Please explain tryouts

[Anonymous]

As they age (U11/12) you’ll start to see a shift where defenders start to play most or all of the game if they are good, and weaker players me play some preset minimum time like half a game, but the better player will play significantly more than that.

Thank you for rasing the issue of the position mattering. A few people on our team have been snarky about the fact that my kid plays most of the game as a defender, but since their kid has absolutely no desire to do the position, I have no idea why they care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

As they age (U11/12) you’ll start to see a shift where defenders start to play most or all of the game if they are good, and weaker players me play some preset minimum time like half a game, but the better player will play significantly more than that.

Thank you for rasing the issue of the position mattering. A few people on our team have been snarky about the fact that my kid plays most of the game as a defender, but since their kid has absolutely no desire to do the position, I have no idea why they care.

Just because your kid has no desire to play the position your coach owes it to the TEAM to put every player in the position where the TEAM benefits the most. Everyone pays to be a part of the TEAM.
This isn't an individual sport and everyone must sacrifice some to make the team successful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do coaches typically have regular starters and bench players? If so, do starters play most of the game (more minutes) compared to bench players?

Yes especially starting in U12.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SO---they put all of the kids they pre-selected on a few small scrimmage fields. Any kids that are looking to transfer from first teams from other clubs also get a chance on those fields right at the start of tryouts. If in the tryout form your kid is listed on a lower team at another club, they will not get a chance to be put in that sorting group. The will get put to the neverland fields.

Most everyone else gets put on a low field where they might have one coach for 'show'. He/she doesn't really watch the tryout and sometimes even has backed turned talking to someone else.

I have a 16-year old and a 13-year old and this is what I have seen at every Club across the DMV.

Yes, and if you are observant like most soccer parents you'll clearly see which "field" your kids is on and if they are being moved down/up through the tryout.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

As they age (U11/12) you’ll start to see a shift where defenders start to play most or all of the game if they are good, and weaker players me play some preset minimum time like half a game, but the better player will play significantly more than that.

Thank you for rasing the issue of the position mattering. A few people on our team have been snarky about the fact that my kid plays most of the game as a defender, but since their kid has absolutely no desire to do the position, I have no idea why they care.

Just because your kid has no desire to play the position your coach owes it to the TEAM to put every player in the position where the TEAM benefits the most. Everyone pays to be a part of the TEAM.
This isn't an individual sport and everyone must sacrifice some to make the team successful.

No. At U14 and below, the coach should be rotating kids in positions. Lots of positions at the younger years and 2 or 3 as they get older. If the coach is putting people where they best benefit the TEAM, he/she is more concerned about wins than development. Youth soccer is indeed about individual development save the team focus for when it matters (HS/college/pro).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

As they age (U11/12) you’ll start to see a shift where defenders start to play most or all of the game if they are good, and weaker players me play some preset minimum time like half a game, but the better player will play significantly more than that.

Thank you for rasing the issue of the position mattering. A few people on our team have been snarky about the fact that my kid plays most of the game as a defender, but since their kid has absolutely no desire to do the position, I have no idea why they care.

Just because your kid has no desire to play the position your coach owes it to the TEAM to put every player in the position where the TEAM benefits the most. Everyone pays to be a part of the TEAM.
This isn't an individual sport and everyone must sacrifice some to make the team successful.

No. At U14 and below, the coach should be rotating kids in positions. Lots of positions at the younger years and 2 or 3 as they get older. If the coach is putting people where they best benefit the TEAM, he/she is more concerned about wins than development. Youth soccer is indeed about individual development save the team focus for when it matters (HS/college/pro).

Almost no kids on any U11/U12 team will ever sniff pro play, the vast majority will not play in college- so why focus development for a time when most won't actually be playing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SO---they put all of the kids they pre-selected on a few small scrimmage fields. Any kids that are looking to transfer from first teams from other clubs also get a chance on those fields right at the start of tryouts. If in the tryout form your kid is listed on a lower team at another club, they will not get a chance to be put in that sorting group. The will get put to the neverland fields.

Most everyone else gets put on a low field where they might have one coach for 'show'. He/she doesn't really watch the tryout and sometimes even has backed turned talking to someone else.

I have a 16-year old and a 13-year old and this is what I have seen at every Club across the DMV.

Yes, and if you are observant like most soccer parents you'll clearly see which "field" your kids is on and if they are being moved down/up through the tryout.

The worst are the fields way out in the netherlands that nobody bothers to watch and nobody is moving anywhere.

But, by the way they call out the kids at the start of the tryout you can already see what team they will be on no matter if they are a standout on their little patch of field.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

As they age (U11/12) you’ll start to see a shift where defenders start to play most or all of the game if they are good, and weaker players me play some preset minimum time like half a game, but the better player will play significantly more than that.

Thank you for rasing the issue of the position mattering. A few people on our team have been snarky about the fact that my kid plays most of the game as a defender, but since their kid has absolutely no desire to do the position, I have no idea why they care.

Just because your kid has no desire to play the position your coach owes it to the TEAM to put every player in the position where the TEAM benefits the most. Everyone pays to be a part of the TEAM.
This isn't an individual sport and everyone must sacrifice some to make the team successful.

No. At U14 and below, the coach should be rotating kids in positions. Lots of positions at the younger years and 2 or 3 as they get older. If the coach is putting people where they best benefit the TEAM, he/she is more concerned about wins than development. Youth soccer is indeed about individual development save the team focus for when it matters (HS/college/pro).

What makes U14 the magic cut off? because you know so much about soccer right? Winning is a huge part of development just as important as skills. rarely do you hear a top college or pro say "I played low level and lost most of my youth games" Dont buy into the crap that winning isn a big part of development.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SO---they put all of the kids they pre-selected on a few small scrimmage fields. Any kids that are looking to transfer from first teams from other clubs also get a chance on those fields right at the start of tryouts. If in the tryout form your kid is listed on a lower team at another club, they will not get a chance to be put in that sorting group. The will get put to the neverland fields.

Most everyone else gets put on a low field where they might have one coach for 'show'. He/she doesn't really watch the tryout and sometimes even has backed turned talking to someone else.

I have a 16-year old and a 13-year old and this is what I have seen at every Club across the DMV.

Yes, and if you are observant like most soccer parents you'll clearly see which "field" your kids is on and if they are being moved down/up through the tryout.

The worst are the fields way out in the netherlands that nobody bothers to watch and nobody is moving anywhere.

But, by the way they call out the kids at the start of the tryout you can already see what team they will be on no matter if they are a standout on their little patch of field.

I thought that at one tryout, but also thought those kids looked really good. It turns out it was the current team and the coach was just letting them scrimmage with no oversight with a couple of others that they picked out early. That field ended up going later, but no one was really paying attention until later

[Anonymous]

Thank you for rasing the issue of the position mattering. A few people on our team have been snarky about the fact that my kid plays most of the game as a defender, but since their kid has absolutely no desire to do the position, I have no idea why they care.



Just because your kid has no desire to play the position your coach owes it to the TEAM to put every player in the position where the TEAM benefits the most. Everyone pays to be a part of the TEAM.
This isn't an individual sport and everyone must sacrifice some to make the team successful.

Oh, they would whine and moan if their kid were put in as a defender instead of mine (they want to be striker, wing, or mid, like most everyone else), so there's no making them happy. I'd be fine with my kid rotating, but it's rarely offered, and he's happy where he is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

As they age (U11/12) you’ll start to see a shift where defenders start to play most or all of the game if they are good, and weaker players me play some preset minimum time like half a game, but the better player will play significantly more than that.

Thank you for rasing the issue of the position mattering. A few people on our team have been snarky about the fact that my kid plays most of the game as a defender, but since their kid has absolutely no desire to do the position, I have no idea why they care.

The pp is true. My son plays RB/RWB and plays the entire game. However, it’s a very American think to be snarky about someone’s kid playing defense an entire game. Makes no sense to me. It takes a special player to be able to shut down a top notch attacker. I love watching a defender who can put an attacker in shackles during a game

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

As they age (U11/12) you’ll start to see a shift where defenders start to play most or all of the game if they are good, and weaker players me play some preset minimum time like half a game, but the better player will play significantly more than that.

Thank you for rasing the issue of the position mattering. A few people on our team have been snarky about the fact that my kid plays most of the game as a defender, but since their kid has absolutely no desire to do the position, I have no idea why they care.

The pp is true. My son plays RB/RWB and plays the entire game. However, it’s a very American think to be snarky about someone’s kid playing defense an entire game. Makes no sense to me. It takes a special player to be able to shut down a top notch attacker. I love watching a defender who can put an attacker in shackles during a game

I think by u14 the starting 11 should play most of the game or at least its time to stop the equal playing time approach. Especially for the GK and the defensive backs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

As they age (U11/12) you’ll start to see a shift where defenders start to play most or all of the game if they are good, and weaker players me play some preset minimum time like half a game, but the better player will play significantly more than that.

Thank you for rasing the issue of the position mattering. A few people on our team have been snarky about the fact that my kid plays most of the game as a defender, but since their kid has absolutely no desire to do the position, I have no idea why they care.

The pp is true. My son plays RB/RWB and plays the entire game. However, it’s a very American think to be snarky about someone’s kid playing defense an entire game. Makes no sense to me. It takes a special player to be able to shut down a top notch attacker. I love watching a defender who can put an attacker in shackles during a game

+1 Great defenders save many goals!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

As they age (U11/12) you’ll start to see a shift where defenders start to play most or all of the game if they are good, and weaker players me play some preset minimum time like half a game, but the better player will play significantly more than that.

Thank you for rasing the issue of the position mattering. A few people on our team have been snarky about the fact that my kid plays most of the game as a defender, but since their kid has absolutely no desire to do the position, I have no idea why they care.

Just because your kid has no desire to play the position your coach owes it to the TEAM to put every player in the position where the TEAM benefits the most. Everyone pays to be a part of the TEAM.
This isn't an individual sport and everyone must sacrifice some to make the team successful.

No. At U14 and below, the coach should be rotating kids in positions. Lots of positions at the younger years and 2 or 3 as they get older. If the coach is putting people where they best benefit the TEAM, he/she is more concerned about wins than development. Youth soccer is indeed about individual development save the team focus for when it matters (HS/college/pro).

What makes U14 the magic cut off? because you know so much about soccer right? Winning is a huge part of development just as important as skills. rarely do you hear a top college or pro say "I played low level and lost most of my youth games" Dont buy into the crap that winning isn a big part of development.

There are a few simple reasons, although it is below U13, which also ties into why rotation is more beneficial for all players than specialized positions before that time. Also, the troublesome RAE lurking in corners. I'm sure you have read all about these things and completely understand why the kids play within specific conditions for those lower age groups—your super-smart. Show a little curiosity.

[Anonymous]

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As they age (U11/12) you’ll start to see a shift where defenders start to play most or all of the game if they are good, and weaker players me play some preset minimum time like half a game, but the better player will play significantly more than that.

Thank you for rasing the issue of the position mattering. A few people on our team have been snarky about the fact that my kid plays most of the game as a defender, but since their kid has absolutely no desire to do the position, I have no idea why they care.

Just because your kid has no desire to play the position your coach owes it to the TEAM to put every player in the position where the TEAM benefits the most. Everyone pays to be a part of the TEAM.
This isn't an individual sport and everyone must sacrifice some to make the team successful.

No. At U14 and below, the coach should be rotating kids in positions. Lots of positions at the younger years and 2 or 3 as they get older. If the coach is putting people where they best benefit the TEAM, he/she is more concerned about wins than development. Youth soccer is indeed about individual development save the team focus for when it matters (HS/college/pro).

Almost no kids on any U11/U12 team will ever sniff pro play, the vast majority will not play in college- so why focus development for a time when most won't actually be playing?

Agreed. Why bother having kids at all? They're just going to die eventually.