What happens to unaccompanied minor immigrants who can't reach their relative?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was reading a WaPo article on unaccompanied migrant children and saw this: "The refugee office of HHS is responsible for caring for the minors while identifying a family member, relative or another vetted sponsor who can assume custody. The process typically takes 30 days or more, and the HHS shelters are nearly at capacity, with about 8,500 minors in government care."

What happens if they can't find a relative or vetted sponsor who can assume custody? The article doesn't say.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/biden-administration-will-use-dallas-convention-center-to-shelter-migrant-teen-boys/2021/03/15/2b79b430-85b3-11eb-8a67-f314e5fcf88d_story.html

Are sponsors are pre planned before the minor enters the US? Maybe some minors might be on the old side or above the age and had no intention of entering the US formal system and ORR. LA Times article from 2019 https://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-migrants-todossantos-20190711-story.html

"The migration is driven by economics.

It has become deeply ingrained in the culture and a rite of passage for many young men and increasingly for women and children. Seemingly every family here has a close relative in el norte, from California to Florida, Oregon to Virginia."



3/15/21 Washington Post reports 8500 in HHS and as of 1/31/21 it was 5126 [77% males age 15+]. Biden's immigration plan had present in the US as of Jan 2021.
In Care Statistics Calculated on the Last Day of the Month
1/31/2021
Male =71%
Female=29%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump was literally ripping babies away from their mothers.
These aren’t the same circumstances.

The places in which these children are staying are *exactly* the same places DCUM’s finest referred to as “concentration camps.” And you know it. Your denial and distraction fools no one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No concern from MSM/Democrats about the criminals pouring in either.

Kids aren’t criminals.

Adult men are typically detained in jail-like settings. They are held until their court proceedings, and then they are deported unless they are eligible for asylum. It’s a high bar.

DP. Cartels are being enriched and emboldened by these enormous surges of migrants. Criminals don’t have to actually enter the US to benefit richly from this situation.

One Mexican official familiar with migration developments, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said organized crime began changing its modus operandi "from the day Biden took office" and now exhibited "unprecedented" levels of sophistication.

That includes briefing clients on the latest immigration rules, using technology to outfox authorities, and disguising smuggling operations as travel agencies, assessments showed.

“Migrants have become a commodity," the official said, arguing they were now as valuable as drugs for the gangs.”

Higher concentrations of migrants in border areas have encouraged gangs to recruit some as drug mules, and kidnap others for money, said Cesar Peniche, attorney general of Chihuahua, the state with the longest stretch of U.S. frontier.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-mexico-exclusive-idUSKBN2B21D8

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You seem to be in la-la land, 17:23.

I have close friends in immigration legal services and policy advocacy in orgs serving these kids. This is exactly what happens. Most kids come with contact info for the relative whose name they provide to the ORR-funded staff at the shelter where they are held. The US based contacts are expecting the call from the shelter staff. They have documentation proving they are the right person and confirming familial contact.

Sometimes kids are sent back properly (when no US based sponsor can be identified and foster care is the only option).

What do you think happens to unaccompanied kids?

Thousands of them are getting sent to the Dallas Convention Center for now. I guarantee you, your friends don’t have nearly enough colleagues to process these people. You seem to be unaware of the numbers flooding in, you know, since Biden encouraged them from all over the world. Maybe you could volunteer to help your friend. They’re swamped.

I know they’re swamped.

But they won’t toss kids out on the street. And they won’t turn them over to alleged relatives without proof. It’s a process. Sometimes the process happens quickly, and sometimes it takes 60 days or more.

They’ll staff up to handle the influx. And some kids will be stuck waiting for a while.

And yet all of that was horrific and unacceptable under the last administration. Interesting change in tone.
DP

Exactly.

Last administration was actively hurting children. Literally going out of their way to do it.
And by the posts here it seems the Trump supporters agreed with the cruelty

Is it just one apologist here or are there several? Lots of Jen Psaki-style posts, trying to put a rational spin on the irrational.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump was literally ripping babies away from their mothers.
These aren’t the same circumstances.

The places in which these children are staying are *exactly* the same places DCUM’s finest referred to as “concentration camps.” And you know it. Your denial and distraction fools no one.

Nobody's arguing that they aren't. They're arguimg that Trump deliberagely created orphans. And you know it. Your obfuscation fools no one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You seem to be in la-la land, 17:23.

I have close friends in immigration legal services and policy advocacy in orgs serving these kids. This is exactly what happens. Most kids come with contact info for the relative whose name they provide to the ORR-funded staff at the shelter where they are held. The US based contacts are expecting the call from the shelter staff. They have documentation proving they are the right person and confirming familial contact.

Sometimes kids are sent back properly (when no US based sponsor can be identified and foster care is the only option).

What do you think happens to unaccompanied kids?

Thousands of them are getting sent to the Dallas Convention Center for now. I guarantee you, your friends don’t have nearly enough colleagues to process these people. You seem to be unaware of the numbers flooding in, you know, since Biden encouraged them from all over the world. Maybe you could volunteer to help your friend. They’re swamped.

I know they’re swamped.

But they won’t toss kids out on the street. And they won’t turn them over to alleged relatives without proof. It’s a process. Sometimes the process happens quickly, and sometimes it takes 60 days or more.

They’ll staff up to handle the influx. And some kids will be stuck waiting for a while.

And yet all of that was horrific and unacceptable under the last administration. Interesting change in tone.
DP

Exactly.

Last administration was actively hurting children. Literally going out of their way to do it.
And by the posts here it seems the Trump supporters agreed with the cruelty

Is it just one apologist here or are there several? Lots of Jen Psaki-style posts, trying to put a rational spin on the irrational.

What's irrational is that the same people who cheered on Trump's ripping apart of families are now suddenly concerned for the children. You fool no one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No concern from MSM/Democrats about the criminals pouring in either.

Kids aren’t criminals.

Adult men are typically detained in jail-like settings. They are held until their court proceedings, and then they are deported unless they are eligible for asylum. It’s a high bar.

The issue is that many of them are not kids. There is no id required for "children" so 20 can easily become 16. Sixteen lets you stay in the US and gives you access to school and all of its support services. I am very pre-immigration but not in a whoever can get over the border first way.

You might be surprised to hear that doctors are employed to determine age if it can’t be confirmed with legit documentation.

18 year olds are housed in jail like settings. A 17 year old who has spent weeks in the youth shelter is quickly transferred to the adult setting when he turns 18.

You’re just making assumptions that aren’t true.

And you are flat-out lying. They don’t know the birthdays of these kids. Anyone could say anything. They don’t magically move them at age 18 because they have NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW OLD THEY ARE. Do you know how ridiculous you sound? The border is chaos. Just admit it.
DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No concern from MSM/Democrats about the criminals pouring in either.

Kids aren’t criminals.

Adult men are typically detained in jail-like settings. They are held until their court proceedings, and then they are deported unless they are eligible for asylum. It’s a high bar.

You have zero evidence.

This is the protocol created by law and supported by tax dollars administered through federal agencies.

Hello, this country is in the mist of a CRISIS.

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You are apparently addressing a bot, programmed with Biden administration talking points. This bot keeps repeating the same things over and over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No concern from MSM/Democrats about the criminals pouring in either.

Kids aren’t criminals.

Adult men are typically detained in jail-like settings. They are held until their court proceedings, and then they are deported unless they are eligible for asylum. It’s a high bar.

You have zero evidence.

This is the protocol created by law and supported by tax dollars administered through federal agencies.

Hello, this country is in the mist of a CRISIS.

I think you mean “midst.”

I understand we have a crisis.

We had a crisis in Summer 2018, too. They ramped up. They’ll ramp up again. Unfortunately, people will need to be patient. Processing will take longer. Some will wait in makeshift facilities that aren’t as nice as the long-standing shelters.

What do you think will happen? Are you afraid they’ll just release people on their own? That won’t happen. Most adults will be sent back eventually (they have court proceedings first). Most kids will be sent to live with their relative/sponsor.

DP. Tell us what your reaction to this situation “ramping up” was in 2018. We’ll wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is completely going to get me ripped on this board but, why aren’t the unaccompanied minors turned away at the border?

The Homeland Security Act of 2002 requires that the government to house them, then place them with vetted relatives, while their immigration proceedings are pending.

Which is why their parents are (shamefully) sending them. They know kids will be admitted and then they can follow later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump was literally ripping babies away from their mothers.
These aren’t the same circumstances.

The places in which these children are staying are *exactly* the same places DCUM’s finest referred to as “concentration camps.” And you know it. Your denial and distraction fools no one.

Nobody's arguing that they aren't. They're arguimg that Trump deliberagely created orphans. And you know it. Your obfuscation fools no one.

Do you also believe the criminal justice system also creates orphans when American parents are jailed for breaking the law?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump was literally ripping babies away from their mothers.
These aren’t the same circumstances.

The places in which these children are staying are *exactly* the same places DCUM’s finest referred to as “concentration camps.” And you know it. Your denial and distraction fools no one.

Nobody's arguing that they aren't. They're arguimg that Trump deliberagely created orphans. And you know it. Your obfuscation fools no one.

Nope. Remember “kids in cages”?? Well, guess what. There are still kids in cages. Just thousands more than ever before. And you’re fine with that. Because Biden.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You seem to be in la-la land, 17:23.

I have close friends in immigration legal services and policy advocacy in orgs serving these kids. This is exactly what happens. Most kids come with contact info for the relative whose name they provide to the ORR-funded staff at the shelter where they are held. The US based contacts are expecting the call from the shelter staff. They have documentation proving they are the right person and confirming familial contact.

Sometimes kids are sent back properly (when no US based sponsor can be identified and foster care is the only option).

What do you think happens to unaccompanied kids?

Thousands of them are getting sent to the Dallas Convention Center for now. I guarantee you, your friends don’t have nearly enough colleagues to process these people. You seem to be unaware of the numbers flooding in, you know, since Biden encouraged them from all over the world. Maybe you could volunteer to help your friend. They’re swamped.

I know they’re swamped.

But they won’t toss kids out on the street. And they won’t turn them over to alleged relatives without proof. It’s a process. Sometimes the process happens quickly, and sometimes it takes 60 days or more.

They’ll staff up to handle the influx. And some kids will be stuck waiting for a while.

And yet all of that was horrific and unacceptable under the last administration. Interesting change in tone.
DP

Exactly.

Last administration was actively hurting children. Literally going out of their way to do it.
And by the posts here it seems the Trump supporters agreed with the cruelty

Is it just one apologist here or are there several? Lots of Jen Psaki-style posts, trying to put a rational spin on the irrational.

What's irrational is that the same people who cheered on Trump's ripping apart of families are now suddenly concerned for the children. You fool no one.

You seem particularly dense. What we are pointing out is YOUR gross hypocrisy. YOU were hysterical about “the children” when Trump was president. Now you’re not. And we will continue pointing out this hypocrisy. Enjoy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump was literally ripping babies away from their mothers.
These aren’t the same circumstances.

The places in which these children are staying are *exactly* the same places DCUM’s finest referred to as “concentration camps.” And you know it. Your denial and distraction fools no one.

Nobody's arguing that they aren't. They're arguimg that Trump deliberagely created orphans. And you know it. Your obfuscation fools no one.

Do you also believe the criminal justice system also creates orphans when American parents are jailed for breaking the law?

They don't get jailed for jaywalking. But you don't care. You love to see children tormented and tortured, because their skin is brown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump was literally ripping babies away from their mothers.
These aren’t the same circumstances.

The places in which these children are staying are *exactly* the same places DCUM’s finest referred to as “concentration camps.” And you know it. Your denial and distraction fools no one.

Nobody's arguing that they aren't. They're arguimg that Trump deliberagely created orphans. And you know it. Your obfuscation fools no one.

Nope. Remember “kids in cages”?? Well, guess what. There are still kids in cages. Just thousands more than ever before. And you’re fine with that. Because Biden.

Nobody is saying they're fine with it. The only people who are fine with it are MAGA, because the children have dark skin.