she’s the one who grabbed his phone.

the video is edited. for all we know, she went and sat on the bike first, then he walked over and claimed it was his (despite the fact that he had not yet completed the transaction). one clear fact the video shows is that the bike was not unlocked until AFTER she sat on it.

The bike is already activated by him as the pink ring is lit up at the start of the video. She undocks it and tries to back it up while it is ON his account. Your scenario that she was there first but was just sitting on the bike without scanning it, which would make no sense, and then he walks up and scans it and tells her to get off makes is the least probable scenario, and doesn’t match with any of her subsequent behavior.

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The only sane person in the video is the guy in scrubs.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Asking for help and fake crying aren’t helping her case.

Ok. If you were in the process of renting a bike and another person with a group of people surrounded you and tried to push you off the bike, and then scanned it out from under you, all while one of his friends started filming you and the whole group is talking and laughing at you, what would you do?

I have no idea what I would do. I think I'd be frustrated and confused. I might try to say help if I thought someone nearby might help the situation or if I thought saying help might scare the boys into leaving me alone. I might cry in frustration. When I cry out of frustration, I don't know that tears fall down my cheeks. Some crying is tearful, some is not.

It is really insane to me that even now that it's clear she was not trying to steal his bike, people are still criticizing her reaction. She didn't do anything wrong!

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Anonymous wrote:I hope there’s a security camera that got the whole thing from the beginning. If I were a pregnant woman who got on the bike but hadn’t completed the rental transaction and multiple men came up to me and said that the bike was already rented, I, as a reasonable person, would have hopped off the bike and rented the one right next to it. Everything about her reaction is off and yes, she was fake crying.

So you think they forced her off the bike but still think she's unreasonable because her response was not "oh, okay, yes I will move since you physically intimidated me into doing so"?

Ok.

No, I’m saying someone who is concerned with her safety (and that of her fetus) would take the path of least resistance. Why would anyone put up a fight over a bike they hadn’t rented yet when there’s an available one right next to it? Only someone who welcomes confrontation would do that.

Seriously?

Yes, seriously. That’s what the majority of pregnant women would do.

Would the majority of non-pregnant men physically force a pregnant woman off a bike that she was trying to rent?

Why are we even evaluating her behavior. The men in the video are the ones being problematic.

You clearly never watched the video and are instead trolling. She was never physically forced to do anything.

If anything, she's trying to physically force him off the bike, but DCUM doesn't want to see that because white woman solidarity is incredible.

Yes, she’s trying to force him to let go of the bike he tried to cut in line to take from her.

What’s your point?

Is there more video that the one posted on page 1 of this thread? If not, that’s a fabrication.

The video posted in this thread shows that he scanned the code for the bike she was sitting on, then blocked her from scanning the code herself to attach it to her own account.

For some reason media is running with this calling it an attempted theft, but of course the only thing he’s trying to stop her from doing is attaching the bike to her own account. He doesn’t WANT her to assign it to her account (so he couldn’t get charged for the theft).

Her phone was in the breast pocket of her scrubs until she was done trying to use that particular bike. She never had her phone out until the end. What are you talking about?

He has his hand over the QR code so that she can’t scan it. That’s why his hand is there. Not so she can’t steal it from him under his account. So she can’t attach it to her own account.

That’s crazy. She didn’t even have her phone out and she’s the one who grabbed his phone.

the video is edited. for all we know, she went and sat on the bike first, then he walked over and claimed it was his (despite the fact that he had not yet completed the transaction). one clear fact the video shows is that the bike was not unlocked until AFTER she sat on it.

The bike is already activated by him as the pink ring is lit up at the start of the video. She undocks it and tries to back it up while it is ON his account. Your scenario that she was there first but was just sitting on the bike without scanning it, which would make no sense, and then he walks up and scans it and tells her to get off makes is the least probable scenario, and doesn’t match with any of her subsequent behavior.

What are you talking about? You don't "activate" a bike. The pink ring just means it's a working bike. It's "on". It has nothing to do with him.

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Here is the 100000 percent truth. If someone walked up and shot these kids dead, there would be a shocking amount of people justifying their murders and explaining that this is absolutely, no sireee bob, racism. If anything it's reverse racism and black people should just all expect to be shot if they ever make a white person uncomfortable.

Because really, that's the point right? She was uncomfortable, felt justified and obviously the kids were wrong.

They are lucky they weren't killed, to be honest. I would have expected a good guy with a gun to end this whole discussion, FWIW.

But no, it's not racist. It's America.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Asking for help and fake crying aren’t helping her case.

Ok. If you were in the process of renting a bike and another person with a group of people surrounded you and tried to push you off the bike, and then scanned it out from under you, all while one of his friends started filming you and the whole group is talking and laughing at you, what would you do?

I have no idea what I would do. I think I'd be frustrated and confused. I might try to say help if I thought someone nearby might help the situation or if I thought saying help might scare the boys into leaving me alone. I might cry in frustration. When I cry out of frustration, I don't know that tears fall down my cheeks. Some crying is tearful, some is not.

It is really insane to me that even now that it's clear she was not trying to steal his bike, people are still criticizing her reaction. She didn't do anything wrong!

This doesn't happen. She pushes him. She steals his phone. Both of these things are crimes. She 100% did something wrong, whatever happened with the bike before the video starts.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Fake crying with fake shaking makes her look like a liar. It wasn’t real crying.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Asking for help and fake crying aren’t helping her case.

Ok. If you were in the process of renting a bike and another person with a group of people surrounded you and tried to push you off the bike, and then scanned it out from under you, all while one of his friends started filming you and the whole group is talking and laughing at you, what would you do?

I have no idea what I would do. I think I'd be frustrated and confused. I might try to say help if I thought someone nearby might help the situation or if I thought saying help might scare the boys into leaving me alone. I might cry in frustration. When I cry out of frustration, I don't know that tears fall down my cheeks. Some crying is tearful, some is not.

It is really insane to me that even now that it's clear she was not trying to steal his bike, people are still criticizing her reaction. She didn't do anything wrong!

This doesn't happen. She pushes him. She steals his phone. Both of these things are crimes. She 100% did something wrong, whatever happened with the bike before the video starts.

She's on the bike, he is grabbing the bike and trying to take it from her. How is she pushing him? He's physically trying to push her away from the bike with his entire body. She does push back while saying "get off me" because his behavior is really inappropriate.

She's sitting on the bike. Why is she sitting on the bike if it's "his" bike? How can she push him off a bike she is sitting on?

She does not "steal" his phone. She grabs at his phone as he uses it to scan the QR code. She is trying to prevent him from scanning the bike she is on. That's not stealing.

Someone told you "this video shows X" and you are now convinced it shows X even though if you actually watch it without preconceptions, it shows Y.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Fake crying with fake shaking makes her look like a liar. It wasn’t real crying.

This guy is pressing into her with her body, grabbing the bike she's on, preventing her from scanning it.

But the conversation is around whether or not her crying is convincing enough.