Do you consider state laws/health care access effecting your child when selecting college?

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Anonymous wrote:Big Businesses will move out of these states

Texas has brought in more big business than any state in the US for a number of years now. It is the number 1 state for business and Austin is the number 1 city. You don’t have to like it but it is that way. Too bad sour grapes.

while I understand this, I also have a hard time believing that big businesses will remain when they can't recruit young women to work for them

If you think enough women will move out, think again. Texas has plenty of women. And not all have an issue with the state which would make another leave. And the state is very, very appealing to business. It’s not number 1 for no reason.

It depends a lot on your metrics whether it's number 1. And the impact of the ideologues has not yet been felt. Businesses moved in thinking it was more libertarian. But this financially de-regulated but socially restrictive is not a good combo for the highly educated workers they need. We'll see.

They are moving in. Like it or not. Business moved in because it’s good for business. Highly educated workers will go where they are paid well and where there are companies.

I think folks on this board are overreacting a bit.. Not about Roe being overturned but about what will happen on college campuses and in southern cities. Say, your daughter gets pregnant in college (doesn't matter how). If she chooses to carry it to term, that's her choice and would have been regardless of where she got pregnant. If she wants to terminate, fly her out to someplace civilized and take care of it.

If you are employee (i.e. young woman), I'm sure you can fly yourself wherever you want to and get an abortion. I know that their stupid law says about getting an abortion, but how will those backwater clowns know you didn't have a "miscarriage" in Mexico or Maryland or wherever you went to take care of things? And while you are there, work hard to vote them out of office.

Your privilege is showing when you claim "people can just fly out" to get an abortion. Not everyone has hundreds of dollars or the time and ability to travel like that.

Why? Because I debunked the particular point OP was making? Yes. For anyone with full, white-collar employment, abortion is a plane ticket away. So is the case for your out of state student.

The issue of "Not everyone has hundreds of dollars" does not apply to the scenario OP is talking about. It does apply to poor people but that's not the OP's original question/comment. Learn to read and stay on topic. Not just bring up narratives that don't make sense to keep hearing what you want to hear.

DP: On a thread that has 10+ pages there are dozens of lines of comments people are responding to-- not a single narrowly defined topic. Some people are saying they wouldn't consider this because they don't want to support a state with their tuition dollars that has these laws--thus they are bringing up the impact on others and why they care about it, not just their particular out-of-state student immediate concerns.
Others worry about what might be outlawed next with regards to abortion pills/out of state travel. Sure it may be hard to enforce beforehand, but not so hard for someone with a grudge to report afterwards. Some people just don't want to invite the added stress of necessary mid-semester travel on the already stressful pregnancy that is disruptive of schoolwork. Some people might be stretching to the limit of their budget (OOS schools in red states such as Alabama and Missouri are well-known for offering lots of merit aid to attract good students) and the extra travel + abortion costs would be a hardship. Some worry about other situations (e.g., if your OOS son impregnates a girl from in-state it may be a lot harder to discreetly arrange an abortion if her parents oppose). So many kids in this situation are in denial that if the resources aren't immediately available they will just pretend it isn't happening. To be honest, I'd be a lot more worried about my son getting someone pregnant in this situation than my daughter getting pregnant, since for my daughter I can clearly communicate the options available to her and support her with any resources.
Anyone who is not at least thinking through these options and what it will actually entail for your 18-19 year old kids. There are so many other colleges to choose from without dealing with this all.

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Anonymous wrote:If my kid is suffering an ectopic pregnancy, she can’t just get on a plane. Our money would not be able to save her.

Which state has a law that says ectopic pregnancies won't be appropriately treated?

You think the no exception and/or abortion is murder from the moment of conception states are hunky dory with ectopic pregnancy removal?

Catholic hospitals also are not known for their openness to this procedure

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Wasn’t it OH where the old white guy senator actually thought moving an ectopic pregnancy was possible?

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Anonymous wrote:If my kid is suffering an ectopic pregnancy, she can’t just get on a plane. Our money would not be able to save her.

Which state has a law that says ectopic pregnancies won't be appropriately treated?

You think the no exception and/or abortion is murder from the moment of conception states are hunky dory with ectopic pregnancy removal?

Catholic hospitals also are not known for their openness to this procedure

Have the moment of conception states issues any statement specifically to ectopic pregnancy? Because yes--actually I do think there will be exceptions.

There are Catholic hospitals in every state.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. My kids decided never to go to Texas or Florida much less attend college there. I support those decisions although there aren’t any good colleges I either state anyway.

BS. There are great colleges in Texas. One being Rice which is likely better than what you attended,
if you attended college at all, and UT which has one of the best engineering programs in the country. You snarky add on is a typical juvenile response.

DP. That sounds like a clever response, except it doesn't take a lot of effort to identify the only two good schools in a state twice the size and with half the population of Germany.

We are hysterically laughing over her at this! I’m embarrassed for you.
Here’s another statistic. Texas had the 10th largest economy on the world. Yeah, it sucks so bad!

Then why can’t Texas keep the lights on?

Yeah, you think it’s because Texas didn’t pay it’s electric bill, okay you. Get your crayons for your first lesson.

You think Texas is financially together. I’ll send you some crayons.

Let me check with Elon Musk…
Yep, he says he has lights and his Tesla headquarters are up and running. And for good measure, I checked with few of my friends there also they also have electricity, running water, and all of life’s conveniences. Sorry you are disappointed they aren’t living poorly.

Electricity has been kind of spotty. And Musk is a nut.

Keep struggling. Have been back and forth from Texas and no spotty electricity. And you know that, you just have nothing.
Elon may be a nut, but what he isn’t is eaten up with envy like you are.

Envy? I've been to Texas plenty. My sister's family (two engineers) moved there just before the pandemic for work (and because we have other relatives there). Their power has been out for multiple days on 7 separate occasions in 2020-2021 in addition to frequent "brown outs" in the summer. Their electricity bills are through the roof. They pay some of the highest property taxes in the country. Adding on to that, the Governor is an ideological nutter. There's work everywhere now--they got new jobs in Colorado and are moving before the summer starts. Sold their house at a very high price. I don't think Texas is going to keep attracting people.

You thinking that Texas won’t keep attracting people is not a decider. There is no state income tax, but you conveniently leave that out because you don’t know and also because it wouldn’t fit your agenda. You would like to be an ideological nutter, but you have no idea.

By the way, you are too stupid to realize that there is a reason their house sold at a very high price. It wouldn’t be because no one wants to leave there. Stupid.

I'm not arguing there aren't factors (no income tax, jobs, formerly inexpensive homes) that draw people to Texas. But the ideological stuff is new and there are a lot of unpleasant surprises in costs (local property taxes, electricity costs, water cost, instability of utilities etc). The schools are really varied and to get into good schools you often have to pay the really high property taxes and now pay high home prices so the property taxes pinch a lot more. (And the person who bought my sister's house was someone across town desperate to get into a good school district before the interest rates went up more==so that's changing too).

So once you look under the hood, the picture just isn't as attractive for workers in Texas--especially those with families. It may be good for businesses of course. Except home prices are going up and the travel infrastructure outside the cities sucks. Right now there's low employment and tons of companies looking in more attractive states to many and Texas often low-balls employment offers while they tell you about the gains you get from no state income tax. I actually don't have an agenda (except I do think Texas' governor is an ideologue and is nuts)--just the experience of my sister made me chime in to the argument you were having with others. It wasn't as cheap as it seemed and not the kind of place they want to raise their kids--she's pretty politically neutral (e.g., fine with libertarians, not in favor of the gun culture but not thrown off by it ) but she's been thrown off by how ideologically aggressive Texas became. She gains financially and culturally by moving to Colorado. I'm genuinely curious what will happen to these red states where people moved to now that the landscape--workwise and politically-- is changing so drastically. I think the universities will see a dip in OOS applications, and disrupt the trajectory they are on, but there's enough people in-state that at least the bigger ones won't suffer.

Not everyone is a liberal so they would love a red state.
My most liberal friend lives in Texas, born and raised, her husband has his own car business. She said she will never leave Texas and hates when people speak of Texas when they do not live there, yet spout things they think they know about.

The majority of people do not favor the laws Texas is imposing. An even larger majority of the kinds of the young and highly educated workers Texas needs for businesses do not favor these laws. So sure plenty of people will stay, but their policies are likely to disrupt their economic trajectory.

I can play “speculate” too!

Even Forbes has written about this on a number of occasions. Sure, it's speculation, but it's based on poll numbers, data. It's boneheaded of Abbott to be doing this--the voting rights bills, the abortion bills, the border debacle etc. Businesses are grumbling, business friendly publications like Forbes are grumbling.

You can blame the border debacle on Biden. Businesses are loving the business friendly state. They are moving in, not leaving.

the "border debacle" has been going on for years, even while Trump was president (and note how much of 'the wall" has already fallen over or disinstgrated) - apprenensions are up, indierdictions are up and deportation are up under Biden.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. My kids decided never to go to Texas or Florida much less attend college there. I support those decisions although there aren’t any good colleges I either state anyway.

BS. There are great colleges in Texas. One being Rice which is likely better than what you attended,
if you attended college at all, and UT which has one of the best engineering programs in the country. You snarky add on is a typical juvenile response.

DP. That sounds like a clever response, except it doesn't take a lot of effort to identify the only two good schools in a state twice the size and with half the population of Germany.

We are hysterically laughing over her at this! I’m embarrassed for you.
Here’s another statistic. Texas had the 10th largest economy on the world. Yeah, it sucks so bad!

Then why can’t Texas keep the lights on?

Yeah, you think it’s because Texas didn’t pay it’s electric bill, okay you. Get your crayons for your first lesson.

You think Texas is financially together. I’ll send you some crayons.

Let me check with Elon Musk…
Yep, he says he has lights and his Tesla headquarters are up and running. And for good measure, I checked with few of my friends there also they also have electricity, running water, and all of life’s conveniences. Sorry you are disappointed they aren’t living poorly.

Electricity has been kind of spotty. And Musk is a nut.

Keep struggling. Have been back and forth from Texas and no spotty electricity. And you know that, you just have nothing.
Elon may be a nut, but what he isn’t is eaten up with envy like you are.

Envy? I've been to Texas plenty. My sister's family (two engineers) moved there just before the pandemic for work (and because we have other relatives there). Their power has been out for multiple days on 7 separate occasions in 2020-2021 in addition to frequent "brown outs" in the summer. Their electricity bills are through the roof. They pay some of the highest property taxes in the country. Adding on to that, the Governor is an ideological nutter. There's work everywhere now--they got new jobs in Colorado and are moving before the summer starts. Sold their house at a very high price. I don't think Texas is going to keep attracting people.

You thinking that Texas won’t keep attracting people is not a decider. There is no state income tax, but you conveniently leave that out because you don’t know and also because it wouldn’t fit your agenda. You would like to be an ideological nutter, but you have no idea.

By the way, you are too stupid to realize that there is a reason their house sold at a very high price. It wouldn’t be because no one wants to leave there. Stupid.

I'm not arguing there aren't factors (no income tax, jobs, formerly inexpensive homes) that draw people to Texas. But the ideological stuff is new and there are a lot of unpleasant surprises in costs (local property taxes, electricity costs, water cost, instability of utilities etc). The schools are really varied and to get into good schools you often have to pay the really high property taxes and now pay high home prices so the property taxes pinch a lot more. (And the person who bought my sister's house was someone across town desperate to get into a good school district before the interest rates went up more==so that's changing too).

So once you look under the hood, the picture just isn't as attractive for workers in Texas--especially those with families. It may be good for businesses of course. Except home prices are going up and the travel infrastructure outside the cities sucks. Right now there's low employment and tons of companies looking in more attractive states to many and Texas often low-balls employment offers while they tell you about the gains you get from no state income tax. I actually don't have an agenda (except I do think Texas' governor is an ideologue and is nuts)--just the experience of my sister made me chime in to the argument you were having with others. It wasn't as cheap as it seemed and not the kind of place they want to raise their kids--she's pretty politically neutral (e.g., fine with libertarians, not in favor of the gun culture but not thrown off by it ) but she's been thrown off by how ideologically aggressive Texas became. She gains financially and culturally by moving to Colorado. I'm genuinely curious what will happen to these red states where people moved to now that the landscape--workwise and politically-- is changing so drastically. I think the universities will see a dip in OOS applications, and disrupt the trajectory they are on, but there's enough people in-state that at least the bigger ones won't suffer.

Not everyone is a liberal so they would love a red state.
My most liberal friend lives in Texas, born and raised, her husband has his own car business. She said she will never leave Texas and hates when people speak of Texas when they do not live there, yet spout things they think they know about.

The majority of people do not favor the laws Texas is imposing. An even larger majority of the kinds of the young and highly educated workers Texas needs for businesses do not favor these laws. So sure plenty of people will stay, but their policies are likely to disrupt their economic trajectory.

I can play “speculate” too!

Even Forbes has written about this on a number of occasions. Sure, it's speculation, but it's based on poll numbers, data. It's boneheaded of Abbott to be doing this--the voting rights bills, the abortion bills, the border debacle etc. Businesses are grumbling, business friendly publications like Forbes are grumbling.

You can blame the border debacle on Biden. Businesses are loving the business friendly state. They are moving in, not leaving.

The border debacle I was referring to was him stopping all the trucks, costing billions of dollars in lost goods, disrupting supply chains, angering businesses.

+1 Abbott's stunt cost Texas 9 figures of revenue and materially impacted the GDP this quarter.

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Anonymous wrote:Hopping a plan to another state alone can be both cost and time prohibitive

Good lawd, some of you are thick

Get off your thick ass and go get a job.

Who exactly are you addressing here? PP or the person trapped in a state that will jail her for ending an unwanted pregnancy that probably has a low wage job and no leave time, possibly supporting other kids?

Do states trap people? Are there cages holding them in?

The GOP in Florida is offering legislation to trap pregnant women on Florida. So yes, the thought is out there.

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Anonymous wrote:If my kid is suffering an ectopic pregnancy, she can’t just get on a plane. Our money would not be able to save her.

Which state has a law that says ectopic pregnancies won't be appropriately treated?

You think the no exception and/or abortion is murder from the moment of conception states are hunky dory with ectopic pregnancy removal?

Catholic hospitals also are not known for their openness to this procedure

Name a Catholic hospital that would refuse to remove an ectopic pregnancy

In a statement published in 2011, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops determined that, in the case of ectopic pregnancies, “it is morally licit to remove the threat of the mother’s life . . . by removing part or all of the fallopian tube where the child implanted, even though it is foreseeable that the child will die as an indirect and unintended effect of such surgery.”

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Idaho is now considering banning IUD's and Plan B.

So much for Boise State.

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Anonymous wrote:Hopping a plan to another state alone can be both cost and time prohibitive

Good lawd, some of you are thick

Get off your thick ass and go get a job.

Who exactly are you addressing here? PP or the person trapped in a state that will jail her for ending an unwanted pregnancy that probably has a low wage job and no leave time, possibly supporting other kids?

Do states trap people? Are there cages holding them in?

The GOP in Florida is offering legislation to trap pregnant women on Florida. So yes, the thought is out there.

Hahahhahahhahahahahhhahaahahhahhahha!

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. My kids decided never to go to Texas or Florida much less attend college there. I support those decisions although there aren’t any good colleges I either state anyway.

BS. There are great colleges in Texas. One being Rice which is likely better than what you attended,
if you attended college at all, and UT which has one of the best engineering programs in the country. You snarky add on is a typical juvenile response.

DP. That sounds like a clever response, except it doesn't take a lot of effort to identify the only two good schools in a state twice the size and with half the population of Germany.

We are hysterically laughing over her at this! I’m embarrassed for you.
Here’s another statistic. Texas had the 10th largest economy on the world. Yeah, it sucks so bad!

Then why can’t Texas keep the lights on?

Yeah, you think it’s because Texas didn’t pay it’s electric bill, okay you. Get your crayons for your first lesson.

You think Texas is financially together. I’ll send you some crayons.

Let me check with Elon Musk…
Yep, he says he has lights and his Tesla headquarters are up and running. And for good measure, I checked with few of my friends there also they also have electricity, running water, and all of life’s conveniences. Sorry you are disappointed they aren’t living poorly.

Electricity has been kind of spotty. And Musk is a nut.

Keep struggling. Have been back and forth from Texas and no spotty electricity. And you know that, you just have nothing.
Elon may be a nut, but what he isn’t is eaten up with envy like you are.

Envy? I've been to Texas plenty. My sister's family (two engineers) moved there just before the pandemic for work (and because we have other relatives there). Their power has been out for multiple days on 7 separate occasions in 2020-2021 in addition to frequent "brown outs" in the summer. Their electricity bills are through the roof. They pay some of the highest property taxes in the country. Adding on to that, the Governor is an ideological nutter. There's work everywhere now--they got new jobs in Colorado and are moving before the summer starts. Sold their house at a very high price. I don't think Texas is going to keep attracting people.

You thinking that Texas won’t keep attracting people is not a decider. There is no state income tax, but you conveniently leave that out because you don’t know and also because it wouldn’t fit your agenda. You would like to be an ideological nutter, but you have no idea.

By the way, you are too stupid to realize that there is a reason their house sold at a very high price. It wouldn’t be because no one wants to leave there. Stupid.

I'm not arguing there aren't factors (no income tax, jobs, formerly inexpensive homes) that draw people to Texas. But the ideological stuff is new and there are a lot of unpleasant surprises in costs (local property taxes, electricity costs, water cost, instability of utilities etc). The schools are really varied and to get into good schools you often have to pay the really high property taxes and now pay high home prices so the property taxes pinch a lot more. (And the person who bought my sister's house was someone across town desperate to get into a good school district before the interest rates went up more==so that's changing too).

So once you look under the hood, the picture just isn't as attractive for workers in Texas--especially those with families. It may be good for businesses of course. Except home prices are going up and the travel infrastructure outside the cities sucks. Right now there's low employment and tons of companies looking in more attractive states to many and Texas often low-balls employment offers while they tell you about the gains you get from no state income tax. I actually don't have an agenda (except I do think Texas' governor is an ideologue and is nuts)--just the experience of my sister made me chime in to the argument you were having with others. It wasn't as cheap as it seemed and not the kind of place they want to raise their kids--she's pretty politically neutral (e.g., fine with libertarians, not in favor of the gun culture but not thrown off by it ) but she's been thrown off by how ideologically aggressive Texas became. She gains financially and culturally by moving to Colorado. I'm genuinely curious what will happen to these red states where people moved to now that the landscape--workwise and politically-- is changing so drastically. I think the universities will see a dip in OOS applications, and disrupt the trajectory they are on, but there's enough people in-state that at least the bigger ones won't suffer.

Not everyone is a liberal so they would love a red state.
My most liberal friend lives in Texas, born and raised, her husband has his own car business. She said she will never leave Texas and hates when people speak of Texas when they do not live there, yet spout things they think they know about.

The majority of people do not favor the laws Texas is imposing. An even larger majority of the kinds of the young and highly educated workers Texas needs for businesses do not favor these laws. So sure plenty of people will stay, but their policies are likely to disrupt their economic trajectory.

I can play “speculate” too!

Even Forbes has written about this on a number of occasions. Sure, it's speculation, but it's based on poll numbers, data. It's boneheaded of Abbott to be doing this--the voting rights bills, the abortion bills, the border debacle etc. Businesses are grumbling, business friendly publications like Forbes are grumbling.

You can blame the border debacle on Biden. Businesses are loving the business friendly state. They are moving in, not leaving.

The border debacle I was referring to was him stopping all the trucks, costing billions of dollars in lost goods, disrupting supply chains, angering businesses.

+1 Abbott's stunt cost Texas 9 figures of revenue and materially impacted the GDP this quarter.

You mean Biden. Your welcome.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. My kids decided never to go to Texas or Florida much less attend college there. I support those decisions although there aren’t any good colleges I either state anyway.

BS. There are great colleges in Texas. One being Rice which is likely better than what you attended,
if you attended college at all, and UT which has one of the best engineering programs in the country. You snarky add on is a typical juvenile response.

DP. That sounds like a clever response, except it doesn't take a lot of effort to identify the only two good schools in a state twice the size and with half the population of Germany.

We are hysterically laughing over her at this! I’m embarrassed for you.
Here’s another statistic. Texas had the 10th largest economy on the world. Yeah, it sucks so bad!

Then why can’t Texas keep the lights on?

Yeah, you think it’s because Texas didn’t pay it’s electric bill, okay you. Get your crayons for your first lesson.

You think Texas is financially together. I’ll send you some crayons.

Let me check with Elon Musk…
Yep, he says he has lights and his Tesla headquarters are up and running. And for good measure, I checked with few of my friends there also they also have electricity, running water, and all of life’s conveniences. Sorry you are disappointed they aren’t living poorly.

Electricity has been kind of spotty. And Musk is a nut.

Keep struggling. Have been back and forth from Texas and no spotty electricity. And you know that, you just have nothing.
Elon may be a nut, but what he isn’t is eaten up with envy like you are.

Envy? I've been to Texas plenty. My sister's family (two engineers) moved there just before the pandemic for work (and because we have other relatives there). Their power has been out for multiple days on 7 separate occasions in 2020-2021 in addition to frequent "brown outs" in the summer. Their electricity bills are through the roof. They pay some of the highest property taxes in the country. Adding on to that, the Governor is an ideological nutter. There's work everywhere now--they got new jobs in Colorado and are moving before the summer starts. Sold their house at a very high price. I don't think Texas is going to keep attracting people.

You thinking that Texas won’t keep attracting people is not a decider. There is no state income tax, but you conveniently leave that out because you don’t know and also because it wouldn’t fit your agenda. You would like to be an ideological nutter, but you have no idea.

By the way, you are too stupid to realize that there is a reason their house sold at a very high price. It wouldn’t be because no one wants to leave there. Stupid.

I'm not arguing there aren't factors (no income tax, jobs, formerly inexpensive homes) that draw people to Texas. But the ideological stuff is new and there are a lot of unpleasant surprises in costs (local property taxes, electricity costs, water cost, instability of utilities etc). The schools are really varied and to get into good schools you often have to pay the really high property taxes and now pay high home prices so the property taxes pinch a lot more. (And the person who bought my sister's house was someone across town desperate to get into a good school district before the interest rates went up more==so that's changing too).

So once you look under the hood, the picture just isn't as attractive for workers in Texas--especially those with families. It may be good for businesses of course. Except home prices are going up and the travel infrastructure outside the cities sucks. Right now there's low employment and tons of companies looking in more attractive states to many and Texas often low-balls employment offers while they tell you about the gains you get from no state income tax. I actually don't have an agenda (except I do think Texas' governor is an ideologue and is nuts)--just the experience of my sister made me chime in to the argument you were having with others. It wasn't as cheap as it seemed and not the kind of place they want to raise their kids--she's pretty politically neutral (e.g., fine with libertarians, not in favor of the gun culture but not thrown off by it ) but she's been thrown off by how ideologically aggressive Texas became. She gains financially and culturally by moving to Colorado. I'm genuinely curious what will happen to these red states where people moved to now that the landscape--workwise and politically-- is changing so drastically. I think the universities will see a dip in OOS applications, and disrupt the trajectory they are on, but there's enough people in-state that at least the bigger ones won't suffer.

Not everyone is a liberal so they would love a red state.
My most liberal friend lives in Texas, born and raised, her husband has his own car business. She said she will never leave Texas and hates when people speak of Texas when they do not live there, yet spout things they think they know about.

The majority of people do not favor the laws Texas is imposing. An even larger majority of the kinds of the young and highly educated workers Texas needs for businesses do not favor these laws. So sure plenty of people will stay, but their policies are likely to disrupt their economic trajectory.

I can play “speculate” too!

Even Forbes has written about this on a number of occasions. Sure, it's speculation, but it's based on poll numbers, data. It's boneheaded of Abbott to be doing this--the voting rights bills, the abortion bills, the border debacle etc. Businesses are grumbling, business friendly publications like Forbes are grumbling.

You can blame the border debacle on Biden. Businesses are loving the business friendly state. They are moving in, not leaving.

the "border debacle" has been going on for years, even while Trump was president (and note how much of 'the wall" has already fallen over or disinstgrated) - apprenensions are up, indierdictions are up and deportation are up under Biden.

Apprehension and deportations are up because Biden invited more of them to cross over to here.

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Anonymous wrote:If my kid is suffering an ectopic pregnancy, she can’t just get on a plane. Our money would not be able to save her.

Which state has a law that says ectopic pregnancies won't be appropriately treated?

+1. I mean really. They are conjuring up instances that are not true as a scare tactic.

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Anonymous wrote:Hopping a plan to another state alone can be both cost and time prohibitive

Good lawd, some of you are thick

Get off your thick ass and go get a job.

Who exactly are you addressing here? PP or the person trapped in a state that will jail her for ending an unwanted pregnancy that probably has a low wage job and no leave time, possibly supporting other kids?

Do states trap people? Are there cages holding them in?

The GOP in Florida is offering legislation to trap pregnant women on Florida. So yes, the thought is out there.

How do you "trap" pregnant women? Are they going to throw nets over them?

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Anonymous wrote:Hopping a plan to another state alone can be both cost and time prohibitive

Good lawd, some of you are thick

Get off your thick ass and go get a job.

Who exactly are you addressing here? PP or the person trapped in a state that will jail her for ending an unwanted pregnancy that probably has a low wage job and no leave time, possibly supporting other kids?

Do states trap people? Are there cages holding them in?

The GOP in Florida is offering legislation to trap pregnant women on Florida. So yes, the thought is out there.

How do you "trap" pregnant women? Are they going to throw nets over them?

That made me laugh too!