Say something nice about a local club

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RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Metro United is an awesome organization. My daughter loves the coaching style and her new friends

Have you noticed Metro's game record is at the bottom of every age group in the GA? Even the NPL GFR teams struggle. Great org. So much for the coaching style.

Results matter less than a lot of things.

It's Metro United. Not Manchester United.

The people I know who are involved with Metro United are terrific. I do wonder how such a geographically awkward partnership will work out in the long run. I can't imagine a lot of people traveling from D.C. or Potomac to Great Falls at rush hour, and I wonder if Herndon or Vienna would be better partners. (Disclaimer: I live in Vienna, coached in rec league, ref there, etc.)

If results don't matter, then what does?

1. Development. Would you rather win at U-17 or U-12? Would you rather be a U-10 stud or play in college?

2. Fun. It's a game. I bet half of the miserable U-10 girls I saw in some "high-level" WAGS games quit before high school.

3. Coaches who aren't psychopaths. I've seen some coaches I would *never* let my kids play for. I don't care if they win every game between now and U-13. *Never*.

That's all very well and I agree. But - in my experience

1. Development leads to wins. Not immediately I agree - and good coaches who stick to development as a goal will indeed lose some games that they might perhaps have won if they didn't stick to their plan. But the development should lead to visibly improved performance within weeks, and improved results within months. At any age. I would argue that teams which consistently lose for years are not benefitting from development. They're just losing.

2. Teams which lose consistently are not fun for the kids. Sure it's not necessary to win all your games to have fun. But it is necessary to not always finish last.

3. I agree entirely. But - in my experience - psychopath coaches usually don't win - their behavior is self-defeating.

I'm not familiar with metro united. But if their game record is truly "at the bottom of every age group in the GA?" and the NPL GFR teams are indeed struggling, then I would seriously question whether any development or fun is actually happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Clyde Watson-McLean. Jamil Faryadi-McLean. Coach Q-Pipeline. German Peri-Arlington. There are four nice things. Jamil and German learned from J.C. the GOAT. Still the best coach this area has seen.

The GOAT, Jac Cicala?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clyde Watson-McLean. Jamil Faryadi-McLean. Coach Q-Pipeline. German Peri-Arlington. There are four nice things. Jamil and German learned from J.C. the GOAT. Still the best coach this area has seen.

The GOAT, Jac Cicala?

Who

[Anonymous]

I see a lot of great things happening at many clubs. Covid has been tough on everyone, clubs are doing the best they can to keep kids safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clyde Watson-McLean. Jamil Faryadi-McLean. Coach Q-Pipeline. German Peri-Arlington. There are four nice things. Jamil and German learned from J.C. the GOAT. Still the best coach this area has seen.

The GOAT, Jac Cicala?

Who

Bless your soul.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clyde Watson-McLean. Jamil Faryadi-McLean. Coach Q-Pipeline. German Peri-Arlington. There are four nice things. Jamil and German learned from J.C. the GOAT. Still the best coach this area has seen.

The GOAT, Jac Cicala?

Yes sir/ma’am.

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Metro United is an awesome organization. My daughter loves the coaching style and her new friends

Have you noticed Metro's game record is at the bottom of every age group in the GA? Even the NPL GFR teams struggle. Great org. So much for the coaching style.

Results matter less than a lot of things.

It's Metro United. Not Manchester United.

The people I know who are involved with Metro United are terrific. I do wonder how such a geographically awkward partnership will work out in the long run. I can't imagine a lot of people traveling from D.C. or Potomac to Great Falls at rush hour, and I wonder if Herndon or Vienna would be better partners. (Disclaimer: I live in Vienna, coached in rec league, ref there, etc.)

If results don't matter, then what does?

1. Development. Would you rather win at U-17 or U-12? Would you rather be a U-10 stud or play in college?

2. Fun. It's a game. I bet half of the miserable U-10 girls I saw in some "high-level" WAGS games quit before high school.

3. Coaches who aren't psychopaths. I've seen some coaches I would *never* let my kids play for. I don't care if they win every game between now and U-13. *Never*.

That's all very well and I agree. But - in my experience

1. Development leads to wins. Not immediately I agree - and good coaches who stick to development as a goal will indeed lose some games that they might perhaps have won if they didn't stick to their plan. But the development should lead to visibly improved performance within weeks, and improved results within months. At any age. I would argue that teams which consistently lose for years are not benefitting from development. They're just losing.

2. Teams which lose consistently are not fun for the kids. Sure it's not necessary to win all your games to have fun. But it is necessary to not always finish last.

3. I agree entirely. But - in my experience - psychopath coaches usually don't win - their behavior is self-defeating.

I'm not familiar with metro united. But if their game record is truly "at the bottom of every age group in the GA?" and the NPL GFR teams are indeed struggling, then I would seriously question whether any development or fun is actually happening.

True, and I've seen some teams that are just beating their head against a wall. All things in moderation.

Though to take it back to the original point -- is the "coaching style" the problem, or are they struggling to attract players in an area with some solid ECNL clubs?

I just checked their results -- they're not at the bottom of every age group. Two of them, yes. No team is in the top half, but neither are they all in last place.

And the OP was completely wrong about the teams in VPL (ECNL regional). The U-12s are unbeaten. The U-15s have beaten everyone except Vienna. The U-14s have beaten everyone except VSA.

It's ironic that people on a message board, like the OP, think we don't have Internet access.

http://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/2081/individual-club/1288/9

So it's not "Stanford and UNC beating down the door." But it doesn't seem like a miserable place to be, either.

Metro United has good coaching. They don’t do as well due to the amount of competing ECNL and GA girls clubs. I’d like to see their coaching staff take over Loudoun’s ECNL teams and also combine those kids. They’d then give McLean and Bethesda good competition in this area’s girls ECNL. Location is amenable to this too as GF/Reston is close to eastern Loudoun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see a lot of great things happening at many clubs. Covid has been tough on everyone, clubs are doing the best they can to keep kids safe.

I just saw players and spectators coming to games with no masks from parking lot walking in tight groups like teenagers do. Is that clubs enforcing policies and doing their best?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Metro United is an awesome organization. My daughter loves the coaching style and her new friends

Have you noticed Metro's game record is at the bottom of every age group in the GA? Even the NPL GFR teams struggle. Great org. So much for the coaching style.

Results matter less than a lot of things.

It's Metro United. Not Manchester United.

The people I know who are involved with Metro United are terrific. I do wonder how such a geographically awkward partnership will work out in the long run. I can't imagine a lot of people traveling from D.C. or Potomac to Great Falls at rush hour, and I wonder if Herndon or Vienna would be better partners. (Disclaimer: I live in Vienna, coached in rec league, ref there, etc.)

If results don't matter, then what does?

1. Development. Would you rather win at U-17 or U-12? Would you rather be a U-10 stud or play in college?

2. Fun. It's a game. I bet half of the miserable U-10 girls I saw in some "high-level" WAGS games quit before high school.

3. Coaches who aren't psychopaths. I've seen some coaches I would *never* let my kids play for. I don't care if they win every game between now and U-13. *Never*.

That's all very well and I agree. But - in my experience

1. Development leads to wins. Not immediately I agree - and good coaches who stick to development as a goal will indeed lose some games that they might perhaps have won if they didn't stick to their plan. But the development should lead to visibly improved performance within weeks, and improved results within months. At any age. I would argue that teams which consistently lose for years are not benefitting from development. They're just losing.

2. Teams which lose consistently are not fun for the kids. Sure it's not necessary to win all your games to have fun. But it is necessary to not always finish last.

3. I agree entirely. But - in my experience - psychopath coaches usually don't win - their behavior is self-defeating.

I'm not familiar with metro united. But if their game record is truly "at the bottom of every age group in the GA?" and the NPL GFR teams are indeed struggling, then I would seriously question whether any development or fun is actually happening.

True, and I've seen some teams that are just beating their head against a wall. All things in moderation.

Though to take it back to the original point -- is the "coaching style" the problem, or are they struggling to attract players in an area with some solid ECNL clubs?

I just checked their results -- they're not at the bottom of every age group. Two of them, yes. No team is in the top half, but neither are they all in last place.

And the OP was completely wrong about the teams in VPL (ECNL regional). The U-12s are unbeaten. The U-15s have beaten everyone except Vienna. The U-14s have beaten everyone except VSA.

It's ironic that people on a message board, like the OP, think we don't have Internet access.

http://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/2081/individual-club/1288/9

So it's not "Stanford and UNC beating down the door." But it doesn't seem like a miserable place to be, either.

Metro United has good coaching. They don’t do as well due to the amount of competing ECNL and GA girls clubs. I’d like to see their coaching staff take over Loudoun’s ECNL teams and also combine those kids. They’d then give McLean and Bethesda good competition in this area’s girls ECNL. Location is amenable to this too as GF/Reston is close to eastern Loudoun.

pass to the left

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see a lot of great things happening at many clubs. Covid has been tough on everyone, clubs are doing the best they can to keep kids safe.

I just saw players and spectators coming to games with no masks from parking lot walking in tight groups like teenagers do. Is that clubs enforcing policies and doing their best?

Our Kids have to help with the process. Them grouping up in the car park is hard for coaches to police

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Metro United is an awesome organization. My daughter loves the coaching style and her new friends

Have you noticed Metro's game record is at the bottom of every age group in the GA? Even the NPL GFR teams struggle. Great org. So much for the coaching style.

Results matter less than a lot of things.

It's Metro United. Not Manchester United.

The people I know who are involved with Metro United are terrific. I do wonder how such a geographically awkward partnership will work out in the long run. I can't imagine a lot of people traveling from D.C. or Potomac to Great Falls at rush hour, and I wonder if Herndon or Vienna would be better partners. (Disclaimer: I live in Vienna, coached in rec league, ref there, etc.)

If results don't matter, then what does?

1. Development. Would you rather win at U-17 or U-12? Would you rather be a U-10 stud or play in college?

2. Fun. It's a game. I bet half of the miserable U-10 girls I saw in some "high-level" WAGS games quit before high school.

3. Coaches who aren't psychopaths. I've seen some coaches I would *never* let my kids play for. I don't care if they win every game between now and U-13. *Never*.

That's all very well and I agree. But - in my experience

1. Development leads to wins. Not immediately I agree - and good coaches who stick to development as a goal will indeed lose some games that they might perhaps have won if they didn't stick to their plan. But the development should lead to visibly improved performance within weeks, and improved results within months. At any age. I would argue that teams which consistently lose for years are not benefitting from development. They're just losing.

2. Teams which lose consistently are not fun for the kids. Sure it's not necessary to win all your games to have fun. But it is necessary to not always finish last.

3. I agree entirely. But - in my experience - psychopath coaches usually don't win - their behavior is self-defeating.

I'm not familiar with metro united. But if their game record is truly "at the bottom of every age group in the GA?" and the NPL GFR teams are indeed struggling, then I would seriously question whether any development or fun is actually happening.

True, and I've seen some teams that are just beating their head against a wall. All things in moderation.

Though to take it back to the original point -- is the "coaching style" the problem, or are they struggling to attract players in an area with some solid ECNL clubs?

I just checked their results -- they're not at the bottom of every age group. Two of them, yes. No team is in the top half, but neither are they all in last place.

And the OP was completely wrong about the teams in VPL (ECNL regional). The U-12s are unbeaten. The U-15s have beaten everyone except Vienna. The U-14s have beaten everyone except VSA.

It's ironic that people on a message board, like the OP, think we don't have Internet access.

http://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/2081/individual-club/1288/9

So it's not "Stanford and UNC beating down the door." But it doesn't seem like a miserable place to be, either.

Metro United has good coaching. They don’t do as well due to the amount of competing ECNL and GA girls clubs. I’d like to see their coaching staff take over Loudoun’s ECNL teams and also combine those kids. They’d then give McLean and Bethesda good competition in this area’s girls ECNL. Location is amenable to this too as GF/Reston is close to eastern Loudoun.

Hilarious. MU has the worst coaching in the area, as many current and former parents know. The rot starts at the TD and works it’s way down.