Vienna ES

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Any school in a wealthy part of Fairfax County is going to be great with a wonderful community and good teachers. Check the demographics, if it's 90%+ white then you're good.

Fairfax County ignores diverse/low-income schools.


I’m sure that’s true. Vienna ES is 69% white.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The new grading policy is actually standard at many post secondary institutions. The new policy is that no student will receive less than 50% regardless of whether or not the assignment was completed.

It is much easier to improve your score from
50 than 20. I am not sure what the big deal is other than some parents and educators having a punitive mindset.

Kids can still earn an F, but if they decide that they want to try, they have the ability to reach success from that 50.

This really is an equitable approach to learning for all students. Thankful that our county has finally entered the current century in best practices in education.


These types of things are the worst possible things one can do for education. Why engineer grades to pass more kids that don't know the material? I don't really understand how you calling that "equity" actually benefits them. Think about it, do you want many kids to coast through k-12 and then fail in college, full of debt? Think about how crushing that is on their life. That is already a huuuge issue for many many of them who have lots college debt.

We should be teaching our kids the exact opposite; resilience, and figuring out how to learn and improve. Even in a pandemic, we should be able to collectively do that as parents and teachers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The new grading policy is actually standard at many post secondary institutions. The new policy is that no student will receive less than 50% regardless of whether or not the assignment was completed.

It is much easier to improve your score from
50 than 20. I am not sure what the big deal is other than some parents and educators having a punitive mindset.

Kids can still earn an F, but if they decide that they want to try, they have the ability to reach success from that 50.

This really is an equitable approach to learning for all students. Thankful that our county has finally entered the current century in best practices in education.


These types of things are the worst possible things one can do for education. Why engineer grades to pass more kids that don't know the material? I don't really understand how you calling that "equity" actually benefits them. Think about it, do you want many kids to coast through k-12 and then fail in college, full of debt? Think about how crushing that is on their life. That is already a huuuge issue for many many of them who have lots college debt.
We should be teaching our kids the exact opposite; resilience, and figuring out how to learn and improve. Even in a pandemic, we should be able to collectively do that as parents and teachers.


Do you get that a 50% is still failing? What is the benefit of giving a kids a 20% or 0%? Also, are you against grading on a curve? Doubtful. But grading on a curve is similar in that it ups the entire class -even that high scoring student who only scores an 83% bumps up to an A grade. The idea of no zeroes is to stop literally killing the chances of kids who mess up. I mean your boss doesn’t fail you for a mess up. In fact, I’m certain that you’re asked to try whatever you did wrong again or are offered company paid training. Punitive measures are archaic and severe and most often directed to kids of minority status or with ieps or 504s.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The new grading policy is actually standard at many post secondary institutions. The new policy is that no student will receive less than 50% regardless of whether or not the assignment was completed.

It is much easier to improve your score from
50 than 20. I am not sure what the big deal is other than some parents and educators having a punitive mindset.

Kids can still earn an F, but if they decide that they want to try, they have the ability to reach success from that 50.

This really is an equitable approach to learning for all students. Thankful that our county has finally entered the current century in best practices in education.


These types of things are the worst possible things one can do for education. Why engineer grades to pass more kids that don't know the material? I don't really understand how you calling that "equity" actually benefits them. Think about it, do you want many kids to coast through k-12 and then fail in college, full of debt? Think about how crushing that is on their life. That is already a huuuge issue for many many of them who have lots college debt.
We should be teaching our kids the exact opposite; resilience, and figuring out how to learn and improve. Even in a pandemic, we should be able to collectively do that as parents and teachers.


Do you get that a 50% is still failing? What is the benefit of giving a kids a 20% or 0%? Also, are you against grading on a curve? Doubtful. But grading on a curve is similar in that it ups the entire class -even that high scoring student who only scores an 83% bumps up to an A grade. The idea of no zeroes is to stop literally killing the chances of kids who mess up. I mean your boss doesn’t fail you for a mess up. In fact, I’m certain that you’re asked to try whatever you did wrong again or are offered company paid training. Punitive measures are archaic and severe and most often directed to kids of minority status or with ieps or 504s.


Then why bother have grading at all? That by definition is a punitive measure, as it punishes those who get low values. I'm actually against all this testing and grading/sorting, as it puts way too much pressure on students in high school and leads to lots of anxiety instead of a love of learning. But your suggestion is not a great approach since it makes no sense to give a 50% for someone literally writing their name on the assignment. Clearly all kids who don't want to do their homework will take advantage and do just that. How is that helping them? I'm saying if the teacher feels like they did enough work to qualify for 50%, fine give them that (or whatever the teacher believes they deserve for that assignment). Also, I never implied that we should not help them do well. I do think that many teachers do give students a couple of freebies on homework assignments, or quizzes, or possibly even a test. But my general point is that the rules should be clearly spelled out in the syllabus for that class, and the students should take note of that at the beginning of the class year. If they don't do this, how in the world are they going to be in a position to succeed in college?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Our new house is zoned for Vienna ES in FCPS. We are considering private, but would prefer to send our children public. Does anyone have personal experience with this school? TIA


Bumping this. We are in a similar position as this OP. Any feedback post Covid? Thanks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our new house is zoned for Vienna ES in FCPS. We are considering private, but would prefer to send our children public. Does anyone have personal experience with this school? TIA


Bumping this. We are in a similar position as this OP. Any feedback post Covid? Thanks.


We have been at VES since 2017. Love the school, community and teachers. It’s one of many schools in FCPS, but it feels very much like a private school. Good luck!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our new house is zoned for Vienna ES in FCPS. We are considering private, but would prefer to send our children public. Does anyone have personal experience with this school? TIA


Bumping this. We are in a similar position as this OP. Any feedback post Covid? Thanks.


We have been at VES since 2017. Love the school, community and teachers. It’s one of many schools in FCPS, but it feels very much like a private school. Good luck!


How does it feel like a private school?

How is the writing instruction?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our new house is zoned for Vienna ES in FCPS. We are considering private, but would prefer to send our children public. Does anyone have personal experience with this school? TIA


Bumping this. We are in a similar position as this OP. Any feedback post Covid? Thanks.


We have been at VES since 2017. Love the school, community and teachers. It’s one of many schools in FCPS, but it feels very much like a private school. Good luck!

I feel like people who say this have no experience with private school (and I'm not bashing FCPS as I one in FCPS and one in private).
Anonymous
My kid has an IEP due to speech issues. We’re on our fourth round of tubes, which seem to help. Anyway, the special ed teacher came to a meeting the speech teacher called with us. She told us our son wouldn’t be able to learn to read until he could speak clearly.

They wouldn’t give any extra supports or instruction. I’m under the impression that he may have gotten less instruction than classmates who weren’t in speech.

Anyway, that was in October. I worked with my son at home and now he’s reading at a DRA-6. I’m not a teacher and I knew nothing about teaching someone to read but I had no trouble teaching him to read.

The rest of the school may be okay but Kim Cash should find a different job.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kid has an IEP due to speech issues. We’re on our fourth round of tubes, which seem to help. Anyway, the special ed teacher came to a meeting the speech teacher called with us. [b]She told us our son wouldn’t be able to learn to read until he could speak clearly.

They wouldn’t give any extra supports or instruction. I’m under the impression that he may have gotten less instruction than classmates who weren’t in speech.

Anyway, that was in October. I worked with my son at home and now he’s reading at a DRA-6. I’m not a teacher and I knew nothing about teaching someone to read but I had no trouble teaching him to read.

The rest of the school may be okay but Kim Cash should find a different job.

WTAF, that is the most bats*** thing I have heard in a long time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our new house is zoned for Vienna ES in FCPS. We are considering private, but would prefer to send our children public. Does anyone have personal experience with this school? TIA


Bumping this. We are in a similar position as this OP. Any feedback post Covid? Thanks.


We have been at VES since 2017. Love the school, community and teachers. It’s one of many schools in FCPS, but it feels very much like a private school. Good luck!

I feel like people who say this have no experience with private school (and I'm not bashing FCPS as I one in FCPS and one in private).


yeah, this sounds like some pretty typical Vienna mom striving nonsense.
Anonymous
Do not like the principal. Bad experience otherwise good school. Kind teachers for the most part.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do not like the principal. Bad experience otherwise good school. Kind teachers for the most part.


Many teachers are kind, yet some (teachers and staff) were the most cold-hearted people I've met in my life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our new house is zoned for Vienna ES in FCPS. We are considering private, but would prefer to send our children public. Does anyone have personal experience with this school? TIA


Bumping this. We are in a similar position as this OP. Any feedback post Covid? Thanks.


We have been at VES since 2017. Love the school, community and teachers. It’s one of many schools in FCPS, but it feels very much like a private school. Good luck!

I feel like people who say this have no experience with private school (and I'm not bashing FCPS as I one in FCPS and one in private).


yeah, this sounds like some pretty typical Vienna mom striving nonsense.


Lol what is a typical Vienna mom striver? (asking bc I’m a Vienna mom too!)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do not like the principal. Bad experience otherwise good school. Kind teachers for the most part.


Many teachers are kind, yet some (teachers and staff) were the most cold-hearted people I've met in my life.


Are you for real, pp? The most cold hearted people you have ever met?!
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