LCPS sexual assualt - who is held accountable?

[Anonymous]

Typically, a trans guy would not rape a girl. This disturbing boy is obviously not really trans. It is so unfortunate that the ultra right wings are trying to use this terrible incident against the LGBT community. Any boy, even wearing pants, can easily walk into a high school girl’s bathroom without anyone in the hallways doing anything about it. The hallways are either chaotic or empty and everyone is too busy getting to their classes on time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And I just read Jefff's timeline. Seems as if the report went to school officials first who in turn reported it to law enforcement "within minutes" of receiving the report. So clearly the school new.

The school knew. But not necessarily the SB or super. As and LCPS parent I have no trouble believing they were all cluelessly in the dark. Par for the course for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While the focus is unnecessarily on trans students, the rewrite of Title IX under Betsy Davos/Trump seems to be a much bigger deal here. Those rule changes give the accused more protection.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/activists-increase-pressure-biden-scrap-betsy-devos-title-ix-rules-n1261017

The rules, which DeVos called a signature achievement of her tenure as education secretary, give accused students more avenues to defend themselves, restrict how a school can investigate sexual assault allegations, and limit schools to only investigating incidents that happen at school or as part of a school activity.

These rules did not go into effect until the end of July 2021. The May situation should have been, or should be, handled under the regulations in place at the time. If the student was charged in May, LCPS could have placed the student in a smaller, more secure educational program pending what happened in court. That is if the police instructed the school not to speak with any of the people involved. If not, they could investigate and take a discipline action including suspension or expulsion. If not, they would have no details of what was alleged to have happened other than what people say to one another informally. Even though this allegedly happened in school, they could not expel the student from school until they could investigate and give due process through the school process. But if the boy was charged back in May, they could have removed him from regular high schools. And they should have if that were the case.

The Title IX changes went into affect in August 2020

https://www.ctschoollaw.com/2020/07/new-title-ix-regulations-to-take-effect-in-august/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Typically, a trans guy would not rape a girl. This disturbing boy is obviously not really trans. It is so unfortunate that the ultra right wings are trying to use this terrible incident against the LGBT community. Any boy, even wearing pants, can easily walk into a high school girl’s bathroom without anyone in the hallways doing anything about it. The hallways are either chaotic or empty and everyone is too busy getting to their classes on time.

I agree the trans part is irrelevant. I just can’t believe they just simply enrolled him in another school nearby!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Typically, a trans guy would not rape a girl. This disturbing boy is obviously not really trans. It is so unfortunate that the ultra right wings are trying to use this terrible incident against the LGBT community. Any boy, even wearing pants, can easily walk into a high school girl’s bathroom without anyone in the hallways doing anything about it. The hallways are either chaotic or empty and everyone is too busy getting to their classes on time.

We’re supposed to believe anyone who says they are trans that that is their true gender no matter how they present and no questions asked… until they assault someone and suddenly there is NO WAY they could be trans.

Pray tell if I see someone who seems to be in the wrong bathroom and is making people uncomfortable, how do I test that they are “truly” trans?

Also please don’t lump the LGB in with this, we have nothing to do with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Typically, a trans guy would not rape a girl. This disturbing boy is obviously not really trans. It is so unfortunate that the ultra right wings are trying to use this terrible incident against the LGBT community. Any boy, even wearing pants, can easily walk into a high school girl’s bathroom without anyone in the hallways doing anything about it. The hallways are either chaotic or empty and everyone is too busy getting to their classes on time.

I agree the trans part is irrelevant. I just can’t believe they just simply enrolled him in another school nearby!!!

Of course it’s relevant, girls are now expected to be comfortable with boys in bathrooms and locker rooms with them and are shamed if they speak about their discomfort.

[Anonymous]

So really nobody is getting fired and jailed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Typically, a trans guy would not rape a girl. This disturbing boy is obviously not really trans. It is so unfortunate that the ultra right wings are trying to use this terrible incident against the LGBT community. Any boy, even wearing pants, can easily walk into a high school girl’s bathroom without anyone in the hallways doing anything about it. The hallways are either chaotic or empty and everyone is too busy getting to their classes on time.

I agree the trans part is irrelevant. I just can’t believe they just simply enrolled him in another school nearby!!!

Of course it’s relevant, girls are now expected to be comfortable with boys in bathrooms and locker rooms with them and are shamed if they speak about their discomfort.

This student/assailant is a sexual predator. The same exact thing could have happened 5 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So really nobody is getting fired and jailed?

The boy is in juvie. To soon to know about Ziegler, etc. I don’t see how they would be jailed, but possibly fired though I doubt it. They will just say they were following the directions of the LCSO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Typically, a trans guy would not rape a girl. This disturbing boy is obviously not really trans. It is so unfortunate that the ultra right wings are trying to use this terrible incident against the LGBT community. Any boy, even wearing pants, can easily walk into a high school girl’s bathroom without anyone in the hallways doing anything about it. The hallways are either chaotic or empty and everyone is too busy getting to their classes on time.

I agree the trans part is irrelevant. I just can’t believe they just simply enrolled him in another school nearby!!!

Of course it’s relevant, girls are now expected to be comfortable with boys in bathrooms and locker rooms with them and are shamed if they speak about their discomfort.

This student/assailant is a sexual predator. The same exact thing could have happened 5 years ago.

Yes… feminists don’t want to make it easier for sexual predators to access safe spaces… there is no way for the average person to know who is a sexual predator pretending to be trans versus who is “legitimately” trans… therefore keeping sex-segregated spaces safe for women is one guard against predators.

Glad we agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While the focus is unnecessarily on trans students, the rewrite of Title IX under Betsy Davos/Trump seems to be a much bigger deal here. Those rule changes give the accused more protection.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/activists-increase-pressure-biden-scrap-betsy-devos-title-ix-rules-n1261017

The rules, which DeVos called a signature achievement of her tenure as education secretary, give accused students more avenues to defend themselves, restrict how a school can investigate sexual assault allegations, and limit schools to only investigating incidents that happen at school or as part of a school activity.

These rules did not go into effect until the end of July 2021. The May situation should have been, or should be, handled under the regulations in place at the time. If the student was charged in May, LCPS could have placed the student in a smaller, more secure educational program pending what happened in court. That is if the police instructed the school not to speak with any of the people involved. If not, they could investigate and take a discipline action including suspension or expulsion. If not, they would have no details of what was alleged to have happened other than what people say to one another informally. Even though this allegedly happened in school, they could not expel the student from school until they could investigate and give due process through the school process. But if the boy was charged back in May, they could have removed him from regular high schools. And they should have if that were the case.

The Title IX changes went into affect in August 2020

https://www.ctschoollaw.com/2020/07/new-title-ix-regulations-to-take-effect-in-august/

The regulation became effective July 22, 2021.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Typically, a trans guy would not rape a girl. This disturbing boy is obviously not really trans. It is so unfortunate that the ultra right wings are trying to use this terrible incident against the LGBT community. Any boy, even wearing pants, can easily walk into a high school girl’s bathroom without anyone in the hallways doing anything about it. The hallways are either chaotic or empty and everyone is too busy getting to their classes on time.

I agree the trans part is irrelevant. I just can’t believe they just simply enrolled him in another school nearby!!!

Of course it’s relevant, girls are now expected to be comfortable with boys in bathrooms and locker rooms with them and are shamed if they speak about their discomfort.

This student/assailant is a sexual predator. The same exact thing could have happened 5 years ago.

Yes… feminists don’t want to make it easier for sexual predators to access safe spaces… there is no way for the average person to know who is a sexual predator pretending to be trans versus who is “legitimately” trans… therefore keeping sex-segregated spaces safe for women is one guard against predators.

Glad we agree.

The second assault happened in an empty classroom. How are you going to keep trans kids out of there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Typically, a trans guy would not rape a girl. This disturbing boy is obviously not really trans. It is so unfortunate that the ultra right wings are trying to use this terrible incident against the LGBT community. Any boy, even wearing pants, can easily walk into a high school girl’s bathroom without anyone in the hallways doing anything about it. The hallways are either chaotic or empty and everyone is too busy getting to their classes on time.

I agree the trans part is irrelevant. I just can’t believe they just simply enrolled him in another school nearby!!!

Of course it’s relevant, girls are now expected to be comfortable with boys in bathrooms and locker rooms with them and are shamed if they speak about their discomfort.

This student/assailant is a sexual predator. The same exact thing could have happened 5 years ago.

Yes… feminists don’t want to make it easier for sexual predators to access safe spaces… there is no way for the average person to know who is a sexual predator pretending to be trans versus who is “legitimately” trans… therefore keeping sex-segregated spaces safe for women is one guard against predators.

Glad we agree.

The second assault happened in an empty classroom. How are you going to keep trans kids out of there?

How about when a kid commits a rape he she they them are expelled. Not secretly sent to another school and allowed to rape a second innocent person. That should help don’t you think?

[Anonymous]

No it was July 2020.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Typically, a trans guy would not rape a girl. This disturbing boy is obviously not really trans. It is so unfortunate that the ultra right wings are trying to use this terrible incident against the LGBT community. Any boy, even wearing pants, can easily walk into a high school girl’s bathroom without anyone in the hallways doing anything about it. The hallways are either chaotic or empty and everyone is too busy getting to their classes on time.

I agree the trans part is irrelevant. I just can’t believe they just simply enrolled him in another school nearby!!!

Of course it’s relevant, girls are now expected to be comfortable with boys in bathrooms and locker rooms with them and are shamed if they speak about their discomfort.

This student/assailant is a sexual predator. The same exact thing could have happened 5 years ago.

Yes… feminists don’t want to make it easier for sexual predators to access safe spaces… there is no way for the average person to know who is a sexual predator pretending to be trans versus who is “legitimately” trans… therefore keeping sex-segregated spaces safe for women is one guard against predators.

Glad we agree.

The second assault happened in an empty classroom. How are you going to keep trans kids out of there?

How about when a kid commits a rape he she they them are expelled. Not secretly sent to another school and allowed to rape a second innocent person. That should help don’t you think?

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