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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]whyyyyy?  Calories not carbs matters.  [/quote]

Not true. Maybe before 40, but after 40 it makes a real difference.[/quote]

+1. The kind of calories matter. Bread calories are different than say sweet potato hash calories. If you have tried everything to get rid of having a belly after having kids but can't, most likely it's related to gluten and sugar. [/quote]

I know that there isn't a huge consensus on this, but I don't think this is true. The difference is that things like sweet potato hash fill you up more than bread does, so if you eat according to how full you are, you will eat more calories if you eat bread.[/quote]

[b]There is actually a consensus on this. The kind of calories don’t matter.  [/b]Eliminating gluten and sugar doesn’t get rid of a fat. Eliminating the calories from bread and sugar gets rid of a belly.  And yes, I have had three kids and I am 45. Had a belly, started tracking calories extremely accurately and lo and behold the belly disappeared.  [/quote]

Is the consensus just one you arrived at yourself?

[quote]Subjects were randomized to 6 months of either an ad libitum very low carbohydrate diet or a calorie-restricted diet with 30% of the calories as fat...Women on both diets reduced calorie consumption by comparable amounts at 3 and 6 months. The very low carbohydrate diet group lost more weight (8.5 ± 1.0 vs. 3.9 ± 1.0 kg; P &lt; 0.001) and more body fat (4.8 ± 0.67 vs. 2.0 ± 0.75 kg; P &lt; 0.01) than the low fat diet group. [/quote]

Source for above: https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/88/4/1617/2845298?login=true

[quote]An analysis including all subjects, with the last observation carried forward for those who dropped out, showed that subjects on the low-carbohydrate diet lost more weight than those on the low-fat diet [/quote]

Source: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa022637

[quote]At 12 months, participants on the low-carbohydrate diet had greater decreases in weight (mean difference in change, −3.5 kg [95% CI, −5.6 to −1.4 kg]; P = 0.002), fat mass (mean difference in change, −1.5% [CI, −2.6% to −0.4%]; P = 0.011), ratio of total–high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol (mean difference in change, −0.44 [CI, −0.71 to −0.16]; P = 0.002), and triglyceride level (mean difference in change, −0.16 mmol/L [−14.1 mg/dL] [CI, −0.31 to −0.01 mmol/L {−27.4 to −0.8 mg/dL}]; P = 0.038) and greater increases in HDL cholesterol level (mean difference in change, 0.18 mmol/L [7.0 mg/dL] [CI, 0.08 to 0.28 mmol/L {3.0 to 11.0 mg/dL}]; P &lt; 0.001) than those on the low-fat diet.
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Source: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/abs/10.7326/m14-0180

I’m getting sick of cutting and pasting so I’ll stop here, but I think it’s clear that there’s no ”consensus” that the kind of calories you’re consuming don’t  matter.[/quote]

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