All in cost per club

[Anonymous]

For ECNL the younger ages (u13 and U14) are around 3K. If you fly to a showcase you can spend 1K especially if the parent goes too. Flight and 3-4 nights in a hotel plus food as well as cost of the showcase and paying expenses for the coach(es). I've spent even more than 1K when going to CA. Some of the older teams will do 3 of these a year. So yes you can spend 7K on soccer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is bryc girls ecnl starting at U13 really 10k all in for the year?

I think it is more like 8K. There is a lot of $100 here $200 there stuff and it adds up. Ask for a full accounting. They are lying if they say it is only $3k

[Anonymous]

Without the expected return on investment of a possible scholarship, can someone explain to me the value of paying 10k for an ECNL/DA experience versus the 2-3k experience at a club that participates in local league, tournaments, and showcases. I want to understand the worth in the 7k difference to play the game. Is it the coaching? Is every team you play that much better? Does it matter that the other team is that much better?

[Anonymous]

Just preparing you for the next level of pay to play which cost $15k and up. Its called college soccer. That is where the pyramid scheme collapses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Without the expected return on investment of a possible scholarship, can someone explain to me the value of paying 10k for an ECNL/DA experience versus the 2-3k experience at a club that participates in local league, tournaments, and showcases. I want to understand the worth in the 7k difference to play the game. Is it the coaching? Is every team you play that much better? Does it matter that the other team is that much better?

For most players/families, it's not an investment that generates a significant return. You can spend 40-50k playing 4-5 years in ECNL. There are plenty of players that get that back via college scholarships, but you would do better putting that money into the market. The better your player is, the better your (meager) return.

It is wiser to look at it like an investment that enables the development of a college level player and hopefully, a better person. Generally, players benefit from playing at the higher game speed that ECNL/GA provides, and without it, it can be difficult to get to the college level. Secondarily, there is a college scouting exposure aspect to playing at ECNL/GA that is hard to duplicate. And finally, in some cases, being an athlete can get you into a school that you otherwise could not qualify for academically.

The average level of play at ECNL/GA is considerably higher than say EDP, or CCL, although there are top EDP teams that are competitive with ECNL/GA bottom dwellers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McLean ECNL older age. I would say it varies from 5K-7K depending on the number of showcases and if you fly along with the kid. 5K would include regular season, hotels, travel a few tournaments and one showcase. Each additional showcase can add another $1000ish.

As a parent of a player that has the opportunity to play at that level, I'm really wondering if there is an actual return on that investment and if it's worth the higher cost. For players that don't get scholarship or even offer to play in college, is it worth it?

Of course it's not worth it. I would suggest that it's also not true. Either that or BRYC is way out of whack with other ECNL club costs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without the expected return on investment of a possible scholarship, can someone explain to me the value of paying 10k for an ECNL/DA experience versus the 2-3k experience at a club that participates in local league, tournaments, and showcases. I want to understand the worth in the 7k difference to play the game. Is it the coaching? Is every team you play that much better? Does it matter that the other team is that much better?

For most players/families, it's not an investment that generates a significant return. You can spend 40-50k playing 4-5 years in ECNL. There are plenty of players that get that back via college scholarships, but you would do better putting that money into the market. The better your player is, the better your (meager) return.

It is wiser to look at it like an investment that enables the development of a college level player and hopefully, a better person. Generally, players benefit from playing at the higher game speed that ECNL/GA provides, and without it, it can be difficult to get to the college level. Secondarily, there is a college scouting exposure aspect to playing at ECNL/GA that is hard to duplicate. And finally, in some cases, being an athlete can get you into a school that you otherwise could not qualify for academically.

The average level of play at ECNL/GA is considerably higher than say EDP, or CCL, although there are top EDP teams that are competitive with ECNL/GA bottom dwellers.

Excluding the potential college aspect. Is the 7k per season worth it in terms of the "better" competition. I have seen people write that the coaching is not all that exceptional. I think the "better person", time management, responsibilities, can still be achieved regardless of ECNL/MLS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without the expected return on investment of a possible scholarship, can someone explain to me the value of paying 10k for an ECNL/DA experience versus the 2-3k experience at a club that participates in local league, tournaments, and showcases. I want to understand the worth in the 7k difference to play the game. Is it the coaching? Is every team you play that much better? Does it matter that the other team is that much better?

For most players/families, it's not an investment that generates a significant return. You can spend 40-50k playing 4-5 years in ECNL. There are plenty of players that get that back via college scholarships, but you would do better putting that money into the market. The better your player is, the better your (meager) return.

It is wiser to look at it like an investment that enables the development of a college level player and hopefully, a better person. Generally, players benefit from playing at the higher game speed that ECNL/GA provides, and without it, it can be difficult to get to the college level. Secondarily, there is a college scouting exposure aspect to playing at ECNL/GA that is hard to duplicate. And finally, in some cases, being an athlete can get you into a school that you otherwise could not qualify for academically.

The average level of play at ECNL/GA is considerably higher than say EDP, or CCL, although there are top EDP teams that are competitive with ECNL/GA bottom dwellers.

Excluding the potential college aspect. Is the 7k per season worth it in terms of the "better" competition. I have seen people write that the coaching is not all that exceptional. I think the "better person", time management, responsibilities, can still be achieved regardless of ECNL/MLS.

If your main goal is the latter part (personal growth, fitness, time management, team player, etc), I would agree you can get that at any travel level. The expense of the higher levels is only worth it is your player loves the sport, has the competitive desire, and/or wants to play in college. In our experience, the coaching at the ECNL level is generally much better than in regular travel. The more competitive environment can bring out the teeth a bit, so I get it that people have bad experiences with some coaches.

[Anonymous]

in reading this thread- all in for BRYC u9-12 is 2500. They play locally and not always in a league and practice 3 days a week. I do not believe there is only a slight increase to play ECNL- lots of travel, tournaments and showcases, 4 days a week practices, etc...I think the higher number is accurate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without the expected return on investment of a possible scholarship, can someone explain to me the value of paying 10k for an ECNL/DA experience versus the 2-3k experience at a club that participates in local league, tournaments, and showcases. I want to understand the worth in the 7k difference to play the game. Is it the coaching? Is every team you play that much better? Does it matter that the other team is that much better?

For most players/families, it's not an investment that generates a significant return. You can spend 40-50k playing 4-5 years in ECNL. There are plenty of players that get that back via college scholarships, but you would do better putting that money into the market. The better your player is, the better your (meager) return.

It is wiser to look at it like an investment that enables the development of a college level player and hopefully, a better person. Generally, players benefit from playing at the higher game speed that ECNL/GA provides, and without it, it can be difficult to get to the college level. Secondarily, there is a college scouting exposure aspect to playing at ECNL/GA that is hard to duplicate. And finally, in some cases, being an athlete can get you into a school that you otherwise could not qualify for academically.

The average level of play at ECNL/GA is considerably higher than say EDP, or CCL, although there are top EDP teams that are competitive with ECNL/GA bottom dwellers.

Excluding the potential college aspect. Is the 7k per season worth it in terms of the "better" competition. I have seen people write that the coaching is not all that exceptional. I think the "better person", time management, responsibilities, can still be achieved regardless of ECNL/MLS.

If your main goal is the latter part (personal growth, fitness, time management, team player, etc), I would agree you can get that at any travel level. The expense of the higher levels is only worth it is your player loves the sport, has the competitive desire, and/or wants to play in college. In our experience, the coaching at the ECNL level is generally much better than in regular travel. The more competitive environment can bring out the teeth a bit, so I get it that people have bad experiences with some coaches.

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is bryc girls ecnl starting at U13 really 10k all in for the year?

No. It’s around $3k per year all in.

We paid $2150 for club dues and last year about $2K in travel fees and expenses.

No way it's $8-10K. Pre-COVID, parents weren't required (or even encouraged) to travel to out of state events.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is bryc girls ecnl starting at U13 really 10k all in for the year?

No. It’s around $3k per year all in.

We paid $2150 for club dues and last year about $2K in travel fees and expenses.

No way it's $8-10K. Pre-COVID, parents weren't required (or even encouraged) to travel to out of state events.

So the 12 year old girls were expected to travel on their own?

[Anonymous]

U13 and U14 require parents to travel with their players at our club. Once you hit U15 they start to discourage it. However many parents do still travel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is bryc girls ecnl starting at U13 really 10k all in for the year?

No. It’s around $3k per year all in.

We paid $2150 for club dues and last year about $2K in travel fees and expenses.

No way it's $8-10K. Pre-COVID, parents weren't required (or even encouraged) to travel to out of state events.

So the 12 year old girls were expected to travel on their own?

At BRYC, they travel w their team and a few parent chaperones on chartered buses. Food and hotel are organized by the club.

[Anonymous]

So tell us, is ecnl coaching really that much better than " regular" travel coaching or the next level down