“Vigil” for TJ This Weekend

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ parents are in their own little bubble...oblivious to everything else going on in the world and living through their kids.

They don't care about diversity, human rights, or anything that would take their focus away from their view of meritocracy and "the American Dream".

The world is falling apart around them and all they care is whether or not they get to put a TJ sticker on their car. What a shame!

No, they care about being discriminated against and despised because of their drive and hard work. There is no disputing that these ambitious, hard-working children are an important part of the future of this country and should be celebrated and supported for their effort and not crapped on by people like you.

It's clear there are two different perspective at play here. I favor the one that doesn't treat UMC Asian and white kids who overwhelmingly come from a few middle school feeders, while everyone else is largely shut out, as the victims not getting a fair chance.

I'm also glad we have a Superintendent and a School Board who realize this and are working to do something about it, no matter how strident the TJ parents have become in their defense of the status quo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TJ parents are in their own little bubble...oblivious to everything else going on in the world and living through their kids.

They don't care about diversity, human rights, or anything that would take their focus away from their view of meritocracy and "the American Dream".

The world is falling apart around them and all they care is whether or not they get to put a TJ sticker on their car. What a shame!

It's a shame people like you define diversity, human rights, or anything worthwhile on the basis of skin color only. You are the racists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vigil and most of the views of the group are ignorant, embarrassing and flat out wrong. What TJ has become is so far from the original intent and character of the school back in the 90s. I would not want my children to attend now, although I loved my experience there. Diversity was an issue then and it has become a crisis that needs immediate, bold action. Otherwise it pains me to say that I believe TJ should be shut down because it is not serving its students nor the community.

-TJ alum

Oh great, another white person telling us how bad it is that a school is majority Asian American.

I’m Indian American and felt I and the entire community would have benefited from a more diverse and inclusive student body when I was there, back when the school was not majority Asian. More diverse teachers would have helped too. It was not as cliquish back then. Kids just showed up as teachable students, teachers and students had flexibility and it was a genuinely interesting place. I may sound like a crotchety old person but I don’t get any of that energy when I go to events now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ parents are in their own little bubble...oblivious to everything else going on in the world and living through their kids.

They don't care about diversity, human rights, or anything that would take their focus away from their view of meritocracy and "the American Dream".

The world is falling apart around them and all they care is whether or not they get to put a TJ sticker on their car. What a shame!

No, they care about being discriminated against and despised because of their drive and hard work. There is no disputing that these ambitious, hard-working children are an important part of the future of this country and should be celebrated and supported for their effort and not crapped on by people like you.

That is such a tone deaf response. Having the resources and time to prep for a test and devote your entire childhood to studying (without any outside obligations or challenges) doesn't make a person ambitious and hard-working and it's definitely not worthy of our celebration. Get a clue...there are many hard working ambitious students that don't get the opportunity to focus entirely on academics. Some kids come from challenging environments, have to get after-school jobs, and (gasp) want to have fun and live a well-rounded life. If given the opportunity to be in an environment like TJ, they would succeed. However, once they get there they often face social challenges that are far worse than where they grew up. That culture is prevalent at TJ and I've heard it from many minority students since the 90s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is just the most cringey thing yet.

https://www.change.org/p/fairfax-county-school-board-vote-no-on-new-fairfax-county-admissions-changes-to-tj/u/27898793?recruiter=895071266&recruited_by_id=c6018450-a42a-11e8-a168-9bf7c1d295f1

“Show Our Grief! Show Our Pain!
Show Our Love! Show Our Pride”

Not to mention “bring your medals, trophies and posters.” Please, no. That sheit needs to stay at home.

It all sounds like some sad rally that Kim Jong-un would force the unfortunate denizens of the DPR to attend.

Hope they also bring copies of an upcoming admission test to share.

HA! This is a good one!

[Anonymous]

I’m starting to wish they would shut TJ down. All the elites trying to protect their kids from the real world. Just get rid of it and have everyone go back to their neighborhood HS. Crazy parents scheming to get their kids in TJ as young as the 2nd grade. Classic over the top DMV behavior

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m starting to wish they would shut TJ down. All the elites trying to protect their kids from the real world. Just get rid of it and have everyone go back to their neighborhood HS. Crazy parents scheming to get their kids in TJ as young as the 2nd grade. Classic over the top DMV behavior

+1000.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vigil and most of the views of the group are ignorant, embarrassing and flat out wrong. What TJ has become is so far from the original intent and character of the school back in the 90s. I would not want my children to attend now, although I loved my experience there. Diversity was an issue then and it has become a crisis that needs immediate, bold action. Otherwise it pains me to say that I believe TJ should be shut down because it is not serving its students nor the community.

-TJ alum

Oh great, another white person telling us how bad it is that a school is majority Asian American.

I’m Indian American and felt I and the entire community would have benefited from a more diverse and inclusive student body when I was there, back when the school was not majority Asian. More diverse teachers would have helped too. It was not as cliquish back then. Kids just showed up as teachable students, teachers and students had flexibility and it was a genuinely interesting place. I may sound like a crotchety old person but I don’t get any of that energy when I go to events now.

You are just as prone to discrimination based on stereotypes as other humans. Instead of asking others to suppress their human behavior, maybe reflect on your own faults first. If you can't overcome these urges, why call on others to do what you can't?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m starting to wish they would shut TJ down. All the elites trying to protect their kids from the real world. Just get rid of it and have everyone go back to their neighborhood HS. Crazy parents scheming to get their kids in TJ as young as the 2nd grade. Classic over the top DMV behavior

People have the right to free associate, you fascist. If not TJ they would just go to private schools like Basis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ parents are in their own little bubble...oblivious to everything else going on in the world and living through their kids.

They don't care about diversity, human rights, or anything that would take their focus away from their view of meritocracy and "the American Dream".

The world is falling apart around them and all they care is whether or not they get to put a TJ sticker on their car. What a shame!

No, they care about being discriminated against and despised because of their drive and hard work. There is no disputing that these ambitious, hard-working children are an important part of the future of this country and should be celebrated and supported for their effort and not crapped on by people like you.

That is such a tone deaf response. Having the resources and time to prep for a test and devote your entire childhood to studying (without any outside obligations or challenges) doesn't make a person ambitious and hard-working and it's definitely not worthy of our celebration. Get a clue...there are many hard working ambitious students that don't get the opportunity to focus entirely on academics. Some kids come from challenging environments, have to get after-school jobs, and (gasp) want to have fun and live a well-rounded life. If given the opportunity to be in an environment like TJ, they would succeed. However, once they get there they often face social challenges that are far worse than where they grew up. That culture is prevalent at TJ and I've heard it from many minority students since the 90s.

Time and resources is exactly what helps someone to improve at something. No one is dictating how you should spend your time and resources so why do you want to deride others on how they choose to spend theirs? If others want a chance in TJ, they can put their time and resources towards TJ admissions just like everyone else. If you want a well rounded life, go for it, no one is forcing you to choose otherwise. But don't complain when you can't get into TJ. People who play poker in their spare time don't complain about not being picked for a chess team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ parents are in their own little bubble...oblivious to everything else going on in the world and living through their kids.

They don't care about diversity, human rights, or anything that would take their focus away from their view of meritocracy and "the American Dream".

The world is falling apart around them and all they care is whether or not they get to put a TJ sticker on their car. What a shame!

No, they care about being discriminated against and despised because of their drive and hard work. There is no disputing that these ambitious, hard-working children are an important part of the future of this country and should be celebrated and supported for their effort and not crapped on by people like you.

That is such a tone deaf response. Having the resources and time to prep for a test and devote your entire childhood to studying (without any outside obligations or challenges) doesn't make a person ambitious and hard-working and it's definitely not worthy of our celebration. Get a clue...there are many hard working ambitious students that don't get the opportunity to focus entirely on academics. Some kids come from challenging environments, have to get after-school jobs, and (gasp) want to have fun and live a well-rounded life. If given the opportunity to be in an environment like TJ, they would succeed. However, once they get there they often face social challenges that are far worse than where they grew up. That culture is prevalent at TJ and I've heard it from many minority students since the 90s.

Time and resources is exactly what helps someone to improve at something. No one is dictating how you should spend your time and resources so why do you want to deride others on how they choose to spend theirs? If others want a chance in TJ, they can put their time and resources towards TJ admissions just like everyone else. If you want a well rounded life, go for it, no one is forcing you to choose otherwise. But don't complain when you can't get into TJ. People who play poker in their spare time don't complain about not being picked for a chess team.

Typical response. The point is that not everyone has the resources to devote to paying fees for test prep since Kindergarten or the time to do it. Some people don't have the opportunity to be singularly focused on that. There are challenges in life that some face that makes this impossible. If you can't see that, then I feel sorry for you and the people you come into contact with.

As far as having a well rounded life, yes, that is important. If all you want to do is be an individual contributor for the rest of your career, then go for it. Personally, I would look for someone with a broader life experience when looking to promote someone into a leadership position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ parents are in their own little bubble...oblivious to everything else going on in the world and living through their kids.

They don't care about diversity, human rights, or anything that would take their focus away from their view of meritocracy and "the American Dream".

The world is falling apart around them and all they care is whether or not they get to put a TJ sticker on their car. What a shame!

No, they care about being discriminated against and despised because of their drive and hard work. There is no disputing that these ambitious, hard-working children are an important part of the future of this country and should be celebrated and supported for their effort and not crapped on by people like you.

That is such a tone deaf response. Having the resources and time to prep for a test and devote your entire childhood to studying (without any outside obligations or challenges) doesn't make a person ambitious and hard-working and it's definitely not worthy of our celebration. Get a clue...there are many hard working ambitious students that don't get the opportunity to focus entirely on academics. Some kids come from challenging environments, have to get after-school jobs, and (gasp) want to have fun and live a well-rounded life. If given the opportunity to be in an environment like TJ, they would succeed. However, once they get there they often face social challenges that are far worse than where they grew up. That culture is prevalent at TJ and I've heard it from many minority students since the 90s.

Time and resources is exactly what helps someone to improve at something. No one is dictating how you should spend your time and resources so why do you want to deride others on how they choose to spend theirs? If others want a chance in TJ, they can put their time and resources towards TJ admissions just like everyone else. If you want a well rounded life, go for it, no one is forcing you to choose otherwise. But don't complain when you can't get into TJ. People who play poker in their spare time don't complain about not being picked for a chess team.

Typical response. The point is that not everyone has the resources to devote to paying fees for test prep since Kindergarten or the time to do it. Some people don't have the opportunity to be singularly focused on that. There are challenges in life that some face that makes this impossible. If you can't see that, then I feel sorry for you and the people you come into contact with.

As far as having a well rounded life, yes, that is important. If all you want to do is be an individual contributor for the rest of your career, then go for it. Personally, I would look for someone with a broader life experience when looking to promote someone into a leadership position.

We live in a society that don't hold back people just because others can't keep up. We can try to provide help for those that need it, but it is immoral to hold back the progress of people that do not need our help. You should be ashamed for feeling this way. It is evil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vigil and most of the views of the group are ignorant, embarrassing and flat out wrong. What TJ has become is so far from the original intent and character of the school back in the 90s. I would not want my children to attend now, although I loved my experience there. Diversity was an issue then and it has become a crisis that needs immediate, bold action. Otherwise it pains me to say that I believe TJ should be shut down because it is not serving its students nor the community.

-TJ alum

Oh great, another white person telling us how bad it is that a school is majority Asian American.

I’m Indian American and felt I and the entire community would have benefited from a more diverse and inclusive student body when I was there, back when the school was not majority Asian. More diverse teachers would have helped too. It was not as cliquish back then. Kids just showed up as teachable students, teachers and students had flexibility and it was a genuinely interesting place. I may sound like a crotchety old person but I don’t get any of that energy when I go to events now.

You are just as prone to discrimination based on stereotypes as other humans. Instead of asking others to suppress their human behavior, maybe reflect on your own faults first. If you can't overcome these urges, why call on others to do what you can't?

I apologize and recognize that I am on a continuing journey to be a better human, in my every day life including quick comments on DCUM. I hope that you can consider the rest of what I said. In the meantime, I will continue to advocate for substantial changes I believe will make TJ a better place, and if meaningful change does not occur in the near term, I will add my name to the growing list of TJ alumni in favor of shutting down the program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vigil and most of the views of the group are ignorant, embarrassing and flat out wrong. What TJ has become is so far from the original intent and character of the school back in the 90s. I would not want my children to attend now, although I loved my experience there. Diversity was an issue then and it has become a crisis that needs immediate, bold action. Otherwise it pains me to say that I believe TJ should be shut down because it is not serving its students nor the community.

-TJ alum

Oh great, another white person telling us how bad it is that a school is majority Asian American.

I’m Indian American and felt I and the entire community would have benefited from a more diverse and inclusive student body when I was there, back when the school was not majority Asian. More diverse teachers would have helped too. It was not as cliquish back then. Kids just showed up as teachable students, teachers and students had flexibility and it was a genuinely interesting place. I may sound like a crotchety old person but I don’t get any of that energy when I go to events now.

You are just as prone to discrimination based on stereotypes as other humans. Instead of asking others to suppress their human behavior, maybe reflect on your own faults first. If you can't overcome these urges, why call on others to do what you can't?

I apologize and recognize that I am on a continuing journey to be a better human, in my every day life including quick comments on DCUM. I hope that you can consider the rest of what I said. In the meantime, I will continue to advocate for substantial changes I believe will make TJ a better place, and if meaningful change does not occur in the near term, I will add my name to the growing list of TJ alumni in favor of shutting down the program.

The question was rhetorical. Stereotyping is as fundamental to life as food and water. You cannot avoid it from a personal perspective. To pretend that you can is ignorant. To expect others to avoid it is evil. The least you can do is not be evil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ parents are in their own little bubble...oblivious to everything else going on in the world and living through their kids.

They don't care about diversity, human rights, or anything that would take their focus away from their view of meritocracy and "the American Dream".

The world is falling apart around them and all they care is whether or not they get to put a TJ sticker on their car. What a shame!

No, they care about being discriminated against and despised because of their drive and hard work. There is no disputing that these ambitious, hard-working children are an important part of the future of this country and should be celebrated and supported for their effort and not crapped on by people like you.

That is such a tone deaf response. Having the resources and time to prep for a test and devote your entire childhood to studying (without any outside obligations or challenges) doesn't make a person ambitious and hard-working and it's definitely not worthy of our celebration. Get a clue...there are many hard working ambitious students that don't get the opportunity to focus entirely on academics. Some kids come from challenging environments, have to get after-school jobs, and (gasp) want to have fun and live a well-rounded life. If given the opportunity to be in an environment like TJ, they would succeed. However, once they get there they often face social challenges that are far worse than where they grew up. That culture is prevalent at TJ and I've heard it from many minority students since the 90s.

Time and resources is exactly what helps someone to improve at something. No one is dictating how you should spend your time and resources so why do you want to deride others on how they choose to spend theirs? If others want a chance in TJ, they can put their time and resources towards TJ admissions just like everyone else. If you want a well rounded life, go for it, no one is forcing you to choose otherwise. But don't complain when you can't get into TJ. People who play poker in their spare time don't complain about not being picked for a chess team.

Typical response. The point is that not everyone has the resources to devote to paying fees for test prep since Kindergarten or the time to do it. Some people don't have the opportunity to be singularly focused on that. There are challenges in life that some face that makes this impossible. If you can't see that, then I feel sorry for you and the people you come into contact with.

As far as having a well rounded life, yes, that is important. If all you want to do is be an individual contributor for the rest of your career, then go for it. Personally, I would look for someone with a broader life experience when looking to promote someone into a leadership position.

I assume you have the same outlook on sports. The playing field must be leveled so people who pay for camps don't get a leg up.