Hogan press conference today at 3:00

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This cannot be true. So adults can work out in gyms, but teenagers can't practice sports? Unbelievable.

Why is that unbelievable?

Adults also can't practice sports.

"RETAIL/FITNESS/PERSONAL SERVICES: Retail stores, indoor gyms and fitness centers, personal services establishments (such as nail salons), and casinos will have a reduced maximum capacity of 25%.

THEATERS/ENTERTAINMENT: Indoor theaters, performance venues, bingo, bowling alleys, pool halls, roller rinks and indoor ice rinks will be closed. The county previously suspended organized athletics on county fields and facilities on Nov. 20, and Thursday's announcement suspends all organized sports play or practice, which includes private schools, and school or church gyms."

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/covid-19-restrictions-anne-arundel-county-december-16/34932308

No, they are keeping gyms open. Allow kids to practice their sports at a similar restricted capacity. They have been unduly punishing those not at risk throughout this entire pandemic and it's horrendous. But they cave to business owners, where there is actual risk. Hopefully by Wednesday they'll come to their senses.

Right, they are keeping gyms open (= gyms) and not allowing people to play/practice sports (=/= gyms).

There's nothing sacred about youth sports, as far as I know.

Correct--we continue to punish children for no reason.

No reason?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/youth-hockey-emerges-coronavirus-threat-families-fight-stay/story?id=74232730

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Sure, it's all hockey's fault.

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It's not the children playing the sports, it's the parents congregating and the tournaments that attract a large crowd. I wish people would start using their brains about this stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not the children playing the sports, it's the parents congregating and the tournaments that attract a large crowd. I wish people would start using their brains about this stuff.

12 girls, playing in what's basically a giant warehouse, all doors open, with masks. No parents inside at all. There has been and would be zero transmission through this. It is my child's last outlet and it cannot be rescinded. These mandates are simply not lawful or enforceable. I do not know why we are just accepting this nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This cannot be true. So adults can work out in gyms, but teenagers can't practice sports? Unbelievable.

Why is that unbelievable?

Adults also can't practice sports.

"RETAIL/FITNESS/PERSONAL SERVICES: Retail stores, indoor gyms and fitness centers, personal services establishments (such as nail salons), and casinos will have a reduced maximum capacity of 25%.

THEATERS/ENTERTAINMENT: Indoor theaters, performance venues, bingo, bowling alleys, pool halls, roller rinks and indoor ice rinks will be closed. The county previously suspended organized athletics on county fields and facilities on Nov. 20, and Thursday's announcement suspends all organized sports play or practice, which includes private schools, and school or church gyms."

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/covid-19-restrictions-anne-arundel-county-december-16/34932308

No, they are keeping gyms open. Allow kids to practice their sports at a similar restricted capacity. They have been unduly punishing those not at risk throughout this entire pandemic and it's horrendous. But they cave to business owners, where there is actual risk. Hopefully by Wednesday they'll come to their senses.

Right, they are keeping gyms open (= gyms) and not allowing people to play/practice sports (=/= gyms).

There's nothing sacred about youth sports, as far as I know.

Correct--we continue to punish children for no reason.

No reason?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/youth-hockey-emerges-coronavirus-threat-families-fight-stay/story?id=74232730

Personally, I'm not talking about ice hockey. There are some pretty specific theories behind that, so I understand it--but I'll agree with PP--the spread is really not from ice hockey.

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Virginia just implemented a mandatory nighttime curfew. Hopefully Hogan will do the same. I want to believe they’ve coordinated it. Now it’s on Bowser.

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The county health officer in AA county is on record as stating that COVID-19 spread through actually playing youth sports has not been proven. However, participation in team sports creates problems with contact tracing because of the large number of people a participant who tests positive may have come into contact with.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not the children playing the sports, it's the parents congregating and the tournaments that attract a large crowd. I wish people would start using their brains about this stuff.

12 girls, playing in what's basically a giant warehouse, all doors open, with masks. No parents inside at all. There has been and would be zero transmission through this. It is my child's last outlet and it cannot be rescinded. These mandates are simply not lawful or enforceable. I do not know why we are just accepting this nonsense.

Can you stop being self-centered and realize that others' sports are NOT implemented in a safe manner? My daughter's beloved horseback-riding is as distanced and outdoorsy as you can get (yet they enforce masks and gloves!!!), BUT I accept it may be cut along with the dangerous group contact sports where parents huddle together and have been seen not to wear masks.

Governments just can't go around separating the wheat from the chaff at such a granular level, PP. It's going to be a blanket ban on youth sports or nothing. And that's FINE. We're trying to save lives, here. Our children's last remaining outlets to stay sane don't hold a candle to SAVING LIVES.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not the children playing the sports, it's the parents congregating and the tournaments that attract a large crowd. I wish people would start using their brains about this stuff.

12 girls, playing in what's basically a giant warehouse, all doors open, with masks. No parents inside at all. There has been and would be zero transmission through this. It is my child's last outlet and it cannot be rescinded. These mandates are simply not lawful or enforceable. I do not know why we are just accepting this nonsense.

Can you stop being self-centered and realize that others' sports are NOT implemented in a safe manner? My daughter's beloved horseback-riding is as distanced and outdoorsy as you can get (yet they enforce masks and gloves!!!), BUT I accept it may be cut along with the dangerous group contact sports where parents huddle together and have been seen not to wear masks.

Governments just can't go around separating the wheat from the chaff at such a granular level, PP. It's going to be a blanket ban on youth sports or nothing. And that's FINE. We're trying to save lives, here. Our children's last remaining outlets to stay sane don't hold a candle to SAVING LIVES.

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My life isn’t worth your Larla still being allowed to play soccer. Even with a mask. It’s a contact sport. Fail.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not the children playing the sports, it's the parents congregating and the tournaments that attract a large crowd. I wish people would start using their brains about this stuff.

12 girls, playing in what's basically a giant warehouse, all doors open, with masks. No parents inside at all. There has been and would be zero transmission through this. It is my child's last outlet and it cannot be rescinded. These mandates are simply not lawful or enforceable. I do not know why we are just accepting this nonsense.

Can you stop being self-centered and realize that others' sports are NOT implemented in a safe manner? My daughter's beloved horseback-riding is as distanced and outdoorsy as you can get (yet they enforce masks and gloves!!!), BUT I accept it may be cut along with the dangerous group contact sports where parents huddle together and have been seen not to wear masks.

Governments just can't go around separating the wheat from the chaff at such a granular level, PP. It's going to be a blanket ban on youth sports or nothing. And that's FINE. We're trying to save lives, here. Our children's last remaining outlets to stay sane don't hold a candle to SAVING LIVES.

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My life isn’t worth your Larla still being allowed to play soccer. Even with a mask. It’s a contact sport. Fail.

At least not right now. We have to do something to get through this winter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not the children playing the sports, it's the parents congregating and the tournaments that attract a large crowd. I wish people would start using their brains about this stuff.

12 girls, playing in what's basically a giant warehouse, all doors open, with masks. No parents inside at all. There has been and would be zero transmission through this. It is my child's last outlet and it cannot be rescinded. These mandates are simply not lawful or enforceable. I do not know why we are just accepting this nonsense.

Can you stop being self-centered and realize that others' sports are NOT implemented in a safe manner? My daughter's beloved horseback-riding is as distanced and outdoorsy as you can get (yet they enforce masks and gloves!!!), BUT I accept it may be cut along with the dangerous group contact sports where parents huddle together and have been seen not to wear masks.

Governments just can't go around separating the wheat from the chaff at such a granular level, PP. It's going to be a blanket ban on youth sports or nothing. And that's FINE. We're trying to save lives, here. Our children's last remaining outlets to stay sane don't hold a candle to SAVING LIVES.

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My life isn’t worth your Larla still being allowed to play soccer. Even with a mask. It’s a contact sport. Fail.

And if your life is worth so much, YOU stay home and wear a mask.

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia just implemented a mandatory nighttime curfew. Hopefully Hogan will do the same. I want to believe they’ve coordinated it. Now it’s on Bowser.

Maryland has had a curfew for a few weeks now, and it's done NOTHING to blunt the surge. Our leaders, both Democrats and Republicans, are irresponsible worms (no offense to worms).

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Anonymous wrote:Watching Anne Arundel County Executive now:

New restriction for 4 week (at least) to see if actions help preserve hospital capacity. These take effect NEXT Wednesday at 5 p.m. to allow stakeholder input and to allow restaurant owners to use the food they have in stock.

1) Restaurants and bars - Contact tracing shows that virus is being spread here at higher rates than other business activities. CDC also said that people over 65 and those with health conditions should not enter any public place where people aren't masked. AA County will move from 25% capacity to takeout only.
Will start Takeout Anne Arundel marketing campaign to encourage takeout. Some assistance will be provided for workers. Will also bring bill to county council to restrict fees that delivery services can charge to restaurants.

2) Retail - moved to 25% fire code capacity. County Exec. does not believe that this will have major impact on sales.

3) Fitness centers - remain open 25% capacity and every needs to wear masks. If you can't wear masks, exercise at home. Classes suspended.

4) Casinos - Live Casino - move from 50% capacity to 25% capacity with no food service.

5) Salons, barbers, personal service - 25% capacity

6) Religious facilities - one-third capacity restriction - religious institutions said it should not be a problem - can have larger outdoor gatherings

7) Fellowship addiction recovery - 25%??

8) Social club facilities (Elks, VFW) - 25% capacity - no food

9) Organized sports - all suspended for for weeks (not just Park and Rec) - I assume this means that all the indoor soccer, futsal, basketball, etc. facilities are now closed.

Rinks, adult entertainment facilities - all closed

This cannot be true. So adults can work out in gyms, but teenagers can't practice sports? Unbelievable.

Even more, adults can gamble at a casino but teenagers can't practice sports.
UGH!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watching Anne Arundel County Executive now:

New restriction for 4 week (at least) to see if actions help preserve hospital capacity. These take effect NEXT Wednesday at 5 p.m. to allow stakeholder input and to allow restaurant owners to use the food they have in stock.

1) Restaurants and bars - Contact tracing shows that virus is being spread here at higher rates than other business activities. CDC also said that people over 65 and those with health conditions should not enter any public place where people aren't masked. AA County will move from 25% capacity to takeout only.
Will start Takeout Anne Arundel marketing campaign to encourage takeout. Some assistance will be provided for workers. Will also bring bill to county council to restrict fees that delivery services can charge to restaurants.

2) Retail - moved to 25% fire code capacity. County Exec. does not believe that this will have major impact on sales.

3) Fitness centers - remain open 25% capacity and every needs to wear masks. If you can't wear masks, exercise at home. Classes suspended.

4) Casinos - Live Casino - move from 50% capacity to 25% capacity with no food service.

5) Salons, barbers, personal service - 25% capacity

6) Religious facilities - one-third capacity restriction - religious institutions said it should not be a problem - can have larger outdoor gatherings

7) Fellowship addiction recovery - 25%??

8) Social club facilities (Elks, VFW) - 25% capacity - no food

9) Organized sports - all suspended for for weeks (not just Park and Rec) - I assume this means that all the indoor soccer, futsal, basketball, etc. facilities are now closed.

Rinks, adult entertainment facilities - all closed

This cannot be true. So adults can work out in gyms, but teenagers can't practice sports? Unbelievable.

Even more, adults can gamble at a casino but teenagers can't practice sports.
UGH!

weren't indoor sports already closed?

Is there a chance MoCo will suspend outdoor sports?

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Even more, adults can gamble at a casino but teenagers can't practice sports.
UGH!

Typically, gambling adults don't tackle each other while rabid maskless parents huddle on the sidelines. Casinos aren't supposed to serve food or drink either.
While I don't think casinos should be open at all, I think the level of viral spread is probably greater at the contact sport event, even though it's outdoors.