Do you think there will be any in-person learning this spring?

[Anonymous]

Stop blaming the teacher's union. Blame is on Dr Gayles and Marc Elrich (who listend to Dr Gayles). If they said it was safe to be in school, kids would be in school.

I have one in public and one in private, and the one in private has been doing hybrid since September. There are some students doing 100% DL, and teachers have handled the mix of in person and DL just fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop blaming the teacher's union. Blame is on Dr Gayles and Marc Elrich (who listend to Dr Gayles). If they said it was safe to be in school, kids would be in school.

I have one in public and one in private, and the one in private has been doing hybrid since September. There are some students doing 100% DL, and teachers have handled the mix of in person and DL just fine.

I am no fan of Dr. Gayles or March Elrich, but they are not completely to blame. Actually Elrich has absolutely no role in whether or not schools open or close. Gayles is there to provide guidance only. Whether or not the schools follow the guidance is their choice -- including MCPS. Luckily, MCPS finally listened to parents' complaints and the emerging science and adjusted the metrics to be more in line with the rest of the state. Gayles had provided guidance stipulating most kids not return until we were at 5 per 100K. Now that we are at a more reasonable threshold, there is a much better chance of returning ini the spring.

Honestly, based on the state's guidance, students can return even sooner. I think there will be another push to get students back sooner than the 15K. Other states are doing it now and there are scientists saying it can be done safely and that the risk/benefit is worth opening schools regardless of community spread. The private schools have been in session since August, and there has been minimal in school transmission and no deaths....probably no hospitalizations either (but we don't know that for sure).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A private Facebook group by radical leftists that are now devoting their attention to keeping schools indefinitely.

A group trying to keep schools indefinitely? I certainly hope so! I'd hate to see the end of school...

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Anonymous wrote:A private Facebook group by radical leftists that are now devoting their attention to keeping schools indefinitely.

A group trying to keep schools indefinitely? I certainly hope so! I'd hate to see the end of school...

Lol. Closed indefinitely. But funny typo.

[Anonymous]

Yes, but minimal, just to cycle everyone through the buildings and remind them of what it's like. Hopefully things will be open by fall

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, there will be in-person this spring. Coronaviruses start losing power after February anyway. Add to that tens of millions of vaccinated people (close to 100 million by the end of February), no one will be able to keep schools closed. We just need to go through a few more tough weeks. Hang in there.

Numbers are going up, not down. Its not going to lose power except if people stay home and stop all the creative social contact.

I did not say the numbers are going down now (well, strictly speaking it actually went down for the past week or so, but that's not my point). My point is, with the arrival of spring and significant number of vaccinations, our numbers will go down significantly. It does not take a genius to see that. Look at historical coronavirus statistics in northern and southern hemisphere as a function of time of the year.

There will be some vaccinations but none for kids. The only way to get numbers down is to stay home and that is not happening. We will have more surges with Christmas and New Years.

As long as you are vaccinated, you are 95% protected. Kids' vaccination is not important unless the kid herself is a high risk individual.

Kids spread the virus. Are you just picking what you want to meet your needs?

Did I say anything about kids spreading or not spreading? You have problem understanding scientific process. Pfizer and Moderna clinical trials are performed in real world. They both conclude that if you are vaccinated, you are 95% protected from getting infected and almost 100% protected from developing serious illness IN THE PRESENCE of SPREADING PEOPLE, KIDS or NOT.

So, what will happen if we go back and kids are not vaccinated? I understand the problem and until it’s under control DL is our only safe option.

For the third time. Kids getting vaccinated is not crucial. The risk for them is really small. Teachers get vaccinated. That way even if a kid is asymptomatic, the teacher is protected.

[Anonymous]

As more and more people get vaccinated test positivity will eventually lower below the 5% threshold. Just vaccinating teachers won’t be enough to do this though. The kids will just bring it home and spread it to adults there. Also with kids out of the house adults will be more out and about or working and spreading the virus themselves. Just pinning this on the teachers is just a political trope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As more and more people get vaccinated test positivity will eventually lower below the 5% threshold. Just vaccinating teachers won’t be enough to do this though. The kids will just bring it home and spread it to adults there. Also with kids out of the house adults will be more out and about or working and spreading the virus themselves. Just pinning this on the teachers is just a political trope.

Falling under 5% positivity rate is not hard, just increase testing and you are there. It’s getting under 15 cases per 100,000 that’s an issue. It will happen but around March. Then the cases have to be under 15/100,000 for 14 days for MCPS to consider reopening and then BOE has to approve reopening. By then it’s spring break. So maybe they will have some in person last 2 months of the school year.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop blaming the teacher's union. Blame is on Dr Gayles and Marc Elrich (who listend to Dr Gayles). If they said it was safe to be in school, kids would be in school.

I have one in public and one in private, and the one in private has been doing hybrid since September. There are some students doing 100% DL, and teachers have handled the mix of in person and DL just fine.

I'm planning to send my kids hybrid when it opens, but the bolded is ridiculous. Private school classes are so much smaller than public schools. I'd be shocked if the private schools weren't able to handle hybrid easily. Apples and oranges.

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Anonymous wrote:As more and more people get vaccinated test positivity will eventually lower below the 5% threshold. Just vaccinating teachers won’t be enough to do this though. The kids will just bring it home and spread it to adults there. Also with kids out of the house adults will be more out and about or working and spreading the virus themselves. Just pinning this on the teachers is just a political trope.

Sure, but it's not political trope to acknowledge that MCEA using it's political connections and influence over PTA groups to fight any attempts to reopen schools.

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No.

It’s obvious, OP.

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Anonymous wrote:Not if MCEA has any say in it. You can already tell from some of the posts here and on PAGES that they're planning to fight a return in the fall.

If we don't have a vaccine and you can get COVID repeatedly in person is not safe.

Well, even with a vaccine, that could mean that we can get Covid repeatedly. What difference does the vaccine make in your scenario?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nope! We’ll be lucky to go back hybrid in the fall of 2021! Realistically it’s 2022 at this point.

Agree with this.

The majority of Montgomery County residents do NOT support having kids go back in person. There is only a small number of us, who want kids back in school safely. But we are in the minority. I don’t see that changing.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, there will be in-person this spring. Coronaviruses start losing power after February anyway. Add to that tens of millions of vaccinated people (close to 100 million by the end of February), no one will be able to keep schools closed. We just need to go through a few more tough weeks. Hang in there.

Numbers are going up, not down. Its not going to lose power except if people stay home and stop all the creative social contact.

I did not say the numbers are going down now (well, strictly speaking it actually went down for the past week or so, but that's not my point). My point is, with the arrival of spring and significant number of vaccinations, our numbers will go down significantly. It does not take a genius to see that. Look at historical coronavirus statistics in northern and southern hemisphere as a function of time of the year.

There will be some vaccinations but none for kids. The only way to get numbers down is to stay home and that is not happening. We will have more surges with Christmas and New Years.

As long as you are vaccinated, you are 95% protected. Kids' vaccination is not important unless the kid herself is a high risk individual.

Kids spread the virus. Are you just picking what you want to meet your needs?

Did I say anything about kids spreading or not spreading? You have problem understanding scientific process. Pfizer and Moderna clinical trials are performed in real world. They both conclude that if you are vaccinated, you are 95% protected from getting infected and almost 100% protected from developing serious illness IN THE PRESENCE of SPREADING PEOPLE, KIDS or NOT.

So, what will happen if we go back and kids are not vaccinated? I understand the problem and until it’s under control DL is our only safe option.

For the third time. Kids getting vaccinated is not crucial. The risk for them is really small. Teachers get vaccinated. That way even if a kid is asymptomatic, the teacher is protected.

There is a huge risk to kids and them transmitting it to others including their family. Look, we get it. You are not an involved parent who wants to get the kids out of the house so things are easier for you but don't kid yourself to think its safe for anyone. You need to protect everyone, not just teachers. I don't want my kids around yours given your lifestyle choices will put mine at risk because you are too selfish to care about transmission or other people.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope! We’ll be lucky to go back hybrid in the fall of 2021! Realistically it’s 2022 at this point.

Agree with this.

The majority of Montgomery County residents do NOT support having kids go back in person. There is only a small number of us, who want kids back in school safely. But we are in the minority. I don’t see that changing.

People don't support it because there is no safe way to do it. And, it would be very disruptive to have school, get a positive, quarantine and then repeat when child care may be an issue for kids during quarantine.

If you want your kids in person pay for private where the other selfish families are.