Forfeit/no show at tournament

[Anonymous]

that's ridiculous, why would a kid fake a concussion

[Anonymous]

I didn't know the clock runs during these injuries.

Pretty insensitive of the coaches, even if he were faking you have to give benefit of the doubt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was a forfeit during the final in the Virginian 06. BRYC coach and assistant got reds, had to leave the field. The team played on without a coach, down 1-2, but a few minutes later they forfeited halfway through second half. Very odd.

What led up to both coaches getting red cards?

I'm not 100% as my kid had next game on the field. From what I saw a player on the opposing team took a high kick to the head, penalty called. Ref called for a tournament trainer. BRYC coach got into an argument with the ref, words exchanged, red card to coach, assistant said something, red for him. I think the argument was that opposing team was wasting time. Trainer walked the injured kid across the field (he looked pretty out of it to me), play resumed, went on for a bit and then some tournament folks came on and called the forfeit.

To me, that should be the end of a coach's career. He tried to stop a kid with a potential concussion from getting medical care?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't know the clock runs during these injuries.

Pretty insensitive of the coaches, even if he were faking you have to give benefit of the doubt.

Clock is up to the refs, they can stop it for "serious injuries or other incidents". There were also a couple of parents yelling that the injured kid and trainer should exit the field at the closest touch line rather than walk all the way across, so the kid could then walk around half the field instead of taking the shortest route to the tent. Classy stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was a forfeit during the final in the Virginian 06. BRYC coach and assistant got reds, had to leave the field. The team played on without a coach, down 1-2, but a few minutes later they forfeited halfway through second half. Very odd.

What led up to both coaches getting red cards?

I'm not 100% as my kid had next game on the field. From what I saw a player on the opposing team took a high kick to the head, penalty called. Ref called for a tournament trainer. BRYC coach got into an argument with the ref, words exchanged, red card to coach, assistant said something, red for him. I think the argument was that opposing team was wasting time. Trainer walked the injured kid across the field (he looked pretty out of it to me), play resumed, went on for a bit and then some tournament folks came on and called the forfeit.

To me, that should be the end of a coach's career. He tried to stop a kid with a potential concussion from getting medical care?

You are pathetic— nobody said that.

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was a forfeit during the final in the Virginian 06. BRYC coach and assistant got reds, had to leave the field. The team played on without a coach, down 1-2, but a few minutes later they forfeited halfway through second half. Very odd.

That’s appalling by the coaches. Coaches never have an excuse to get carded. Never.

One of the opposing coaches at our game on Saturday got thrown out for yelling at the refs about not calling penalties. There are a couple players on our team who play dirty (yes, I admit it, - I really dislike the kids and their parents), the refs weren’t calling any penalties on them, and one of them knocked the opposing team’s goalie out of the game in the first half with a dirty hit after the goalie had possession. There were no penalties called on that play, or when the same two players blatantly tripped their players, or the multiple times they slammed into the other team’s striker in the box as he as about to take a shot.

Obviously I didn’t say anything at the field, but I admired the coach for taking a stand and agreed with what he said to the refs. We’re leaving the club after this season because I’m so disappointed in the integrity of our coaches in not stopping what was happening on the field. We won the game, but I was really embarrassed to be associated with it.

Were the refs not keeping up with the action or just indifferent?

DP, but I think they're talking about a game our team played this weekend where our assistant coach was ejected. If so, it's not the BRYC game a different poster mentioned. I'm not going to name the club both because I appreciate pp's post and don't want to drag an entire team of kids into the behavior of a couple of kids and the coach who did nothing to stop it, and to preserve the privacy of our own player who was injured.

It looked to me like one of the assistant refs simply wasn't paying attention. He barely moved along the sideline, and every time I looked over at him he was looking at his watch even when play was going on right in front of him. The other assistant ref looked very young, and while they were moving with the play, my impression was they seemed nervous making calls unless the head ref also saw it and agreed. The head ref was moving around and engaged, but couldn't clearly see everything happening on the field and seemed to err on the side of not calling things unless it was really egregious and directly in front of him. I can understand that philosophy and tend to agree with it when we're talking about borderline calls in a game that's generally clean, but I think this game needed a heavier hand from the refs. I think not having effective support from the assistant refs also made his job a lot harder.

To the pp who brought it up, thank you for sharing your perspective. Our assistant coach is normally a mild-mannered guy who puts heavy emphasis on sportsmanship and good behavior, so we were all shocked when it happened. He felt bad about getting himself ejected because he thought it set a bad example for the kids, but in some ways I think it was good for our kids to see the coach stand up for them. It gave them a boost during a very demoralizing game, and cooled any impulse they might have had to retaliate on the field.

If it makes you feel better pp, our keeper was initially injured on a previous save through no fault of your players. I think the hit from your player aggravated it and that's why he left the game at that point, but it wasn't the sole cause of the injury. That kid basically feels no pain and will play through any injury, so if it weren't for the hit calling the injury to the coaches' attention he probably would have played the rest of the game and could have ended up injuring himself even worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't know the clock runs during these injuries.

Pretty insensitive of the coaches, even if he were faking you have to give benefit of the doubt.

Clock is up to the refs, they can stop it for "serious injuries or other incidents". There were also a couple of parents yelling that the injured kid and trainer should exit the field at the closest touch line rather than walk all the way across, so the kid could then walk around half the field instead of taking the shortest route to the tent. Classy stuff.

I have a serious question. I understand not making a player with a possible concussion exit the field too quickly. But what about an injury like a rolled ankle? This weekend, we saw a coach talking to his player for an extended amount of time about an ankle (like more than five minutes). What's the protocol on that? It seems like a lot of time to use up in a tournament when extending the game has a domino effect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't know the clock runs during these injuries.

Pretty insensitive of the coaches, even if he were faking you have to give benefit of the doubt.

Clock is up to the refs, they can stop it for "serious injuries or other incidents". There were also a couple of parents yelling that the injured kid and trainer should exit the field at the closest touch line rather than walk all the way across, so the kid could then walk around half the field instead of taking the shortest route to the tent. Classy stuff.

I have a serious question. I understand not making a player with a possible concussion exit the field too quickly. But what about an injury like a rolled ankle? This weekend, we saw a coach talking to his player for an extended amount of time about an ankle (like more than five minutes). What's the protocol on that? It seems like a lot of time to use up in a tournament when extending the game has a domino effect.

for tournaments there is a limited amount of time for the match to take place--it is what it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't know the clock runs during these injuries.

Pretty insensitive of the coaches, even if he were faking you have to give benefit of the doubt.

Clock is up to the refs, they can stop it for "serious injuries or other incidents". There were also a couple of parents yelling that the injured kid and trainer should exit the field at the closest touch line rather than walk all the way across, so the kid could then walk around half the field instead of taking the shortest route to the tent. Classy stuff.

I have a serious question. I understand not making a player with a possible concussion exit the field too quickly. But what about an injury like a rolled ankle? This weekend, we saw a coach talking to his player for an extended amount of time about an ankle (like more than five minutes). What's the protocol on that? It seems like a lot of time to use up in a tournament when extending the game has a domino effect.

for tournaments there is a limited amount of time for the match to take place--it is what it is.

Yeah, it sounds terrible, but I don't think you need 10 minutes on the field for an ankle, especially in a tournament. Concussions are another story.