Why are parents so fixated on reopening schools in-person?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids are depressed. They are learning very little, one has regressed so much academically he's now several grade levels behind.

There was a British study about what teachers saw when schools reopened. Huge academic regression, children forgetting their numbers and letters, forgetting how to read. Huge social and emotional regression, mental health problems and lack of physical conditioning.

OP, your fears about the pandemic are less important than our future generations. Look outside of yourself.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-pandemic-kid-regression/

Dumb and inaccurate. Kids are going to respond according to how their parents handle this. Many parents just cannot- it's not the kids. Teach resiliency during a crisis not panic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pretty much every school that "opened up" to in-person had to shut down again. Why? Because the majority of the U.S. Population doesn't understand the difference between High School math (bell curves) and the science of Coronavirus propagation. Folks, there is no "curve".

As long as you have one infected person, and a large number of uninfected people; that one person will infect the others. The cycle just restarts over and over again. This is what happened in Europe and in the U.S. Go research it yourselves. Play the game called "Plague" and maybe the math and science will make more sense. It's a math thing. The virus doesn't care about public opinions or politics. The science of transmission doesn't change from testing or wishful thinking.

The only way to totally stop this cycle is either to fully immunize the population (fewer deaths) or achieve "herd immunity" by infecting the entire population (which is bad news for anyone over 60 or with health conditions - sorry but you're written off as collateral damage).

This doesn't even include the human factor that teachers will become the new "front line" of Covid. You're asking them, without medical training, to become a "super-spreader defensive line"? If even one kid sniffles or coughs, what then? How many parents and their families will you infect? What if they live with family or have close contact with people with medical conditions or elderly? What if the child has a medical condition himself/herself? Are they all expendable?

I can understand if a kids home is already infected (e.g. parents that didn't understand the impact early in the pandemic), or if the kid is developing mental health issues from the isolation - but some parents were just complaining they didn't have daycare. For those parents, I do empathize that you do need some sort of help or solution - and maybe the school can assist in some way; but to force your will on other parents and other families is going too far. Find a solution for your own children, but not by creating issues for others.

To all those parents pushing to re-open, work with the schools to find a solution to your issues, but leave the rest who want to save lives alone.

This is a pathetic attempt to argue the science. Like your dumb ass is arguing that the R0 is completely stable, when we know we can do things to affect that. And that's just in the first sentence of your argument. Basically all of this is wrong. Are you a teacher?

[Anonymous]

If you want to talk about corona science, I want schools to open because of this school based science from the WHO:

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/risk-comms-updates/update39-covid-and-schools.pdf?sfvrsn=320db233_2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids are depressed. They are learning very little, one has regressed so much academically he's now several grade levels behind.

There was a British study about what teachers saw when schools reopened. Huge academic regression, children forgetting their numbers and letters, forgetting how to read. Huge social and emotional regression, mental health problems and lack of physical conditioning.

OP, your fears about the pandemic are less important than our future generations. Look outside of yourself.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-pandemic-kid-regression/

Dumb and inaccurate. Kids are going to respond according to how their parents handle this. Many parents just cannot- it's not the kids. Teach resiliency during a crisis not panic.

Maybe tell that to the teachers who are constantly panicking.

[Anonymous]

Because it's easier to tilt at windmills than it is to deal with the very scary reality that we are living during a pandemic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:because my ES kids are basically treading water as far as learning new material. That means we either turn family time into supplement time or just accept it. Meanwhile their friends in catholic school are back full time and moving at a normal pace. It infuriates me that an adequate education is now wholly dependent on the ability to pay

Well, this is the reality of many involved parents who consider themselves an equal partner with the school system and sit and go over the day's lesson with their children and supplement. Education also needs to happen at home. Else, you will be raising brain-dead losers like Trump, Rudy and Proud Boys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because it's easier to tilt at windmills than it is to deal with the very scary reality that we are living during a pandemic.

Wow this is so well-stated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:because my ES kids are basically treading water as far as learning new material. That means we either turn family time into supplement time or just accept it. Meanwhile their friends in catholic school are back full time and moving at a normal pace. It infuriates me that an adequate education is now wholly dependent on the ability to pay

Well, this is the reality of many involved parents who consider themselves an equal partner with the school system and sit and go over the day's lesson with their children and supplement. Education also needs to happen at home. Else, you will be raising brain-dead losers like Trump, Rudy and Proud Boys.

We heavily supplemented in ES before covid. ES curriculum is very slow and they don't teach many things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:because my ES kids are basically treading water as far as learning new material. That means we either turn family time into supplement time or just accept it. Meanwhile their friends in catholic school are back full time and moving at a normal pace. It infuriates me that an adequate education is now wholly dependent on the ability to pay

Well, this is the reality of many involved parents who consider themselves an equal partner with the school system and sit and go over the day's lesson with their children and supplement. Education also needs to happen at home. Else, you will be raising brain-dead losers like Trump, Rudy and Proud Boys.

I don't think the problem with Trump, Rudy, and other white supremacists is that their parents failed to adequately supplement their educations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because it's easier to tilt at windmills than it is to deal with the very scary reality that we are living during a pandemic.

It’s easier to focus on absolute corona risk only rather than do a real learn term analysis on what kids are missing out on in school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm fixated because private school and Catholic school kids have been in school ALL YEAR in DC and elsewhere. There's no reason, other than politics, for public schools to be closed and private schools to be opened.

I'm also fixated because I can cite you name after name of public health experts, doctors, educators, who all say we need to reopen schools and prioritize schools. Yet contrary to the grandiose claims to "believe science," parents and politicians in DC are now completely ignoring all of this science.

And finally I'm fixated on the incredibly hypocrisy of progressives in DC pretending to care about black kids and marginalized people, all the while refusing to engage with the actual facts in front of their eyes: rich white kids in DC are being educated; poor black kids are not.

What about poor white kids? What about rich black kids, or spanish kids, rich and poor? Etc.

My kids are "poor white" and doing well with DL. Statements like yours, PP, are pure evil. You are using disadvantaged kids to try to win your argument and get your way. Nasty person, PP.

[Anonymous]

Why are people so fixated on posting this thread over and over again?

[Anonymous]

The mentality is everyone fend for themselves. It’s not productive. This isn’t how communities work.

Sure, rich people can hire help. Or switch to private schools.

Poor people can utilize learning hubs.

Those in the middle are sort of trapped. I can’t work without my kids in school. I don’t make enough money to pay for 3 kids to be in private. My career and my childrens’ educations are on hold until schools reopen. We’re doing the best we can given the circumstances but we will all be much happier once schools open.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:because my ES kids are basically treading water as far as learning new material. That means we either turn family time into supplement time or just accept it. Meanwhile their friends in catholic school are back full time and moving at a normal pace. It infuriates me that an adequate education is now wholly dependent on the ability to pay

Well, this is the reality of many involved parents who consider themselves an equal partner with the school system and sit and go over the day's lesson with their children and supplement. Education also needs to happen at home. Else, you will be raising brain-dead losers like Trump, Rudy and Proud Boys.

And what if you can’t educate your own children? What if you’re under-educated yourself? Now see why it’s so important to open schools? Because many parents *can’t* educate their children. Stop acting like you don’t know this. You’re likely a well-read individual who full-on knows that children living in poverty ONLY have what they get in school. And that’s all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm fixated because private school and Catholic school kids have been in school ALL YEAR in DC and elsewhere. There's no reason, other than politics, for public schools to be closed and private schools to be opened.

I'm also fixated because I can cite you name after name of public health experts, doctors, educators, who all say we need to reopen schools and prioritize schools. Yet contrary to the grandiose claims to "believe science," parents and politicians in DC are now completely ignoring all of this science.

And finally I'm fixated on the incredibly hypocrisy of progressives in DC pretending to care about black kids and marginalized people, all the while refusing to engage with the actual facts in front of their eyes: rich white kids in DC are being educated; poor black kids are not.

What about poor white kids? What about rich black kids, or spanish kids, rich and poor? Etc.

My kids are "poor white" and doing well with DL. Statements like yours, PP, are pure evil. You are using disadvantaged kids to try to win your argument and get your way. Nasty person, PP.

Nice try. The facts will show that in DC, black and latino kids will disproportionately lose more educational ground than white kids. That's just the truth. And as much as I'm used to the argument that "it's racist to discuss racism," it always irritates me to no end.