Did anyone give up bread?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:whyyyyy? Calories not carbs matters.

Not true. Maybe before 40, but after 40 it makes a real difference.

+1. The kind of calories matter. Bread calories are different than say sweet potato hash calories. If you have tried everything to get rid of having a belly after having kids but can't, most likely it's related to gluten and sugar.

I know that there isn't a huge consensus on this, but I don't think this is true. The difference is that things like sweet potato hash fill you up more than bread does, so if you eat according to how full you are, you will eat more calories if you eat bread.

There is actually a consensus on this. The kind of calories don’t matter. Eliminating gluten and sugar doesn’t get rid of a fat. Eliminating the calories from bread and sugar gets rid of a belly. And yes, I have had three kids and I am 45. Had a belly, started tracking calories extremely accurately and lo and behold the belly disappeared.

Is the consensus just one you arrived at yourself?

Subjects were randomized to 6 months of either an ad libitum very low carbohydrate diet or a calorie-restricted diet with 30% of the calories as fat...Women on both diets reduced calorie consumption by comparable amounts at 3 and 6 months. The very low carbohydrate diet group lost more weight (8.5 ± 1.0 vs. 3.9 ± 1.0 kg; P < 0.001) and more body fat (4.8 ± 0.67 vs. 2.0 ± 0.75 kg; P < 0.01) than the low fat diet group.

Source for above: https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/88/4/1617/2845298?login=true

An analysis including all subjects, with the last observation carried forward for those who dropped out, showed that subjects on the low-carbohydrate diet lost more weight than those on the low-fat diet

Source: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa022637

At 12 months, participants on the low-carbohydrate diet had greater decreases in weight (mean difference in change, −3.5 kg [95% CI, −5.6 to −1.4 kg]; P = 0.002), fat mass (mean difference in change, −1.5% [CI, −2.6% to −0.4%]; P = 0.011), ratio of total–high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol (mean difference in change, −0.44 [CI, −0.71 to −0.16]; P = 0.002), and triglyceride level (mean difference in change, −0.16 mmol/L [−14.1 mg/dL] [CI, −0.31 to −0.01 mmol/L {−27.4 to −0.8 mg/dL}]; P = 0.038) and greater increases in HDL cholesterol level (mean difference in change, 0.18 mmol/L [7.0 mg/dL] [CI, 0.08 to 0.28 mmol/L {3.0 to 11.0 mg/dL}]; P < 0.001) than those on the low-fat diet.

Source: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/abs/10.7326/m14-0180

I’m getting sick of cutting and pasting so I’ll stop here, but I think it’s clear that there’s no ”consensus” that the kind of calories you’re consuming don’t matter.

[Anonymous]

I eat flourless bread (e.g., Ezekiel Bread) about 4 times a week with soup. I have 2 slices of sourdough bread on Sundays. I’ve maintained a healthy weight for most of my adult life.

Like everything, moderation is the key.

[Anonymous]

Oh hell no, if anything, we are eating more because we are baking our own bread and it tastes so much better than the store bought stuff.

[Anonymous]

Eating a lot of bread will make you fat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:whyyyyy? Calories not carbs matters.

Not true. Maybe before 40, but after 40 it makes a real difference.

+1. The kind of calories matter. Bread calories are different than say sweet potato hash calories. If you have tried everything to get rid of having a belly after having kids but can't, most likely it's related to gluten and sugar.

I know that there isn't a huge consensus on this, but I don't think this is true. The difference is that things like sweet potato hash fill you up more than bread does, so if you eat according to how full you are, you will eat more calories if you eat bread.

There is actually a consensus on this. The kind of calories don’t matter. Eliminating gluten and sugar doesn’t get rid of a fat. Eliminating the calories from bread and sugar gets rid of a belly. And yes, I have had three kids and I am 45. Had a belly, started tracking calories extremely accurately and lo and behold the belly disappeared.

How did you determine the amount of calories required per day? Also, how did you track? Thanks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:whyyyyy? Calories not carbs matters.

Not true. Maybe before 40, but after 40 it makes a real difference.

+1. The kind of calories matter. Bread calories are different than say sweet potato hash calories. If you have tried everything to get rid of having a belly after having kids but can't, most likely it's related to gluten and sugar.

I know that there isn't a huge consensus on this, but I don't think this is true. The difference is that things like sweet potato hash fill you up more than bread does, so if you eat according to how full you are, you will eat more calories if you eat bread.

There is actually a consensus on this. The kind of calories don’t matter. Eliminating gluten and sugar doesn’t get rid of a fat. Eliminating the calories from bread and sugar gets rid of a belly. And yes, I have had three kids and I am 45. Had a belly, started tracking calories extremely accurately and lo and behold the belly disappeared.

How did you determine the amount of calories required per day? Also, how did you track? Thanks

Not PP, but you can use online calculators that tell you how much you roughly burn based on your age, weight and activity or you can get a fitness tracker, e.g. a Fitbit, that will estimate your daily calorie burn for you. Once you know your approximate average daily expenditure, subtract about 20% and make that your daily calorie goal. Use myfitnesspal or something similar to track your intake. Stick to the plan for two weeks and adjust based on your progress. Weigh yourself every day naked first thing in the morning before drinking or eating anything and compare weekly averages. If your weight is going down you are on track. Take measurement as well because scale weight can be affected by water retention.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:whyyyyy? Calories not carbs matters.

At 12 months, participants on the low-carbohydrate diet had greater decreases in weight (mean difference in change, −3.5 kg [95% CI, −5.6 to −1.4 kg]; P = 0.002), fat mass (mean difference in change, −1.5% [CI, −2.6% to −0.4%]; P = 0.011), ratio of total–high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol (mean difference in change, −0.44 [CI, −0.71 to −0.16]; P = 0.002), and triglyceride level (mean difference in change, −0.16 mmol/L [−14.1 mg/dL] [CI, −0.31 to −0.01 mmol/L {−27.4 to −0.8 mg/dL}]; P = 0.038) and greater increases in HDL cholesterol level (mean difference in change, 0.18 mmol/L [7.0 mg/dL] [CI, 0.08 to 0.28 mmol/L {3.0 to 11.0 mg/dL}]; P < 0.001) than those on the low-fat diet.

Source: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/abs/10.7326/m14-0180

I’m getting sick of cutting and pasting so I’ll stop here, but I think it’s clear that there’s no ”consensus” that the kind of calories you’re consuming don’t matter.

Thanks for posting. I prefer whole plant food/vegetarian so won't be doing the high fat-style diet myself, but it's interesting to read these studies.
On the topic at hand though, I just decided to give up bread for 10 days to see if it makes a difference. I love bread and eat too much of it! I figure I will try 10 days and see if it's worth it. I hope to lose 10lbs and so far what I am doing (5-2) isn't enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eating a lot of bread will make you fat.

And its things like this that get posted on this forum that will make people never, ever lose weight.

I eat bread all.the.time and am 5'6", 125 lbs. Not fat. I work out 6 days/week and am a vegetarian. Did I mention I am 46 years old?
This is such a lame excuse/cop-out for eating poorly. "But I don't eat bread!" There is nothing wrong with bread. It is what you put ON it, along with all the other crap you eat. Like a bun-less burger.