Nearly Half of DC's Vaccine Doses Have Gone to Non-Residents

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the hospitals, nursing homes and feds were first to vaccinate essential workers. And a lot of the people who work in DC in those roles don’t live in DC. This is not particularly surprising given how we are going about it.

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We still are at the point where most people who have received vaccines are HCWs and getting vaccinated through their jobs, not tied to where they live.

As we move beyond, these numbers will go down. I see no reason to be upset by these numbers. In fact, because they originally were going to give out the vaccine based on population, and we KNEW this was going to happen as DC hospitals vaccinated their staff, didn't VA and MD kick in a bunch of their vaccines to make up for it?

Wow. You all are missing the ENTIRE point of the thread. It's not about not vaccinating daycare and grocery workers. Its that DC requested enough vaccine for ONLY its population, NO EXTRA. DC has given halfthis supply to out of staters. Capito?
Secure more vaccine or cease the giveaway.

It's not a question of D.C. failing to request enough doses because they only asked for its population; it's that the entire distribution system only allocates the doses based on population. You think D.C. wouldn't have requested more doses than we got if possible?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eh, a coworker who lives in DC got vaccinated in MD. Works both ways.

Not in the same proportions FAR more people come in to DC than leave. Wait until they start inoculating out of state Uber drivers and "essential" Federal workers (all on their phase list before DC residents). :ro 16 and above who don't fall into "any of the above" categories
No one is saying these folks should not be vaccinated, but they can be vaccinated in their own state or DC has the option to ask for sufficient dose to cover them. Feel free to donate your vaccine though--maybe they should set up a mechanism for that.

Federal workers are NOT vaccinated using state allocations.

I have no problem with teachers/grocery store workers/healthcare workers being vaccinated where they work. That makes sense from a logistical standpoint and from "societal impact" for DC residents (who also might be DC students, shoppers, patients).

There is no indication that DC is going to start vaccinating the general population of other states before its own residents.

I think you are being a little bit Chicken Little about this.

The link to the phased DC COVID VAX PLAN is in this thread and it lists essential federal workers. It also list IT, member of the media, Uber BEFORE the remaining residents. Please read before you make sweeping statements about what you think DCs intention is..

There's no way they'll actually follow that whole priority list and vaccinate members of the media ahead of any normal people, though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Okay, they talked about this today in the presser. DC is committed to vaccinating employees; reciprocal agreement with MD and VA, all states need more vaccine. A reporter asked about it, and apparently council is interested, too.

PP (or anyone) can you share more about press conference and what they said DC is doing to balance out vaccine supply with MD and VA?

If this issue isn't resolved, I'd like to start hitting up my council member and the mayors office to keep pushing on the imbalance.

And to be clear for those confused: The issue isn't non-residents getting the vaccine here. It's great that they can. It's that DC isn't getting enough SUPPLY to make up the imbalance. We're only getting enough vaccine for DC residents and we should be getting more to cover non-residents we are and should be vaccinating.

DC can do what it likes with its supply, and they have decided to vaccinate essential employees, no matter where they live. I don't know why this is hard for you to understand. I am a DC resident and I support this strategy. Everyone is aware that this has created an imbalance.

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Guys. Chill. MD and VA both gave DC thousands of their doses to help cover the DC workers who live in MD and VA.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys. Chill. MD and VA both gave DC thousands of their doses to help cover the DC workers who live in MD and VA.

The NBC link at the beginning of this thread states that what DC has given out has far outpaced what has "come in". There is also no formal agreement in place between members of DMV or DC and Federal Govt to account for this giveaway. And yes, DC has pretty much admitted they did not ask for enough dosage for this system off the bat.
I am going to get vaccinated through work long before DCs general population ever will due to this system (that's where I otherwise would be). I guess if you don't have a problem getting vaccinated in '22 or '23 it's cool, but you are speaking for your neighbors--many residents of color who have been disproportionately affected by this virus.

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They did. They asked for enough vax for the whole healthcare pop since 75 percent of workers are out of state. It’s in the initial vaccine plan.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nbcwashington.com/investigations/nearly-half-of-dcs-vaccine-doses-have-gone-to-non-residents/2554842/

Of the 51,421 doses of vaccine administered in the District as of Jan. 23, data shows 47 percent went to workers who don't live in D.C. That’s far higher than in Virginia, where at least 85 percent of the commonwealth’s administered doses have gone to Virginians, and in Maryland, where at least 93 percent of doses have gone to its residents, according to an I-Team review of vaccine data mapped by in-state recipients.

The disparity is not that surprising. Most of VA and MD are not part of the deeply interdependent DC metro area. All of DC is.

If DC is doing this, then DC should receive a MUCH higher allocation of vaccine relative to population, as well as infrastructure support for administering it. My read is we have a certain vaccine allocation based on DC population and 1/2 has gone to non-residents. That means, residents of DC are receiving 1/2 the vaccine allocation that residents elsewhere would expect, UNLESS the total vaccine delivered to DC is higher or an EQUAL amount of DC "workers" in other states are receiving their vaccines in other states. This is not going to stop with health care workers and teachers. There are "workers" in every category going forward, from grocery clerks to sanitation to IT. This is not about how deserving they are for vaccine; it is about how much is being allocated where. I want to see the accounting.

This is happening in Montgomery County as well. Many of the healthcare workers and teachers do not live here and it was not accounted for when they allocated vaccine doses.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nbcwashington.com/investigations/nearly-half-of-dcs-vaccine-doses-have-gone-to-non-residents/2554842/

Of the 51,421 doses of vaccine administered in the District as of Jan. 23, data shows 47 percent went to workers who don't live in D.C. That’s far higher than in Virginia, where at least 85 percent of the commonwealth’s administered doses have gone to Virginians, and in Maryland, where at least 93 percent of doses have gone to its residents, according to an I-Team review of vaccine data mapped by in-state recipients.

The disparity is not that surprising. Most of VA and MD are not part of the deeply interdependent DC metro area. All of DC is.

If DC is doing this, then DC should receive a MUCH higher allocation of vaccine relative to population, as well as infrastructure support for administering it. My read is we have a certain vaccine allocation based on DC population and 1/2 has gone to non-residents. That means, residents of DC are receiving 1/2 the vaccine allocation that residents elsewhere would expect, UNLESS the total vaccine delivered to DC is higher or an EQUAL amount of DC "workers" in other states are receiving their vaccines in other states. This is not going to stop with health care workers and teachers. There are "workers" in every category going forward, from grocery clerks to sanitation to IT. This is not about how deserving they are for vaccine; it is about how much is being allocated where. I want to see the accounting.

This is happening in Montgomery County as well. Many of the healthcare workers and teachers do not live here and it was not accounted for when they allocated vaccine doses.

It's just a mess. It's not about denying workers vaccine, but it is about making sure residents (who include workers) get vaccine. It is like peering through the wrong end of a telescope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They did. They asked for enough vax for the whole healthcare pop since 75 percent of workers are out of state. It’s in the initial vaccine plan.

They are carrying on vaccinating out of staters with insufficient supply requested Half of the vaccine that should "cover" DC residents is flowing outwards. Do you deny the NBC report (page 1 of thread)?

[Anonymous]

Nesbitt acknowledges in Today's Metro section that the "out of state worker" vaccine plan is not working well for DC, and DC, MD, + VA are requesting that the Federal Government vaccinate federal workers, Metro and Postal from Federal Vaccine stock. Amazing the amount of people trying to apologize for/defend the original bad plan, rather than advocating for a better one. Glad to see Nesbitt working formally towards this. "Hope" is NOT a plan. Nor is giving half of DCs vaccine allotment away to out of staters while the vaccination of the elderly drags on and on (new goal: end of Feb for round 1).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/coronavirus-vaccine-dc-maryland-virginia/2021/02/10/b33deb28-6b9d-11eb-9ead-673168d5b874_story.html

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Every single member of the DC Council has been vaccinated even though they're all working remote.

They give this lame excuse that they're essential but whatever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every single member of the DC Council has been vaccinated even though they're all working remote.

They give this lame excuse that they're essential but whatever.

Who cares? They are continuity of government.

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Anonymous wrote:Every single member of the DC Council has been vaccinated even though they're all working remote.

They give this lame excuse that they're essential but whatever.

Who cares? They are continuity of government.

The continuity of government group was about 3,000 persons wasn't it? Not just the Council. Ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Every single member of the DC Council has been vaccinated even though they're all working remote.

They give this lame excuse that they're essential but whatever.

Who cares? They are continuity of government.

The continuity of government group was about 3,000 persons wasn't it? Not just the Council. Ridiculous.

Here it is. Phase 1B. They are treating Covid like a nuclear blast. Highly unlikely all these people work in person, or would catch the virus at once, and disrupt continuity of government.

No wonder granny can't get a vaccine!

DC Government Critical Infrastructure Personnel 3,800

https://coronavirus.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/coronavirus/page_content/attachments/DC_COVID-19%20Vaccination%20Plan%2011.27.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every single member of the DC Council has been vaccinated even though they're all working remote.

They give this lame excuse that they're essential but whatever.

Who cares? They are continuity of government.

The continuity of government group was about 3,000 persons wasn't it? Not just the Council. Ridiculous.

Here it is. Phase 1B. They are treating Covid like a nuclear blast. Highly unlikely all these people work in person, or would catch the virus at once, and disrupt continuity of government.

No wonder granny can't get a vaccine!

DC Government Critical Infrastructure Personnel 3,800

https://coronavirus.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/coronavirus/page_content/attachments/DC_COVID-19%20Vaccination%20Plan%2011.27.pdf

3,800 out of 310,000 people in Phase 1B. The critical government numbers are pretty small. And yeah, every garbage man in DC sure as hell is "critical!"