Choosing between Emory and UMich for engineering

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan is one of the best engineering programs in the country - just a notch below the MITs and the Stanfords of the world.

Emory is ranked higher on US NEws

USNews is such useless garbage - people have been so hypnotized by their arbitrary ranking methodology that they're coming up with irrational decision trees like the one being floated by OP. NO ONE specifically in pursuing a specific field of engineering would ever consider Emory for engineering over a top ten engineering school.

Let's not Emory is undoubtedly the better school, doesn't mean UMich won't have better programs or engineering. For everything else Emory is likely better.

What does "better" actually mean? Per USNWR, Emory is 21st overall and 25th in undergraduate teaching; Michigan is 24th overall and 16th in undergraduate teaching.

Better as in, if you had the choice between the two you should go with Emory. Emory is better for ALL humanities, biology, chemistry, and business at the undergraduate level. It is the better school. UMich is overrated while Emory is underrated.

Source? US News has Ross as the #3 UG business school in the country. I don't have the paid subscription so I can't see past the top 10, but Emory is not in it. US News doesn't rank undergrad humanities/biology/chemistry, but for graduate school, almost every single one of UMich's grad programs in the humanities are within the top ten, Emory doesn't have a single one in the top 10 or even top 20. Emory is ranked 33 in biological sciences for grad school, 82 in comp sci, 32 in chemistry, 63 in economics, 55 in math, 71 in physics, etc. The only grad programs of theirs that fall into the top 10 are some of the professional programs (physical therapy, nursing, midwifery, and physician assistant). UMich is 23 for biological sciences, 15 for chemistry, 11 for comp sci, 10 for earth sciences, 12 in Econ, 12 in math, etc.

If there is a different source that you are using to state definitively that Emory is better for "ALL humanities, biology, chemistry, and business at the undergraduate level" I'd love to know what that is.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan is one of the best engineering programs in the country - just a notch below the MITs and the Stanfords of the world.

Emory is ranked higher on US NEws

USNews is such useless garbage - people have been so hypnotized by their arbitrary ranking methodology that they're coming up with irrational decision trees like the one being floated by OP. NO ONE specifically in pursuing a specific field of engineering would ever consider Emory for engineering over a top ten engineering school.

Let's not Emory is undoubtedly the better school, doesn't mean UMich won't have better programs or engineering. For everything else Emory is likely better.

What does "better" actually mean? Per USNWR, Emory is 21st overall and 25th in undergraduate teaching; Michigan is 24th overall and 16th in undergraduate teaching.

Better as in, if you had the choice between the two you should go with Emory. Emory is better for ALL humanities, biology, chemistry, and business at the undergraduate level. It is the better school. UMich is overrated while Emory is underrated.

LOL

You’re delusional. Have any actual basis for this ridiculous claim?

Who in there right mind would choose UMich over Emory for English, or sociology, or any other humanities degree. Be real. Then Emory is a premed factory so bio and chem are well taught and elite.

Again, what is your source for this? I don't know how to compare undergrad departments, but for grad school, UMich and Emory aren't even in the same stratosphere for humanities. The gap is a little smaller for bio and chem, but Michigan still comes out on top.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan is one of the best engineering programs in the country - just a notch below the MITs and the Stanfords of the world.

Emory is ranked higher on US NEws

USNews is such useless garbage - people have been so hypnotized by their arbitrary ranking methodology that they're coming up with irrational decision trees like the one being floated by OP. NO ONE specifically in pursuing a specific field of engineering would ever consider Emory for engineering over a top ten engineering school.

Let's not Emory is undoubtedly the better school, doesn't mean UMich won't have better programs or engineering. For everything else Emory is likely better.

What does "better" actually mean? Per USNWR, Emory is 21st overall and 25th in undergraduate teaching; Michigan is 24th overall and 16th in undergraduate teaching.

Better as in, if you had the choice between the two you should go with Emory. Emory is better for ALL humanities, biology, chemistry, and business at the undergraduate level. It is the better school. UMich is overrated while Emory is underrated.

Source? US News has Ross as the #3 UG business school in the country. I don't have the paid subscription so I can't see past the top 10, but Emory is not in it. US News doesn't rank undergrad humanities/biology/chemistry, but for graduate school, almost every single one of UMich's grad programs in the humanities are within the top ten, Emory doesn't have a single one in the top 10 or even top 20. Emory is ranked 33 in biological sciences for grad school, 82 in comp sci, 32 in chemistry, 63 in economics, 55 in math, 71 in physics, etc. The only grad programs of theirs that fall into the top 10 are some of the professional programs (physical therapy, nursing, midwifery, and physician assistant). UMich is 23 for biological sciences, 15 for chemistry, 11 for comp sci, 10 for earth sciences, 12 in Econ, 12 in math, etc.

If there is a different source that you are using to state definitively that Emory is better for "ALL humanities, biology, chemistry, and business at the undergraduate level" I'd love to know what that is.

Grad and undergraduate rankings aren't the same. Grad rankings are mainly based on amount of research produced thus with UMich being gigantic one could only hope. We're discussing teaching, undergraduate prestige and outcomes (salary, placement, etc) by major. I'm sorry your DC couldn't get into any schools better than UMich.

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Anonymous wrote:DD has these two schools on her list for engineering. She wants to study chemical engineering and is leaning toward Emory b/c it has the more prestigious engineering program, but she's worried she won't get in. Thoughts?

That's a clown question, bro.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan is one of the best engineering programs in the country - just a notch below the MITs and the Stanfords of the world.

Emory is ranked higher on US NEws

USNews is such useless garbage - people have been so hypnotized by their arbitrary ranking methodology that they're coming up with irrational decision trees like the one being floated by OP. NO ONE specifically in pursuing a specific field of engineering would ever consider Emory for engineering over a top ten engineering school.

Let's not Emory is undoubtedly the better school, doesn't mean UMich won't have better programs or engineering. For everything else Emory is likely better.

What does "better" actually mean? Per USNWR, Emory is 21st overall and 25th in undergraduate teaching; Michigan is 24th overall and 16th in undergraduate teaching.

Better as in, if you had the choice between the two you should go with Emory. Emory is better for ALL humanities, biology, chemistry, and business at the undergraduate level. It is the better school. UMich is overrated while Emory is underrated.

Source? US News has Ross as the #3 UG business school in the country. I don't have the paid subscription so I can't see past the top 10, but Emory is not in it. US News doesn't rank undergrad humanities/biology/chemistry, but for graduate school, almost every single one of UMich's grad programs in the humanities are within the top ten, Emory doesn't have a single one in the top 10 or even top 20. Emory is ranked 33 in biological sciences for grad school, 82 in comp sci, 32 in chemistry, 63 in economics, 55 in math, 71 in physics, etc. The only grad programs of theirs that fall into the top 10 are some of the professional programs (physical therapy, nursing, midwifery, and physician assistant). UMich is 23 for biological sciences, 15 for chemistry, 11 for comp sci, 10 for earth sciences, 12 in Econ, 12 in math, etc.

If there is a different source that you are using to state definitively that Emory is better for "ALL humanities, biology, chemistry, and business at the undergraduate level" I'd love to know what that is.

Grad and undergraduate rankings aren't the same. Grad rankings are mainly based on amount of research produced thus with UMich being gigantic one could only hope. We're discussing teaching, undergraduate prestige and outcomes (salary, placement, etc) by major. I'm sorry your DC couldn't get into any schools better than UMich.

Cite your sources, then, that say these things are better at Emory ug than UMich.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan is one of the best engineering programs in the country - just a notch below the MITs and the Stanfords of the world.

Emory is ranked higher on US NEws

USNews is such useless garbage - people have been so hypnotized by their arbitrary ranking methodology that they're coming up with irrational decision trees like the one being floated by OP. NO ONE specifically in pursuing a specific field of engineering would ever consider Emory for engineering over a top ten engineering school.

Let's not Emory is undoubtedly the better school, doesn't mean UMich won't have better programs or engineering. For everything else Emory is likely better.

What does "better" actually mean? Per USNWR, Emory is 21st overall and 25th in undergraduate teaching; Michigan is 24th overall and 16th in undergraduate teaching.

Better as in, if you had the choice between the two you should go with Emory. Emory is better for ALL humanities, biology, chemistry, and business at the undergraduate level. It is the better school. UMich is overrated while Emory is underrated.

LOL

You’re delusional. Have any actual basis for this ridiculous claim?

Who in there right mind would choose UMich over Emory for English, or sociology, or any other humanities degree. Be real. Then Emory is a premed factory so bio and chem are well taught and elite.

Again, what is your source for this? I don't know how to compare undergrad departments, but for grad school, UMich and Emory aren't even in the same stratosphere for humanities. The gap is a little smaller for bio and chem, but Michigan still comes out on top.

But grad and undergraduate aren't the same? From my understanding teaching at the undergraduate level isn't different from school to school but prestige and opportunities are, and most students at DS's school would choose Emory without hesitation.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan is one of the best engineering programs in the country - just a notch below the MITs and the Stanfords of the world.

Emory is ranked higher on US NEws

USNews is such useless garbage - people have been so hypnotized by their arbitrary ranking methodology that they're coming up with irrational decision trees like the one being floated by OP. NO ONE specifically in pursuing a specific field of engineering would ever consider Emory for engineering over a top ten engineering school.

Let's not Emory is undoubtedly the better school, doesn't mean UMich won't have better programs or engineering. For everything else Emory is likely better.

What does "better" actually mean? Per USNWR, Emory is 21st overall and 25th in undergraduate teaching; Michigan is 24th overall and 16th in undergraduate teaching.

Better as in, if you had the choice between the two you should go with Emory. Emory is better for ALL humanities, biology, chemistry, and business at the undergraduate level. It is the better school. UMich is overrated while Emory is underrated.

LOL

You’re delusional. Have any actual basis for this ridiculous claim?

Who in there right mind would choose UMich over Emory for English, or sociology, or any other humanities degree. Be real. Then Emory is a premed factory so bio and chem are well taught and elite.

Again, what is your source for this? I don't know how to compare undergrad departments, but for grad school, UMich and Emory aren't even in the same stratosphere for humanities. The gap is a little smaller for bio and chem, but Michigan still comes out on top.

But grad and undergraduate aren't the same? From my understanding teaching at the undergraduate level isn't different from school to school but prestige and opportunities are, and most students at DS's school would choose Emory without hesitation.

You’re on drugs if you think Emory is unquestionably more prestigious than Michigan for undergrad engineering or any other department.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan is one of the best engineering programs in the country - just a notch below the MITs and the Stanfords of the world.

Emory is ranked higher on US NEws

USNews is such useless garbage - people have been so hypnotized by their arbitrary ranking methodology that they're coming up with irrational decision trees like the one being floated by OP. NO ONE specifically in pursuing a specific field of engineering would ever consider Emory for engineering over a top ten engineering school.

Let's not Emory is undoubtedly the better school, doesn't mean UMich won't have better programs or engineering. For everything else Emory is likely better.

What does "better" actually mean? Per USNWR, Emory is 21st overall and 25th in undergraduate teaching; Michigan is 24th overall and 16th in undergraduate teaching.

Better as in, if you had the choice between the two you should go with Emory. Emory is better for ALL humanities, biology, chemistry, and business at the undergraduate level. It is the better school. UMich is overrated while Emory is underrated.

LOL

You’re delusional. Have any actual basis for this ridiculous claim?

Who in there right mind would choose UMich over Emory for English, or sociology, or any other humanities degree. Be real. Then Emory is a premed factory so bio and chem are well taught and elite.

Again, what is your source for this? I don't know how to compare undergrad departments, but for grad school, UMich and Emory aren't even in the same stratosphere for humanities. The gap is a little smaller for bio and chem, but Michigan still comes out on top.

But grad and undergraduate aren't the same? From my understanding teaching at the undergraduate level isn't different from school to school but prestige and opportunities are, and most students at DS's school would choose Emory without hesitation.

Why?

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan is one of the best engineering programs in the country - just a notch below the MITs and the Stanfords of the world.

Emory is ranked higher on US NEws

USNews is such useless garbage - people have been so hypnotized by their arbitrary ranking methodology that they're coming up with irrational decision trees like the one being floated by OP. NO ONE specifically in pursuing a specific field of engineering would ever consider Emory for engineering over a top ten engineering school.

Let's not Emory is undoubtedly the better school, doesn't mean UMich won't have better programs or engineering. For everything else Emory is likely better.

What does "better" actually mean? Per USNWR, Emory is 21st overall and 25th in undergraduate teaching; Michigan is 24th overall and 16th in undergraduate teaching.

But grad and undergraduate aren't the same? From my understanding teaching at the undergraduate level isn't different from school to school but prestige and opportunities are, and most students at DS's school would choose Emory without hesitation.

You’re on drugs if you think Emory is unquestionably more prestigious than Michigan for undergrad engineering or any other department.

Emory doesn't have thaylt, it's clear now that you're OP and started a thread to bash Emory for some odd reason. Emory has been ranked higher than UMich for 2 decades now. There's no question which school is more prestigious and desirable among top tier students and their families. It's time to let it go.

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Oh FFS. Michigan is ranked #24. Emory is #21. Suggesting that there's "no question" which one is more prestigious is so dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh FFS. Michigan is ranked #24. Emory is #21. Suggesting that there's "no question" which one is more prestigious is so dumb.

In department rankings, they are very different. Michigan outranks Emory in virtually every department.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh FFS. Michigan is ranked #24. Emory is #21. Suggesting that there's "no question" which one is more prestigious is so dumb.

In department rankings, they are very different. Michigan outranks Emory in virtually every department.

Michigan (16) outranks Emory (25) in undergraduate teaching, too. Awesome - Go Michigan!

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Anonymous wrote:Oh FFS. Michigan is ranked #24. Emory is #21. Suggesting that there's "no question" which one is more prestigious is so dumb.

In department rankings, they are very different. Michigan outranks Emory in virtually every department.

Michigan (16) outranks Emory (25) in undergraduate teaching, too. Awesome - Go Michigan!

yeah. Emory is really only propped up by its excellent medical school/health sciences. Otherwise...meh.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh FFS. Michigan is ranked #24. Emory is #21. Suggesting that there's "no question" which one is more prestigious is so dumb.

In department rankings, they are very different. Michigan outranks Emory in virtually every department.

Michigan (16) outranks Emory (25) in undergraduate teaching, too. Awesome - Go Michigan!

yeah. Emory is really only propped up by its excellent medical school/health sciences. Otherwise...meh.

If that makes you feel better. Emory rank has been higher than UMich for as long as my DS has been alive. The better school has been chosen. It would be different if they switched ranks every now and then, but 24 is UMich highest rank in 10 YEARS. While 21 is Emory's lowest. So UMich can't beat Emory at its worst.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh FFS. Michigan is ranked #24. Emory is #21. Suggesting that there's "no question" which one is more prestigious is so dumb.

In department rankings, they are very different. Michigan outranks Emory in virtually every department.

Michigan (16) outranks Emory (25) in undergraduate teaching, too. Awesome - Go Michigan!

yeah. Emory is really only propped up by its excellent medical school/health sciences. Otherwise...meh.

If that makes you feel better. Emory rank has been higher than UMich for as long as my DS has been alive. The better school has been chosen. It would be different if they switched ranks every now and then, but 24 is UMich highest rank in 10 YEARS. While 21 is Emory's lowest. So UMich can't beat Emory at its worst.

If it makes you feel better to think there is a significant difference between 3 or 5 or 8 ranks or whatever it's been...