Outdoor lunch petition in APS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the issue is monitors, then why are the kids allowed to go outside for 15 minutes in the courtyard after lunch?

Why don’t you think about that for a few minutes and see if you can come up with some ideas. What are some differences between the courtyard and the sport courts/fields? How are the lunch shifts scheduled?

hahahaha. these haters don't have actual ideas, lol, they just want to criticize.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the issue is monitors, then why are the kids allowed to go outside for 15 minutes in the courtyard after lunch?

Why don’t you think about that for a few minutes and see if you can come up with some ideas. What are some differences between the courtyard and the sport courts/fields? How are the lunch shifts scheduled?

I really do not understand why parents on this board are arguing about this. Everybody knows eating outside is better. Instead of arguing why don’t you help to come up with better solutions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the issue is monitors, then why are the kids allowed to go outside for 15 minutes in the courtyard after lunch?

Why don’t you think about that for a few minutes and see if you can come up with some ideas. What are some differences between the courtyard and the sport courts/fields? How are the lunch shifts scheduled?

I really do not understand why parents on this board are arguing about this. Everybody knows eating outside is better. Instead of arguing why don’t you help to come up with better solutions?

Did you mean to respond to a different post? Because your comment is completely unresponsive to this one.

Personally? If I come up with a better idea, I’ll suggest it. But sometimes what’s out there is the best option give the resource constraints, even if we don’t like it. Maybe that’s not the case here and someone will come up with a legitimately better idea. But pp’s poorly thought out comment wasn’t it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty funny that the organizer of this is keeping her kids home. The irony is that she is always attacking anyone who pulled kids from APS to send to private. She seems to think those parents should stay quiet and not advocate to open APS. Does she have self-awareness. But whatever, I’ll sign her petition so long as it doesn’t delay reopening timeline. These things go nowhere anyway.

That's the thing though. The vent ppl will use this to try to get schools closed. They are insane and drunk on self--righteousness. I was originally a part of their group but then they went overboard.

I'm the poster who noted the logical inconsistency in the petition, and this is part of my concern. The person who drafted it is hell bent on keeping schools closed, so I don't fully trust her motivations here or how she will use this petition if she gets a lot of signatures effectively saying that outdoor lunch is a necessity from parents who may not think through the implications of what they're signing.

why would someone bother putting together a petition for outdoor lunch if they wanted to keep schools closed?

Every lobbyist, lawyer and consultant who read your question just snickered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty funny that the organizer of this is keeping her kids home. The irony is that she is always attacking anyone who pulled kids from APS to send to private. She seems to think those parents should stay quiet and not advocate to open APS. Does she have self-awareness. But whatever, I’ll sign her petition so long as it doesn’t delay reopening timeline. These things go nowhere anyway.

Not sure why you find this funny. I'm keeping my kid home because his school is putting them all into a cafeteria together. Maybe your kids are in private or in a school with better lunch plans so this is amusing to you. But not to me.

It’s funny because the organizer lacks self-awareness. I pulled my kids to private because I need to go to work 5 days a week and can’t leave them home alone. I saw the writing early on and frantically applied and got them into a catholic. It’s not a long term solution for my family and I want my kids back in their neighborhood school. Yet she constantly attacks people like me for not having my kids in public, as if I forfeited all right to advocate to APS. (Btw, I don’t actually post on AEM in part because of nasty mean people like her that attack others. So, yes, it’s funny her logic doesn’t apply to herself. Perfectly okay for her to advocate on lunch even though she is t sending her kids - yea, sure. For the record, I think both parents in both cases should be able to advocate. But HER hypocrisy IS funny, in a sad way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty funny that the organizer of this is keeping her kids home. The irony is that she is always attacking anyone who pulled kids from APS to send to private. She seems to think those parents should stay quiet and not advocate to open APS. Does she have self-awareness. But whatever, I’ll sign her petition so long as it doesn’t delay reopening timeline. These things go nowhere anyway.

Not sure why you find this funny. I'm keeping my kid home because his school is putting them all into a cafeteria together. Maybe your kids are in private or in a school with better lunch plans so this is amusing to you. But not to me.

It’s funny because the organizer lacks self-awareness. I pulled my kids to private because I need to go to work 5 days a week and can’t leave them home alone. I saw the writing early on and frantically applied and got them into a catholic. It’s not a long term solution for my family and I want my kids back in their neighborhood school. Yet she constantly attacks people like me for not having my kids in public, as if I forfeited all right to advocate to APS. (Btw, I don’t actually post on AEM in part because of nasty mean people like her that attack others. So, yes, it’s funny her logic doesn’t apply to herself. Perfectly okay for her to advocate on lunch even though she is t sending her kids - yea, sure. For the record, I think both parents in both cases should be able to advocate. But HER hypocrisy IS funny, in a sad way.

It's not hypocritical. Her kids are still in the system, whereas yours are not. That's a pretty fundamental difference in terms of having skin in the game. So I have no problem at all with her advocating for outdoor lunch, as it may someday benefit her kid(s) at some point and will definitely benefit other kids in the short term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty funny that the organizer of this is keeping her kids home. The irony is that she is always attacking anyone who pulled kids from APS to send to private. She seems to think those parents should stay quiet and not advocate to open APS. Does she have self-awareness. But whatever, I’ll sign her petition so long as it doesn’t delay reopening timeline. These things go nowhere anyway.

Not sure why you find this funny. I'm keeping my kid home because his school is putting them all into a cafeteria together. Maybe your kids are in private or in a school with better lunch plans so this is amusing to you. But not to me.

It’s funny because the organizer lacks self-awareness. I pulled my kids to private because I need to go to work 5 days a week and can’t leave them home alone. I saw the writing early on and frantically applied and got them into a catholic. It’s not a long term solution for my family and I want my kids back in their neighborhood school. Yet she constantly attacks people like me for not having my kids in public, as if I forfeited all right to advocate to APS. (Btw, I don’t actually post on AEM in part because of nasty mean people like her that attack others. So, yes, it’s funny her logic doesn’t apply to herself. Perfectly okay for her to advocate on lunch even though she is t sending her kids - yea, sure. For the record, I think both parents in both cases should be able to advocate. But HER hypocrisy IS funny, in a sad way.

Are you going to sign it (because outdoor lunch is a no brainer) or are you not going to sign it (because you're petty and don't like the organizer)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty funny that the organizer of this is keeping her kids home. The irony is that she is always attacking anyone who pulled kids from APS to send to private. She seems to think those parents should stay quiet and not advocate to open APS. Does she have self-awareness. But whatever, I’ll sign her petition so long as it doesn’t delay reopening timeline. These things go nowhere anyway.

Not sure why you find this funny. I'm keeping my kid home because his school is putting them all into a cafeteria together. Maybe your kids are in private or in a school with better lunch plans so this is amusing to you. But not to me.

It’s funny because the organizer lacks self-awareness. I pulled my kids to private because I need to go to work 5 days a week and can’t leave them home alone. I saw the writing early on and frantically applied and got them into a catholic. It’s not a long term solution for my family and I want my kids back in their neighborhood school. Yet she constantly attacks people like me for not having my kids in public, as if I forfeited all right to advocate to APS. (Btw, I don’t actually post on AEM in part because of nasty mean people like her that attack others. So, yes, it’s funny her logic doesn’t apply to herself. Perfectly okay for her to advocate on lunch even though she is t sending her kids - yea, sure. For the record, I think both parents in both cases should be able to advocate. But HER hypocrisy IS funny, in a sad way.

It's not hypocritical. Her kids are still in the system, whereas yours are not. That's a pretty fundamental difference in terms of having skin in the game. So I have no problem at all with her advocating for outdoor lunch, as it may someday benefit her kid(s) at some point and will definitely benefit other kids in the short term.

Did you miss where pp said she wanted to move her kids back to public? She has as much of an interest in school reopening as the petition organizer does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty funny that the organizer of this is keeping her kids home. The irony is that she is always attacking anyone who pulled kids from APS to send to private. She seems to think those parents should stay quiet and not advocate to open APS. Does she have self-awareness. But whatever, I’ll sign her petition so long as it doesn’t delay reopening timeline. These things go nowhere anyway.

Not sure why you find this funny. I'm keeping my kid home because his school is putting them all into a cafeteria together. Maybe your kids are in private or in a school with better lunch plans so this is amusing to you. But not to me.

It’s funny because the organizer lacks self-awareness. I pulled my kids to private because I need to go to work 5 days a week and can’t leave them home alone. I saw the writing early on and frantically applied and got them into a catholic. It’s not a long term solution for my family and I want my kids back in their neighborhood school. Yet she constantly attacks people like me for not having my kids in public, as if I forfeited all right to advocate to APS. (Btw, I don’t actually post on AEM in part because of nasty mean people like her that attack others. So, yes, it’s funny her logic doesn’t apply to herself. Perfectly okay for her to advocate on lunch even though she is t sending her kids - yea, sure. For the record, I think both parents in both cases should be able to advocate. But HER hypocrisy IS funny, in a sad way.

It's not hypocritical. Her kids are still in the system, whereas yours are not. That's a pretty fundamental difference in terms of having skin in the game. So I have no problem at all with her advocating for outdoor lunch, as it may someday benefit her kid(s) at some point and will definitely benefit other kids in the short term.

You really don’t see how silly it is in both scenario? Hey single mom that had to pull 5 yo out of APS so she can actually go to work to keep a roof over her head: shut up! You’re not in the system anymore! What’s that? You can’t afford another yet of private and desperately need to APS to be 5 days a week? Too bad, so sad you pulled your kids and have no skin in the game! This lady is one of the most notorious trolls on AEM, so for that reason alone I wouldn’t sign it. I wouldn’t trust her intentions or sincerity AT ALL. Also I feel very safe with APS plan to eat outdoors when feasible or in the classroom. I’m comfortable with it because it’s what my kids’ school has been doing all year - 5 days a week!

[Anonymous]

Overrated school system fall hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty funny that the organizer of this is keeping her kids home. The irony is that she is always attacking anyone who pulled kids from APS to send to private. She seems to think those parents should stay quiet and not advocate to open APS. Does she have self-awareness. But whatever, I’ll sign her petition so long as it doesn’t delay reopening timeline. These things go nowhere anyway.

Not sure why you find this funny. I'm keeping my kid home because his school is putting them all into a cafeteria together. Maybe your kids are in private or in a school with better lunch plans so this is amusing to you. But not to me.

It’s funny because the organizer lacks self-awareness. I pulled my kids to private because I need to go to work 5 days a week and can’t leave them home alone. I saw the writing early on and frantically applied and got them into a catholic. It’s not a long term solution for my family and I want my kids back in their neighborhood school. Yet she constantly attacks people like me for not having my kids in public, as if I forfeited all right to advocate to APS. (Btw, I don’t actually post on AEM in part because of nasty mean people like her that attack others. So, yes, it’s funny her logic doesn’t apply to herself. Perfectly okay for her to advocate on lunch even though she is t sending her kids - yea, sure. For the record, I think both parents in both cases should be able to advocate. But HER hypocrisy IS funny, in a sad way.

It's not hypocritical. Her kids are still in the system, whereas yours are not. That's a pretty fundamental difference in terms of having skin in the game. So I have no problem at all with her advocating for outdoor lunch, as it may someday benefit her kid(s) at some point and will definitely benefit other kids in the short term.

You really don’t see how silly it is in both scenario? Hey single mom that had to pull 5 yo out of APS so she can actually go to work to keep a roof over her head: shut up! You’re not in the system anymore! What’s that? You can’t afford another yet of private and desperately need to APS to be 5 days a week? Too bad, so sad you pulled your kids and have no skin in the game! This lady is one of the most notorious trolls on AEM, so for that reason alone I wouldn’t sign it. I wouldn’t trust her intentions or sincerity AT ALL. Also I feel very safe with APS plan to eat outdoors when feasible or in the classroom. I’m comfortable with it because it’s what my kids’ school has been doing all year - 5 days a week!

NP: I agree that outdoor lunch is better than indoor lunch. And I agree that that is what APS is already doing and saying. I absolutely do not trust the organizer of this petition. Yes, who the organizer is as a big influence on why I will not sign- b/c I view this as an attempted 'poison pill.' She is absolutely vicious and mean, and kind of crazy. The last thing I want to do is give her a further platform.

[Anonymous]

Not ALL schools are offering outdoors as an option. Literally not an option for any student at WMS. While the feeder elementaries are ALL doing outdoor lunch. Yorktown also strongly encouraging students to eat outdoors. APS needs to mandate an outdoor option, weather permitting. That’s a minimum basic requirement in my view.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not ALL schools are offering outdoors as an option. Literally not an option for any student at WMS. While the feeder elementaries are ALL doing outdoor lunch. Yorktown also strongly encouraging students to eat outdoors. APS needs to mandate an outdoor option, weather permitting. That’s a minimum basic requirement in my view.

The bolded is untrue. Your kid can do outdoor lunch if you check them out for lunch and then check them back in. Yes, that puts the work on parents, but it is an option. They have also said repeatedly that they plan to have an outdoor lunch option later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not ALL schools are offering outdoors as an option. Literally not an option for any student at WMS. While the feeder elementaries are ALL doing outdoor lunch. Yorktown also strongly encouraging students to eat outdoors. APS needs to mandate an outdoor option, weather permitting. That’s a minimum basic requirement in my view.

The bolded is untrue. Your kid can do outdoor lunch if you check them out for lunch and then check them back in. Yes, that puts the work on parents, but it is an option. They have also said repeatedly that they plan to have an outdoor lunch option later.

So only those kids whose parents who are able to check them out for lunch are able to eat safely? Yeah, that's a fair solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty funny that the organizer of this is keeping her kids home. The irony is that she is always attacking anyone who pulled kids from APS to send to private. She seems to think those parents should stay quiet and not advocate to open APS. Does she have self-awareness. But whatever, I’ll sign her petition so long as it doesn’t delay reopening timeline. These things go nowhere anyway.

Not sure why you find this funny. I'm keeping my kid home because his school is putting them all into a cafeteria together. Maybe your kids are in private or in a school with better lunch plans so this is amusing to you. But not to me.

It’s funny because the organizer lacks self-awareness. I pulled my kids to private because I need to go to work 5 days a week and can’t leave them home alone. I saw the writing early on and frantically applied and got them into a catholic. It’s not a long term solution for my family and I want my kids back in their neighborhood school. Yet she constantly attacks people like me for not having my kids in public, as if I forfeited all right to advocate to APS. (Btw, I don’t actually post on AEM in part because of nasty mean people like her that attack others. So, yes, it’s funny her logic doesn’t apply to herself. Perfectly okay for her to advocate on lunch even though she is t sending her kids - yea, sure. For the record, I think both parents in both cases should be able to advocate. But HER hypocrisy IS funny, in a sad way.

It's not hypocritical. Her kids are still in the system, whereas yours are not. That's a pretty fundamental difference in terms of having skin in the game. So I have no problem at all with her advocating for outdoor lunch, as it may someday benefit her kid(s) at some point and will definitely benefit other kids in the short term.

You really don’t see how silly it is in both scenario? Hey single mom that had to pull 5 yo out of APS so she can actually go to work to keep a roof over her head: shut up! You’re not in the system anymore! What’s that? You can’t afford another yet of private and desperately need to APS to be 5 days a week? Too bad, so sad you pulled your kids and have no skin in the game! This lady is one of the most notorious trolls on AEM, so for that reason alone I wouldn’t sign it. I wouldn’t trust her intentions or sincerity AT ALL. Also I feel very safe with APS plan to eat outdoors when feasible or in the classroom. I’m comfortable with it because it’s what my kids’ school has been doing all year - 5 days a week!

NP: I agree that outdoor lunch is better than indoor lunch. And I agree that that is what APS is already doing and saying. I absolutely do not trust the organizer of this petition. Yes, who the organizer is as a big influence on why I will not sign- b/c I view this as an attempted 'poison pill.' She is absolutely vicious and mean, and kind of crazy. The last thing I want to do is give her a further platform.

Wow. So much nasty. It’s a petition to help our community, but I guess it’s more important to be spiteful.