APS required testing of athletes regardless of vaccination status

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Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious why folks are compelled to trust our public health officials when said officials base the new mask guidance on a gay party weekend in Rhode Island and an Indian study that was rejected for peer review?

“Genuinely” curious what gay has to do with anything, aside from revealing your world view.

This!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but this is absurd and vaccinated kids should be exempt. False positives are about 1-2% so while that seems low it will mean that there are kids who miss two weeks of school for a false positive. At the very least, there needs to be a clear policy for retesting to get a kid out of quarantine. Let's remember, these kids have all had an opportunity to be vaccinated, and these are outside practices. Yes, there are break through cases but it is still rare for a vaccinated person to get COVID and outdoor transmission is very, very, very low. It is absolutely absurd they would test these kids. Save them for elementary school if we must.

The athletes only have to sit out as long as they test positive. If a kid is testing positive day after day, it’s not false. If they do have a false positive, they’re out one day. Nbd.

There is no way a kid that tests positive only sits out one day. They will have to miss sports and school for two weeks, which of course they should if they are actually positive. BUT a 1-2% false positive rate is going to cause unnecessary disruption if there is not a clear policy on allowing kids to demonstrate with another test that they are in fact negative. I am fine with this testing protocol for unvaccinated kids, but JFC this is absurd for vaccinated athletes practicing OUTSIDE!!!!

“With the spread of the Delta variant, new data shows some vaccinated individuals carry significant viral loads for a short duration which can compromise those who are unvaccinated and/or immunocompromised. Our goal is to use surveillance testing to minimize the spread of COVID on our teams and in our community while also eliminating the need for individual or team close contact quarantining. Under the plan, only those infected with COVID will quarantine for the period they are infectious as determined by ongoing daily testing.”

APS is known for not interpreting data well. Yes, viral loads are showing the same level in vaccinated and unvaccinated persons that are positive. BUT it is still rare to get COVID if you are vaccinated. Look at the VDH website. They do a breakdown of positives between vax v. unvaxxed.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but this is absurd and vaccinated kids should be exempt. False positives are about 1-2% so while that seems low it will mean that there are kids who miss two weeks of school for a false positive. At the very least, there needs to be a clear policy for retesting to get a kid out of quarantine. Let's remember, these kids have all had an opportunity to be vaccinated, and these are outside practices. Yes, there are break through cases but it is still rare for a vaccinated person to get COVID and outdoor transmission is very, very, very low. It is absolutely absurd they would test these kids. Save them for elementary school if we must.

The athletes only have to sit out as long as they test positive. If a kid is testing positive day after day, it’s not false. If they do have a false positive, they’re out one day. Nbd.

There is no way a kid that tests positive only sits out one day. They will have to miss sports and school for two weeks, which of course they should if they are actually positive. BUT a 1-2% false positive rate is going to cause unnecessary disruption if there is not a clear policy on allowing kids to demonstrate with another test that they are in fact negative. I am fine with this testing protocol for unvaccinated kids, but JFC this is absurd for vaccinated athletes practicing OUTSIDE!!!!

“With the spread of the Delta variant, new data shows some vaccinated individuals carry significant viral loads for a short duration which can compromise those who are unvaccinated and/or immunocompromised. Our goal is to use surveillance testing to minimize the spread of COVID on our teams and in our community while also eliminating the need for individual or team close contact quarantining. Under the plan, only those infected with COVID will quarantine for the period they are infectious as determined by ongoing daily testing.”

APS is known for not interpreting data well. Yes, viral loads are showing the same level in vaccinated and unvaccinated persons that are positive. BUT it is still rare to get COVID if you are vaccinated. Look at the VDH website. They do a breakdown of positives between vax v. unvaxxed.

Athletes only need to sit out as long as they test positive, not 2 weeks after. So no big loss if there’s a false positive. Sounds like a good plan, regardless of APS’s data interpretation shortcomings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but this is absurd and vaccinated kids should be exempt. False positives are about 1-2% so while that seems low it will mean that there are kids who miss two weeks of school for a false positive. At the very least, there needs to be a clear policy for retesting to get a kid out of quarantine. Let's remember, these kids have all had an opportunity to be vaccinated, and these are outside practices. Yes, there are break through cases but it is still rare for a vaccinated person to get COVID and outdoor transmission is very, very, very low. It is absolutely absurd they would test these kids. Save them for elementary school if we must.

The athletes only have to sit out as long as they test positive. If a kid is testing positive day after day, it’s not false. If they do have a false positive, they’re out one day. Nbd.

There is no way a kid that tests positive only sits out one day. They will have to miss sports and school for two weeks, which of course they should if they are actually positive. BUT a 1-2% false positive rate is going to cause unnecessary disruption if there is not a clear policy on allowing kids to demonstrate with another test that they are in fact negative. I am fine with this testing protocol for unvaccinated kids, but JFC this is absurd for vaccinated athletes practicing OUTSIDE!!!!

“With the spread of the Delta variant, new data shows some vaccinated individuals carry significant viral loads for a short duration which can compromise those who are unvaccinated and/or immunocompromised. Our goal is to use surveillance testing to minimize the spread of COVID on our teams and in our community while also eliminating the need for individual or team close contact quarantining. Under the plan, only those infected with COVID will quarantine for the period they are infectious as determined by ongoing daily testing.”

APS is known for not interpreting data well. Yes, viral loads are showing the same level in vaccinated and unvaccinated persons that are positive. BUT it is still rare to get COVID if you are vaccinated. Look at the VDH website. They do a breakdown of positives between vax v. unvaxxed.

Athletes only need to sit out as long as they test positive, not 2 weeks after. So no big loss if there’s a false positive. Sounds like a good plan, regardless of APS’s data interpretation shortcomings.

What is the infectious period that APS is using? I'm guessing it's x number of days after last positive test. And how does this interact with the school rules?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but this is absurd and vaccinated kids should be exempt. False positives are about 1-2% so while that seems low it will mean that there are kids who miss two weeks of school for a false positive. At the very least, there needs to be a clear policy for retesting to get a kid out of quarantine. Let's remember, these kids have all had an opportunity to be vaccinated, and these are outside practices. Yes, there are break through cases but it is still rare for a vaccinated person to get COVID and outdoor transmission is very, very, very low. It is absolutely absurd they would test these kids. Save them for elementary school if we must.

The athletes only have to sit out as long as they test positive. If a kid is testing positive day after day, it’s not false. If they do have a false positive, they’re out one day. Nbd.

There is no way a kid that tests positive only sits out one day. They will have to miss sports and school for two weeks, which of course they should if they are actually positive. BUT a 1-2% false positive rate is going to cause unnecessary disruption if there is not a clear policy on allowing kids to demonstrate with another test that they are in fact negative. I am fine with this testing protocol for unvaccinated kids, but JFC this is absurd for vaccinated athletes practicing OUTSIDE!!!!

“With the spread of the Delta variant, new data shows some vaccinated individuals carry significant viral loads for a short duration which can compromise those who are unvaccinated and/or immunocompromised. Our goal is to use surveillance testing to minimize the spread of COVID on our teams and in our community while also eliminating the need for individual or team close contact quarantining. Under the plan, only those infected with COVID will quarantine for the period they are infectious as determined by ongoing daily testing.”

APS is known for not interpreting data well. Yes, viral loads are showing the same level in vaccinated and unvaccinated persons that are positive. BUT it is still rare to get COVID if you are vaccinated. Look at the VDH website. They do a breakdown of positives between vax v. unvaxxed.

Athletes only need to sit out as long as they test positive, not 2 weeks after. So no big loss if there’s a false positive. Sounds like a good plan, regardless of APS’s data interpretation shortcomings.

What is the infectious period that APS is using? I'm guessing it's x number of days after last positive test. And how does this interact with the school rules?

They are testing daily at school, and the athlete gives his/her coach a pass showing a negative result in order to participate. That’s it.

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Wow, that’s great that they are doing that. Good for them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but this is absurd and vaccinated kids should be exempt. False positives are about 1-2% so while that seems low it will mean that there are kids who miss two weeks of school for a false positive. At the very least, there needs to be a clear policy for retesting to get a kid out of quarantine. Let's remember, these kids have all had an opportunity to be vaccinated, and these are outside practices. Yes, there are break through cases but it is still rare for a vaccinated person to get COVID and outdoor transmission is very, very, very low. It is absolutely absurd they would test these kids. Save them for elementary school if we must.

The athletes only have to sit out as long as they test positive. If a kid is testing positive day after day, it’s not false. If they do have a false positive, they’re out one day. Nbd.

There is no way a kid that tests positive only sits out one day. They will have to miss sports and school for two weeks, which of course they should if they are actually positive. BUT a 1-2% false positive rate is going to cause unnecessary disruption if there is not a clear policy on allowing kids to demonstrate with another test that they are in fact negative. I am fine with this testing protocol for unvaccinated kids, but JFC this is absurd for vaccinated athletes practicing OUTSIDE!!!!

+1 million. Students are more likely to spread covid in the cafeteria while eating lunch then they are with outdoor sports, especially considering every single HS athlete I know is vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but this is absurd and vaccinated kids should be exempt. False positives are about 1-2% so while that seems low it will mean that there are kids who miss two weeks of school for a false positive. At the very least, there needs to be a clear policy for retesting to get a kid out of quarantine. Let's remember, these kids have all had an opportunity to be vaccinated, and these are outside practices. Yes, there are break through cases but it is still rare for a vaccinated person to get COVID and outdoor transmission is very, very, very low. It is absolutely absurd they would test these kids. Save them for elementary school if we must.

The athletes only have to sit out as long as they test positive. If a kid is testing positive day after day, it’s not false. If they do have a false positive, they’re out one day. Nbd.

There is no way a kid that tests positive only sits out one day. They will have to miss sports and school for two weeks, which of course they should if they are actually positive. BUT a 1-2% false positive rate is going to cause unnecessary disruption if there is not a clear policy on allowing kids to demonstrate with another test that they are in fact negative. I am fine with this testing protocol for unvaccinated kids, but JFC this is absurd for vaccinated athletes practicing OUTSIDE!!!!

“With the spread of the Delta variant, new data shows some vaccinated individuals carry significant viral loads for a short duration which can compromise those who are unvaccinated and/or immunocompromised. Our goal is to use surveillance testing to minimize the spread of COVID on our teams and in our community while also eliminating the need for individual or team close contact quarantining. Under the plan, only those infected with COVID will quarantine for the period they are infectious as determined by ongoing daily testing.”

Fine, so test all the students, not just the athletes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but this is absurd and vaccinated kids should be exempt. False positives are about 1-2% so while that seems low it will mean that there are kids who miss two weeks of school for a false positive. At the very least, there needs to be a clear policy for retesting to get a kid out of quarantine. Let's remember, these kids have all had an opportunity to be vaccinated, and these are outside practices. Yes, there are break through cases but it is still rare for a vaccinated person to get COVID and outdoor transmission is very, very, very low. It is absolutely absurd they would test these kids. Save them for elementary school if we must.

The athletes only have to sit out as long as they test positive. If a kid is testing positive day after day, it’s not false. If they do have a false positive, they’re out one day. Nbd.

There is no way a kid that tests positive only sits out one day. They will have to miss sports and school for two weeks, which of course they should if they are actually positive. BUT a 1-2% false positive rate is going to cause unnecessary disruption if there is not a clear policy on allowing kids to demonstrate with another test that they are in fact negative. I am fine with this testing protocol for unvaccinated kids, but JFC this is absurd for vaccinated athletes practicing OUTSIDE!!!!

“With the spread of the Delta variant, new data shows some vaccinated individuals carry significant viral loads for a short duration which can compromise those who are unvaccinated and/or immunocompromised. Our goal is to use surveillance testing to minimize the spread of COVID on our teams and in our community while also eliminating the need for individual or team close contact quarantining. Under the plan, only those infected with COVID will quarantine for the period they are infectious as determined by ongoing daily testing.”

Fine, so test all the students, not just the athletes.

Ok? This is a thread specifically about testing of athletes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious why folks are compelled to trust our public health officials when said officials base the new mask guidance on a gay party weekend in Rhode Island and an Indian study that was rejected for peer review?

“Genuinely” curious what gay has to do with anything, aside from revealing your world view.

This!

DP - The relevance the Provincetown (Massachusetts, not Rhode Island) party weekend is that it involved more prolonged close contact than most public interactions involve - loud, sweaty dance parties with large crowds (indoor and outdoors) close together shouting in the ear of the person next to you, etc. Being gay specifically is irrelevant - except that it is indicative of a population who traveled there for the goal of socializing and partying in a crowd of strangers.

The two most logical takeaways that in my mind were (a) Delta is highly transmissible in very crowded close contact situations and (b) as designed vaccines do lessen the impact of the disease on the vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious why folks are compelled to trust our public health officials when said officials base the new mask guidance on a gay party weekend in Rhode Island and an Indian study that was rejected for peer review?

“Genuinely” curious what gay has to do with anything, aside from revealing your world view.

This!

DP - The relevance the Provincetown (Massachusetts, not Rhode Island) party weekend is that it involved more prolonged close contact than most public interactions involve - loud, sweaty dance parties with large crowds (indoor and outdoors) close together shouting in the ear of the person next to you, etc. Being gay specifically is irrelevant - except that it is indicative of a population who traveled there for the goal of socializing and partying in a crowd of strangers.

The two most logical takeaways that in my mind were (a) Delta is highly transmissible in very crowded close contact situations and (b) as designed vaccines do lessen the impact of the disease on the vaccinated.

+1 (of course, the person was trying to say the comment was anti-gay; no, it's like having a study that took place during spring break in Cancun if that's more PC for you)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious why folks are compelled to trust our public health officials when said officials base the new mask guidance on a gay party weekend in Rhode Island and an Indian study that was rejected for peer review?

“Genuinely” curious what gay has to do with anything, aside from revealing your world view.

This!

Clearly you haven't heard of "bear week" WRT Provincetown. I can assure you, from a behavioural perspective, that people travelling to PTown for Bear Week are more likely to engage in covid-spreading behaviors than a regional convention of the Cat Fanciers Association. You're trying to look woke by playing stupid here, but it's just coming off like you're ignorant of how people act outside of your own bourgeois sexual norms. Gay men get this, but some reason straight UMC moms don't.

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The athletes only have to sit out as long as they test positive. If a kid is testing positive day after day, it’s not false. If they do have a false positive, they’re out one day. Nbd.

This is not the regular quarantine policy. Generally you sit out 10 days, and the school and health department don't require you to test negative.

[Anonymous]

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The athletes only have to sit out as long as they test positive. If a kid is testing positive day after day, it’s not false. If they do have a false positive, they’re out one day. Nbd.

This is not the regular quarantine policy. Generally you sit out 10 days, and the school and health department don't require you to test negative.

I’m not sure there is a regular any more. Rapid tests are plentiful now, so that allows athletes to be tested daily throughout their sports seasons.

[Anonymous]

They are requiring this for the marching band too, at least at Yorktown. I am not thrilled that my vaxxed kid has to do it, but whatever.