No, read the post again. I, as a parent, have adapted. I saw DL was not working and found a teaching method that actually works. The teacher and school HAVE NOT ADAPTED. They are still offering the same ineffective DL as they were in March. None of the kids in my child's class are learning via DL. At best, the kids are compliant and willing to sit and watch the lessons. They barely participate and there is no evidence of knowledge retention. That's the best case scenario. At worst, they are inattentive, tantruming, actively disruptive, or not present. That describes more than half of the kids in the class. And their totally understandable struggles with the format make it very hard for even the quiet, compliant children to get anything out of the lessons. It is not working. There is no adaptation. And second, there is no child care that will provide what I am describing, beyond hiring a tutor to come in 20 hours a week and provide what we are currently providing ourselves. We would need someone capable of working with K and 1st grade students and probably with a background in teaching. In other words, we would need a... TEACHER. You aren't suggesting we hire childcare, you are suggesting we hire our own personal teacher. A person with those credentials would (and should) charge something like $50-80 hr. There is no way we could pay that. We could pay a babysitter, which is just childcare (not education), but then we'd still be providing our child's education since a regular $20/hr baby-sitter does not have the skill set to teach a 5 and 6 year old. So no. Teachers have not adapted. I don't really even blame the teachers -- I know that they are actually pretty limited in how much they can innovate because the central office has dictated the technology they use, the amount of live teaching they do, even the schedule of the classes. But then the schools need to innovate, or give teachers freedom to do so. Anything else is a failure. And no, it's not a childcare problem. There definitely IS a childcare crisis, but I'm not talking about that here. This is an education problem. This is the public schools abdicating responsibility for educating children. And in my case, these are kids at a critical stage with regards to literacy and it's actually scary what is happening. I think we are doing okay, but I know many of the other kids are not. I really worry what will happen when kids finally show up back in the classroom and 50-70% of the class have severely regressed on their reading skills. It's going to be a massive crisis. We could address it now, but instead we're just yelling at parents and telling them to suck it up. It's amazing how little interest anyone in a position of power has in the insight of the people who are actually with the kids and who can see what is actually happening. |
You can't work with idiots.. |
Teachers are teaching, and unlike a lot of remote workers they are actually doing their job remotely versus just farting around on message boards |
You know what is incredibly ineffective? Telemedicine. Medicine is the most hands on career you could choose. I hear very little outrage by the refusal of medical professionals to show up to work and do the jobs THEY chose, in an environment that is literally designed for disease control. It continues even now, when people insist “everyone else” is back to work. Many doctors are not seeing patients in person, or you have to first schedule (and pay for) a telemedicine appointment so they can evaluate if you “need” to be seen. It’s a scam. People with chronic medical conditions have had severely reduced access to their medical teams since March, and much suffering and death can be attributed to this. It’s really shameful that a profession basking in so many accolades is populated by so many money hungry cowards. |
huh? There was a period of time where it was hard to be seen in person, but all doctors offices I know of are in person now. Dentist, OBGYN, dermatologist, radiologist for mammogram, physical therapists. Even my psychologist is moving towards in-patient sessions with patients who want it. One Medical is open for in-person visits and has been for months. |
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I'm a parent and a teacher at a private school. School needs to be in-person. I'm fine with hybrid, because I think you do need less classroom density. However, staring at a screen all day isn't a normal or healthy way to learn.
The data supports keeping schools open with mitigation measures and the ability to shift to remote learning if cases rise in a school community. Just a post to take a brief break from accusing teachers of not caring or bashing parents for not wanting to educate their kids alongside their full time jobs. |
Quite a few of my doctors are still doing telehealth visits. Our dermatologists (mine and DS), my therapist, etc. They are not all open. My GYN just told me she is closing after Thanksgiving. |
+1 |
You are delusional, so there isn't any point in continuing the discussion. |
What the heck is wrong with you? I teach older kids (HS) and don't blow any noses. You definitely don't know how I feel about anything. I'm still waiting for the school to call me up and tell me my classroom is ready and my students will be there.... but oh wait. They're not going to do that because they can't get their darn act together. So no, I won't be quitting. I'll be continuing to hold online classes until I get that call. Yell at someone who actually has control over the situation. |
Agree. My kids are going to in-person private school and how they are set up to function safely is not possible in most public school districts. 1) The extra staff hired just for cleaning and resources purchased to disinfect 2) We had to sign a contact that we are social distancing outside of school and we must notify school if any member of household leaves the state and may be subjected to a quarantine at the school's discretion 3) Masks MUST be worn, if not, child goes home 4) ALL illness needs a dr note to return to school 5) If you are called to pick your child up and you MUST be there within 30 min, if not, child is not allowed back at school 6)Kids are met at car by a teacher, get their temp taken before being allowed out of car AND parents have to take temp and fill out a form and submit it before arriving at school Private schools have the authority to make their own rules and enforce them. Parents are more responsible at private schools because they are paying $$$ for their children to go and their children will not be able to attend if they don't follow the rules. Public schools can't do this. Kids get sick at public schools and sit in the office all day long because parents don't come get them. Kids are set to school from home sick all the time at public school and they can't do anything about it. |
Oh how nice that you think there is no other possibility than your kids continuing to learn in person because you can pay, and the rest of us getting subpar DL. Look, just like the curriculum in private schools isn’t per se better just because you can pay for it, there’s zero evidence that public schools can’t manage covid risks as well as privates. NYC publics did not show higher rates than privates, as far as I am aware. |
Why should we quit? I'm perfectly happy with the way things are going right now. |
Exactly. Your family found a solution and it works for you. Other families, including teachers and their families, are trying to find the solution for them. DL is a Band-Aid. The county is not going to put in a lot of money into correcting it if we're just going to return to school in the next year. It is what it is. |
+1, so true. so many parents are still trying to put that square peg in the round hole. |