Texas judge suspends abortion pill approval

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Arguments were today. Fifth Circuit is conservative but this is still disappointing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/05/17/abortion-pill-appeal-court-arguments/


They will ban it. There has never been any question about it.


Well then, there goes abortion in the US, just like Poland. Will be interesting to see if women shrug their shoulders on this one.


Every single time any abortion bans have come to a vote in the past two years, it has lost. Voters are very clear. But some people aren't listening.
Anonymous
they are doing this in the courts, which isn't allowing people to vote
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Arguments were today. Fifth Circuit is conservative but this is still disappointing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/05/17/abortion-pill-appeal-court-arguments/


They will ban it. There has never been any question about it.


Well then, there goes abortion in the US, just like Poland. Will be interesting to see if women shrug their shoulders on this one.


That's the 5th. It will then go to SCOTUS. I think there's a 50/50 chance at SCOTUS.

SCOTUS won’t let this happen. They know they got way over their skis and it they were to allow this, GOP will get crushed in 2024. But DO NOT think they wouldn’t do it and they they are moving back to normal. GOP always play the long game.
Anonymous
Alito and Thomas will issue some sort of tantrum citing 11th century case law ( and possibly medicine) but the rest of the conservative court will back off.

And if they outlaw it? Enough women globally will make it their life’s work to put it in every woman’s medicine cabinet no matter what.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Arguments were today. Fifth Circuit is conservative but this is still disappointing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/05/17/abortion-pill-appeal-court-arguments/


They will ban it. There has never been any question about it.


Well then, there goes abortion in the US, just like Poland. Will be interesting to see if women shrug their shoulders on this one.


That's the 5th. It will then go to SCOTUS. I think there's a 50/50 chance at SCOTUS.

SCOTUS won’t let this happen. They know they got way over their skis and it they were to allow this, GOP will get crushed in 2024. But DO NOT think they wouldn’t do it and they they are moving back to normal. GOP always play the long game.

You’ve heard that barge Alito whining about people judging him. He has - none of those right wing douches have - any idea of the consequences. They still think they’re right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how or why this is even happening. But I am not kidding that I have had it with this crap. I am all in on shipping my 2024 HS grad to Canada and then figuring out how to follow her with her much younger sister


Do not just leave. Stay and fight for what is right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Arguments were today. Fifth Circuit is conservative but this is still disappointing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/05/17/abortion-pill-appeal-court-arguments/


They will ban it. There has never been any question about it.


Well then, there goes abortion in the US, just like Poland. Will be interesting to see if women shrug their shoulders on this one.


What happens if it's banned? The problem was the FDA approval process. Couldn't the FDA just go through the approval again? It's also 1 of 2 abortion pills. Misoprostol is still allowed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Arguments were today. Fifth Circuit is conservative but this is still disappointing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/05/17/abortion-pill-appeal-court-arguments/


They will ban it. There has never been any question about it.


Well then, there goes abortion in the US, just like Poland. Will be interesting to see if women shrug their shoulders on this one.


What happens if it's banned? The problem was the FDA approval process. Couldn't the FDA just go through the approval again? It's also 1 of 2 abortion pills. Misoprostol is still allowed.


There wasn't an actual problem with the approval process. This is just a way to cheat women out of their right to healthcare.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Arguments were today. Fifth Circuit is conservative but this is still disappointing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/05/17/abortion-pill-appeal-court-arguments/


They will ban it. There has never been any question about it.


Well then, there goes abortion in the US, just like Poland. Will be interesting to see if women shrug their shoulders on this one.


Every single time any abortion bans have come to a vote in the past two years, it has lost. Voters are very clear. But some people aren't listening.


This is exactly the reason why the Founders created the Second Amendment - to put a tyrannical government in its place.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how or why this is even happening. But I am not kidding that I have had it with this crap. I am all in on shipping my 2024 HS grad to Canada and then figuring out how to follow her with her much younger sister


Do not just leave. Stay and fight for what is right.


Look, I can personally fight just a little while longer, but a teen who is getting ready to graduate HS does NOT need to take that chance. We have identified several post-secondary opportunities for her in Canada that can keep her there for several years.

Her little sister isn't at this point yet, but if things go downhill fast nationally, we're ALL done.

I have to protect my girls - that is basically my ONLY job as their mom.

I have been in the activism game a long time already. But like I said - I'm done if these idiots somehow pass a nationwide ban.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how or why this is even happening. But I am not kidding that I have had it with this crap. I am all in on shipping my 2024 HS grad to Canada and then figuring out how to follow her with her much younger sister


Do not just leave. Stay and fight for what is right.


Look, I can personally fight just a little while longer, but a teen who is getting ready to graduate HS does NOT need to take that chance. We have identified several post-secondary opportunities for her in Canada that can keep her there for several years.

Her little sister isn't at this point yet, but if things go downhill fast nationally, we're ALL done.

I have to protect my girls - that is basically my ONLY job as their mom.

I have been in the activism game a long time already. But like I said - I'm done if these idiots somehow pass a nationwide ban.


If these idiots somehow pass a nationwide ban, we double down. Time to start acting as if our lives depend on it and we can’t just buy our way out of a problem.

Besides, you don’t actually know that Canada is going to be willing to take your daughters unless they are dual citizens. They could decide their borders are being overrun and shut down visas, just like that. Or the Fascists could start preventing people from leaving. That’s the thing about Fascists- once they get a taste of victory they find it very hard to stop, and people who pretend that this will stop at abortion are deluding themselves.

The answer is to defeat them so hard they can’t see straight and, if you can’t stomach imprisoning them or deporting them, ban them from any form of gainful employment and polite society in this country forever.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how or why this is even happening. But I am not kidding that I have had it with this crap. I am all in on shipping my 2024 HS grad to Canada and then figuring out how to follow her with her much younger sister


Do not just leave. Stay and fight for what is right.


Look, I can personally fight just a little while longer, but a teen who is getting ready to graduate HS does NOT need to take that chance. We have identified several post-secondary opportunities for her in Canada that can keep her there for several years.

Her little sister isn't at this point yet, but if things go downhill fast nationally, we're ALL done.

I have to protect my girls - that is basically my ONLY job as their mom.

I have been in the activism game a long time already. But like I said - I'm done if these idiots somehow pass a nationwide ban.


If these idiots somehow pass a nationwide ban, we double down. Time to start acting as if our lives depend on it and we can’t just buy our way out of a problem.

Besides, you don’t actually know that Canada is going to be willing to take your daughters unless they are dual citizens. They could decide their borders are being overrun and shut down visas, just like that. Or the Fascists could start preventing people from leaving. That’s the thing about Fascists- once they get a taste of victory they find it very hard to stop, and people who pretend that this will stop at abortion are deluding themselves.

The answer is to defeat them so hard they can’t see straight and, if you can’t stomach imprisoning them or deporting them, ban them from any form of gainful employment and polite society in this country forever.


Canada is just the easiest option for my almost high school graduate.

I did say, I will stay and fight as long as I can. However, if things go, south quickly, I will find us a country that we can move to. It may not be Canada. It may be an entirely different country.

This is not set in stone. But with a child getting close to high school graduation, this is the most expedient route out for her.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how or why this is even happening. But I am not kidding that I have had it with this crap. I am all in on shipping my 2024 HS grad to Canada and then figuring out how to follow her with her much younger sister


Do not just leave. Stay and fight for what is right.


Look, I can personally fight just a little while longer, but a teen who is getting ready to graduate HS does NOT need to take that chance. We have identified several post-secondary opportunities for her in Canada that can keep her there for several years.

Her little sister isn't at this point yet, but if things go downhill fast nationally, we're ALL done.

I have to protect my girls - that is basically my ONLY job as their mom.

I have been in the activism game a long time already. But like I said - I'm done if these idiots somehow pass a nationwide ban.


If these idiots somehow pass a nationwide ban, we double down. Time to start acting as if our lives depend on it and we can’t just buy our way out of a problem.

Besides, you don’t actually know that Canada is going to be willing to take your daughters unless they are dual citizens. They could decide their borders are being overrun and shut down visas, just like that. Or the Fascists could start preventing people from leaving. That’s the thing about Fascists- once they get a taste of victory they find it very hard to stop, and people who pretend that this will stop at abortion are deluding themselves.

The answer is to defeat them so hard they can’t see straight and, if you can’t stomach imprisoning them or deporting them, ban them from any form of gainful employment and polite society in this country forever.


Canada is just the easiest option for my almost high school graduate.

I did say, I will stay and fight as long as I can. However, if things go, south quickly, I will find us a country that we can move to. It may not be Canada. It may be an entirely different country.

This is not set in stone. But with a child getting close to high school graduation, this is the most expedient route out for her.


I don’t think you realize how hard it is to emigrate to a first world nation with progressive social policies as a “typical” immigrant. I hope you have deep pockets or a desirable degree because that is really the only way out for most Americans.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Arguments were today. Fifth Circuit is conservative but this is still disappointing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/05/17/abortion-pill-appeal-court-arguments/


They will ban it. There has never been any question about it.


Well then, there goes abortion in the US, just like Poland. Will be interesting to see if women shrug their shoulders on this one.


That's the 5th. It will then go to SCOTUS. I think there's a 50/50 chance at SCOTUS.


This whole lawsuit is a farce. Abortion is going to rip this country apart. It also reaches down to minority rule and how much of that people are willing to take before they say enough is enough. There would be black market abortion pills.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how or why this is even happening. But I am not kidding that I have had it with this crap. I am all in on shipping my 2024 HS grad to Canada and then figuring out how to follow her with her much younger sister


Do not just leave. Stay and fight for what is right.


Look, I can personally fight just a little while longer, but a teen who is getting ready to graduate HS does NOT need to take that chance. We have identified several post-secondary opportunities for her in Canada that can keep her there for several years.

Her little sister isn't at this point yet, but if things go downhill fast nationally, we're ALL done.

I have to protect my girls - that is basically my ONLY job as their mom.

I have been in the activism game a long time already. But like I said - I'm done if these idiots somehow pass a nationwide ban.


If these idiots somehow pass a nationwide ban, we double down. Time to start acting as if our lives depend on it and we can’t just buy our way out of a problem.

Besides, you don’t actually know that Canada is going to be willing to take your daughters unless they are dual citizens. They could decide their borders are being overrun and shut down visas, just like that. Or the Fascists could start preventing people from leaving. That’s the thing about Fascists- once they get a taste of victory they find it very hard to stop, and people who pretend that this will stop at abortion are deluding themselves.

The answer is to defeat them so hard they can’t see straight and, if you can’t stomach imprisoning them or deporting them, ban them from any form of gainful employment and polite society in this country forever.


Canada is just the easiest option for my almost high school graduate.

I did say, I will stay and fight as long as I can. However, if things go, south quickly, I will find us a country that we can move to. It may not be Canada. It may be an entirely different country.

This is not set in stone. But with a child getting close to high school graduation, this is the most expedient route out for her.


I don’t think you realize how hard it is to emigrate to a first world nation with progressive social policies as a “typical” immigrant. I hope you have deep pockets or a desirable degree because that is really the only way out for most Americans.


Never been so happy that my DDs are dual citizens of another first world country. I started the challenging process of buying a property in the other country just in case and glad I finally bought something.
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