Loudoun health director - says impossible to know if we will need 6' of distance this fall

[Anonymous]

Omg *immunity

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Anonymous wrote:Totally guessing here but what if cdc says if teachers are vaccinated, masks are worn and percent positivity is <5% in the community the six foot social distancing recommendation isn’t needed. I think with herd immunity growing over the summer and cases staying lower we will be ok.

Too optimistic? I’m no Fauci.

I just don't think we're going to have her immunity by the summer. We're at the beginning of February and less than 10% of the population has been vaccinated. That's quite a while to 80%, especially since it's taking us about 6 weeks to get to 10%. 6 weeks from now will be at spring break, and maybe 20-25% of the population will be vaccinated?

Plenty of people are saying that we won’t get to herd immunity. It’ll be like the cold coronaviruses or the flu. We need to find a new end game. How do you live a full human life while reducing deaths and severe illnesses.

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Anonymous wrote:The CDC is coming out with new guidance for schools this week. I wondered if they would update their distancing recommendations to allow schools to plan to be open in the fall full time. But even at say 3 feet of distance, is they enough? Will they say masks are enough?? By the fall, maybe?

The community spread will continue to decrease. Even in two months things will look different. I’m hopeful. But preparing for worse case scenario.

New variants are more contagious and current vaccines may not protect against them. So there is that.

I am worried about this. Parts of the country who are living as normal may very well be setting the stage for new variants. I wish someone could make them understand the importance of preventing that scenario. But I'm sure they'll just continue what they're doing and those of us who live in more cautious areas will just continue paying the price.

Exactly.

They are. Soon we will talk about the "Florida variant", the "Texas variant" etc.

OMG- there is so much fear here.. the media is so full on this as well! I am not saying COVID is not deadly- in particular for the older ages but so is the flu (for the younger ages- we know the older ages should be vaccined- kept apart since they are so vulnerable until they are vaccinated). As for the rest- do you see the kids in other states going 5 days a week and in some states adults at restaurants carefree? Do you see a need for exra body bags due to this??? NO. This area is so messed up- and people are so nasty about anything. yes, I wear a mask, wash my hands, disinfect etc but by now we know a lot more and see other places that don't have these restrictions. (and no- don't buy that they fudge numbers- that is only trying to add to the fear - and MANY businesses and the government have a lot to gain with a compliant scared population!- look at how rich the rich have become and how this has decimated lower income, small businesses etc. Keeping our schools shut is creating such a huge gap between the haves (like Governor Newsom in CA who is a disgrace by not allowing schools to open while his kids go to private) and the have nots. If we were in the 6 figures, we would not be in public school anymore. We are one of the unfortunate saps that got hit by covid and were unemployed for 7 months.

You seem to have missed the point that letting the virus run rampant — even among people for whom it isn’t deadly — creates new variants. Those variants make the vaccines less effective. Which means those elderly people who got vaccinated could still die. They’re not all super old BTW — plenty of people on their 50s and 60s who thought they had plenty of years left. Letting new variants pop up is a really bad idea if we ever want to be done with this.

There’s a big difference between hiding in the basement and living life like it’s 2019 doing things like going to crowded indoor cheer competitions and basketball tournaments (I’ve seen both of those on social media on the past week). Living like it’s 2019 during a global pandemic is dumb, dumb, dumb and affects everyone.

But I doubt you’ll listen to any of this. You seem invested in your little theory that this is about controlling the population. Biology was clearly not your strong suit in school. Not sure any subject was...

[Anonymous]

Faquier is transitioning from hybrid to 4 days in-person:
https://wtop.com/virginia/2021/02/fauquier-students-to-return-to-classrooms-four-days-per-week/

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Anonymous wrote:Wondering how these districts are going to do 6’ spacing without an waiver of the 990 hours/180 days requirement. Northampton specifically said to superintendents and school boards that it will not be waived next school year.

If they work 5 days a week then there'll be no problem reaching the 180 goal. But it's 180 days of instruction. It doesn't specify whether it's in person, hybrid, concurrent etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Faquier is transitioning from hybrid to 4 days in-person:
https://wtop.com/virginia/2021/02/fauquier-students-to-return-to-classrooms-four-days-per-week/

10,000 students vs 190,000. Sigh. FCPS just too big!

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Anonymous wrote:Faquier is transitioning from hybrid to 4 days in-person:
https://wtop.com/virginia/2021/02/fauquier-students-to-return-to-classrooms-four-days-per-week/

10,000 students vs 190,000. Sigh. FCPS just too big!

You do the exact same thing, but scale it up. FCPS also has 20 times the administrators to think about logistics.

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Anonymous wrote:Faquier is transitioning from hybrid to 4 days in-person:
https://wtop.com/virginia/2021/02/fauquier-students-to-return-to-classrooms-four-days-per-week/

10,000 students vs 190,000. Sigh. FCPS just too big!

You do the exact same thing, but scale it up. FCPS also has 20 times the administrators to think about logistics.

3’ spacing and masks. The only issue they flag in the article is bus driver availability.

Even if it won’t work for all grades due to busing, K-2 at least. All NOVA districts could do it.

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Anonymous wrote: do you see the kids in other states going 5 days a week and in some states adults at restaurants carefree? Do you see a need for exra body bags due to this??? NO.

Can you name a state that has kids in 5 days a week, and restaurants fully open, that hasn't had a huge spike? Look at death rates since September in Florida, for example.

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Anonymous wrote: do you see the kids in other states going 5 days a week and in some states adults at restaurants carefree? Do you see a need for exra body bags due to this??? NO.

Can you name a state that has kids in 5 days a week, and restaurants fully open, that hasn't had a huge spike? Look at death rates since September in Florida, for example.

Iowa is significantly less restrictive than Illinois, yet the spikes in both states have been very similar.

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Anonymous wrote: do you see the kids in other states going 5 days a week and in some states adults at restaurants carefree? Do you see a need for exra body bags due to this??? NO.

Can you name a state that has kids in 5 days a week, and restaurants fully open, that hasn't had a huge spike? Look at death rates since September in Florida, for example.

Iowa is significantly less restrictive than Illinois, yet the spikes in both states have been very similar.

What's the population density like in IA compared to IL? I feel like people keep comparing lower density states with fewer restrictions to higher density states with more restrictions, and saying "see the restrictions don't work". That is failing to account for what cases would be like in those high density areas with no restrictions imposed. Which we can predict based on modeling.

It's not going to feel fair. People who live in higher density areas are going to have to live with more restrictions while seeing low density areas with fewer restrictions not have as many cases. Look at states like NJ, NY, CT, MA compared to Southern states. The Northeast has higher population density so it's going to do worse with this no matter what. It isn't a reason to throw our hands up and let thousands more people die than is necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m optimistically checking this website a ton and every day the pace to impunity increases a bit.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-19-vaccine-doses.html

Very interesting, thanks!

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Anonymous wrote: do you see the kids in other states going 5 days a week and in some states adults at restaurants carefree? Do you see a need for exra body bags due to this??? NO.

Can you name a state that has kids in 5 days a week, and restaurants fully open, that hasn't had a huge spike? Look at death rates since September in Florida, for example.

Iowa is significantly less restrictive than Illinois, yet the spikes in both states have been very similar.

When you account for population, Iowa’s death rate has been about double, both at their spike and now. Despite that population density means Illinois should have a higher rate of other things were equal.

Could you try again?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The CDC is coming out with new guidance for schools this week. I wondered if they would update their distancing recommendations to allow schools to plan to be open in the fall full time. But even at say 3 feet of distance, is they enough? Will they say masks are enough?? By the fall, maybe?

The community spread will continue to decrease. Even in two months things will look different. I’m hopeful. But preparing for worse case scenario.

New variants are more contagious and current vaccines may not protect against them. So there is that.

I am worried about this. Parts of the country who are living as normal may very well be setting the stage for new variants. I wish someone could make them understand the importance of preventing that scenario. But I'm sure they'll just continue what they're doing and those of us who live in more cautious areas will just continue paying the price.

Exactly.

They are. Soon we will talk about the "Florida variant", the "Texas variant" etc.

OMG- there is so much fear here.. the media is so full on this as well! I am not saying COVID is not deadly- in particular for the older ages but so is the flu (for the younger ages- we know the older ages should be vaccined- kept apart since they are so vulnerable until they are vaccinated). As for the rest- do you see the kids in other states going 5 days a week and in some states adults at restaurants carefree? Do you see a need for exra body bags due to this??? NO. This area is so messed up- and people are so nasty about anything. yes, I wear a mask, wash my hands, disinfect etc but by now we know a lot more and see other places that don't have these restrictions. (and no- don't buy that they fudge numbers- that is only trying to add to the fear - and MANY businesses and the government have a lot to gain with a compliant scared population!- look at how rich the rich have become and how this has decimated lower income, small businesses etc. Keeping our schools shut is creating such a huge gap between the haves (like Governor Newsom in CA who is a disgrace by not allowing schools to open while his kids go to private) and the have nots. If we were in the 6 figures, we would not be in public school anymore. We are one of the unfortunate saps that got hit by covid and were unemployed for 7 months.

Actually, YES. Texas had to order more body bags and mortuary trucks last summer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/07/17/texas-officials-order-extra-body-bags-mortuary-trucks-as-state-braces-for-rising-coronavirus-deaths.html

[Anonymous]

Wow, how is Alaska getting so many people vaccinated so fast?