Nearly Half of DC's Vaccine Doses Have Gone to Non-Residents

[Anonymous]

Eh, a coworker who lives in DC got vaccinated in MD. Works both ways.

[Anonymous]

Agreed it works both ways. My brother teaches in md and lives in va. He was applying for shots in both states and went with the one that could vaccinate him sooner. I live in dc and would be happy to wait longer for a shot if it means that the workers in the grocery store, doctor's offices, and other places I need to go are vaccinated. That probably does more to keep me healthy than getting the shot myself and is certainly better from a dc-wide perspective.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eh, a coworker who lives in DC got vaccinated in MD. Works both ways.

Not in the same proportions FAR more people come in to DC than leave. Wait until they start inoculating out of state Uber drivers and "essential" Federal workers (all on their phase list before DC residents). :ro 16 and above who don't fall into "any of the above" categories
No one is saying these folks should not be vaccinated, but they can be vaccinated in their own state or DC has the option to ask for sufficient dose to cover them. Feel free to donate your vaccine though--maybe they should set up a mechanism for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eh, a coworker who lives in DC got vaccinated in MD. Works both ways.

Not in the same proportions FAR more people come in to DC than leave. Wait until they start inoculating out of state Uber drivers and "essential" Federal workers (all on their phase list before DC residents). :ro 16 and above who don't fall into "any of the above" categories
No one is saying these folks should not be vaccinated, but they can be vaccinated in their own state or DC has the option to ask for sufficient dose to cover them. Feel free to donate your vaccine though--maybe they should set up a mechanism for that.

Federal workers are NOT vaccinated using state allocations.

I have no problem with teachers/grocery store workers/healthcare workers being vaccinated where they work. That makes sense from a logistical standpoint and from "societal impact" for DC residents (who also might be DC students, shoppers, patients).

There is no indication that DC is going to start vaccinating the general population of other states before its own residents.

I think you are being a little bit Chicken Little about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eh, a coworker who lives in DC got vaccinated in MD. Works both ways.

Not in the same proportions FAR more people come in to DC than leave. Wait until they start inoculating out of state Uber drivers and "essential" Federal workers (all on their phase list before DC residents). :ro 16 and above who don't fall into "any of the above" categories
No one is saying these folks should not be vaccinated, but they can be vaccinated in their own state or DC has the option to ask for sufficient dose to cover them. Feel free to donate your vaccine though--maybe they should set up a mechanism for that.

Federal workers are NOT vaccinated using state allocations.

I have no problem with teachers/grocery store workers/healthcare workers being vaccinated where they work. That makes sense from a logistical standpoint and from "societal impact" for DC residents (who also might be DC students, shoppers, patients).

There is no indication that DC is going to start vaccinating the general population of other states before its own residents.

I think you are being a little bit Chicken Little about this.

The link to the phased DC COVID VAX PLAN is in this thread and it lists essential federal workers. It also list IT, member of the media, Uber BEFORE the remaining residents. Please read before you make sweeping statements about what you think DCs intention is..

[Anonymous]

https://coronavirus.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/...-Program-Phases-with-Tiers.pdf

Here it is. It's a chart, not a laborious document. It lays out pretty clearly what DCs "plan" is to vaccinate out of staters (who fit in every category of "worker" listed). It does not explain where the vaccine is coming from.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, that got abbreviated. Look under "Preservation of Societal Functioning". Its a pretty robust list of who DC plans to offer the vaccine to.

https://coronavirus.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/coronavirus/page_content/attachments/Vaccination-Program-Phases-with-Tiers.pdf

[Anonymous]

Okay, they talked about this today in the presser. DC is committed to vaccinating employees; reciprocal agreement with MD and VA, all states need more vaccine. A reporter asked about it, and apparently council is interested, too.

[Anonymous]

I care that my kid's DCPS teacher has been vaccinated, and I don't care that she lives in MD.

[Anonymous]

I know a number of Feds that had to return to work. When they became eligible, they looked for appointments in DC during the work day and appointments evenings and weekends in the suburbs. The ones that got vaccinated in DC had work day appointments that were granted and none that I know found any appointments available during evenings/weekends in MD/VA.

The problem is where and when the appointments are. These workers who commute in to the city are not going to be able to take a weekday mid-day appointment in the suburbs while working. Some are not given any time to get vaccinated and have to take leave or flex their hours to make up the time. The ones that are given time are given 2 hours for a vaccination. You can't expect to commute back out to the suburbs, wait for an appointment, get vaccinated and commute back to the city in 2 hours. So, they look for and get a weekday appointment in DC where they can go and get back to work in 2 hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I care that my kid's DCPS teacher has been vaccinated, and I don't care that she lives in MD.

Right. I am a child care worker (our center serves DC residents exclusively). I live in MD. Would you prefer I get my vaccination ASAP or wait until I can get in in my state? FYI, when slots were released to child care workers today, I did not claim one but instead helped some of my 65+ coworkers secure a slot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know a number of Feds that had to return to work. When they became eligible, they looked for appointments in DC during the work day and appointments evenings and weekends in the suburbs. The ones that got vaccinated in DC had work day appointments that were granted and none that I know found any appointments available during evenings/weekends in MD/VA.

The problem is where and when the appointments are. These workers who commute in to the city are not going to be able to take a weekday mid-day appointment in the suburbs while working. Some are not given any time to get vaccinated and have to take leave or flex their hours to make up the time. The ones that are given time are given 2 hours for a vaccination. You can't expect to commute back out to the suburbs, wait for an appointment, get vaccinated and commute back to the city in 2 hours. So, they look for and get a weekday appointment in DC where they can go and get back to work in 2 hours.

We had our essential employee vaccinations on site in VA. I am a DC resident working at a federal agency in VA. 2 hours of leave is standard for all gov't agencies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the hospitals, nursing homes and feds were first to vaccinate essential workers. And a lot of the people who work in DC in those roles don’t live in DC. This is not particularly surprising given how we are going about it.

+1

We still are at the point where most people who have received vaccines are HCWs and getting vaccinated through their jobs, not tied to where they live.

As we move beyond, these numbers will go down. I see no reason to be upset by these numbers. In fact, because they originally were going to give out the vaccine based on population, and we KNEW this was going to happen as DC hospitals vaccinated their staff, didn't VA and MD kick in a bunch of their vaccines to make up for it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the hospitals, nursing homes and feds were first to vaccinate essential workers. And a lot of the people who work in DC in those roles don’t live in DC. This is not particularly surprising given how we are going about it.

+1

We still are at the point where most people who have received vaccines are HCWs and getting vaccinated through their jobs, not tied to where they live.

As we move beyond, these numbers will go down. I see no reason to be upset by these numbers. In fact, because they originally were going to give out the vaccine based on population, and we KNEW this was going to happen as DC hospitals vaccinated their staff, didn't VA and MD kick in a bunch of their vaccines to make up for it?

Wow. You all are missing the ENTIRE point of the thread. It's not about not vaccinating daycare and grocery workers. Its that DC requested enough vaccine for ONLY its population, NO EXTRA. DC has given halfthis supply to out of staters. Capito?
Secure more vaccine or cease the giveaway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay, they talked about this today in the presser. DC is committed to vaccinating employees; reciprocal agreement with MD and VA, all states need more vaccine. A reporter asked about it, and apparently council is interested, too.

PP (or anyone) can you share more about press conference and what they said DC is doing to balance out vaccine supply with MD and VA?

If this issue isn't resolved, I'd like to start hitting up my council member and the mayors office to keep pushing on the imbalance.

And to be clear for those confused: The issue isn't non-residents getting the vaccine here. It's great that they can. It's that DC isn't getting enough SUPPLY to make up the imbalance. We're only getting enough vaccine for DC residents and we should be getting more to cover non-residents we are and should be vaccinating.