Is Zoom learning having an effect on our children’s mental health?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This conversation has been had so many times already. Can we please just let this thread die?

Nope, the suicide poster has to keep posting. Its easier to post and get kids back to school where teachers can handle their kids mental health vs. they do it themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently - the answer is “yes,” and the effect is uniformly negative.

This is according to the APA:

https://www.apa.org/news/apa/2020/10/online-learning-mental-health

Do you think teachers should consider returning to in-person learning?

Teachers don't get a say in DL vs. in person. They do as their employer tells them.

Teachers unions don’t get a say?

Really? Please continue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is horrible for my children. So unethical that, as a society, we’ve decided kids don’t matter.

Except we have decided they matter which is why we are doing it online because of the health pandemic we are in the middle of.

No. Some parts of country care about children and have in-person school. This area doesn't.

I wouldn't call that caring about children. And, some parts of the country don't have reliable internet or enough computers, which is part of why they remained open. Clearly you are not willing to be part of the solution, which is why we will remain in this crisis for at least another year.

No, the pandemic will be over in 3 months (look at the most recent projection for herd immunity on May 25). You might be in crisis for another year, but everyone else will be back to normal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is horrible for my children. So unethical that, as a society, we’ve decided kids don’t matter.

Yawn. Your little snowflakes will be just fine.

NP. This is really a maddening response. It is not just about our little snowflakes.

Pediatricians and other doctors are concerned.
http://www.virginiapediatrics.org/mt-content/uploads/2021/02/expanation-of-results.pdf
https://news.yahoo.com/op-ed-kids-suffering-science-113007646.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw&tsrc=twtr
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/12/29/22204984/chicago-medical-experts-in-person-learning-optimal-safe-opinion
https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-opinion-covid-cps-ctu-parents-children-20210126-7w2swnftjzhtdjlzhbh2sxpp7u-story.html
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/ucsf-doctors-call-on-schools-to-reopen-in-february/
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/29/884638999/u-s-pediatricians-call-for-in-person-school-this-fall
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-02-03/southern-california-pediatricians-call-schools-reopen
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canadian-doctors-call-for-schools-to-return-to-in-classroom-learning/
https://www.clickondetroit.com/all-about-ann-arbor/2021/02/08/hundreds-of-physicians-psychologists-call-on-ann-arbor-public-schools-to-reopen/#//

UNICEF is concerned.
https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/schools-more-168-million-children-globally-have-been-completely-closed

Public health experts are concerned: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/science-and-society-are-failing-children-in-the-covid-era/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This conversation has been had so many times already. Can we please just let this thread die?

Nope, the suicide poster has to keep posting. Its easier to post and get kids back to school where teachers can handle their kids mental health vs. they do it themselves.

So wait, now community doesn't matter for mental health? Families should just do everything themselves. Guess we get to tell Hillary Clinton that it no longer takes a village.

[Anonymous]

No, my kids are fine with zoom and they are young. It’s probably be better because my eldest has ADHD and has trouble focusing in class. It’s much better for her to not be distracted or causing disruptions in class.

[Anonymous]

Even if DCUM's little snowflakes will be fine, what about non-snowflakes who are missing out on the chance to go to college?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2021/03/04/apply-college-financial-aid-amid-covid-pandemic-stress/6905591002/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This conversation has been had so many times already. Can we please just let this thread die?

+1

Like, a conversation about the effects (good and bad) of Zoom learning might have been interesting (which is why I clicked), but it's inevitably turning into teacher-bashing, or calling kids snowflakes, or saying parents just want childcare, or calling anyone who disagrees with you an idiot who doesn't care if teachers die, or an idiot who doesn't care about children, and it's just so tedious and pointless and boring.

[Anonymous]

mine prefers to stay home DL because they are snacks he can eat, jumping around at time, watch youtube videos at off time, wake up later, school end earlier etc.... Working parents do not have time for him, so he entertains himself with a lot of videos and TV every day. And, we used to put him at before care & after care school.

It is really unhealthy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is horrible for my children. So unethical that, as a society, we’ve decided kids don’t matter.

Except we have decided they matter which is why we are doing it online because of the health pandemic we are in the middle of.

No. Some parts of country care about children and have in-person school. This area doesn't.

I wouldn't call that caring about children. And, some parts of the country don't have reliable internet or enough computers, which is part of why they remained open. Clearly you are not willing to be part of the solution, which is why we will remain in this crisis for at least another year.

Is that your argument for why Florida is open? Not enough computers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mine are fine with zoom. They are flexible. They understand we are in a major health pandemic and have really good teachers this year which to them is far more important than in person vs. zoom. The relaxed pace between school and activities has been nice. Much less rushing around, able to eat together and much more has been a bonus. We are surprised how well things like music lessons are working via zoom. We have given them comfortable spaces with all the gadgets to make them successful and are available to provide support.

My kids are flexible too and we haven’t brought them up to be special snowflakes who need the world bent to them. However one of my kids is thriving and the other is failing. It’s not a parenting issue here, his needs are just vastly different. I’m glad your kids are doing well, but there are a lot who are not and it’s very very scary to those of us who had good students now failing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:mine prefers to stay home DL because they are snacks he can eat, jumping around at time, watch youtube videos at off time, wake up later, school end earlier etc.... Working parents do not have time for him, so he entertains himself with a lot of videos and TV every day. And, we used to put him at before care & after care school.

It is really unhealthy

God bless you for being honest. The things my kids like about distance learning are not necessarily great for them in the long run. (The snacks! My god, the snacks!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mine are fine with zoom. They are flexible. They understand we are in a major health pandemic and have really good teachers this year which to them is far more important than in person vs. zoom. The relaxed pace between school and activities has been nice. Much less rushing around, able to eat together and much more has been a bonus. We are surprised how well things like music lessons are working via zoom. We have given them comfortable spaces with all the gadgets to make them successful and are available to provide support.

My kids are flexible too and we haven’t brought them up to be special snowflakes who need the world bent to them. However one of my kids is thriving and the other is failing. It’s not a parenting issue here, his needs are just vastly different. I’m glad your kids are doing well, but there are a lot who are not and it’s very very scary to those of us who had good students now failing.

+1

The idea that we should just ‘teach our kids resilience’ and ‘they’ll be fine’ is so blunt and lacking empathy. Just looking at the adults in our house, my DH could stay in the house for a year and not care at all. I, on the other hand, am really struggling with my mental health due to this isolation. Some of this is just the way people are wired.

[Anonymous]

I suspected the OP did not read the article, and hopes we won’t do too.

[Anonymous]

mine prefers to stay home DL because they are snacks he can eat, jumping around at time, watch youtube videos at off time, wake up later, school end earlier etc.... Working parents do not have time for him, so he entertains himself with a lot of videos and TV every day. And, we used to put him at before care & after care school.

It is really unhealthy

God bless you for being honest. The things my kids like about distance learning are not necessarily great for them in the long run. (The snacks! My god, the snacks!)

Yes, NP, mine are exactly the same way, down to the jumping, snacks and way too many "funny animals" videos on Youtube. (1st and 3rd.) Sure, in a manner of speaking, they're "thriving." But they haven't learned sh#t. And their SEL skills have bottomed out. And that's with a much-loved college-age babysitter keeping them on task, parents making them turn in all class/homework, AND a (1x week) tutor. So sure, they "prefer" it, but is it hardly educational, and 90% of what they've learned is not from MCPS, but from reading such esteemed classics as Bad Kitty, Dog Man and Diary of a Wimpy Kid (/s) and Dad drilling them on multiplication tables at dinner.

We'll be going back March 15.