Year around schools VA

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Anonymous wrote:No I want summer.


There are still bound to be several three week long breaks and such.


So three weeks off at spring break, summer and Christmas? No thanks. It’s the same thing. I’d rather be off when it’s warm out.


This. And the parents saying it’s the same for childcare must have really young kids. Wait and see what camp options you have available in the cold months compared to summer for your older kids. This plan won’t happen.

Businesses adapt, just like they are doing now.
Anonymous
I’m not opposed to it, but I don’t think it will happen here. Too many moving parts to change how the childcare industry operates, too many teachers and parents who want that long summer break, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:It worth trying for the next few years to try and remediate the loss of 1.5 years of school. Desperate times call for desperate measures.


This is not to build in more time to catch up or deliver mediation, this is just a full year schedule so the breaks would be built into other times of the year.


No--this is specifically to catch up. That's exactly what all the press on this is saying.

Governor Ralph North announced Wednesday the possibility of year-round school to help offset the loss of learning because of the pandemic.

I do think it is critical to provide additional instruction to our students next year, and a year-round schedule is one way to approach that. (Richmond Superintendent)

The direct quote from Northam:


If they are going to add days to the school year, they would have to pay teachers more. Also the person claiming costs won’t rise, they will. AC being used for longer, teachers being paid extra and to work on breaks for high needs kids,etc. is it drastically more expensive? No, unless they do a tracking system for year round school like NC. But that would solve overcrowding issues because only 3/4 of the population would be in at a time.

“Our children have suffered from COVID-19, as has our families,” Northam said. “One of the things we are entertaining is perhaps year-round schooling for the next year. Perhaps adding increased days this summer. To really help our kids get caught up.”
Anonymous
No!!!

It would kill summer internships for high school. The experience the kids get from that is just as valuable. Since the rest of the country doesn’t do year round it puts our kids at a huge disadvantage. There is more to education that school.... other kids get that in the summer.

Jobs, internships, sports like swim team, etc...

Yes, you can do some of this with school.... but it isn’t the same experience - going to a job 9-5. And most internships and jobs (that are research or other oriented) only have 9-5 hours. So... you can’t do it while in school.

Not all kids need catch up from this year. But they all need the activities and engagement they missed out on. So.... don’t punish those who did ok with DL or worked extra hard for it.

I do think offering full year or summer for those who need it is a great option for those kids.

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Anonymous wrote:sure if there are weeks off during the year. better for travel.


There will be swim clubs that close. They won’t be able to survive financially. I know that may sounds petty pr privileged, but those clubs are a big thing for many people in NoVA. The activities such as summer swim leagues and summer employment related to those clubs would dry up.
Anonymous
Generally, on year round school- I’m a yes.

I’d love to be able to afford to travel somewhere as a family other than camping, or only visiting places nearby. It would definitely be welcome to me. There will still be camps and internships. It would also absolutely support continuity of learning.
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Anonymous wrote:No!!!

It would kill summer internships for high school. The experience the kids get from that is just as valuable. Since the rest of the country doesn’t do year round it puts our kids at a huge disadvantage. There is more to education that school.... other kids get that in the summer.

Jobs, internships, sports like swim team, etc...

Yes, you can do some of this with school.... but it isn’t the same experience - going to a job 9-5. And most internships and jobs (that are research or other oriented) only have 9-5 hours. So... you can’t do it while in school.

Not all kids need catch up from this year. But they all need the activities and engagement they missed out on. So.... don’t punish those who did ok with DL or worked extra hard for it.

I do think offering full year or summer for those who need it is a great option for those kids.



I totally agree with you.

Where would they get the money for this anyway? State and local revenues are way down due to the recession.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:FCPS had a few school pyramids that were year-round until about 10 years ago. The general public hated it and people actively pupil placed out of those schools.


Yes, but they didn’t call it that. They were referred to as modified calendar schools. Probably a better term than year-round.

(I’m not in favor.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:FCPS had a few school pyramids that were year-round until about 10 years ago. The general public hated it and people actively pupil placed out of those schools.


As far as I can tell the general public in FCPS hate literally everything though
Anonymous
I think it’s a good thing in theory to offer it to everyone, in person, free of charge this coming summer. In practice I think very few people will sign up for it and it might end up being more trouble than it’s worth.
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Anonymous wrote:FCPS had a few school pyramids that were year-round until about 10 years ago. The general public hated it and people actively pupil placed out of those schools.


As far as I can tell the general public in FCPS hate literally everything though


🤣. Seriously
Anonymous
Summer school for special ed students in FCPS is mandated by federal law and an absolute joke. I wouldn’t have any confidence in their ability to provide a quality or even mediocre experience.
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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s a good thing in theory to offer it to everyone, in person, free of charge this coming summer. In practice I think very few people will sign up for it and it might end up being more trouble than it’s worth.


Staffing might be an issue. It would have to be a separate contract.
Anonymous
Research does not clearly support Year round schooling. I haven’t been able to find any studies that show a clear advantage and given the cost increase it doesn’t seem worth it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It worth trying for the next few years to try and remediate the loss of 1.5 years of school. Desperate times call for desperate measures.


This is not to build in more time to catch up or deliver mediation, this is just a full year schedule so the breaks would be built into other times of the year.


No--this is specifically to catch up. That's exactly what all the press on this is saying.

Governor Ralph North announced Wednesday the possibility of year-round school to help offset the loss of learning because of the pandemic.

I do think it is critical to provide additional instruction to our students next year, and a year-round schedule is one way to approach that. (Richmond Superintendent)

The direct quote from Northam:

“Our children have suffered from COVID-19, as has our families,” Northam said. “One of the things we are entertaining is perhaps year-round schooling for the next year. Perhaps adding increased days this summer. To really help our kids get caught up.”


You’re not reading closely enough. The “additional instruction” would come from the other consideration of adding increased days this summer. Summer school.

Year round schooling itself is not additional instruction. It’s the same days spread differently designed to prevent summer slide and increase learning momentum and info retention


+1, he was sharing two different ideas.
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