Indiana University

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Anonymous wrote:My husband got his master’s and doctorate in piano performance from IU. It’s an excellent school for music. He’s now a piano professor at a DC university.

How much do you make as a piano professor?

Ten years ago, DS was accepted into IU prestigious Jacobs school of music. He studied classical music but dropped out after three years because he realized it will be hard to make a living as a classical musician, only a very few did. He left IU for Atlanta to produce trashy rap and hip hop music, and is now very wealthy. Enough money to take good care of his parents. IU has an excellent school of music but you need to be aware of what you're going to get yourself into.

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Anonymous wrote:When I went there the school runs a bit white christian. I am Jewish and many of the kids there never met anyone who was Jewish (many were from small towns in Indiana). This was many years ago though. Because of all the kids coming in from the East coast, I'm sure the Jewish population has grown a bit and hopefully cultural advances have been made since I was last there. I lived in one of the smaller hippy dorms (Collins) and there was a good mix of POC, artists, free spirits, etc. But most of the school is not like that.

It still is this way. My kid went to a very diverse high school and IU is white, white, white. The business school tends to have more diversity than the other colleges.

There is nothing wrong with white, white, white, so long as there are no remnants of those who allowed slavery, racism, or segregation, which you will find very little in Indiana as another PP alluded to, and you will find some traits of those in all Southern towns, such as Charlottesville. Let's not forget where the phrase "sold down the river" came from, it is from Charlottesville where they sold the slaves down the James river to southern plantations, where the life expectancy were less than 5 years because of the hard toil in the southern plantations. Indiana doesn't have that history.

Indiana has a very looooong history with racism and the KKK. The county next to Monroe county has an open and active KKK. There are white supremacists at the farmer's market in Bloomington and if a protestor against the white supremacists dared to show a sign, the were arrested.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband got his master’s and doctorate in piano performance from IU. It’s an excellent school for music. He’s now a piano professor at a DC university.

How much do you make as a piano professor?

Ten years ago, DS was accepted into IU prestigious Jacobs school of music. He studied classical music but dropped out after three years because he realized it will be hard to make a living as a classical musician, only a very few did. He left IU for Atlanta to produce trashy rap and hip hop music, and is now very wealthy. Enough money to take good care of his parents. IU has an excellent school of music but you need to be aware of what you're going to get yourself into.

but it seems like fantasy land out there. I'm kind of shocked by the number of music, drama, and film students I met when attending committed student events. I know more parents with kids in these majors than I know kids in business, comp sci, biology etc.

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‘ There is nothing wrong with white, white, white, so long as there are no remnants of those who allowed slavery, racism, or segregation...”

Is this a troll post or a legitimate opinion?

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Anonymous wrote:My husband got his master’s and doctorate in piano performance from IU. It’s an excellent school for music. He’s now a piano professor at a DC university.

How much do you make as a piano professor?

Ten years ago, DS was accepted into IU prestigious Jacobs school of music. He studied classical music but dropped out after three years because he realized it will be hard to make a living as a classical musician, only a very few did. He left IU for Atlanta to produce trashy rap and hip hop music, and is now very wealthy. Enough money to take good care of his parents. IU has an excellent school of music but you need to be aware of what you're going to get yourself into.

Truthfully, not very much. He does have a recurring summer gig that fills the gap in between the academic semesters, and he also does other gigs when the opportunity arises, but I make double his income (federal worker). However, his job satisfaction is quite high, which is refreshing to see.

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Anonymous wrote:When I went there the school runs a bit white christian. I am Jewish and many of the kids there never met anyone who was Jewish (many were from small towns in Indiana). This was many years ago though. Because of all the kids coming in from the East coast, I'm sure the Jewish population has grown a bit and hopefully cultural advances have been made since I was last there. I lived in one of the smaller hippy dorms (Collins) and there was a good mix of POC, artists, free spirits, etc. But most of the school is not like that.

It still is this way. My kid went to a very diverse high school and IU is white, white, white. The business school tends to have more diversity than the other colleges.

There is nothing wrong with white, white, white, so long as there are no remnants of those who allowed slavery, racism, or segregation, which you will find very little in Indiana as another PP alluded to, and you will find some traits of those in all Southern towns, such as Charlottesville. Let's not forget where the phrase "sold down the river" came from, it is from Charlottesville where they sold the slaves down the James river to southern plantations, where the life expectancy were less than 5 years because of the hard toil in the southern plantations. Indiana doesn't have that history.

Indiana has a very looooong history with racism and the KKK. The county next to Monroe county has an open and active KKK. There are white supremacists at the farmer's market in Bloomington and if a protestor against the white supremacists dared to show a sign, the were arrested.

You want to talk history? OK! In our history, it was legal to own people as slaves,smell the, beat the, etc., in Virginia and in Marylabd. It was never legal in Indiana. So you don't get to act like DC area = good and Midwest = bad from the perspective of history.

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Anonymous wrote:When I went there the school runs a bit white christian. I am Jewish and many of the kids there never met anyone who was Jewish (many were from small towns in Indiana). This was many years ago though. Because of all the kids coming in from the East coast, I'm sure the Jewish population has grown a bit and hopefully cultural advances have been made since I was last there. I lived in one of the smaller hippy dorms (Collins) and there was a good mix of POC, artists, free spirits, etc. But most of the school is not like that.

It still is this way. My kid went to a very diverse high school and IU is white, white, white. The business school tends to have more diversity than the other colleges.

There is nothing wrong with white, white, white, so long as there are no remnants of those who allowed slavery, racism, or segregation, which you will find very little in Indiana as another PP alluded to, and you will find some traits of those in all Southern towns, such as Charlottesville. Let's not forget where the phrase "sold down the river" came from, it is from Charlottesville where they sold the slaves down the James river to southern plantations, where the life expectancy were less than 5 years because of the hard toil in the southern plantations. Indiana doesn't have that history.

Um, places that are "white, white, white" are often that way as a remnant of racism and segregation. White flight is at least part of the reason you have all white areas in the midwest despite the Great Migration. There is racism in every part of the US, liberal and conservative, urban and rural. But it looks different in different places. My brown friend who grew up in Indiana and now lives on the coasts would never go back. I'm a brown midwesterner (not IN, but nearby), and I would move back...but I have no delusions that it's racism free. In a way, it's easier when racism is more overt, which it absolutely is in the MW.

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Anonymous wrote:My very liberal dc loves IU. We had some reservation about it, and being in ‘gods country’ and the home of Our current VP. But not anymore. Ironically, most of dc friends are from the dmv or Chicago. So no real interaction with the right.

You must be so proud of your “very liberal dc.” So enlightened.

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IU is a terrific school and has a terrific music school. I did my undergrad in performance at Michigan, my master's at Indiana, and doctorate at Illinois. Not sure what area of music your child is pursuing. IU also has a good studio program as well for folks interested in music producing. What is nice at both UM and IU is that there are many, many ensemble in which to play. It is competitive, and the IU music school is larger than the others, but there are many performance opportunities. For me, it came down to the applied teacher. I went each place primarily based on the teacher I would work with one-on-one. Important to get to the schools and seek a lesson (obviously post-Covid).

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Anonymous wrote:When I went there the school runs a bit white christian. I am Jewish and many of the kids there never met anyone who was Jewish (many were from small towns in Indiana). This was many years ago though. Because of all the kids coming in from the East coast, I'm sure the Jewish population has grown a bit and hopefully cultural advances have been made since I was last there. I lived in one of the smaller hippy dorms (Collins) and there was a good mix of POC, artists, free spirits, etc. But most of the school is not like that.

That's so weird because IU is in the top 60 schools by Jewish population. It's number 57 when calculating by percent Jewish (12%) and is number 9 when counting by number (4,000 students).

I have never set foot in Indiana, and we added that school to our list specifically because of the large Jewish population (and we've heard good things about it).

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Anonymous wrote:When I went there the school runs a bit white christian. I am Jewish and many of the kids there never met anyone who was Jewish (many were from small towns in Indiana). This was many years ago though. Because of all the kids coming in from the East coast, I'm sure the Jewish population has grown a bit and hopefully cultural advances have been made since I was last there. I lived in one of the smaller hippy dorms (Collins) and there was a good mix of POC, artists, free spirits, etc. But most of the school is not like that.

That's so weird because IU is in the top 60 schools by Jewish population. It's number 57 when calculating by percent Jewish (12%) and is number 9 when counting by number (4,000 students).

I have never set foot in Indiana, and we added that school to our list specifically because of the large Jewish population (and we've heard good things about it).

I went there in the late 90s for my MPA (top program, FYI, frequently ranks higher than the Kennedy school) and my good friend from the program who is Jewish still lives there and from FB appears to have a strong Jewish community there. It’s a college town, so it’s not going to reflect that it’s a part of the state that gave us Mike Pence.

And we saw LOTS of black lawn jockeys in front yards on the drive from the Illinois border to Bloomington when I was moving there. Enough that it still sticks out 20 years later.

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OP

Here's some advice, you can take it our leave it. Find out your regional admissions officer's name & contact info. Reach out and ask for a current student willing to speak about their experiences at IU. Give that information to your student.

Don't listen to the anecdata, much of it from years ago, on this board.

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Anonymous wrote:When I went there the school runs a bit white christian. I am Jewish and many of the kids there never met anyone who was Jewish (many were from small towns in Indiana). This was many years ago though. Because of all the kids coming in from the East coast, I'm sure the Jewish population has grown a bit and hopefully cultural advances have been made since I was last there. I lived in one of the smaller hippy dorms (Collins) and there was a good mix of POC, artists, free spirits, etc. But most of the school is not like that.

It still is this way. My kid went to a very diverse high school and IU is white, white, white. The business school tends to have more diversity than the other colleges.

There is nothing wrong with white, white, white, so long as there are no remnants of those who allowed slavery, racism, or segregation, which you will find very little in Indiana as another PP alluded to, and you will find some traits of those in all Southern towns, such as Charlottesville. Let's not forget where the phrase "sold down the river" came from, it is from Charlottesville where they sold the slaves down the James river to southern plantations, where the life expectancy were less than 5 years because of the hard toil in the southern plantations. Indiana doesn't have that history.

Um, places that are "white, white, white" are often that way as a remnant of racism and segregation. White flight is at least part of the reason you have all white areas in the midwest despite the Great Migration. There is racism in every part of the US, liberal and conservative, urban and rural. But it looks different in different places. My brown friend who grew up in Indiana and now lives on the coasts would never go back. I'm a brown midwesterner (not IN, but nearby), and I would move back...but I have no delusions that it's racism free. In a way, it's easier when racism is more overt, which it absolutely is in the MW.

I in no way want to discount our racist history as unimportant. But if you put that aside, many students from the DC area (including my white kids) simply don’t want to be in a “white white white” environment so diversity matters regardless of historical links to slavery.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. I went to IU in 1986 and I'm Jewish. I grew up in NW Indiana and yes, there are Jews there. My parents met at IU in 1956 and my uncle graduated from IU med school. IU has a Hillel, holds High Holiday services on campus and has 3 Jewish frats and 2 Jewish sororities. I lived in McNutt my freshman year and half my dorm floor was Jewish. My dad had a scholarship offer to play baseball for a small school in Michigan but my grandparents wouldn't let him go there because there weren't any Jews there. They sent him to IU. My dad was a SAM and kept in touch with all of his fraternity brothers through the years. My mom was an SDT.

More recently, I two friends of mine sent their kids to IU. They are all Jewish and all loved it.

Like others have said the Music and Business Schools are top notch. Bloomington is a great college town. Bottom line, IU is a great school with plenty of Jewish life. There is plenty of diversity of all kinds at IU.

This thread made me smile. I went to IU and am Jewish. Made many Jewish friends. Graduated in 1984. Live in the DMV now. I participated in junior year abroad in Jerusalem while at IU. Nothing but good memories for me. Loved IU.

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Do most grads end up in Indiana after graduation?