Fans of women’s pro soccer

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Anonymous wrote:Those team would easily beat the USWNT.

Barca is mostly Spanish players, US v Spain hasn’t gone well for Spain. Chelsea is more international, but who knows

Friendly reminder US has to beat Spain with two gifts in the form of pk last World Cup.

Friendly reminder that Spain’s WNT has won nothing. Ever.

It is nice though to see they are getting more competitive and may be able to crack into the top 5 best teams in Western Europe.

You are soooo smart!

They can’t win anything when they aren’t around. Friendly reminder the rest of the world didn’t really promote, endorse, foment and push for women soccer until a few years ago… USA women soccer has been around for 3-4 decades.

If you have any brain cells you’ll understand the progress Spain, France, Germany, Holland and any other European nation for that Matter, have made in just about 10 years demonstrates the USWNT will become a follower and not a leader in just about the next major trophy.

It’s hard to accept. But that’s life. Some people do it better.

10 years? Are we living in the 1990’s?

Germany WNT team has been around since 1982. (2003 and 2007 World Cup champions)
France WNT has been around since 1971.
Netherlands WNT has been around since 1971.
Spain WNT has been around since 1983.
USWNT has been around since 1985.

+1. The PP is one of those people that if you keep showing them facts they still won’t believe the truth. The USWNT has been around for less time than all those other major soccer countries and has so many more trophies. Not sure if the PP is a European transplant living off the fat of our country but still complaining, or simply a troll counter positing every time. It’s funny though. Next thing, he/she will talk about how great England is at soccer. England hasn’t won squat in decades in either gender (although I do think this is the year for the men in Euros). Then he/she will say, “but English teams have won the UEFA CL the last few years,” and we’ll say, “yeah but those teams have a lot of foreign players” ... but he/she will argue that fact too. The the PP will argue how great Spain is, and we’ll point out that they just spent 90 minutes passing the ball backwards and sideways to tie Sweden, and PP will call that the beautiful game. It’s called football snobbery and close mindedness and playing not to lose vs. to win. The simple fact is that the US has won more team world sports championships than any other nation. Why? We are bigger, richer, and more competitive. That makes people, jealous. For men’s soccer the fourth tier it holds professionally against football, basketball, and baseball is why we don’t win. If we removed pro football and baseball like almost all other countries we’d be the best in the world at men’s soccer too. But we don’t, so we probably won’t. So someday if we do win the men’s WC it will be that much sweeter when we can say that we were the best in the world at a sport that is still only our fourth tier for us.

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Some people are so ignorant that they should just keep their mouth shut. WNT in other parts of the world has been around for a long time.

In addition of European countries, Asian countries have WNT and performed well too.

This is the list of Women's World Cup Finals since 1991:

1991: USA vs Norway
1995: Norway vs Germany
1999: USA vs China
2003: Germany vs Sweden
2007: Germany vs Brazil
2011: Japan vs USA
2015: USA vs Japan
2019: USA vs Netherlands

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This is the list of the Olympics Women's Soccer Finals since 1996:

1996: USA vs China
2000: Norway vs USA
2004: USA vs Brazil
2008: USA vs Brazil
2012: USA vs Japan
2016: Germany vs Sweden

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those team would easily beat the USWNT.

Barca is mostly Spanish players, US v Spain hasn’t gone well for Spain. Chelsea is more international, but who knows

Friendly reminder US has to beat Spain with two gifts in the form of pk last World Cup.

Friendly reminder that Spain’s WNT has won nothing. Ever.

It is nice though to see they are getting more competitive and may be able to crack into the top 5 best teams in Western Europe.

You are soooo smart!

They can’t win anything when they aren’t around. Friendly reminder the rest of the world didn’t really promote, endorse, foment and push for women soccer until a few years ago… USA women soccer has been around for 3-4 decades.

If you have any brain cells you’ll understand the progress Spain, France, Germany, Holland and any other European nation for that Matter, have made in just about 10 years demonstrates the USWNT will become a follower and not a leader in just about the next major trophy.

It’s hard to accept. But that’s life. Some people do it better.

10 years? Are we living in the 1990’s?

Germany WNT team has been around since 1982. (2003 and 2007 World Cup champions)
France WNT has been around since 1971.
Netherlands WNT has been around since 1971.
Spain WNT has been around since 1983.
USWNT has been around since 1985.

+1. The PP is one of those people that if you keep showing them facts they still won’t believe the truth. The USWNT has been around for less time than all those other major soccer countries and has so many more trophies. Not sure if the PP is a European transplant living off the fat of our country but still complaining, or simply a troll counter positing every time. It’s funny though. Next thing, he/she will talk about how great England is at soccer. England hasn’t won squat in decades in either gender (although I do think this is the year for the men in Euros). Then he/she will say, “but English teams have won the UEFA CL the last few years,” and we’ll say, “yeah but those teams have a lot of foreign players” ... but he/she will argue that fact too. The the PP will argue how great Spain is, and we’ll point out that they just spent 90 minutes passing the ball backwards and sideways to tie Sweden, and PP will call that the beautiful game. It’s called football snobbery and close mindedness and playing not to lose vs. to win. The simple fact is that the US has won more team world sports championships than any other nation. Why? We are bigger, richer, and more competitive. That makes people, jealous. For men’s soccer the fourth tier it holds professionally against football, basketball, and baseball is why we don’t win. If we removed pro football and baseball like almost all other countries we’d be the best in the world at men’s soccer too. But we don’t, so we probably won’t. So someday if we do win the men’s WC it will be that much sweeter when we can say that we were the best in the world at a sport that is still only our fourth tier for us.

No other country has anything like title 9. So let’s start the clock at 1972. This is the only reason the USWNT wins. The European women leagues have become way better vs NWSL. They are also paying a lot more vs NWSL(10,000 euros a month). Most of the posters here have never watched a women champions league game or any of the top European women’s clubs team but feel comfortable giving their expert analysis. Like the US never played women soccer before 1985. You just come off like an ignominious. Now that is football snobbery.
The question is is there a better women team than the USWNT? The answer is yes. There are 4-6 and they are European club teams. The Barca’s women’s team would beat the USWNT 9 out of 10 times. The only players on the USWNT showing well are the ones who played in Europe last year. You think a team with Mewis, Lavelle and Dahlkemper would have had better results and won a few trophies in a Europe?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those team would easily beat the USWNT.

Barca is mostly Spanish players, US v Spain hasn’t gone well for Spain. Chelsea is more international, but who knows

Friendly reminder US has to beat Spain with two gifts in the form of pk last World Cup.

Friendly reminder that Spain’s WNT has won nothing. Ever.

It is nice though to see they are getting more competitive and may be able to crack into the top 5 best teams in Western Europe.

You are soooo smart!

They can’t win anything when they aren’t around. Friendly reminder the rest of the world didn’t really promote, endorse, foment and push for women soccer until a few years ago… USA women soccer has been around for 3-4 decades.

If you have any brain cells you’ll understand the progress Spain, France, Germany, Holland and any other European nation for that Matter, have made in just about 10 years demonstrates the USWNT will become a follower and not a leader in just about the next major trophy.

It’s hard to accept. But that’s life. Some people do it better.

10 years? Are we living in the 1990’s?

Germany WNT team has been around since 1982. (2003 and 2007 World Cup champions)
France WNT has been around since 1971.
Netherlands WNT has been around since 1971.
Spain WNT has been around since 1983.
USWNT has been around since 1985.

+1. The PP is one of those people that if you keep showing them facts they still won’t believe the truth. The USWNT has been around for less time than all those other major soccer countries and has so many more trophies. Not sure if the PP is a European transplant living off the fat of our country but still complaining, or simply a troll counter positing every time. It’s funny though. Next thing, he/she will talk about how great England is at soccer. England hasn’t won squat in decades in either gender (although I do think this is the year for the men in Euros). Then he/she will say, “but English teams have won the UEFA CL the last few years,” and we’ll say, “yeah but those teams have a lot of foreign players” ... but he/she will argue that fact too. The the PP will argue how great Spain is, and we’ll point out that they just spent 90 minutes passing the ball backwards and sideways to tie Sweden, and PP will call that the beautiful game. It’s called football snobbery and close mindedness and playing not to lose vs. to win. The simple fact is that the US has won more team world sports championships than any other nation. Why? We are bigger, richer, and more competitive. That makes people, jealous. For men’s soccer the fourth tier it holds professionally against football, basketball, and baseball is why we don’t win. If we removed pro football and baseball like almost all other countries we’d be the best in the world at men’s soccer too. But we don’t, so we probably won’t. So someday if we do win the men’s WC it will be that much sweeter when we can say that we were the best in the world at a sport that is still only our fourth tier for us.

No other country has anything like title 9. So let’s start the clock at 1972. This is the only reason the USWNT wins. The European women leagues have become way better vs NWSL. They are also paying a lot more vs NWSL(10,000 euros a month). Most of the posters here have never watched a women champions league game or any of the top European women’s clubs team but feel comfortable giving their expert analysis. Like the US never played women soccer before 1985. You just come off like an ignominious. Now that is football snobbery.
The question is is there a better women team than the USWNT? The answer is yes. There are 4-6 and they are European club teams. The Barca’s women’s team would beat the USWNT 9 out of 10 times. The only players on the USWNT showing well are the ones who played in Europe last year. You think a team with Mewis, Lavelle and Dahlkemper would have had better results and won a few trophies in a Europe?

Title IX is enshrined in federal law. European teams are subsidizing women's teams is dependent on their willness to continue to lose money. It will be interesting to see how long they remain interested.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the list of the Olympics Women's Soccer Finals since 1996:

1996: USA vs China
2000: Norway vs USA
2004: USA vs Brazil
2008: USA vs Brazil
2012: USA vs Japan
2016: Germany vs Sweden

Quick! What were the scores?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those team would easily beat the USWNT.

Barca is mostly Spanish players, US v Spain hasn’t gone well for Spain. Chelsea is more international, but who knows

Friendly reminder US has to beat Spain with two gifts in the form of pk last World Cup.

Friendly reminder that Spain’s WNT has won nothing. Ever.

It is nice though to see they are getting more competitive and may be able to crack into the top 5 best teams in Western Europe.

You are soooo smart!

They can’t win anything when they aren’t around. Friendly reminder the rest of the world didn’t really promote, endorse, foment and push for women soccer until a few years ago… USA women soccer has been around for 3-4 decades.

If you have any brain cells you’ll understand the progress Spain, France, Germany, Holland and any other European nation for that Matter, have made in just about 10 years demonstrates the USWNT will become a follower and not a leader in just about the next major trophy.

It’s hard to accept. But that’s life. Some people do it better.

10 years? Are we living in the 1990’s?

Germany WNT team has been around since 1982. (2003 and 2007 World Cup champions)
France WNT has been around since 1971.
Netherlands WNT has been around since 1971.
Spain WNT has been around since 1983.
USWNT has been around since 1985.

+1. The PP is one of those people that if you keep showing them facts they still won’t believe the truth. The USWNT has been around for less time than all those other major soccer countries and has so many more trophies. Not sure if the PP is a European transplant living off the fat of our country but still complaining, or simply a troll counter positing every time. It’s funny though. Next thing, he/she will talk about how great England is at soccer. England hasn’t won squat in decades in either gender (although I do think this is the year for the men in Euros). Then he/she will say, “but English teams have won the UEFA CL the last few years,” and we’ll say, “yeah but those teams have a lot of foreign players” ... but he/she will argue that fact too. The the PP will argue how great Spain is, and we’ll point out that they just spent 90 minutes passing the ball backwards and sideways to tie Sweden, and PP will call that the beautiful game. It’s called football snobbery and close mindedness and playing not to lose vs. to win. The simple fact is that the US has won more team world sports championships than any other nation. Why? We are bigger, richer, and more competitive. That makes people, jealous. For men’s soccer the fourth tier it holds professionally against football, basketball, and baseball is why we don’t win. If we removed pro football and baseball like almost all other countries we’d be the best in the world at men’s soccer too. But we don’t, so we probably won’t. So someday if we do win the men’s WC it will be that much sweeter when we can say that we were the best in the world at a sport that is still only our fourth tier for us.

No other country has anything like title 9. So let’s start the clock at 1972. This is the only reason the USWNT wins. The European women leagues have become way better vs NWSL. They are also paying a lot more vs NWSL(10,000 euros a month). Most of the posters here have never watched a women champions league game or any of the top European women’s clubs team but feel comfortable giving their expert analysis. Like the US never played women soccer before 1985. You just come off like an ignominious. Now that is football snobbery.
The question is is there a better women team than the USWNT? The answer is yes. There are 4-6 and they are European club teams. The Barca’s women’s team would beat the USWNT 9 out of 10 times. The only players on the USWNT showing well are the ones who played in Europe last year. You think a team with Mewis, Lavelle and Dahlkemper would have had better results and won a few trophies in a Europe?

Always an excuse. Always a convoluted explanation.

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Anonymous wrote:Those team would easily beat the USWNT.

Barca is mostly Spanish players, US v Spain hasn’t gone well for Spain. Chelsea is more international, but who knows

Friendly reminder US has to beat Spain with two gifts in the form of pk last World Cup.

Friendly reminder that Spain’s WNT has won nothing. Ever.

It is nice though to see they are getting more competitive and may be able to crack into the top 5 best teams in Western Europe.

You are soooo smart!

They can’t win anything when they aren’t around. Friendly reminder the rest of the world didn’t really promote, endorse, foment and push for women soccer until a few years ago… USA women soccer has been around for 3-4 decades.

If you have any brain cells you’ll understand the progress Spain, France, Germany, Holland and any other European nation for that Matter, have made in just about 10 years demonstrates the USWNT will become a follower and not a leader in just about the next major trophy.

It’s hard to accept. But that’s life. Some people do it better.

10 years? Are we living in the 1990’s?

Germany WNT team has been around since 1982. (2003 and 2007 World Cup champions)
France WNT has been around since 1971.
Netherlands WNT has been around since 1971.
Spain WNT has been around since 1983.
USWNT has been around since 1985.

+1. The PP is one of those people that if you keep showing them facts they still won’t believe the truth. The USWNT has been around for less time than all those other major soccer countries and has so many more trophies. Not sure if the PP is a European transplant living off the fat of our country but still complaining, or simply a troll counter positing every time. It’s funny though. Next thing, he/she will talk about how great England is at soccer. England hasn’t won squat in decades in either gender (although I do think this is the year for the men in Euros). Then he/she will say, “but English teams have won the UEFA CL the last few years,” and we’ll say, “yeah but those teams have a lot of foreign players” ... but he/she will argue that fact too. The the PP will argue how great Spain is, and we’ll point out that they just spent 90 minutes passing the ball backwards and sideways to tie Sweden, and PP will call that the beautiful game. It’s called football snobbery and close mindedness and playing not to lose vs. to win. The simple fact is that the US has won more team world sports championships than any other nation. Why? We are bigger, richer, and more competitive. That makes people, jealous. For men’s soccer the fourth tier it holds professionally against football, basketball, and baseball is why we don’t win. If we removed pro football and baseball like almost all other countries we’d be the best in the world at men’s soccer too. But we don’t, so we probably won’t. So someday if we do win the men’s WC it will be that much sweeter when we can say that we were the best in the world at a sport that is still only our fourth tier for us.

No other country has anything like title 9. So let’s start the clock at 1972. This is the only reason the USWNT wins. The European women leagues have become way better vs NWSL. They are also paying a lot more vs NWSL(10,000 euros a month). Most of the posters here have never watched a women champions league game or any of the top European women’s clubs team but feel comfortable giving their expert analysis. Like the US never played women soccer before 1985. You just come off like an ignominious. Now that is football snobbery.
The question is is there a better women team than the USWNT? The answer is yes. There are 4-6 and they are European club teams. The Barca’s women’s team would beat the USWNT 9 out of 10 times. The only players on the USWNT showing well are the ones who played in Europe last year. You think a team with Mewis, Lavelle and Dahlkemper would have had better results and won a few trophies in a Europe?

You’re comparing pro club teams to national teams. Not apples to apples. Name the women’s national teams that are better than the USWNT please. Cite recent game results (i.e. facts, not opinions please). Good luck.

Also, as another poster pointed out above, we have Title IX, and Europe has pro clubs subsidizing women’s pro teams. BTW, I have watched the women’s super league and CL. I do enjoy that female soccer more than NWSL, so will agree with you there. But to make an analogy, on the men’s side Belgium pro club soccer is not very good, but their national team is excellent. So again, not apples to apples.

But, it would be fun to see NWSL’s top teams each year compete in the Euro CL. I think they’d do well. Maybe not win it all, but would be very competitive.

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Anonymous wrote:Those team would easily beat the USWNT.

Barca is mostly Spanish players, US v Spain hasn’t gone well for Spain. Chelsea is more international, but who knows

Friendly reminder US has to beat Spain with two gifts in the form of pk last World Cup.

Friendly reminder that Spain’s WNT has won nothing. Ever.

It is nice though to see they are getting more competitive and may be able to crack into the top 5 best teams in Western Europe.

You are soooo smart!

They can’t win anything when they aren’t around. Friendly reminder the rest of the world didn’t really promote, endorse, foment and push for women soccer until a few years ago… USA women soccer has been around for 3-4 decades.

If you have any brain cells you’ll understand the progress Spain, France, Germany, Holland and any other European nation for that Matter, have made in just about 10 years demonstrates the USWNT will become a follower and not a leader in just about the next major trophy.

It’s hard to accept. But that’s life. Some people do it better.

10 years? Are we living in the 1990’s?

Germany WNT team has been around since 1982. (2003 and 2007 World Cup champions)
France WNT has been around since 1971.
Netherlands WNT has been around since 1971.
Spain WNT has been around since 1983.
USWNT has been around since 1985.

+1. The PP is one of those people that if you keep showing them facts they still won’t believe the truth. The USWNT has been around for less time than all those other major soccer countries and has so many more trophies. Not sure if the PP is a European transplant living off the fat of our country but still complaining, or simply a troll counter positing every time. It’s funny though. Next thing, he/she will talk about how great England is at soccer. England hasn’t won squat in decades in either gender (although I do think this is the year for the men in Euros). Then he/she will say, “but English teams have won the UEFA CL the last few years,” and we’ll say, “yeah but those teams have a lot of foreign players” ... but he/she will argue that fact too. The the PP will argue how great Spain is, and we’ll point out that they just spent 90 minutes passing the ball backwards and sideways to tie Sweden, and PP will call that the beautiful game. It’s called football snobbery and close mindedness and playing not to lose vs. to win. The simple fact is that the US has won more team world sports championships than any other nation. Why? We are bigger, richer, and more competitive. That makes people, jealous. For men’s soccer the fourth tier it holds professionally against football, basketball, and baseball is why we don’t win. If we removed pro football and baseball like almost all other countries we’d be the best in the world at men’s soccer too. But we don’t, so we probably won’t. So someday if we do win the men’s WC it will be that much sweeter when we can say that we were the best in the world at a sport that is still only our fourth tier for us.

No other country has anything like title 9. So let’s start the clock at 1972. This is the only reason the USWNT wins. The European women leagues have become way better vs NWSL. They are also paying a lot more vs NWSL(10,000 euros a month). Most of the posters here have never watched a women champions league game or any of the top European women’s clubs team but feel comfortable giving their expert analysis. Like the US never played women soccer before 1985. You just come off like an ignominious. Now that is football snobbery.
The question is is there a better women team than the USWNT? The answer is yes. There are 4-6 and they are European club teams. The Barca’s women’s team would beat the USWNT 9 out of 10 times. The only players on the USWNT showing well are the ones who played in Europe last year. You think a team with Mewis, Lavelle and Dahlkemper would have had better results and won a few trophies in a Europe?

Great post. The interesting thing is you could not say the bold 4-5 years ago. How quickly the landscape changes.

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RantingSoccerDad wrote:The existence of a WNT isn't the same as taking it seriously.

Norway and China were ahead of the curve, and they were the USA's biggest rivals in the 90s. But they've fallen back a bit.

The USA simply had better opportunities than women from other countries for a long time. In the 90s, you could make a persuasive case that the best women's soccer league in the world was the ACC. In the early 00s, add the WUSA to the mix -- at the time, women had few opportunities elsewhere, and the best players in the world all came here.

Today ...

- U.S. college soccer is still pretty strong, though we're starting to see players go pro earlier -- so far just a few, as opposed to the dam-bursting in men's soccer.

- The NWSL has a firmer foundation than previous U.S. leagues. But ...

- European women's club soccer has taken off and gotten much more competitive. Lyon, the megabucks club, didn't even win the French championship this year. England's WSL is growing -- you can actually see their games now on U.S. TV. Barcelona became a juggernaut overnight.

I thought the USA was still the best team at the last World Cup. But they needed a couple of dodgy penalty decisions to win it.

What's more concerning is at youth level ...

U.S. U-20s in World Cups:
- 2002: Champions
- 2004: Third
- 2006: Fourth
- 2008: Champions
- 2010: Quarterfinals
- 2012: Champions
- 2014: Quarterfinals
- 2016: Fourth place
- 2018: Group stage

In other words, not in the top three since 2012.

U.S. Under-17s:
- 2008: Runners-up
- 2010: did not qualify
- 2012: Group stage
- 2014: did not qualify
- 2016: Group stage
- 2018: Group stage - beat Cameroon 3-0, lost 0-3 to North Korea, lost 0-4 to Germany

In the past, you could argue that the U-17s would improve on their path to the WNT because they spend the rest of their formative years in college soccer and then maybe the pros, while other countries' players would have limited opportunities. No more. Pro women's soccer is now a legitimate career choice in many European countries.

So the USA will need to respond with greater investment. That'll mean creating a better scouting network with the cooperation of all stakeholders in the youth game and changing the focus of equality from a retroactive eight-figure payout for the 2015 World Cup to fairer deals for both the MNT (still playing under an expired CBA) and the WNT (clock is ticking).

Good luck with that.

Success of youth national team is not a proper metric and does not equate to senior national teams. This is for a lot of reasons. One of which is that rarely do you see the best players in that age group playing in the youth teams. They’re usually playing with the senior team. Brazil is the only team to win a 17 and senior World Cup. England too but their WC was in 1966.

Think about how good the USWNT is. If they don’t win the World Cup, it will cause hysteria. They are that much better than everyone. I don’t know of any team in sports that has that kind of pressure on them.

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Anonymous wrote:Those team would easily beat the USWNT.

Barca is mostly Spanish players, US v Spain hasn’t gone well for Spain. Chelsea is more international, but who knows

Friendly reminder US has to beat Spain with two gifts in the form of pk last World Cup.

Friendly reminder that Spain’s WNT has won nothing. Ever.

It is nice though to see they are getting more competitive and may be able to crack into the top 5 best teams in Western Europe.

You are soooo smart!

They can’t win anything when they aren’t around. Friendly reminder the rest of the world didn’t really promote, endorse, foment and push for women soccer until a few years ago… USA women soccer has been around for 3-4 decades.

If you have any brain cells you’ll understand the progress Spain, France, Germany, Holland and any other European nation for that Matter, have made in just about 10 years demonstrates the USWNT will become a follower and not a leader in just about the next major trophy.

It’s hard to accept. But that’s life. Some people do it better.

10 years? Are we living in the 1990’s?

Germany WNT team has been around since 1982. (2003 and 2007 World Cup champions)
France WNT has been around since 1971.
Netherlands WNT has been around since 1971.
Spain WNT has been around since 1983.
USWNT has been around since 1985.

+1. The PP is one of those people that if you keep showing them facts they still won’t believe the truth. The USWNT has been around for less time than all those other major soccer countries and has so many more trophies. Not sure if the PP is a European transplant living off the fat of our country but still complaining, or simply a troll counter positing every time. It’s funny though. Next thing, he/she will talk about how great England is at soccer. England hasn’t won squat in decades in either gender (although I do think this is the year for the men in Euros). Then he/she will say, “but English teams have won the UEFA CL the last few years,” and we’ll say, “yeah but those teams have a lot of foreign players” ... but he/she will argue that fact too. The the PP will argue how great Spain is, and we’ll point out that they just spent 90 minutes passing the ball backwards and sideways to tie Sweden, and PP will call that the beautiful game. It’s called football snobbery and close mindedness and playing not to lose vs. to win. The simple fact is that the US has won more team world sports championships than any other nation. Why? We are bigger, richer, and more competitive. That makes people, jealous. For men’s soccer the fourth tier it holds professionally against football, basketball, and baseball is why we don’t win. If we removed pro football and baseball like almost all other countries we’d be the best in the world at men’s soccer too. But we don’t, so we probably won’t. So someday if we do win the men’s WC it will be that much sweeter when we can say that we were the best in the world at a sport that is still only our fourth tier for us.

No other country has anything like title 9. So let’s start the clock at 1972. This is the only reason the USWNT wins. The European women leagues have become way better vs NWSL. They are also paying a lot more vs NWSL(10,000 euros a month). Most of the posters here have never watched a women champions league game or any of the top European women’s clubs team but feel comfortable giving their expert analysis. Like the US never played women soccer before 1985. You just come off like an ignominious. Now that is football snobbery.
The question is is there a better women team than the USWNT? The answer is yes. There are 4-6 and they are European club teams. The Barca’s women’s team would beat the USWNT 9 out of 10 times. The only players on the USWNT showing well are the ones who played in Europe last year. You think a team with Mewis, Lavelle and Dahlkemper would have had better results and won a few trophies in a Europe?

Great post. The interesting thing is you could not say the bold 4-5 years ago. How quickly the landscape changes.

The best men’s club teams would also beat the best men’s national teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Those team would easily beat the USWNT.

Barca is mostly Spanish players, US v Spain hasn’t gone well for Spain. Chelsea is more international, but who knows

Friendly reminder US has to beat Spain with two gifts in the form of pk last World Cup.

Friendly reminder that Spain’s WNT has won nothing. Ever.

It is nice though to see they are getting more competitive and may be able to crack into the top 5 best teams in Western Europe.

You are soooo smart!

They can’t win anything when they aren’t around. Friendly reminder the rest of the world didn’t really promote, endorse, foment and push for women soccer until a few years ago… USA women soccer has been around for 3-4 decades.

If you have any brain cells you’ll understand the progress Spain, France, Germany, Holland and any other European nation for that Matter, have made in just about 10 years demonstrates the USWNT will become a follower and not a leader in just about the next major trophy.

It’s hard to accept. But that’s life. Some people do it better.

10 years? Are we living in the 1990’s?

Germany WNT team has been around since 1982. (2003 and 2007 World Cup champions)
France WNT has been around since 1971.
Netherlands WNT has been around since 1971.
Spain WNT has been around since 1983.
USWNT has been around since 1985.

+1. The PP is one of those people that if you keep showing them facts they still won’t believe the truth. The USWNT has been around for less time than all those other major soccer countries and has so many more trophies. Not sure if the PP is a European transplant living off the fat of our country but still complaining, or simply a troll counter positing every time. It’s funny though. Next thing, he/she will talk about how great England is at soccer. England hasn’t won squat in decades in either gender (although I do think this is the year for the men in Euros). Then he/she will say, “but English teams have won the UEFA CL the last few years,” and we’ll say, “yeah but those teams have a lot of foreign players” ... but he/she will argue that fact too. The the PP will argue how great Spain is, and we’ll point out that they just spent 90 minutes passing the ball backwards and sideways to tie Sweden, and PP will call that the beautiful game. It’s called football snobbery and close mindedness and playing not to lose vs. to win. The simple fact is that the US has won more team world sports championships than any other nation. Why? We are bigger, richer, and more competitive. That makes people, jealous. For men’s soccer the fourth tier it holds professionally against football, basketball, and baseball is why we don’t win. If we removed pro football and baseball like almost all other countries we’d be the best in the world at men’s soccer too. But we don’t, so we probably won’t. So someday if we do win the men’s WC it will be that much sweeter when we can say that we were the best in the world at a sport that is still only our fourth tier for us.

No other country has anything like title 9. So let’s start the clock at 1972. This is the only reason the USWNT wins. The European women leagues have become way better vs NWSL. They are also paying a lot more vs NWSL(10,000 euros a month). Most of the posters here have never watched a women champions league game or any of the top European women’s clubs team but feel comfortable giving their expert analysis. Like the US never played women soccer before 1985. You just come off like an ignominious. Now that is football snobbery.
The question is is there a better women team than the USWNT? The answer is yes. There are 4-6 and they are European club teams. The Barca’s women’s team would beat the USWNT 9 out of 10 times. The only players on the USWNT showing well are the ones who played in Europe last year. You think a team with Mewis, Lavelle and Dahlkemper would have had better results and won a few trophies in a Europe?

Great post. The interesting thing is you could not say the bold 4-5 years ago. How quickly the landscape changes.

The best men’s club teams would also beat the best men’s national teams.

Yes. That’s why the argument is dumb. It’s not apples to apples.

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Anonymous wrote:Those team would easily beat the USWNT.

Barca is mostly Spanish players, US v Spain hasn’t gone well for Spain. Chelsea is more international, but who knows

Friendly reminder US has to beat Spain with two gifts in the form of pk last World Cup.

Friendly reminder that Spain’s WNT has won nothing. Ever.

It is nice though to see they are getting more competitive and may be able to crack into the top 5 best teams in Western Europe.

You are soooo smart!

They can’t win anything when they aren’t around. Friendly reminder the rest of the world didn’t really promote, endorse, foment and push for women soccer until a few years ago… USA women soccer has been around for 3-4 decades.

If you have any brain cells you’ll understand the progress Spain, France, Germany, Holland and any other European nation for that Matter, have made in just about 10 years demonstrates the USWNT will become a follower and not a leader in just about the next major trophy.

It’s hard to accept. But that’s life. Some people do it better.

10 years? Are we living in the 1990’s?

Germany WNT team has been around since 1982. (2003 and 2007 World Cup champions)
France WNT has been around since 1971.
Netherlands WNT has been around since 1971.
Spain WNT has been around since 1983.
USWNT has been around since 1985.

+1. The PP is one of those people that if you keep showing them facts they still won’t believe the truth. The USWNT has been around for less time than all those other major soccer countries and has so many more trophies. Not sure if the PP is a European transplant living off the fat of our country but still complaining, or simply a troll counter positing every time. It’s funny though. Next thing, he/she will talk about how great England is at soccer. England hasn’t won squat in decades in either gender (although I do think this is the year for the men in Euros). Then he/she will say, “but English teams have won the UEFA CL the last few years,” and we’ll say, “yeah but those teams have a lot of foreign players” ... but he/she will argue that fact too. The the PP will argue how great Spain is, and we’ll point out that they just spent 90 minutes passing the ball backwards and sideways to tie Sweden, and PP will call that the beautiful game. It’s called football snobbery and close mindedness and playing not to lose vs. to win. The simple fact is that the US has won more team world sports championships than any other nation. Why? We are bigger, richer, and more competitive. That makes people, jealous. For men’s soccer the fourth tier it holds professionally against football, basketball, and baseball is why we don’t win. If we removed pro football and baseball like almost all other countries we’d be the best in the world at men’s soccer too. But we don’t, so we probably won’t. So someday if we do win the men’s WC it will be that much sweeter when we can say that we were the best in the world at a sport that is still only our fourth tier for us.

No other country has anything like title 9. So let’s start the clock at 1972. This is the only reason the USWNT wins. The European women leagues have become way better vs NWSL. They are also paying a lot more vs NWSL(10,000 euros a month). Most of the posters here have never watched a women champions league game or any of the top European women’s clubs team but feel comfortable giving their expert analysis. Like the US never played women soccer before 1985. You just come off like an ignominious. Now that is football snobbery.
The question is is there a better women team than the USWNT? The answer is yes. There are 4-6 and they are European club teams. The Barca’s women’s team would beat the USWNT 9 out of 10 times. The only players on the USWNT showing well are the ones who played in Europe last year. You think a team with Mewis, Lavelle and Dahlkemper would have had better results and won a few trophies in a Europe?

Great post. The interesting thing is you could not say the bold 4-5 years ago. How quickly the landscape changes.

The best men’s club teams would also beat the best men’s national teams.

Yes. That’s why the argument is dumb. It’s not apples to apples.

No. For years the USWNT has been dominant and unarguably the best women’s soccer team in the world. It is no longer so. Comparing men’s and women’s soccer is dumb. It is not apples to apples.

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Anonymous wrote:Those team would easily beat the USWNT.

Barca is mostly Spanish players, US v Spain hasn’t gone well for Spain. Chelsea is more international, but who knows

Friendly reminder US has to beat Spain with two gifts in the form of pk last World Cup.

Friendly reminder that Spain’s WNT has won nothing. Ever.

It is nice though to see they are getting more competitive and may be able to crack into the top 5 best teams in Western Europe.

You are soooo smart!

They can’t win anything when they aren’t around. Friendly reminder the rest of the world didn’t really promote, endorse, foment and push for women soccer until a few years ago… USA women soccer has been around for 3-4 decades.

If you have any brain cells you’ll understand the progress Spain, France, Germany, Holland and any other European nation for that Matter, have made in just about 10 years demonstrates the USWNT will become a follower and not a leader in just about the next major trophy.

It’s hard to accept. But that’s life. Some people do it better.

10 years? Are we living in the 1990’s?

Germany WNT team has been around since 1982. (2003 and 2007 World Cup champions)
France WNT has been around since 1971.
Netherlands WNT has been around since 1971.
Spain WNT has been around since 1983.
USWNT has been around since 1985.

+1. The PP is one of those people that if you keep showing them facts they still won’t believe the truth. The USWNT has been around for less time than all those other major soccer countries and has so many more trophies. Not sure if the PP is a European transplant living off the fat of our country but still complaining, or simply a troll counter positing every time. It’s funny though. Next thing, he/she will talk about how great England is at soccer. England hasn’t won squat in decades in either gender (although I do think this is the year for the men in Euros). Then he/she will say, “but English teams have won the UEFA CL the last few years,” and we’ll say, “yeah but those teams have a lot of foreign players” ... but he/she will argue that fact too. The the PP will argue how great Spain is, and we’ll point out that they just spent 90 minutes passing the ball backwards and sideways to tie Sweden, and PP will call that the beautiful game. It’s called football snobbery and close mindedness and playing not to lose vs. to win. The simple fact is that the US has won more team world sports championships than any other nation. Why? We are bigger, richer, and more competitive. That makes people, jealous. For men’s soccer the fourth tier it holds professionally against football, basketball, and baseball is why we don’t win. If we removed pro football and baseball like almost all other countries we’d be the best in the world at men’s soccer too. But we don’t, so we probably won’t. So someday if we do win the men’s WC it will be that much sweeter when we can say that we were the best in the world at a sport that is still only our fourth tier for us.

No other country has anything like title 9. So let’s start the clock at 1972. This is the only reason the USWNT wins. The European women leagues have become way better vs NWSL. They are also paying a lot more vs NWSL(10,000 euros a month). Most of the posters here have never watched a women champions league game or any of the top European women’s clubs team but feel comfortable giving their expert analysis. Like the US never played women soccer before 1985. You just come off like an ignominious. Now that is football snobbery.
The question is is there a better women team than the USWNT? The answer is yes. There are 4-6 and they are European club teams. The Barca’s women’s team would beat the USWNT 9 out of 10 times. The only players on the USWNT showing well are the ones who played in Europe last year. You think a team with Mewis, Lavelle and Dahlkemper would have had better results and won a few trophies in a Europe?

Great post. The interesting thing is you could not say the bold 4-5 years ago. How quickly the landscape changes.

The best men’s club teams would also beat the best men’s national teams.

Yes. That’s why the argument is dumb. It’s not apples to apples.

No. For years the USWNT has been dominant and unarguably the best women’s soccer team in the world. It is no longer so. Comparing men’s and women’s soccer is dumb. It is not apples to apples.

Remind me who won the last women's World Cup?

Please report back if they lose the next one, but until then, this is wishful thinking and imaginary matchups on your part.

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Anonymous wrote:Those team would easily beat the USWNT.

Barca is mostly Spanish players, US v Spain hasn’t gone well for Spain. Chelsea is more international, but who knows

Friendly reminder US has to beat Spain with two gifts in the form of pk last World Cup.

Friendly reminder that Spain’s WNT has won nothing. Ever.

It is nice though to see they are getting more competitive and may be able to crack into the top 5 best teams in Western Europe.

You are soooo smart!

They can’t win anything when they aren’t around. Friendly reminder the rest of the world didn’t really promote, endorse, foment and push for women soccer until a few years ago… USA women soccer has been around for 3-4 decades.

If you have any brain cells you’ll understand the progress Spain, France, Germany, Holland and any other European nation for that Matter, have made in just about 10 years demonstrates the USWNT will become a follower and not a leader in just about the next major trophy.

It’s hard to accept. But that’s life. Some people do it better.

10 years? Are we living in the 1990’s?

Germany WNT team has been around since 1982. (2003 and 2007 World Cup champions)
France WNT has been around since 1971.
Netherlands WNT has been around since 1971.
Spain WNT has been around since 1983.
USWNT has been around since 1985.

+1. The PP is one of those people that if you keep showing them facts they still won’t believe the truth. The USWNT has been around for less time than all those other major soccer countries and has so many more trophies. Not sure if the PP is a European transplant living off the fat of our country but still complaining, or simply a troll counter positing every time. It’s funny though. Next thing, he/she will talk about how great England is at soccer. England hasn’t won squat in decades in either gender (although I do think this is the year for the men in Euros). Then he/she will say, “but English teams have won the UEFA CL the last few years,” and we’ll say, “yeah but those teams have a lot of foreign players” ... but he/she will argue that fact too. The the PP will argue how great Spain is, and we’ll point out that they just spent 90 minutes passing the ball backwards and sideways to tie Sweden, and PP will call that the beautiful game. It’s called football snobbery and close mindedness and playing not to lose vs. to win. The simple fact is that the US has won more team world sports championships than any other nation. Why? We are bigger, richer, and more competitive. That makes people, jealous. For men’s soccer the fourth tier it holds professionally against football, basketball, and baseball is why we don’t win. If we removed pro football and baseball like almost all other countries we’d be the best in the world at men’s soccer too. But we don’t, so we probably won’t. So someday if we do win the men’s WC it will be that much sweeter when we can say that we were the best in the world at a sport that is still only our fourth tier for us.

No other country has anything like title 9. So let’s start the clock at 1972. This is the only reason the USWNT wins. The European women leagues have become way better vs NWSL. They are also paying a lot more vs NWSL(10,000 euros a month). Most of the posters here have never watched a women champions league game or any of the top European women’s clubs team but feel comfortable giving their expert analysis. Like the US never played women soccer before 1985. You just come off like an ignominious. Now that is football snobbery.
The question is is there a better women team than the USWNT? The answer is yes. There are 4-6 and they are European club teams. The Barca’s women’s team would beat the USWNT 9 out of 10 times. The only players on the USWNT showing well are the ones who played in Europe last year. You think a team with Mewis, Lavelle and Dahlkemper would have had better results and won a few trophies in a Europe?

Great post. The interesting thing is you could not say the bold 4-5 years ago. How quickly the landscape changes.

The best men’s club teams would also beat the best men’s national teams.

Yes. That’s why the argument is dumb. It’s not apples to apples.

No. For years the USWNT has been dominant and unarguably the best women’s soccer team in the world. It is no longer so. Comparing men’s and women’s soccer is dumb. It is not apples to apples.

Other countries have won world cups recently.