Is Zoom learning having an effect on our children’s mental health?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids are not having a negative mental health impact due to Zoom. It seems an incredibly irresponsible claim to say the impact is uniform.

Exactly!

I will go one step further and say that IMO the only children having mental health impacts are those kids who aren't receiving enough structure and support from their parents. Either the parents are unstable and modeling that for their kids OR the parents are not able to provide structure and support because they don't know how to provide it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This conversation has been had so many times already. Can we please just let this thread die?

Nope, the suicide poster has to keep posting. Its easier to post and get kids back to school where teachers can handle their kids mental health vs. they do it themselves.

x1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids are not having a negative mental health impact due to Zoom. It seems an incredibly irresponsible claim to say the impact is uniform.

Exactly!

I will go one step further and say that IMO the only children having mental health impacts are those kids who aren't receiving enough structure and support from their parents. Either the parents are unstable and modeling that for their kids OR the parents are not able to provide structure and support because they don't know how to provide it.

That is incredibly judgy of you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is horrible for my children. So unethical that, as a society, we’ve decided kids don’t matter.

Teachers are allowed to care more about their health and well being than your child's education. In fact, if they cared more about your child's education than their own health and safety then there would be a problem with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids are not having a negative mental health impact due to Zoom. It seems an incredibly irresponsible claim to say the impact is uniform.

Exactly!

I will go one step further and say that IMO the only children having mental health impacts are those kids who aren't receiving enough structure and support from their parents. Either the parents are unstable and modeling that for their kids OR the parents are not able to provide structure and support because they don't know how to provide it.

That is incredibly judgy of you.

Oh well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mine are fine with zoom. They are flexible. They understand we are in a major health pandemic and have really good teachers this year which to them is far more important than in person vs. zoom. The relaxed pace between school and activities has been nice. Much less rushing around, able to eat together and much more has been a bonus. We are surprised how well things like music lessons are working via zoom. We have given them comfortable spaces with all the gadgets to make them successful and are available to provide support.

So you keep telling them.

Mine prefer staying at home. But, we all enjoy each others company. It really helps getting alone with your devoted parents in wanting to be home or in person during a pandemic. Maybe you should change what's going on in your home if its not working.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is horrible for my children. So unethical that, as a society, we’ve decided kids don’t matter.

Teachers are allowed to care more about their health and well being than your child's education. In fact, if they cared more about your child's education than their own health and safety then there would be a problem with them.

We expect teachers to value their students as if they are their mothers. People have a visceral reaction to the women who dominate elementary education reminding them that teaching is, in fact, a job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently - the answer is “yes,” and the effect is uniformly negative.

This is according to the APA:

https://www.apa.org/news/apa/2020/10/online-learning-mental-health

Do you think teachers should consider returning to in-person learning?

Teachers don't get a say in DL vs. in person. They do as their employer tells them.

This is not true everywhere. For ex, DC had to match students willing to do IPL with teachers willing to do IPL.

I understand teachers may not have that choice everywhere.

[Anonymous]

Hell, I find zoom to be mentally draining as an adult. I don’t really blame teachers for the problems of zoom (now that they are going in in my area). Online school just sucks for littles. I mean we’ve heard for years that screen time isn’t good for children; it makes sense that online school would impact them negatively. It’s not the teachers; it’s the delivery mechanism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mine are fine with zoom. They are flexible. They understand we are in a major health pandemic and have really good teachers this year which to them is far more important than in person vs. zoom. The relaxed pace between school and activities has been nice. Much less rushing around, able to eat together and much more has been a bonus. We are surprised how well things like music lessons are working via zoom. We have given them comfortable spaces with all the gadgets to make them successful and are available to provide support.

My kids are flexible too and we haven’t brought them up to be special snowflakes who need the world bent to them. However one of my kids is thriving and the other is failing. It’s not a parenting issue here, his needs are just vastly different. I’m glad your kids are doing well, but there are a lot who are not and it’s very very scary to those of us who had good students now failing.

+1

The idea that we should just ‘teach our kids resilience’ and ‘they’ll be fine’ is so blunt and lacking empathy. Just looking at the adults in our house, my DH could stay in the house for a year and not care at all. I, on the other hand, am really struggling with my mental health due to this isolation. Some of this is just the way people are wired.

Thank you for backing me up. It hurts when people are easy to judge things that are not in our control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This conversation has been had so many times already. Can we please just let this thread die?

Nope, the suicide poster has to keep posting. Its easier to post and get kids back to school where teachers can handle their kids mental health vs. they do it themselves.

So wait, now community doesn't matter for mental health? Families should just do everything themselves. Guess we get to tell Hillary Clinton that it no longer takes a village.

Correct. Parents are solely responsible for 100% of their children's mental health, education, socialization, and happiness, in addition to safety, nutrition, shelter, etc. If it seems tough that some of these are often secured by paid employment that gets in the way of spending every moment providing thoughtful, patient, full support and attention to your children, you might be a bad parent. Work it out!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mine are fine with zoom. They are flexible. They understand we are in a major health pandemic and have really good teachers this year which to them is far more important than in person vs. zoom. The relaxed pace between school and activities has been nice. Much less rushing around, able to eat together and much more has been a bonus. We are surprised how well things like music lessons are working via zoom. We have given them comfortable spaces with all the gadgets to make them successful and are available to provide support.

My kids are flexible too and we haven’t brought them up to be special snowflakes who need the world bent to them. However one of my kids is thriving and the other is failing. It’s not a parenting issue here, his needs are just vastly different. I’m glad your kids are doing well, but there are a lot who are not and it’s very very scary to those of us who had good students now failing.

+1

The idea that we should just ‘teach our kids resilience’ and ‘they’ll be fine’ is so blunt and lacking empathy. Just looking at the adults in our house, my DH could stay in the house for a year and not care at all. I, on the other hand, am really struggling with my mental health due to this isolation. Some of this is just the way people are wired.

Thank you for backing me up. It hurts when people are easy to judge things that are not in our control.

My DH has no problem stay in the house for a year, and I think he only has stepped out of the door for about 10 times (for drive thru carry out, buy liquor from liquor store, and walk a few times outside) in a year. I am the one handling with 2 young kids and mentally insane want to keep a balance of letting them have some happy time outdoors vs staying home to protect them from covid. My youngest one is scared of all strangers & new environment, and my oldest one wants to go to all the places. We make a bucket list what to do once there is covid free, and I want to give him some hope to dream for. He is sad that some places that he used to love to go to is out of business already. I don't want them to go to farm because who knows if animals or pets has covid as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mine are fine with zoom. They are flexible. They understand we are in a major health pandemic and have really good teachers this year which to them is far more important than in person vs. zoom. The relaxed pace between school and activities has been nice. Much less rushing around, able to eat together and much more has been a bonus. We are surprised how well things like music lessons are working via zoom. We have given them comfortable spaces with all the gadgets to make them successful and are available to provide support.

My kids are flexible too and we haven’t brought them up to be special snowflakes who need the world bent to them. However one of my kids is thriving and the other is failing. It’s not a parenting issue here, his needs are just vastly different. I’m glad your kids are doing well, but there are a lot who are not and it’s very very scary to those of us who had good students now failing.

+1

The idea that we should just ‘teach our kids resilience’ and ‘they’ll be fine’ is so blunt and lacking empathy. Just looking at the adults in our house, my DH could stay in the house for a year and not care at all. I, on the other hand, am really struggling with my mental health due to this isolation. Some of this is just the way people are wired.

Thank you for backing me up. It hurts when people are easy to judge things that are not in our control.

My DH has no problem stay in the house for a year, and I think he only has stepped out of the door for about 10 times (for drive thru carry out, buy liquor from liquor store, and walk a few times outside) in a year. I am the one handling with 2 young kids and mentally insane want to keep a balance of letting them have some happy time outdoors vs staying home to protect them from covid. My youngest one is scared of all strangers & new environment, and my oldest one wants to go to all the places. We make a bucket list what to do once there is covid free, and I want to give him some hope to dream for. He is sad that some places that he used to love to go to is out of business already. I don't want them to go to farm because who knows if animals or pets has covid as well.

Lol wait did you just say you don’t want to take your kids to a farm because you’re worried that like...the goats might have COVID?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mine are fine with zoom. They are flexible. They understand we are in a major health pandemic and have really good teachers this year which to them is far more important than in person vs. zoom. The relaxed pace between school and activities has been nice. Much less rushing around, able to eat together and much more has been a bonus. We are surprised how well things like music lessons are working via zoom. We have given them comfortable spaces with all the gadgets to make them successful and are available to provide support.

My kids are flexible too and we haven’t brought them up to be special snowflakes who need the world bent to them. However one of my kids is thriving and the other is failing. It’s not a parenting issue here, his needs are just vastly different. I’m glad your kids are doing well, but there are a lot who are not and it’s very very scary to those of us who had good students now failing.

+1

The idea that we should just ‘teach our kids resilience’ and ‘they’ll be fine’ is so blunt and lacking empathy. Just looking at the adults in our house, my DH could stay in the house for a year and not care at all. I, on the other hand, am really struggling with my mental health due to this isolation. Some of this is just the way people are wired.

Thank you for backing me up. It hurts when people are easy to judge things that are not in our control.

My DH has no problem stay in the house for a year, and I think he only has stepped out of the door for about 10 times (for drive thru carry out, buy liquor from liquor store, and walk a few times outside) in a year. I am the one handling with 2 young kids and mentally insane want to keep a balance of letting them have some happy time outdoors vs staying home to protect them from covid. My youngest one is scared of all strangers & new environment, and my oldest one wants to go to all the places. We make a bucket list what to do once there is covid free, and I want to give him some hope to dream for. He is sad that some places that he used to love to go to is out of business already. I don't want them to go to farm because who knows if animals or pets has covid as well.

Lol wait did you just say you don’t want to take your kids to a farm because you’re worried that like...the goats might have COVID?

Not PP. Animals can get COVID-19. But I have and still would take my kids to a farm, happily.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mine are fine with zoom. They are flexible. They understand we are in a major health pandemic and have really good teachers this year which to them is far more important than in person vs. zoom. The relaxed pace between school and activities has been nice. Much less rushing around, able to eat together and much more has been a bonus. We are surprised how well things like music lessons are working via zoom. We have given them comfortable spaces with all the gadgets to make them successful and are available to provide support.

My kids are flexible too and we haven’t brought them up to be special snowflakes who need the world bent to them. However one of my kids is thriving and the other is failing. It’s not a parenting issue here, his needs are just vastly different. I’m glad your kids are doing well, but there are a lot who are not and it’s very very scary to those of us who had good students now failing.

+1

The idea that we should just ‘teach our kids resilience’ and ‘they’ll be fine’ is so blunt and lacking empathy. Just looking at the adults in our house, my DH could stay in the house for a year and not care at all. I, on the other hand, am really struggling with my mental health due to this isolation. Some of this is just the way people are wired.

Thank you for backing me up. It hurts when people are easy to judge things that are not in our control.

My DH has no problem stay in the house for a year, and I think he only has stepped out of the door for about 10 times (for drive thru carry out, buy liquor from liquor store, and walk a few times outside) in a year. I am the one handling with 2 young kids and mentally insane want to keep a balance of letting them have some happy time outdoors vs staying home to protect them from covid. My youngest one is scared of all strangers & new environment, and my oldest one wants to go to all the places. We make a bucket list what to do once there is covid free, and I want to give him some hope to dream for. He is sad that some places that he used to love to go to is out of business already. I don't want them to go to farm because who knows if animals or pets has covid as well.

Lol wait did you just say you don’t want to take your kids to a farm because you’re worried that like...the goats might have COVID?

Not PP. Animals can get COVID-19. But I have and still would take my kids to a farm, happily.

Okay but is there a single case anywhere in the world where some people got Covid from a farm animal? This is just insanity. We are making up scenarios to scare ourselves with