Choosing between Emory and UMich for engineering

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Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that the BS program might better be termed something like "pre-engineering" since Emory itself doesn't award the BSE.

Emory is much more difficult to get into than GA Tech. They have the superior engineering program

Emory's more difficult to get into than UMich as well, the the Emory detractors conviently forget that.

Correct. The latest Emory acceptance rate is 12% while Michigan remains stagnant at 45%. Emory average SAT 1480, Michigan average SAT 1290. It's not even close.

This is the second thread today where someone has posted this false number.

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Isn't this Michagan's first year in the top 25? Were they not 27 or 28 last year?

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Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that the BS program might better be termed something like "pre-engineering" since Emory itself doesn't award the BSE.

Emory is much more difficult to get into than GA Tech. They have the superior engineering program

Emory's more difficult to get into than UMich as well, the the Emory detractors conviently forget that.

Correct. The latest Emory acceptance rate is 12% while Michigan remains stagnant at 45%. Emory average SAT 1480, Michigan average SAT 1290. It's not even close.

Michigan engineering acceptance rate is 19%; average SAT of 1440 and ACT of 34.

So true. To be fair though Emory's SAT average is higher than places like northwestern
So UMich's best can't beat Emory's avg?

The official merged data set from D of Ed I was using last year when my boys were looking shows Emory with an average of 1437 and Michigan with an average of 1436. Also, Michigan has more students >1500 than Emory has students.

Northwestern's was 1500, so above poster is an idiot.

As a comparison, Caltech has a higher SAT average than MIT, but the top 200 students/class at MIT are clearly higher that the top 200 at Caltech.

This is not true on Emory's website it says 760 for Math and 710 for Reading which equals 1470.
https://provost.emory.edu/planning-administration/data/factbook/admissions.html

I prefer to use the official data that schools report under oath vs. marketing bs. If you think it changed that much in one year, then you aren't very good at math/data.

You're just daft. Finding the average of the 25th and 75th percentile is not how you find the median, as the bell curve distribution for that particular set of data may not be perfect which is clearly what is happening with Emory's SAT numbers. The difference between the 25th and 50th percentile for Emory is much more than the difference between the 50th and 75th percentile.

And you apparently lack reading comprehension skills. The 1436/1437 numbers are, in fact, the SAT AVG reported by the schools to the US Dept of Ed. No manipulation was done on my part.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that the BS program might better be termed something like "pre-engineering" since Emory itself doesn't award the BSE.

Emory is much more difficult to get into than GA Tech. They have the superior engineering program

Emory's more difficult to get into than UMich as well, the the Emory detractors conviently forget that.

Correct. The latest Emory acceptance rate is 12% while Michigan remains stagnant at 45%. Emory average SAT 1480, Michigan average SAT 1290. It's not even close.

Michigan engineering acceptance rate is 19%; average SAT of 1440 and ACT of 34.

So true. To be fair though Emory's SAT average is higher than places like northwestern
So UMich's best can't beat Emory's avg?

The official merged data set from D of Ed I was using last year when my boys were looking shows Emory with an average of 1437 and Michigan with an average of 1436. Also, Michigan has more students >1500 than Emory has students.

Northwestern's was 1500, so above poster is an idiot.

As a comparison, Caltech has a higher SAT average than MIT, but the top 200 students/class at MIT are clearly higher that the top 200 at Caltech.

This is not true on Emory's website it says 760 for Math and 710 for Reading which equals 1470.
https://provost.emory.edu/planning-administration/data/factbook/admissions.html

I prefer to use the official data that schools report under oath vs. marketing bs. If you think it changed that much in one year, then you aren't very good at math/data.

You're just daft. Finding the average of the 25th and 75th percentile is not how you find the median, as the bell curve distribution for that particular set of data may not be perfect which is clearly what is happening with Emory's SAT numbers. The difference between the 25th and 50th percentile for Emory is much more than the difference between the 50th and 75th percentile.

And you apparently lack reading comprehension skills. The 1436/1437 numbers are, in fact, the SAT AVG reported by the schools to the US Dept of Ed. No manipulation was done on my part.

Those numbers are from 2018

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Also, the Common data set does list SATVRMID=705, SATMTMID=730 for Emory. So, unless Emory is intentionally under-reporting, your presumption of a skewed bell curve is false.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that the BS program might better be termed something like "pre-engineering" since Emory itself doesn't award the BSE.

Emory is much more difficult to get into than GA Tech. They have the superior engineering program

Emory's more difficult to get into than UMich as well, the the Emory detractors conviently forget that.

Correct. The latest Emory acceptance rate is 12% while Michigan remains stagnant at 45%. Emory average SAT 1480, Michigan average SAT 1290. It's not even close.

Michigan engineering acceptance rate is 19%; average SAT of 1440 and ACT of 34.

So true. To be fair though Emory's SAT average is higher than places like northwestern
So UMich's best can't beat Emory's avg?

The official merged data set from D of Ed I was using last year when my boys were looking shows Emory with an average of 1437 and Michigan with an average of 1436. Also, Michigan has more students >1500 than Emory has students.

Northwestern's was 1500, so above poster is an idiot.

As a comparison, Caltech has a higher SAT average than MIT, but the top 200 students/class at MIT are clearly higher that the top 200 at Caltech.

This is not true on Emory's website it says 760 for Math and 710 for Reading which equals 1470.
https://provost.emory.edu/planning-administration/data/factbook/admissions.html

I prefer to use the official data that schools report under oath vs. marketing bs. If you think it changed that much in one year, then you aren't very good at math/data.

You're just daft. Finding the average of the 25th and 75th percentile is not how you find the median, as the bell curve distribution for that particular set of data may not be perfect which is clearly what is happening with Emory's SAT numbers. The difference between the 25th and 50th percentile for Emory is much more than the difference between the 50th and 75th percentile.

And you apparently lack reading comprehension skills. The 1436/1437 numbers are, in fact, the SAT AVG reported by the schools to the US Dept of Ed. No manipulation was done on my part.

Those numbers are from 2018

Yes, they are. The latest available when I was doing this last year. 2019 is probably the most current now. Fell free to pull down the spreadsheet with thousands of schools and hundreds of columns per school and report how significantly things have changed.

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If you think a 10-20 point spread is a huge indicator of Emory superiority over Michigan, then you must also agree that Emory students are complete dolts compared to MIT(1532), Caltech(1558), and CMU-CS(1570).

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This whole thread is being egged on by a troll.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think a 10-20 point spread is a huge indicator of Emory superiority over Michigan, then you must also agree that Emory students are complete dolts compared to MIT(1532), Caltech(1558), and CMU-CS(1570).

For you and the other PP. I'm not posting the like to their website again. You asked for a source I gave it to you!

Emory is not lying for marketing purposes on the provost portion of the website that's hard to find. All of the numbers are true accurate and most recent. The feds are always 1-2 years behind when updating reports on schools
in 2017 Emory reported a 1430
2018- 1440
2019- 1470
So what you telling me the feds are saying seems to align with what Emory says on their website. The feds just don't have their 2019 numbers yet.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think a 10-20 point spread is a huge indicator of Emory superiority over Michigan, then you must also agree that Emory students are complete dolts compared to MIT(1532), Caltech(1558), and CMU-CS(1570).

Good point but what about the Emory engineering students?

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This whole thread is so dumb.

Go to Emory, their engineering program is superior.

Michigan is just another state school.

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Emory engineering is test optional so that is not a good metric

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Anonymous wrote:Emory engineering is test optional so that is not a good metric

Emory Engineering is Engineering optional too! Don't let that hold you back.

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Anonymous wrote:Emory engineering is test optional so that is not a good metric

Cute for 1 year. Is UMich not test optional this year too.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is being egged on by a troll.

More than one trolls.